I Bought The Superlight 2, Please Don't...

can u show me how to do this holy shit

i just ordered the superlight 2 online and im on the go pro wireless 2018 so im doing fine as well paid full price (170 euros) but i nearly paid the same for my current mouse (150 euros) back when i bought it so whatever

There's a few main noticable differences; the skates, the weight and the shape. The G403 is a lot closer to a Deathadder or a Zowie EC mouse than it is the GPX2, but it fits most grip types so I wouldn't be too worried about that. My biggest piece of advice I could give here is get it from a store with a great return policy, try it out for a few weeks and if it works, stick with it, if not then take advantage of the gracious return policy and return it :)

The shape, specs, weight, and price are all beaten by other mice. Superlight was high end when it came out but the market is moving and logitech hasnt caught up.

​​​@@crispiestcrouton1643Not really. The 4k and 8k polling rate is useless. The extra specs are bullshit and there is no noticeable difference between 2k and a 4k polling rate and in general the sensor is better on the logitech and that's why most pros use them.

@@crispiestcrouton1643its not, the shape is fine, and subjective for the most part. Build quality is very good, especially compared to most proto lightweight fingertip crushable mice. Wireless implementation especially 2k is vastly superior in latency, stability and battery life to pretty much everything else in that category. The usbc connector is entirely irrelevant unless you are a reviewer or switch setups a lot. Im not gonna say the mouse is perfect or perfectly priced but its most definitely not a bad product in the context of the market. I will never understand usbc crybabies. This shit is so incredibly irrelevant for a fucking mouse it drives me insane. Not to mention that 90% of usbc mice nowadays have a semi proprietary connection anyways cause they have some form of physical “bay” that the cable slots into that doesnt fit standard usbc cables. This review is a complete joke and was simply made from the perspective of a mad reviewer that is upset that the mouse isnt as groundbreaking as the original release. The average user cant go wrong buying this mouse. Another day, another mouse junkie with no qualifications being tilted at nothing.

you need to lube the mousewheel receiver, that fixed my issue, however my superlight left click actually is getting worn and is feeling extremely mushy. I guess I try some other brand out lol

cope

@@J-cy7jz wouldnt it be the other way around?

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I don't entirely recall if I mentioned it in the video or if I scrapped it in editing, but I think the side buttons here are ever so slightly more crisp and less pre-travel on the initial click. Now I wouldn't call the side buttons as good as Razer's side buttons, but definitely close.

the gpx side buttons are mushy

Honestly, go for the 1. The two has more of a price hike for not that many features.

ive been using the viper v2 pro for a while now and i really love it. Though i think the superlight is better if you have a claw grip on your mouse

The Superlight shape is generally speaking a bit lower than the G502, in terms of height, and obviously it's more shaped like a long egg, but can fit most if not all grip types, so depending on your hand size that could be a deal breaker. And personally, I would recommend the GPX2 if you don't mind the heavier clicks, but in return you don't get doubleclicking whatsoever, however if you don't ind tinkering around and possibly replacing the switches in your GPX, I think the GPX1 is a solid choice still, especially if you can get it at a lower price.

Just use eloshape to compare mice

@@bo0t3r29 i never know about this, thank you so much for your information

@@charlesg9614 you can also checkout rtings mice 3d shape compare tool... long name xD

I keep shilling razer in these comments, but from my experience, I think that Deathadder V3 Pro has the best Scrollwheel. Tensioned to what I would consider perfection, and it doesn't have suffer from "Unintentional Jumps" that happen in games like Apex where you bind spacebar to your scrollwheel up or scrollwheel down. It also has a stable MMB Click that doesn't cause any unintentional scrolling, unlike the Viper V2 Pro. That being said, I have only ever touched Razer, Corsair and Logitech products so I can only make recommendations from them, since I'd feel bad recommending things I haven't personally tried and vouched for! And well... I tend not to recommend Corsair mice because they have yet to catch up to the "lightweight" meta that everyone is trying to get the piece of, even if Razer and Logitech is dominating.

@@morten1811 thank you very much! Well deserved video like

iam using viper mini and i love it but i wanted to switch to the g pro superlight so not worth it?

@@Numbnut_ You will regret it. Besides my own experience, some weeks ago I saw my favourite Twitch streamer (for Rainbow Six Siege) throw away his Superlight. Do you need more evidence?

I would not recommend the DAv3 Pro to somebody with smaller hands, no. Even me with average sized hands struggle to proper grip it at times 😅 I'd say for me that the scroll wheel is a big deal for me since I use the scroll wheel a lot, since it's borderline required for Apex (whether or not that is a good thing is an entirely different discussion) GPX2 undoubtably fit smaller hand sizes, and I'm on the fence about recommending the Viper V2 Pro, due to its scroll wheel being a bit weird but in a different way than the GPX's. Potentially, you might benefit from a Razer Cobra Wired? Due to it being a Viper Mini successor

@@morten1811 went with the Viper V2 Pro👍

@@morten1811 went with the Viper V2 Pro👍

There is nothing wrong with it i have it and its the best mouse ive ever had

Great question! That depends on what you want. We always have to take into account that Logitech has the advantage in the sense that the shape of the GPX is simply so godtier. HOWEVER, we also have to take into account the legacy of the Deathadder lineup, because historically they have been contenders for being "Comfort King", alongside other mice like Zowie, simply because of how they fit firmly in your grip. I'd ask myself these things when picking between two options: - Do I naturally want to use an Ergo Shape or an Ambi Shape? When it comes to comparing these kinds of mice, the only actual concern besides small nit picks with the featureset it's important for you to remember that Shape is King. Hope this helps :)

Tanks!! I use 131 grip. Which mouse i the best for me?@@morten1811

How didn't they care?

@@Terra101 I said they don't have to, moreso a denotation that even if the scroll wheel sucks, they don't have to fix it because its' the only good shape that exists.

@@rhyvehr What do you mean the scroll wheel sucks? Scroll wheel is good. And the new encoder in the GPX 2 have less pronounced steps to make it quieter, like people have asked for. GPX is a pretty bad shape, I have tried about 60 different mice.

Thank you :) While I don't recall the exact name of the piece of wood I picked for it, I found whatever was a lighter and textured piece of wood at my local hardware store and cut it down to size. Something Oak, but I'm not too entirely sure off the top of my head.

yeah switching from wired to wireless feels amazing

i did and the shape is slightly different but you will be able to adjust easily. make sure to match the dpis as I didn't and had trouble aiming due to a slightly slower dpi. also, the stock feet on the g pro x superlight 2 are terrible -- get like corepad or something. my stock feet were so scratchy compared to the model o

To me, it sounds like your current scroll wheel is simply defective in some sort of way, assuming that no software is set up weird of course. If that is the case that that it is defective, I would honestly recommend RMA'ing it if possible, and if you don't mind heavier clicks then I think that the GPX2 is a good option, but if your hands are on the bigger side, the DAv3 Wired / DAv3 Pro from Razer is also an option, and as for the rest of the mice on the market, you'll have to consult them as I haven't currently purchased and hands-on tried anything outside of Razer or Logitech mice, honestly.

@@morten1811 Thank you for the update, I have RMA'd 4 times the superlight. It works fine for first 2-3 months and starts struggling after while. I'm now confused between Viper v2 pro grip and DA V3 pro

@@westend8561 DAv3 Pro is more of a Zowie shape, while Viper V2 is closer to a GPX shape, but just lower back hump, basically. Like a flatter GPX.

Same. Superlight 1. Logitech sent me a new one because of this annoying defect. I had a warranty.

Well... That depends really. At this point, any modern gaming mouse will be hardware-wise (Sensor, etc.) Just fine for any game and task. But outside of name brand mice, I haven't personally tried anything. I hear that the Ninjutso Sora is pretty good. Darmoshark 4K (I think it's called?) allegedly is also really good. And then obviously, something like a Viper V2 or Deathadder V3 if you want something a little more familiar (Deathadder shape) or if you believe in the principals of RocketJumpNinja that Smaller Mouse = Better Aim (Viper)

@@morten1811 Wow Thanks for the full reply!

I was a bit of an idiot and actually threw away the box rather shortly after purchasing the mouse, and I checked with the retailer I bought it from and I can sadly not return it, but you know it is what it is :)

great to know that the white editions generally have better resale value, thank you

Just like I said at the end of the video, yes. If you were already looking for a new one anyway, this is a seriously solid mouse to grab and will make a majority of people happy for years to come

should i pick up the superlight 1 if its on sale for 117$@@morten1811

no its not logitech most overhyped piece of junk

@@kmndra5831 Some people like the shape, 60gr is still a good weight, but GPX2 should've shaved 10 grams if they wanted to justify a new mouse

@@kmndra5831 my dude, it's in AUD most likely. That's around $115 USD. That's an alright price. Also, who hurt you?

No superlight is worth it in Australia dollars. So are Razer Vipers. Those are mouses you should not buy in Australia

@@ninx_music do you have no clue how currency works?

it does tho. its costs 80$ more, so it does matter

Keychron V3, stock. :)

I do not know, because I didn't know that mouse existed until you told me about it haha But based on the specsheets alone, unless you truly want the shape or believe in the brand, I'd suggest grabbing a more "known" lighter weight mouse like a Viper V2 Pro for instance.

I'd overall go with the Deathadder V3 Pro.

@@morten1811 would you recommend the Deathadder V3 Pro to someone who's Hands are a bit on the smaller side? I'm considering buying myself a GPX 2 because of the smaller form factor. Is the scroll wheel problem really that bad?

If you are itching for an upgrade from your G403, then yes.

@@morten1811 okay thanks

@@morten1811 I found the superlight 1 for 95$ and the superlight 2 for 200$. Superlight 2 is much more expensive so is the superlight 1 still good or i should wait for a discount or something on the superlight 2? Thanks!

I'm also coming from a g403. It's crazy how good the g403 is - the shape and comfort is unparalleled. Basically all I want is an updated 403 with no rubber and optical switches. I tried the superflight 2, deathadder v3, rival 3, and kone air pro. They are all ergonomically worse than the 403. the glides on the 403 are better than the above mice too. The 403 came with an optional weight that isn't included, which is sad to see that logitech doesn't do that with other mice. I like the heavier back it gives. luckily they are interchangeable with the superflight, so you can put the 403 weight in the superflight if you want. the clicks on the left/right buttons are the loudest I've ever heard on any mouse ever. I can hear the clicks even when listening to music with headphones on. the 403 clicks in comparison are inaudible. imo, buying a new 403 every year is a better option than buying the superflight 2, considering it's three times the price as the 403. I really hope Logitech just makes a new 403 some day.

i bought one for ps5

did you tried to change the mouse glides on the superlight? Because most stock glides are garbage tbh, even the viper v2 pro can feel 100 times better with for example corepads.

@@katzhas5984 i mean the move of the crosshair feels smoth not the mouse itself

To my knowledge, there is none, however surely somebody who is braver than me and aren't afraid of doing destructive mods would have figured out a way. My best bet is some kind of Mouse Modding forum, or some kind of subreddit of that nature. Best of luck in your research!

Thank you :) @@morten1811

you can just diy this with a stressball hack

im on the g pro wireless 2018 and after a year or two the middle mouse button didnt work anymore i used it to scroll down or up a page fast and now the side buttons to go back or forwards in a browser for example double clicks almost everytime so i decided to upgrade to the new superlight 2 and ordered it online bought some grip tape and will replace the stock feet with better aftermarket ones as i always do might try out glass ones now i have a smooth deskpad but i love it being super smooth so i reckon ill like glass mouse feet just havent seen pulsars super glides for the g pro superlight 2 yet

@@ChudDin man thats the longest sentence i've read

Logitech bin their switches so that similarly weighted switches are paired with each other, so that there's not 2 different click forces on mouse1/2. That means some copies will have lighter switches and some will have heavier ones, your copy was probably from the light bin. How they do it in the GPX 2 tho I'm not sure. Maybe better tolerances, but probably it's the same there. That's why some complain about the GPX 2 having much heavier clicks and some say they are lighter.

alright if that really happens to you, i would suggest go see a doctor because u might have some disorders. Its normal clicks like u click it, and the mouse registers it, it cannot "click on its own"

It also let's you set your dpi in increments of 10, so 410, 470 , 1360 , 720, and I find it tracks really well.

@@vermillionranger8558 for what use XD

You know what, fair point. While I do somewhat agree with what you're saying, I still HIGHLY doubt that the latency difference between 1k hz vs 2k hz polling rate is that marginally bigger as to be worth to include it or use it as a consumer when you are "bottlenecked" by the display anyway. Based on what I've looked up and seen across various forums, videoes and reddit posts is that the jump between those two polling rates are not that big. Obviously, not everybody's got the best testing methodology, and a lot of the testing methodology boils down to "I feel the difference" or "I don't feel the difference" which to me tells me that it's somewhere in between placebo and reality.

@@morten1811 I would agree its just a marketing thing and not sth important but not because of the hz of the display. One big problem seems tp be that some cpus are not able to supprt 4k or even 8k. And some games do stutter even with the best cpus. So for me 2k seems like the sweetspot with a lil bit of improvement but it is for sure not necessary and 1k will be just fine just a thing for us nerds to be happy about

@@Wolf-ls1wt Well there's multiple layers to this: Obviously, some CPUs simply cannot keep up with it, but another thing is that higher than 1khz polling rate also cripples battery life. Stuff like a DAv3 with the 4khz dongle barely lasts 3 days of heavy use, if not lower. Or as you mentioned, if the game can even handle it. And yeah absolutely, I think that as a tech enthusiast it should be embraced that we get more performance to squeeze out, or more to play with, but I think at its core it is marketing speak, and therefore I will advocate for it as such. Perhaps I was a little too harsh, or unclear in the explanation, and that's on me. Thank you for reminding me. The explanation as well as the "callout" is appreciated :)

Don't forget that the DPi does as well in terms of latency and running those high polling rates. I would expect anyone to have a 240hz+ monitor if you're going to pay for this much. Also, probably have the cpu/pc to handle this, but I do see some valid points in this video that the guy made. 8.3/10 video.

I have a Razer 8khz mouse with an i5 13600k and 4070, some of my settings needed to be tweaked so I won't experience frame stutters/drops when playing on 4k-8k, There is a noticeable difference in delay/latency when switching between 1k-8k. For example, editing in a game like Fortnite is one of the most noticeable things that are affected by this. The sensitivity when tracking is substantially smoother when comparing 1k to 4k and even 4k to 8k. 2k, not so much. I want to say clicks feel more responsive but I don't know if it is a placebo, however, when selecting edits in Fortnite, my click timing seems faster when trying to time an edit.@@morten1811

real

2 Reasons: 1: The european union has swing the hammer and requires USB-C in an effort to stop E-Waste 2: MicroUSB is genuinely one of the worst cable standards to have ever been created in terms of durability and stability.

this video was trash with a clickbait title

Death ader v3

the g pro 2 uses hybrid optical switches to prevent this

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is it really that bad? i want to get one but am torn

sounds like a skill issue boss

@@IAmACottager do not you will be so disappointed for the amount your spending

@@IAmACottager There was a 60 dollar difference in my country so I decided to go for the first one and I am glad I did. I did pick a hot swappable PCB and some Huano Brown Silents as I needed a silent mouse and it's dope af.

😂

Agreed.

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u ok bro?😩

Keychron V3, Gateron Reds, completely stock. :)