Celsius Made His Thermometer Upside Down
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Celsius never devised nor used the scale that now bears his name.
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Special thanks to Michael Stevens of Vsauce! / vsauce1
More info about Celsius and temperature scales: wke.lt/w/s/2I6Nu
References for this video:
A History of the Thermometer and its uses in Meteorology by W. E. Knowles Middleton
Absolute Zero and the Conquest of Cold by Tom Shachtman
The Science of Measurement, A Historical Survey by Herbert Arthur Klein
Lehrbuch der Chemie by Jöns Jakob Berzelius
Special Thanks to the Uppsala University Museum
I filmed this in Uppsala in the summer of 2012! So I've been thinking about this idea for a very long time. I'm glad to finally have it out there in the world.
Saying "no thats not right" to Michael from Vsauce seems like a death sentence but I think Derek is the only one that can manage that
Bill Nye, Neil Degrassi Tyson, Jimmy Neutron, Adam Savage, Mrs. Frizzle, Pickle Rick, and Michio Kaku could all get the same reaction I think. Hope you like what I did here. :D
Watch till the end when Michael pops his head up, says "but what IS temperature?" and destroys Derek's whole sense of reality
@@TheHearingDeaf2006 had me in the first half
Or is it?
@@TheHearingDeaf2006 🤔
So technically Celsius did invent the scale, someone just flipped it
yeah i was thinking the same
That suck because I was about to file a patent for an upside down pencil :( what a shame.
Lemon Chief That's jokes
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Alcatraz Aronsson me too
"There is no objectively good reason for preferring an ascending scale over a descending one" *Cries in thermodynamics*
Cries in music theory
Probably is a psychological things tha TV make a majority of humans prefer ascending scales.
@@swampdonkey1567 No there are certain equation in thermodinamics that only work with certain scales and do not work with inverted scales (from before TV was invented)
I cringed at that one also. While getting rid of negatives is mathematically convenient (and I could see how some might object to negative temperatures as being counterintuitive) I would argue that using HIGHER temperatures for HOTTER things does seem to make more sense. I don't think it's just a learned bias that tells me it's wrong to think that the temperature inside a freezer is higher than the temperature inside an oven.
@Civilized Unicorn untrue, as a true American, i only work with Fahrenheit, and a -3000% thermal efficiency on an otto cycle seems perfectly fine to me.
0:20 I love how happy Michael is to be taught something he never knew. He has a great curiosity to himself.
michael was not taught. he was only held captive and forced to act dumb
@@spooktoberboi proof
Next you'll tell me the stop sign _wasn't_ invented by William F. Stop.
What does the F stand for
@DahriusArt it's never that simple
@@kshitijbenedict8431 fuckboy
@@kshitijbenedict8431 fast
@@x_x5009 he is the CEO of respect
Vsauce AND veritasium uploaded? What is this sorcery?!
I know right! Its like geek christmas!
This is the most exciting day of my life.
the magic of SCIENCE!!!
Sadly Pay Phones now have very boring lives.
Now we will all have to wait a very long time to see them again :(
"In Sweden it does not often go above the boiling point of water" Gee, really?
I guess they didn't have fire back then.
@@Milesco No DuMbA** fIrE wAs CrEaTeD a LoNg TiMe AgO
@@Milesco thats right fire was invented in ancient greece in 1255 and first brought to sweden in 1817 after napoleons defeat.
Except when you’re making tea.
Not True any moar hahahahhahahahahhahahhahahaha
"no Michael, I'm not" might be the best line ever delivered on KZhead
It's a strange feeling when I see that Michael doesn't know everything. o_o Same feeling when I heard the pope saying "I don't know".
Title: "he didn't invent it" Second half of video: "he did, tho"
But he didn't. It was the collection of scientists that did
*he did too
***** No. I said "tho" as in "though". It's an ironic abbreviation, and intentional.
I know, I corrected it to "too" as in he wasnt the only one that invented it :p
Title: "He didn't invent it" Second half of the video: "He kinda did but some jackass got it wrong"
I thought Michael knew everything. You ruined it :(
i just hope that now he doesn't turn into a super evil criminal. or a rapper.
If he raps about science, then I'm cool with that.
+Arturo Torres Sánchez nice hypothesis.
He does
He knows everything; he even knows that he isn't omniscient
An inverse scale would make some calculations awkward I imagine. Having higher energy states directly proportional to the temperature makes sense, having to inverse that and offset it constantly seems kinda annoying tbh.
Which is why we changed it :D
Not if you can account for the fact that water can boil and freeze simultaneously. If you set the boiling point at 0 than that is your starting point. Boiling is only an action and is no indicator of temperature. If anything the thermometer is more efficient as a barometer than anything else
@@CorgiCorner yup, water can boil with zero heat. Water in a vaccum as an example.
Back then thermal energy was considered a wierd and unlikely hypothesis. CRYO energy was the big thing every scientist was working to prove was real.
@@scout360pyroz cold isn't energy though, rather a lack of energy
0:44 vsauce music intensifies.
so did Fahrenheit create Fahrenheit
Probably yes
Many, myself included, wish he hadn't...
+Robert Faber Why?
Juustomimmi Because then the US might be using the same unit for temperature as the civilised world.
reasons why I don't like Fahrenheit. I can never remember the boiling point of water in Fahrenheit. But I know it in Celsius. Why's freezing at 32F? the hell is 0 suppose to be? If it was to prevent negative numbers, it failed cause we get to -18F at the coldest where I live in.
Great, next thing you'll tell me that Degrassi High isn't named for Neil Degrassi Tyson
It's Okay To Be Smart Hi!
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@Joseph Heron woosh
@Joseph Heron woooosh
3:01 Who would have guessed, we thank Carolus Linnaeus not only for taxonomy but also for the modern Celcius scale.
"wont it be weird if water freezes at 100 degrees and boils at 0 degrees." and then Christopher Nolan gets the idea for Tenet
Many people still use the term centigrade.
I was gonna say that. I hear it all the time and my brain just doesn't process it different.
to be fair, most people these days just reffer to it as "C", plain and simple. "5 degree C" for example.
In places that use it most will just say degrees.
And your frame of reference is? It's clearly not actual studies, but "anecdotal evidence", meaning, what you hear. Which means we'd have to know *where* you hear this all the time.
It's reasonably common to hear people say centigrade in the UK. I'm sure no one will bother to do a study on it as that would be a complete waste of time.
Ahhh yes. It is 50 degrees community of scientists.... Perfect.
Except 50 degrees community of scientists is not pleasant
@@yooovi4u except necroreplying to a 3 year old comment is not pleasant
@@Evercreeper It is. Also anything above 26 is not pleasant.
@@Evercreeper Wait its 3 years old???
@@sharoncastillo2411 look at the original comment “3 years ago”
"there is no objectively good reason for prefering an ascending scale over a descending one for measuring degrees of something, like hot or cold" hot = more energy = higher number cold = less energy = lower numbers sounds pretty reasonable to me
as well as hot=more volume=takes up more space in a mercury bulb thermometer. you would think that just pure convince would have been enough back then?
@@billyrussell7789 yes but that's not universally true. water is more dense than ice while certainly having more energy and a higher temperature
Nnay so far water is the only material we know that does that though, and for the temperature measuring systems used then it would have meant higher energy =less density
Also beacause we don't want nor need another counterintuitive convention like *shudders* charge convention
but it could have just been similar to gauges of metal wire where the larger the gauge, the smaller the wire. it's just something that is set and as long as it's consistent and can convey information effectively then it'd be ok.
There absolutely is a good reason for having ascending numbers for increasing temperature - most calculations involving temperature require ABSOLUTE temperature. It's bad enough trying to convert from absolute scale to relative scale now when it just involves adding a constant. Imagine if you also had to negate the scale.
The claim was that there's no _objective_ reason. "Convenience" is not an objective reason. That is purely _subjective preference_ on our part (and is highly dependent on _what you are actually doing_ with the numbers (there are many everyday applications which do _not_ require absolute temperature at all, and even theoretically some applications where an inverted scale might actually make calculations easier instead)).
@@foogod4237 that's funny - you pointed out that he said objective reasons, then brought up several subjective reasons to support your statement. When making serious engineering and scientific calculations in thermodynamics and fluid dynamics, there are long established formulae that depend on an ascending scale, and rearranging them for a descending scale would be ridiculously obtuse - they would make little sense without a great deal of puzzling study. Look at the first and second laws of thermodynamics sometime, and tell me they were laid out subjectively on an ascending temperature scale.
0-100 was an inside job
Steel fuel can't melt jet memes
100 degrees cant melt steel beams
"You can tell how bad a person you are by how long after 9/11 you waited to masturbate. For me, it was between the first and second tower falling down." - Anders Celsius
+TeeCakes but chemtrails can.
+Doctapeppur mine... I was born 9 months exactly after 9/11 lol
So robust that we take it for granted... everywhere on the planet except the US.
And Burma and Liberia
+Ian Robertson the three superpowers of the world hahaha
Haha, I rest my case!
Too bad it's not a natural temperature scale like Planck temperature. I mean, what kind of absurd scale is defined by a number as arbitrary as 273.16? It's just there because we're too stubborn to let go of our historical affinity for "1/100 the temperature difference between water freezing and boiling". Celcius is outdated, let's move on.
You mean Fahrenheit.
Which always brings me to the question ⁉️ " Are we the only living species determined to measure everything? " Growing up I hated school. Education was full of hypocrisies. When questioning why, I was reprimanded for not excepting what is just is. Later during my indoctrination I learned that in order to measure something you needed to start from a fixed point. I also learned there is no fixed point in the Universe. Everything is moving. Therefore my empirical theory is, modern day huminoids are foundationally fixated within the boundaries of an abstract world. And that trap has provided our species with infinite survival skills. Perhaps our solar system is the birth place of consciousness for the entire Universe. Our innate curiosity is the vehicle for escaping earthly boundaries. I love your show! Keep up the good work! Good teachers are a rare quality sir! ( Found you thru Destin's "Smarter Every Day" )
well thought.
*Technically* kelvin added accuracy not precision, precision is a measure of how many digits you are accurate to
It depends on the context: they have the above-mentioned meaning when they're being used together, otherwise they're synonyms. Precisely! :D
Here in Brazil some people still say "centigrade" talking about temperatures. Even weather forecast in some media channels say centigrade instead of celsius.
giovanifm1984 We do here in the UK too.
Same in Spain.
A whole bunch used Degrees Centigrade and Celsius interchangeably,
Same in Portugal.
Even here in India.
At a comfortable 21°Carl right now.
ºChristin*
*Community*
🌡Celcius
+DeltaGamer * °CommunityOfScientists
Oh, just call it Centigrade for Christin's sake!
Love all your work man! what a throwback, this video was just recommended to me and thought why not watch this again. all your work holds up. keep doing you.
I remember reading an old book that stated the Celsius and Centigrade scale were the same but went in different directions. After mentioning it to someone, they argued that I didn't know what I was talking about. Sadly, a search of the internet didn't show this at the time and I no longer had access to that book. People really take a lot for granted. They have no idea how many measurement scales have been created and lost to time. Thanks for the video!
Guys it's 17 degrees Carl
We all know there's only six degrees of Kevin.
Its 40 degrees Bob here
60000000 lukas
Carl would be his first name, we would call it Linneus
It's 43 degrees Joe
But did miles per hour invent miles per hour
nah KM/h did
Cheeky Kalium molemasses per hour
Myles Perrour
no that was actually Marx Avogadro, sorry.
No, Miles Prower (aka Tails) did.
We very much appreciate and enjoy your efforts to make Veritasium the best it can be, congratulations on your current and future success! Also, you and Michael collaborating is the best thing on KZhead ☺️
I love these science history videos, learning about the history of science is every bit as interesting to me as the science itself.
You finally posted it! NOICE!
Well, your collab you've just posted with It's Okay To Be Smart is pretty NOICE, too, if I may say so.
strange it's 23 hrs here in India
haaa its you
What the hell is NOICE?
+Keith Grove It's an alternate/exaggerated version of saying "nice".
0:25 There goes Michael's persona XD
xddddd
every time darek asks a question, i am somehow scared that the other person won't be able to answer it. Then i imagine myself in his place and i feel anxiety!
RIP Vsauce 2010 - 2016
Remember, he is not used to °C, but °F
+Kjetil he should be by now considering he lives in the UK
You made it, you're one of the best KZhead channel there is ! And thank you for everything!
One of the best. Thank you, from a rarely used portion of my heart. Honest, well meaning, and nice to listen to.
Meanwhile in America - not a single SI-unit was given that day. Fahrenheit, miles, ounce, "110V electricity". Its a wonder they actually use "seconds" and "hours"
We don't need the retarded SI units and what country doesn't use seconds and hours?
they're not retarded :( they make sense and are based off things that are logical.
Fish Styx No they don't. Imperial and US units are based on things that can be easily visualized. Metric isn't.
easily visualized but never consistent. that is why imperial is based on SI now.
They only use seconds, minutes and hours because it isn't metric ;p (well seconds are usually used metrically when downscaled but you know what I mean).
Wait...did i just see michael not knowing something?!?!? That's impossible!!
OH MY GOSH, ITS A SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE!!!!!
STAGED MICHAEL KNOWS EVERYTHING BLARHGHGHAGHHG wow
obviously he is roleplaying. probably Michael taught that to him :P
Acting?
You do know there are lots of things Michael doesn't know, right? He is a curious person, and that is what makes the difference, he go out and finds out the answers to things he doesn't know. a lot of his video materials may be things he had no idea until he decided they are going to make a video about it.
2:13 except that we can add more energy to a system endlessly and can only remove a certain amount of energy before we run out, they call it absolute zero.
Your videos are so entertaining and well made! I've been watching your channel for a while now but first time commenting on one! Blessings!
6:13 He said “degree Kelvin”. 😱😱😱 Inconceivable!
It wasn't until somewhere in the 80s that scientists made a point of why degree was inappropriate for Kelvin. I've gotten into several reddit arguments with (alleged) grad students who've claimed their PhD toting professors used "degrees Kelvin" not more than a few years ago.
@@ignaciocabero6062 Uniformity. Using your logic everything is a degree, one degree meter, one degree kg, one degree ampere and so on. When people define the metric system they want the uniformity, so either all were called degree, or no one is called degree. There's also argument about absolute 0, as celcius' 0 is an arbitrary 0, where 0 kelvin ( also on meter, kg, second, mol, cd, ampere) is basically the lowest value it can get, aka absolute zero ( though physicist and mathematician already theorized about negative temperature and negative mass)
bruh he was correct idot
@@ignaciocabero6062 look it up. You’ll be convinced it makes sense. The key is if you set zero at an arbitrary value. Zero meters, gram , kelvin, are not arbitrary. They mean nil, nada. When measuring degrees, zero means “at this arbitrary line”.
@@alvarorodriguez1592 I fully get it, but isn't angle degrees an exception to this? 0 degrees is precisely 0, null, 0 radians etc... it is not arbitrary.
We should color code every tenth degree. Lol yeah it's blue degrees outside today. Next week looks like it's going to be in the mid-pinks.
That is honestly not a bad idea. I could see that work really intuitively.
I mean, is it hard to say "ninety-two"?
92, that's either really hot or really cold
Sucks to be colourblind and not know the temperature XD
Dakky Arthur lol xD
"Centigrade" is what I've always been taught and said.
how?
@@toanhien494 They don’t have schools where you’re from?
@@toanhien494 probably Murica
That video genuinely blew my mind :) When you realize you have been relying on a simple concept you sincerely believed you knew all about !
Very interesting video about the history of temperature scales
Yes
Yes
Cool. I knew about Celsius and Linaeus. Not about Daniel Ekström. A quick Googling tells me that I am likely not related to him.
I actually saw his name on a thermometer in Europe while I was in Germany. (the company name, not the temperature scale)
Spoiler warning: You are related to every human being, it's just a matter of degree in proximity. And if you share a last name that would probably bring you closer.
Magnus Ekström uh, you could be a very distant relative. and... we are all related so the fact that you share the same last name... makes you more likely to be more closely related.
Well, given how names propagate, (at least, in most cultures), if there IS a relation it's on the father's side. You can ignore all women in this, since they don't pass their names on to their children. For instance, I recently learnt that my grandmother's name was probably McClean originally, which hints at a cultural connection I hadn't expected at all. And that's only 2 generations. If you trace family names back you'll often find a common ancestor somewhere, but it's hard to say how many generations back it would be. I've personally only really been able to trace one side of my family, and I hit a dead end about 5 generations back in terms of information. There simply isn't anything to go on past that point. Plus, you get an ever increasing tree of ancestors, and that 5 generations is a single line, when it follows that across 5 generations you have at least 32 ancestors. When I can only uncover 1 of 32 family lines to 5 generations, and can't trace it back any further, it shows how complex it can get trying to decide who you are and are not related to. XD (I can't even manage to trace anything past 3 of my grandparents, so... Yeah...)
Look up Rømer and Reumer who made the scale that Celcius based his scales on, except for the dumb idea of turning it upside down. Rømer started with 7.5Rø for freezing and 60Rø for boiling. Reumer improved that by setting 0Re to freezing and 80Re to boiling. The centigrade scale was a small modifaction to the Reumer scale by making it 100 based, aka. centigrade.
First off; These videos are extremely informative, you've got a nice, mild, sense of humor, and honestly, I don't think you could do a whole lot to improve these. They are as great as many. By the way, I did like the animation. Keep rocking the awesomeness.
(Jakob) Berzelius that wrote the “German textbook” was a Swedish chemist working at Uppsala as well; that should probably have been mentioned in the video as this might have played in Celsius’ favour.
In the uk Celsius is still often called centigrade
Same here in Aus
Same in Spain, I still call them centigrade even if that's not accurate according to the video
same in southamerica, its centigrade, i dont know who is stupid aenough to confuse ''5 centigrados'' with ''5 grados'' in geometry...
In the US I've heard it, too
Which makes sense seeing as a 'cent(i)' is a one hundredth.
As I live in Uppsala, it's a share I havent seen that collection. Something I'll have to change!
Share=shame... I wounder when you'll be able to edit on mobile...
+Ola Justin you can if you view your comment in Google Plus. I Do.
yeah but no one uses google +
ANONYMOUS AUSTRALIA look at my previous comment.
Pablo Schoots you are no one tho :l
An excellent video! It is good because of the explanation about the consistency of the Kelvin and Centigrade scales and the "triple point": solid,liquid,vapor of water.
People always look at me like I'm insane when I say this to explain why I call it "Centigrade", as it should be called by all.
What you call a "german chemistry textbook" is actually a translation from swedisch. The author is Jöns Jakob Berzelius, a swedish scientist.
And "Swedisch" is a German word for Swedish. You love the C, don't you? And why do you drop the capital S? Do they do that in Sverige? Or is this the general sloppiness of the entire wold?
@@voornaam3191 whoa chill
But Ze Germans Always Make Ze Virst Letter In Kapital In All Ze Wörds 🤔
@@voornaam3191 if you want to be pedantic, Schwedisch is the actual german word.
There was absolutely no reason for a German to copy a Swedish chemistry book since "Chemistry" and "Germany" were the same thing in those days.
Now if only the US would convert over to Celsius, it's freaking annoying.
That would be a start. It's still going to be annoying if they keep using other units of measurement like feet and gallons that have long since been dropped by the rest of the world, but changing the temperature scale would be a good start...
That and the metric system and we'll be in good shape!
It's about like DVORAK vs QWERTY. DVORAK may be a lot better, but who wants to readjust to something if they don't have to?
IMO:Computers are widespread and everywhere but a large portion of the population still "hunt and peck" I'm 99% positive once everyone is proficient with them DVORAK will win out like the Gregorian Calendar over the Julian. When one option is clearly better it tends to win out in the end. Now how log it'll take us to get there and if we'll destroy ourselves before that I have no clue and is an entire other story hahaha
they definetly should but I guess it would cost a lot of money to change all the road signs
0:40 I like how you use Bach as background music. Bach = true genius.
Could you share the music name pls ?
Anand, sure. Its the first movement of J S Bach Brandenburg Concert nr 4. It is composed for two alto recorders, strings and Basso Continue. Four years ago, two of my students played that piece at the Music school in Helsingborg. Beautiful music! Hi from Sweden
I absolutely LOVE old instruments. Back then you had to do ALL of the work; all the way down to building a box for your new object.
Universal, unless you're American.
Or from Belize. Or the Bahamas. Or the Cayman Islands.
***** At least the US has an excuse with how much it would cost and the huge populace. I don't know why the others haven't converted to metric.
Doommagic I'm American and they taught us the metric system in 4th grade and ever since 6th grade, it is all we use.
Or that asian country
Fahrenheit 🤦♀️
This inverted scale is still less confusing than the Imperial System.
Bro, how does it feel? This was 7 years ago and you are still blowing people's minds with knowledge. Your video covering paradoxes still keeps me up at night 😂😂😂 Thanks a heap for the channel. Has your journey been anything like you imagined when you made this?
The way you say "uppsala"is just amazing
Actually, in Spanish (or at least in Mexico City Spanish) it's pretty common to use Celsius and Centigrade interchangeably [Cero grados Celsius / Cero grados centígrados], although the most common way of talking about temperature is just to say "degrees" [grados].
Same in Brazil. We speak portuguese and celsius / centigrades are interchangeables words.
Same here in Canada.
same here in Mars.
In Colombia I don't remember ever using Celsius, it was always Centigrade.
2:05 - "There is no objectively good reason...." I think I might disagree. Numbers describe quantities, right? While the concepts of hot and cold aren't intrinsically numerical, the amount of kinetic energy something has is numerical. So, I think the fact that heat goes up as kinetic energy goes up is a good reason to assign higher numbers to hotter temperatures. Thoughts?
Accurate, although he might be refering to practical, not theoretical, reasons. You don't use in everyday life the idea that more heat indicates more molecular kinetic energy.
Yeah I reacted to that as well, thought to myself "what about absolute zero"? If higher numbers are used for colder temperatures, then no matter what scale you use there'll be a finite and rather small "highest number", while the negatives go on basically forever. Unless you're some kind of logarithmic wizard i guess.
Your comment just shows how ingrained the ascending scale is in our minds. If the scale were descending, you wouldn't say "twice as hot" to describe something that's hotter.
"...for measuring degrees of something" That's the point. Celsius probably didn't know that heat was a quantity, so the statement stands.
So that would make poor ironworkers toil in minus several hundred degrees...? It's just a poor choice, people always thought a lot more in terms of "how hot" things were and a lot less about "how cold", so more hot meaning a higher number would still come more naturally IMHO.
and in 2019 they abandoned the triple point and simply defined the Kelvin in terms of Joules and the Boltzmann constant: "The kelvin, symbol K, is the SI unit of thermodynamic temperature. It is defined by taking the fixed numerical value of the Boltzmann constant k to be 1.380649×10^−23 when expressed in the unit J ⋅ K^−1, which is equal to kg ⋅ m^2 ⋅ s^−2 ⋅ K^−1, where the kilogram, metre and second are defined in terms of h, c and ΔνCs."
A huge achievement of scientific endeavour leading to a universal temperature scale. Except in the US.
objectively good reason to favor larger numbers for higher temperatures: temperature is a measure of kinetic energy
3:33 Jean-Pierre, not Jeane Pierre. Nice video though.
sorry! I should have double checked. I thought maybe they did things differently in old French...
+Veritasium Very honourable reaction to being proven wrong! Not many people are like that these days.
+Gandalf The Grey proven wrong sounds like a bit of an overstatement... He made an honest mistake which was pointed out. I do agree that his reaction was very respectful however.
Fascinating history lesson! Where I live we have this really weird water that boils at 212 degrees and freezes at 32. ;)
Thats because no one really cares about water freezing or boiling temperatures. However, 0 degrees F is really cold, and 100 degrees F is really hot!
@@keithv4452 Yes, nobody, just every scientist, cook, engieneer, etc. But since USA has one of the lowest ammount of graduates on the first world would explain why they keep using F. and Effing every scientist, btw, 0 C its really cold and 100 C is really hot too, you wouldnt survive 100ºC and neither 0ºC (without equipement), you only find it convenient cause youre used to it, not because it makes sense.
@@DaetBThere's literally no reason for cooks to prefer Celsius to Fahrenheit and scientists only use it because it plays well with using water in volumetric metric measurements. You aren't smarter because you use Celsius and in reality, it doesn't matter what temperature scale you use since doing science deals with a lot more than decimal round portions of pure water in exactly 1 atmospheric pressure. The metric system isn't a religion, stop treating it like one.
Just FYI, Berzelius was also Swedish. He is from the Swedish city Linköping which has a high school named after him (that also happens to be the school I go to)
I was curious why "centigrade" had fallen out of favor. I didn't know it was official.
I love the Vsauce "dive out of camera" move there at the end.
Michael's "Are you kidding me?!" feels so genuine, I love them both
Just made me think, if water boils at different temps due to elevation, doesn’t that mean Celsius readings at sea level will be different than on a mountain even if they are in reality the same temp? For example 212 ° c at sea level would be 210 ° c at 1,000 feet about sea level.
As he said in the video the celsius scale is not defined by water’s different phases. It’s just the water that boils at different temperatures depending on the pressure. The scale does NOT change
It's very funny to listen to you trying to pronounce Swedish names like Ekström
haha, yeah I have no idea how ö is meant to be pronounced so I just ignore it and go with o.
Ö is pronounced like an english "a" for example "a" carrot but you just slow it down, drag it out for a bit.
I think you may pronounce "carrot" differently from most Americans, because that vowel sound doesn't even seem close to the sound in Ekström. To me, the ö in Ekström sounds kind of like the o in the French word _pomme_.
+Veritasium the swedish ö is the same sound as the i in "bird"
+Orenar or the i in girl
Now do a video on the Kelvin scale if you haven't yet
michael1234252 that's just the Celsius scale minus 273.15. Not much to say about it I think.
ok. But I kinda want to know how Lord Kelvin came up with it and why it's named after him.
+ as a once frustrated chemistry student I'd like to know too!
It's so weird hearing/reading my name in these videos
millsathn No, it's celsius scale+273.15
I like that you came back to the misconception at the beginning of the video
The triple point of pure water and the melting point is technically indistinguishable. The boiling point is far more “flexible” and dependant on the exact definition of “one atmosphere” of pressure.
"What temperature is it?" "That would be 10 degrees Carl, Ma'am."
About the point you made that there's no good way to choose an ascending scale over a descending temperature scale: I think from the pont of basic thermodynamics it makes sense to choose an ascending one since it relates a higher temperature with a higher kinetic energy of particles. Anyway, great vid!
On the other hand if the scale was inverted it would measure entropy :)
When you filmed this, I was in the office building behind the yellow "celsius" building, working :) Pretty cool!
And now?
@@bearcatracing007 Now I am nowhere near that building :) But if you are curious, that is the office of MachineGames (ontop of the little mall).
This news hit Michael so hard that now, years later, all he does is use Vsauce to sell his toys.
You said "degree Kelvin" at around 6:13, that's blasphemy!
it was 25 degrees Carl outside today
Here it was 40. Do I win?
LOL -1 Marc here
It's 5 degrees Bob
There is maybe a reason to have a higher number for a higher temperature (and it's funny to image we'd say "lower temperature" when it got warmer if the scale was still flipped). Temperature is a measurement of energy, while "coldness" in itself doesn't exist, it's just the absence of thermal energy. You have to add energy to a system to increase the temperature, and you have to remove energy from a closed system to lower the temperature. I think it's nice that you can convert energy usage and temperature change with positive coefficients.
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You could avoid the negative problem by using Kelvin.
It really is the scale for optimists. No negatives
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You're right, but it would feel kind of odd having water freeze at 273 and boil at 373. People just like round and simple numbers.
At the time of Celsius, noone knew if there could be a thing as absolute zero until.....Kelvin :)
Well, I've got to say that 3 is a pretty round number. 2 too, except for the pointy end at the bottom... 7 is a bit of a stiff though.
So... Celsius invented the scale. He created the gradation and the points that would determine the 0 and 100 ....and some other guy just flipped it. A very minor adjustment. Modern Linnaean taxonomy, is significantly different from what Carl Linnaeus originally wrote. The same can be said of Newtonian physics. The Celsius scale was just flipped and that's pretty much it.
ZarlanTheGreen he said some other guy invented the scale.
+Kiimosabe Where? Using what argument?
Lucasif The Odd Wow, how very explanatory! You should consider a career as a teacher (preferably for younger ages) or as a host of a science show that is all about making science more accessible!
Yeah. Celsius published first.
No, Celsius work was based on Reumer, Lineus and Rømer scale, and his contribution is smaller than that of his instrument maker that turned it back around the way the predecessor scales from France and Denmark was.
That is why we have the Kelvin Temperature range. Absolute Zero is 0 Kelvin (NO DEGREES!) And each increment is equal to 1° C. Water freezes at 273.15 Kelvin and boils at 373.15 Kelvin. NO DEGREES when using Kelvin.
I salute you pronunciation of the Swedish names and places. Excellent
+Veritasium Now that was something I never knew, Thank you.
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I’d just like to give Fahrenheit some love here. He invented the mercury thermometer, and his scale isn’t as arbitrary as people make it out to be. It was never meant to be a 0-100 scale - this was at a time when decimal systems weren’t used for most measurements, or even currency. He based his system around multiples of 12, which were used in many other measurement systems and which we still use to measure time and angles. So 0° = the lowest temperature he could stably measure at the time, and 96° = the body temperature of a healthy person (which we now know is closer to 98.6°). He observed the freezing point of water at 32° using that system, and set the boiling point to be 180° higher (another multiple of 12), then calibrated the whole thing so that all the degree marks lined up on those numbers. I believe he was the first to calibrate his system around the freezing and boiling points of water, even though he didn’t build it around those numbers from the ground up. And finally, I’m biased on this one as an American, but I also find that Fahrenheit is more useful for weather temperature, since the 0-100 range of F° more closely corresponds to local air temperatures you are likely to encounter on earth, whereas with Celsius you’re basically limited to the -20 to 50 range… which seems as arbitrary to me as 32 and 212 for water.
Thank you!!!! My man Fahrenheit needs some cred. I really hate the division between the two measurements.
Personally I don't see what's useful with Fahrenheit and it's use of multiples of 12, but then I don't see any logical at all with any way that americans measure things either. Using water at the base as Celsius does make way more sense since we as humans and the planet as a whole is based on water, that makes it so easy to understand. But then I might be biased on this one as a Swede that grew up not very far away from Uppsala :)
@@gurratell7326 Well, my post was not so much a suggestion that people switch to Fahrenheit as a recognition of the contributions Fahrenheit made to science, such as inventing the type of thermometer that Celsius used to make his centigrade system. The base-12 division seems weird in retrospect, but this was during a time before decimal systems were standard - the money Celsius would have had in his pocket would have included weird 1/12, 1/3, and 1/4 Swedish coins. (Funnily, the US was an early adopter of decimal currency even though we use a weird system for everything else)
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did kelvin create kelvin
Lord kelvin is the one who calculated absolute 0
Actually his name was William Thomson and in 1892 he became the first Baron Kelvin
Paul Duncan yes, if you mean Lord Kevin
Did math create math
CageSomebody. Yes. Yes he did.
874,587th! Aren't we using Celsius' descending scale, for views?
How many you think will he get OR wich number were you counting normally??
I just went for an arbitrarily large number. The views on his videos range form a couple hundred thousands, to 10+million. I have no idea how many this one will get.
hunter harris While I agree with the sentiment you're trying to make, and the argument you've given for it, I think this video will definitely get over 175k. It looks like all his videos get at least a couple 100k, thanks to a subscriber base of 3,5million people. This video _already got_ over 100k in uh, one day.
hunter harris Indeed, that it does.
well now it has 550 k
I love this channel, I learn about things I absolutely never would have even considered
FYI: That "German" book was written by a Swedish chemist, Jöns Jacob Berzelius, so I'd say it was a Swedish book.
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I'm pretty sure by german he meant the original book was in the German language
@@Isac_C7 I think it's just at thing he said somewhere along the video, for a book which clearly displays German without much more thought to it. It's an easy thing to miss. If it was what he meant I would argue it is very misleading. German was one of the main languages used for science at the time, not much different than how all science is published in English today. So with that logic almost all scientific litterature would be French, English and German. And I would say the correct way to phrase that is "this book written/published in German" rather than "this German book".
Thus the end part mean you are going to make more videos (spend more time per week)?
that's my goal! Less travel, fewer other projects and more KZhead.
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I'd prefer we would all switch to Kelvin... It would eliminate a lot of mistakes in chemistry exams. xD
lol ikr
JustAnotherPerson true
JustAnotherPerson no, then the no.s would be high, like 0°C is 273 K so, 27°C will be 300K. It'll be difficult to calculate on a regular basis .therefore we use Celsius, or Fahrenheit for Americans. Mostly scientists use Kelvin.
So, your argument is that one arbitrary scale is harder to use than another arbitrary scale, so we should use one instead of the other? I prefer to accept that people can learn that 270 K is cold to the body, but 300 K is warm. Also, universal adoption of the Kelvin temperature scale could help in understanding basic chemical effects.
as an American, I'm used to Fahrenheit. but I think it'll be a lot easier if we converted to Celsius. it's a lot more convenient, easy to remember and a lot of countries are already doing it. I feel like Kelvin wouldn't work to well.
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