DIRECT TO GARMENT PRINTING VS. DIRECT TO FILM (Pros & Cons)
Can’t decide which printing method is right for your business? Then join us as we compare Direct-to-Garment (DTG) and Direct-to-Film (DTF) printing. We will take you step-by-step through how to decorate a garment using each method, as well as explain the pros and cons so that you can decide which one best suits your needs.
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01:34 - DTG Printing Process
02:32 - DTF Printing Process
03:49 - DTG Printing Pros and Cons
06:27 - DTF Printing Pros and Cons
09:24 - Profitability of DTG and DTF Printing
First, we’ll look at DTG printing. DTG printing is the process by which a custom design is printed directly onto a garment without the use of a special transfer sheet.
Now let’s examine the pros and cons each method offers.
DTG printing gives you the freedom to print garments without the need for special transfer film. Not only does this save you in time and material costs, but it also allows you to print larger or awkwardly shaped designs. Since the ink also binds directly to your fabric, DTG printed designs have a much smoother finish and will last much longer than designs that are heat transferred. Lastly, DTG printing’s speed and efficiency make it an ideal choice for completing large bulk orders.
While DTG printing doesn’t require transfer sheets, it does require you to pretreat your garment before printing your design. While this process is cumbersome, it is essential to the DTG process and it is easy to learn. DTG printing also can only be done on a flat surface that fits inside your DTG printer. This means that DTG can’t be used to customize materials like ceramic tiles or mugs.
DTF printing, on the other hand, doesn’t require you to pretreat your garment before customizing. Also, since you are printing your design onto a piece of transfer film instead of directly onto your substrate, DTF printing gives you the freedom to customize a wider array of materials and substrates. Finally, DTF printing allows you to stock up in bulk on pre-printed designs.
However, DTF printing requires more materials than DTG printing. And since DTF film is not reusable once a project is complete, DTF produces a lot more waste than DTG does. Compared to DTG, DTF also takes a little bit longer to customize a garment and requires a little bit more hands-on labor, making it not as conducive for bulk orders.
In terms of profitability, both DTG and DTF printing offers high-profit margins due to the relatively low material costs. While the upfront costs for a DTG printer are high, the costs to customize a t-shirt using DTG will be around $4.00 - $7.00. And because of the high demand for quality printed T-shirts, you can easily sell your t-shirts for anywhere from $25 - $40.
For DTF, the upfront cost is going to be lower than DTG. However, the cost per print is going to be relatively the same. You can also reasonably expect to charge around the same amount for a DTF printed t-shirt as a DTG printed t-shirt. However, because DTG produces a smoother finish, DTG printing might allow you to charge a bit more of a premium price than DTF.
may i know what work best for kinda grunge tshirt designs . DTF or DTG? and thanks
It's ultimately up to you. DTG printed designs have a much smoother finish and will last much longer than designs that are heat transferred, and DTG is ideal to bulk orders. On the other hand, DTF doesn’t require you to pretreat your garment before customizing, and gives you the freedom to customize a wider array of materials.
@@ricomatv I would say DTG is NOT ideal for bulk orders unless you have the proper equipment setup to run in parallel. For example, multiple machines, a pre-treat machine, a conveyor dryer and multiple heat presses. After running a print company for 7 years, I found that DTG is most effective at doing 1-offs and small runs. We then had top selling designs screen print on to transfer paper still allowing us to drop-ship at time of order as well as taking advantage of bulk screen printing prices. I like the DTF process, this technology was not out when I had my company from 2006-2013. Very innovative
@@ricomatv Good info! Most of my shirts are heat transferred and last a long time (4 to 5 years). Depending on the style and trend, I usually get rid of the shirts and donate them. I am always looking for the most trendy items. Any t-shirt I haven't worn for the last 2 years (DTF or DTG) will be donated.
What is the difference between the DTG and sublimation?
@@Littlefair7 DTG printers use water-based pigment inks, first printing a white base on dark shirts then a color layer over. Sublimation is a different type of ink which actually turns into gas when heated and binds to the substrate. Sublimation ink cannot bind to cotton which is why you see it mainly used on poly blended WHITE shirts
This is a excellent video in explaining the difference between the two printing methods and the pros and cons. Thanks for making this video!
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Wow, thanks for the detailed information on these two options. Very informative, great content!
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You are really good at explaining DTG VS DTF defrinces , thank you,
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Man, you don't know how grateful I am right now!
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Great video! Appreciate your time, effort and knowledge!
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firstly I would like to wish you well and to say a huge thank you for uploading these videos as they have been an invaluable resource to
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Great video, thank you for all the info.
You bet!
you literally could not explained that more perfectly! thank you!!!
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Very helpful! Thank you for taking the time to explain the differences between the two!
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Thank you for your excellent and focused analysis of the pros and cons. I am going to begin producing tee shirts based on my work, and you helped fill in a number of important gaps, which I didn't even know I had!
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Thanks for helping me make up my mind. I will pass on both & stick with my sublimation & vinyl.✌️
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Yea, DTG and DTF are insanely costly. This is for like massive volume and production-level stuff. Rules out 99% of most small shops.
Thank you for this video! This was very informative and thorough. New subscriber!
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Very rarely do I subscribe because someone asks me to in the intro. But the way you delivered the intro, specifically about apparel and everything you need to know and then the word "embroidery" flashed across the screen, I sub'd off that alone. Hope this is good. Just bought my first fabric to sew. I'm doing this from fabric to finish and I need awesome great quality graphics because I'm boutique, not mass. Thank you!
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Nice presentation and I appreciated the speed.
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Good info! Most of my shirts are heat transferred and last a long time (4 to 5 years). Depending on the style and trend, I usually get rid of the shirts and donate them. I am always looking for the most trendy items. Any t-shirt I haven't worn for the last 2 years (DTF or DTG) will be donated.
Thanks for letting us know! It's great to hear that heat transferring is treating you well!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Now I know what printer I’ll be getting. I was so clueless until I saw your video. Just liked follow and subscribe!!!
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Great content I most definitely enjoyed the useful information!!
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Thank you sir For xplaing different options in printing Mr Henry
Sure thing! Thanks for watching (:
Yes. PLEASE do a more in depth DTG dive about the pre-treatment and cons
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@@ricomatv Will do. Thank you for listening and providing this content
Dope and best explanation I've seen,... I subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for explaining the difference
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Thank you for this informative video. It makes it easier to decide. ❤😂 Will look forward to visiting your warehouse soon in my area
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Great informative video. thank you 🙏
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Wow I’m amazed of this video all bases covered thank you so much
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Thank you for the information. It is helpful
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This is very informative, thank you ❤
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Great video! I learned a lot- I’m now in the process of converting my Epson printer to DTF- hopefully I chose the right process 😅
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
If it's a epson f2100 don't. And your will need white ink and a white ink shaker to mix the ink so it dont clog the head. Also you will void your warranty with epson.
Thank you! 😊
@@elevated-apparel Thanks!
Just converted my epson photo 1400. It works great. My only problem is I added a ciss system and the printer isn’t fully open across the top, so my ink lines bump and bang against the sides. I’ll probably remove the ciss, but I’m definitely into this dtf. I have an epson 9890 44” that I may convert if things take off
That was great. Very informative. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent overview! But which of the two handle better through the wash? As I have been using DTG and fine line stuff tends to crack, split and peel away pretty quick in the wash.
DTF has a longer durability than DTG!
@@ricomatv in the video you said that because DTG goes directly to the shirt it’ll last longer in the wash….
Great video, very informative!
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Hello what would you recommend for a new small business that is only making a couple hundred a month and is having to rely on dropahipping with Printify? I'd like to print and ship hats, shirts and decals out of my house but don't have alot of money for a huge investment in a DTG/DTF printer yet. Any good options to just get started?
Hi there! It totally depends on how many garments you are currently doing. We recommend speaking with a product specialist so they can help you with this! ----> info.ricoma.com/march-madness-sale-2023/dtf
I have two two-head Ricoma MT -1502 machines, I now want to get into the garment printing industry swell. I'm interested in purchasing both the RICOH RI 1000 and 2000 DTG printers, what are their prices respectively? Thank you.
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This is a great video, Thank you so much for sharing, I just subscribed and followed you. I think i will go for DTF for my business and as business grows, I will buy the DTG. Because if you think about it DTF is cheaper than DTG and pretty much do the same thing.
Hi! Thank you for the love and welcome to the Ricoma TV family! We are pleased to hear this and we wish you the best of luck. Please let us know if you need help (:
Great Work! Well Done 😍😍
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Tnx a lot, helped me to choose dtf over dtg
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Fantastic analysis. Thanks for sharing. Cape Town
Our pleasure! Thanks so much for watching :)
Hey! Thanks so much for this video!
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Very informative video, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video my friend does dtg printer also work if I choose raster and vector like can it work with both raster and vector files?
Yes it does
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Thanks for the information that matters.
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Thank you so much. I'm a small business owner and want to do both options but probably DTG for our own brand for now. Is there a small DTG printer you may recommend for tshirts for our brand?
Hi there! Absolutely! Please submit a request with our team so they can help ---> info.ricoma.com/25th-anniversary-sale-2023/dtg/o
Extremely helpful
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Thank you for this info. Appreciate it.
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Great video, Thank you sir.
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Some Valid Points. Good Video.
Appreciate it!
Thank you for this wonderful advice. My question is can you “DTG” print logos on side chest on tee shirt garments I’m curious of how to do that
Hi! Of course you can, it's mostly finding the placement for it
Excellent Presentation!!
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i recently started a job at a small business that does DTF and DTG among other things. but it's run by boomers who are not good at training so this video is very helpful! lol thank you for breaking these down in such a clear way
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Very helpful, thank you.
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Thank you for this video , Iam torn apart between the 2, which one is better🙃
It totally depends what you were looking to do, DTF is a bit more affordable because you don't have to pretreat
What a revolutionary printing methods in printing on mugs, T shirts n various other small items. Long live you n RICOH
We agree!
Great information. Can the machine print on cups?
Thank you for watching! This machine doesn't but our Mug Heat Press does! ---> shop.ricoma.com/products/hp-1112hm.
Awesome! Now you can bring to Film with your DTG.
Oh yes!
I have an Epson Eco tank 2800 and want to convert it to Sublimation Ink. Do you have any advice on how to clean the ink containers after filling with the epson ink?
Hi Mario, we recommend speaking with Epson and see if they can help you out with this.
If I want designs located not just on the front center but say a small name on the right side of chest or on the lower back is the DTG still recommended? Or with me physically putting the design on the location I want as i would with DTF method work better?
It honestly depends on the design itself, the size and the type of shirt, or even the amount of shirts you are printing.
Very useful information🙂🙂
Thanks for watching!
Great teachings and information. Pls what liquid did you use to wet the T Shirt before printing on it ? Tnx
Thanks so much for watching! That is pre-treatment and you can find it in our shop > shop.ricoma.com/collections/dtg/products/pretreatment-liquid-light-formula
Thank you for the informative video. Do you know if DTF can stick to EVA foam (the kind used in slippers) and the heat and pressure won't damage the EVA?
Hi! Whether DTF can stick to EVA foam without causing damage depends on several factors: 1. Temperature Sensitivity of EVA Foam: EVA foam is generally heat-resistant, but different formulations may have varying temperature tolerances. It's essential to check the specifications of the specific EVA foam you are using to ensure it can withstand the heat involved in the DTF transfer process. 2. Adhesive Compatibility: The adhesive on the DTF film needs to be compatible with EVA foam. Some adhesives may not adhere well to certain materials, or they might react with the foam, causing damage. 3. Application Method: The DTF transfer process typically involves heat and pressure. It's crucial to follow the recommended guidelines for temperature and pressure to prevent damage to both the DTF film and the substrate. 4. Surface Preparation: Ensure the EVA foam surface is clean and free from any contaminants that might interfere with adhesion.
@@ricomatv Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! I truly appreciate it!
My question is what is the cutout process do they both automatically apply the cutting to the printing? Like for non png photos ?
You have to remove the background or else the printer will print it. You can use a editing program or there are some free options online that do it for you. (:
Hello! Thanks for sharing this. I have some questions, please. What is that liquid treatment for DTG and with what can be replace if I don't find it on my country? Also, after I treat the tshirt with that liquid I have to put the tshirt under the heat press before printing the design? Much thanks. 🙏
It’s called pretreatment liquid and there’s no replacement. And yes you should heat press the shirt after pretreating and before printing
Hello, good afternoon... the new Ricoh 2000 also does the DTF like the Ricoh 1000?
Yes
What would you recommend for as a good DTF printer that is in that 3-5k range?
Hi! We recommend speaking to a product specialist so they can help you out in picking the perfect machine for you! --->ricoma.com/US/contact-us
Why? You can get a good DTF for $2399.
Both have appealed to me but I'm leaning closer to the DTF printing solely for the costs of the printer and materials BUT you mentioned that DTG printing has better durability after washing but by how much compared to the DTF printed items?
Hi! DTG is an excellent method for creating long-lasting, durable prints on clothing and accessories. It can last you 50 washes or more depending on how you wash your garment as well.
@@ricomatv 50 washes? You're saying a print on a t shirt will only last one year?
@@thefertilemind unfortunate huh :/ Im lookin for something with the detail of dtg/dtf but with the lasting material of a heat pressed product
@@thefertilemind you're wearing the same shirt 50 times a year...
@@thefertilemind How many times you're planning on wearing the same shirt? once a week?
Great video but I would like your input on color vibrancy on DTF & how I can improve this process.
Hi Daniel. The most important tip to improve a vibrant print is to ensure that the quality of the picture before you print. It is also important to adjust your color modes if necessary.
So what about if you pre-treat the garment and then instead DTG you do a heat transfer? Is that any good?
Agree! ^
Thank you sir
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great video!
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Thank you.
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Hello Sir, Fabulous presentation.Could you please let us know the material name used for pretreatment in DTG. And the material name of powder used in DTF. Thankyou in advance.
Hi! Our shop has all the information you need > shop.ricoma.com/
Thanks, this was helpful but I was looking for a more direct comparison in regards to durability. You said that DTG printing will last better in the wash, but how much better and at what temperature vs DTF? I want to offer a high quality product that can be washed as many times as possible on high heat (because lets face it, when it comes to graphic tees almost no one reads the washing instructions). I'd also like a more detailed comparison of color accuracy and vibrancy. Also since I'm just starting out, I plan to outsource the printing process for now. Does durability and quality vary a lot between businesses who use the same printing method? Edit: Before people start telling me to use screen printing, my designs are complex with a lot of colors and I will be ordering small quantities at a time, so screen printing isn't ideal for my needs.
Hi! We will be sharing an updated video soon! Stay tuned (:
Do you think a DTG printer would work for A3 handmade paper with desckled edges ?
You should be able to print on A3 paper, we recommend pre-treating it first and then they'll have to cure it on a heat press.
Can you pretreat the shirt and let it sit for days or hours ? how long can it sit after pre treating before printing on it ?
After the pretreatment has dried, shirts can be stored if printing is not required immediately. However, we recommend printing your garments within 30-60 days of pretreatment for the best print results.
amazing video 😀
Thanks for watching!
All my experience with direct to garment the print is lousy but with direct to film it's very well and holds up better plus you can Outsource your direct to film at a reasonable price and you don't have to have all that money in equipment so if you're a small shop Outsource go direct to film you won't be sorry
Thank you for the feedback! We appreciate it!
Which print lasts longer on cotton fabric? DTG or DTF
DTF printing offers quick and easy printing on a wide range of fabrics, while DTG printing produces long-lasting, vibrant prints on cotton fabrics
@@ricomatv thanks for the clarification
awesome video!
Thanks for watching!
Not quite sure which sells more and has better feedback from customers. I value quality from the fabric, print quality down to the packaging. Any start up business owners out there have experience with dtg and dtf sales and feedback? Im currently using services that print, I do not own any of the printing materials and equipment. Dtg where Im from cost a lot more compared to dtf. Do I sacrfice quality or production cost?
Hi! That is a great questions and we are passing it down to the team.
Can ask?wht about the texture or the feels of the printed area on the skin? Does it feel rubberized or plasticized? Is it warm? I lived in a tropical country. Thanks for answering.
Hi Vincent, were you referring to DTG or DTF?
Is it important or must that we should do spray over shirt before dtg process? Is the liquid spray important or if we dont do. does it take damage to design (dtg)?
Without pretreatment, the ink won’t stick to the shirt
@@ricomatv okay, what is the name of this spray 2:20 is?
When I print with a DTG, I don't feel any thickness from the image on the fabric because the inks are soaking in the fabric. Which is good. What about DTF? What I see is, DTF almost like using a regular transfer paper printing. but the blank area did not attached to the fabric. Is DTF ink can be felt the thickness on the fabric surface?
Hi! Thank you for your question. Whether or not you feel thickness with DTF printing depends on various factors, including the ink application, film type, and the specific characteristics of the printer and inks used. In some cases, DTF prints may have a slightly more perceptible feel compared to DTG prints, but it can vary.
We have a 330tx freejet and looking to adding dtf to our DTG that we already do. It seems that the colors are not the same going on fil. What you recommend to not lose the colors that we are looking for? Can we use the same ink that we use in the DTG printer? Do we need different film?
Same ink can be used for DTG and DTF if the printer is a 2-in-1. But not sure if your RIP software settings are causing the issues
@@ricomatv Same film also?
Question have you ever bought & used pretreated t-shirts such as RTP apparel before? If so are they just as good as if you where to pretreat a t-shirt yourself with a pretreatment solution? Do you save money by buying the t-shirts pretreated or is better to buy the solution & do it yourself with a sprayer or buy a pretreatment machine? One last question is their any differences in quality or durability that you have noticed when comparing t-shirts that come pretreated vs doing it yourself with a sprayer or a pretreat machine? It would really help me out a lot if I could hear your professional opinion on these matters thinks for your time I appreciate it & love the videos 👍
RTP pretreated tshirts are definitely just as good if not better than you pretreating yourself. You’ll have to spend more buying pretreated tshirts vs pretreating yourself but you’re trading time for money. We haven’t noticed any difference in the quality and have used pretreated tshirts ourselves when trying to save time
@@ricomatv I kind of figured as much but it’s still nice to confirm what I was thinking with someone who as much more knowledge & experience on the topic I really appreciate the quick response 👍 but again thank you for your time & advice 🙏
No problem. Wish you the best of luck and let us know how we can help
I think i can answer that... Use them (but also alittle bias, as im a wholesaler in Europe) But they (rtp) are better than if you do it yourself, or at least the quality is very consistent. Same result every time. And saves time on pretreating every shirt. Thats also a factor (time is money)
@@johnslater5327 As long as the difference in cost isn't steep, I can't even imagine pretreating shirts myself. Seems like such a huge time sink (and messy to boot). If factories are offering pretreated shirts, and the price is right, this seems like a total no-brainer.
For DTF is absolutely necessary to use that powder? Watched a bunch of videos on DTF and this is the first I’ve seen that mentions this powder. Thanks
Yes, using powder is typically necessary for Direct-to-Film (DTF) printing. The powder helps with adhesion and ensures that the ink adheres properly to the film, resulting in high-quality prints.
This was a good video
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great info.. do you guys offer financing
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Hi, good morning bro. I am interested in RICOH Ri 1000/2000. May I know how much is the cost plz? And I am considering for an A3 size.
And i wish to have a full set of this printing set. Tell me more details about them accordingly. Thank you, Srash
Hi there! Please submit a request to our team so they can help you with this > ricoma.com/US/contact-us
i produce about 50 tshirt per day with pu film heat transfer. i out source my pu film design and i just tranfer with heat press machine. but there is a fade problem after washing. 1.what do u recommend? dtf? dtg? i dont want to have fade and crack problem, this is killing me. 2. polyester garment (net type quick dry)sports tshirt ok with dtg?
For durability we recommend DTF since it usually last multiple washes without fading and yes DTG will work on polyester shirts no issues!
More informative video about DTG please..can this be available in philippines
Hi! Yes, it is available in the Philippines, you can also check out all these tutorials we have done using DTG. kzhead.info/sun/hdqOj9CLb598q3k/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/Zr5qn86ZsH5ndac/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/fdyydLmLjIqiqmg/bejne.html kzhead.info/sun/gbdyZJSmbYmgp3A/bejne.html
Im looking into get a DTG printer, i wasn't sure if you can pre treat tee's
Hi Derek! You do need to pre-treat the garments with DTG.
Hi, i wanted to know can we reprint the DTG clothes or not? if yes then how many times/
Hi there, we don't understand what you mean. Can you clarify?
@@ricomatv so my question is can we recycle the used cloth which is printed through dtg printer?
Would either of these be suitable for printing on a gaming mousepad, compared to sublimation? The end goal is to not feel the printed design, just like with sublimation.
You can actually do it with both DTF & DTG.
Good morning, thanks for this informative video....pls what is the name of the film use on DTF?....thanks
We're so glad it was informative! Which film were you referring to?
@@ricomatv the film use to print and use powder before transferring to the cloth.....
@@akinlabihammed6845 It is called firm, there's no name for it. Just got to a store or online and search DTF firm and powder
Can regular printers print the DTF sheets or do you need a special expensive printer for that?
Regular inkjet printers are not typically suitable for printing on DTF (Direct-to-Film) sheets. Specialized DTF printers are designed specifically for this purpose, as they have features and specifications tailored to the unique requirements of DTF printing. These printers are equipped to handle the DTF process, including printing on the film and applying the necessary adhesive powder.
When to use screen printing and when to use dtg and when to use dtf and when to use sublimation..... pleaseeeeeee respond to me.. having a reallly hard time to decide. And also with is the best breathable printing method
We will be sure to send this over to our team!
I was just thinking of this video as I was watching DTF printed T-shirt
Awesome! Glad to hear that our video helped!
Where can I buy pre treated T-shirts or what you call them?
Hi there, thanks so much for watching. This is a great question to ask in our Facebook support group, Embroidery and Custom Apparel Mastery. This group is meant for all lovers of embroidery with lots of resources and more members discussing topics and helping each other out and learning about Ricoma machines and other brands! We recommend you join this group as we'd love to have you! facebook.com/groups/embroiderymastery
Can you print on neck area with DTG printing? I know with dtf you can just cut the sheet and place it on the neck area where the label goes and press it but can you set up the DTG printer to print on small areas like that? Please advise
Hi Richard! Yes, it's possible to print on the neck area with DTG but difficult. You would have to do trial and error to achieve the results you are looking to get.