Will Hazard Zone flop like Battlefield 5 Firestorm? Even if the mode is good, I don't think it'll be popular and here's why.
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I have to applaud their effort to cater to everyone, but what I don't understand is why they decided to turn "classic battlefield" into just a side mode (portal) now, and then go ahead and basically redesign the main core game experience to such an extent that it doesn't really feel like "battlefield" anymore. That just ends up angering the community and all the veteran battlefield fans. Especially after all their talk about "going back to the roots of battlefield" in BF2042. Obviously, they were talking about portal. They're just shooting themselves in the foot when they do it like this. They should have been clearer from the start. We haven't really heard that much about portal yet, and a lot of people feel that they've turned battlefield 2042 into some kind of arcade superhero shooter now, with everyone playing as spiderman McCay, grappling from spot to spot. I think it would have been smarter to put the specialist system into its own dedicated mode instead, and then just stick with the traditional classes for the main game. That way they could still cater to everyone, but they wouldn't risk alienating all those long-time BF fans. :) The lack of communication is the main issue here. They give the impression that after the BF5 disaster BF was going back to its "roots", and then they show off a buggy beta that just doesn't really feel like battlefield at all, with a lot of classic BF stuff taken out, and everyone looks the same. Snipers with unlimited ammo and so on. At the same time portal is barely being mentioned. How could they not have anticipated this reaction?
It all comes down to monetisation. Putting specialists in the "main mode" they know they can make millions from selling different skins. Where as putting them in the side modes means less eyes on the store. Its almost certainly instructions straight from ea.
@@MGSCOBRAgames Yup. Not even Dice are stupid enough to decide to ditch classes for the base game. This has EA written all over it.
@@johnoneill3654 i wouldnt be suprised if dice decided to put portal in to the game as a compromise for the legacy playerbase. Their way of saying sorry guys, we cant give you the game you want so heres the tools so you can do it yourself
@@MGSCOBRAgames It sounds very plausible imo.
@@MGSCOBRAgames absolutely
It's very strange that we only have about 10 seconds worth of gameplay of hazard zone this close to release... I remember bf4 had a massive multi-player event at e3 or something where the devs played live on stage. That was pretty cool
All the good devs left DICE before or during BFV production, we got the left over scraps now, and EA has gotten its tentacles into DICE management. Basically DICE ain't what she used to be.
That was a different time. Games are made and released and shown WAY differently these days
@@jeffmeyer6820 yeah games are released unfinished nowadays.
Probably because we got another cyberpunk on our hands
Yeah they showed everything for BF4 before release. And behold, it was literally unplayable at launch for at least half a year. After that it took years to polish it to the game we love today. It seems everyone forgets these things. BF2042 beta had bugs and problems but it was still way better than previous games on launch. And it's still a beta with a months old version. And comparing this to Cyberpunk is just nonsense as CP was the opposite. It was hyped to heavens so they get revenue from the pre orders and merchandising cus in my opinion CDPR ran out of money with the massive development time and marketing expenses.
BF2042 had a problem but I fixed it, I cancelled my preorder. Problem gone
Well done
This.
🙋♂️we're 2
I fixed it by never preordering! 😄
Congratulations! Preorder is a cancer in game industry.
Yoo that tank gameplay is off the chain
He’s EB Knispel, and a really good tanker. He’s got a couple vids for bf 2042 tanking
He's playing with a mouse on a PC I'm not even impressed
What settings did he use to get the hitreg to actually work well for him?
Specialists just should be reduced to class skins, and their gadgets added to the class gadget pool, and that's it
But that will make it harder for them to sell microtranseactions
@@nenadmilovanovic5271 how
@@nenadmilovanovic5271 You can just don't buy those, you guys spent like big chunk of bucks in the game alone, or you can like me who loves default skins to death
@@fiddagracepaws5241 Because they are going to sell skins.
@@LiberatedMind1 cool, so what? that'd work with the class skin idea
Portal isn't a "mode." It's the future of the franchise. Continuity of assets in an ever improving physical model / engine.
A side project that only might get support from DIce/EA being defacto core of the series is at the moment a god damn disaster. Its not good we have to sit here clasping our hands hoping Dice didnt fail with Portal like dice has with really everything its done for the last 4 years.
@@d133710n 3 years but who's counting
@@Secr3tYT The initial reception to BF1 was pretty damn poor after the post launch buzz. For a long time the servers browser was pretty dead. So really its it depends how you look at it.
@@d133710n bf1 reception was very good, you just didnt like it.
@@d133710n lmao server browser isnt empty, its bugged. go in and filter out low player servers, youll find a shitload of full servers still
Battlefield 2042 doesn't have a problem, it has several problems...
YES
Hole battlefield 2042 is a problem itself, so much to overhaul and fix and so little time for them..
@@petterwastesson9768 dude all you had was access to a beta build on one map and mode. The game will impress you when it comes out, you don’t have to trust me but I hope you don’t eat your words
@@lobaandrade7172 bruh he's talking bout the beta
@@derbyedits4959 bruh he literally said “hole battlefield 2042” (I guess he meant whole)
The problem is Specialist. The breakaway from traditional battlefield. God like class set ups (Medic self healing giving themselves ammo, motion balls and whatever gun they want). And a few others that are in the same realm of these problems again. They don't listen. They said they would and again they didn't. Example this game mode. How tf is this not FTP, it's almost as if they didnt learn. BF2042 is doomed to fail with the direction, and feed back they are getting. They need to listen to us the majority of the community that keep stating what we don't and do like. This being FTP could have brought so many new people and now well it's like a add on to a game that already is kinda unsure of what it wants to be. I kinda steered away from my original argument, but I think I got the point across. We support and continue to support them and they don't listen. When will it be enough for them to listen.
specialists arent the problem in hazard zone they make more sense putting them there instead of regular multiplayer
@@schiet100 talking about the game as a whole.
If hazard zone was free to play it would be filled with cheaters and have an oppressive micro transaction system
@@glockenspiel604 per usual for most games of that style.
I agree with you on the idea, and I think the core of Battlefield will dye for sure. the game however will be great it will steal a lot of COD players who don't want to play a WW2 game and the will find a modern FPS with a similar gameplay. I have to say I'm really diseaponted about that. but this is how I see things going for this 2042
Here is my biggest issue with portal. They literally made it to where they don't have to do anything. They don't have to make a good game. They don't have to make something balanced or cohesive. If they can have decent net code, their work is done. And they want 60 bucks for you to build your own game.
I'm not buying this game, hated the beta, this game mode looks awful and I already own all the other BF games I can play, so portal isn't really a sell for me.
I said the same thing. I don't want to spend $70 to build my own core bf game. Not paying for a game where I have to build my own core mode, but also be completely limited to only that mode. They are trying to rob the community and do no work
@@ginger0208 that's my point. I'm not sure why people are excited to pay 60 bucks to make a game. I won't buy it either. I haven't had ps plus since February and was hoping this would be the game to bring me back into it but nope.
@@kuhndog-1196 people are too desperate for a new battlefield game and dont have the patience to wait a few months when the game is fixed and on sale. After BF5 you would think most battlefield players would be skeptical of buying a bf game on launch
Thank you, like portal is a sick idea but it’s also nuts that it’s basically going to be US the players making the game good not them, and you know this is going to be in COD and other FPS in the future so that way they can push bad games but hey you can make it however you want. Also I’m hoping that they don’t try to pay wall ideas or paywall servers and what not.
Yea, BF2042 is very fast forgetting its battlefield...
I just want to play 16vs16 Rush on maps actually designed for Rush again tbh.
The good old days...Missin that dope
You don't want an actual battlefield game lmao
@@thoughts9856 the rush community always been in the shadow of the conquest style huge map/team. And numbers won. That’s it. Glad i understand wtfuchattin though.
I think it will be fun once in a while. It's not unheard of a game mode dying though, just look at how many dead game modes BF4 has lol.
Cough cough all but like 3
BF4 main game and campaign are still the most popular Battlefield game by far.
@@bruconicinfernon4noplatoon317 BFV is much More popular. Atleast looking at player counts.
@@8x5t3e7s4r6y according to Steamcharts Battlefield 5's player count is around 17300 with Battlefield 4 at 11500 and Battlefield 1 with 9700. It makes sense that Battlefield 5 has the highest count since it's literally the newest Battlefield game, whereas Battlefield 4 is out since 2013. The fact that such an old game is not only still alive, but has a higher player count, than the 2nd most recent battlefield game is astonishing by itself.
As for the dying modes: you're 100% correct. In Battlefield 4 you mostly only have Conquest Large servers with a several TDM and Rush servers here and there. Very rarely do you see another mode being played and a bunch of modes aren't played at all. And I solely blame Server Browser for that. If there was a fast play option where you could choose to have a random map or game mode people would play other modes too, as long as it doesn't throw you into an empty lobby, which happens most of the time when you select the existing quick play option from Bf4. So most people go into the server browser, search for Conquest large and join the most populated server which is usually playing on Siege of Shanghai, Golmund Railway or Operation Locker most of the time. Obliteration was such a fun game mode that combined the elements of Conquest, Rush and Capture the Flag together, yet I can't find a server on PS4 at all
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*We do not want specialist class* plain and simple
I think the real elephant in the room for Hazard Zone is: what if they want to build some kind of eSports, and they will focus on Hazard Zone?
Hazard zone is the battle royale version of warzone, this is to compete with warzone basically like firestorm was a shot at it. The specialist system was made for this battle royale, its why the core modes no longer have classes as they know warzone is where money's at.
@@Exhalted1 They also tasted some BR money (and esports) themselves through Apex. So why not double it?
@@Jestersage Sadly, thats the reality of it, they did not build battlefield 2042 at heart for core modes like conquest, assault or operations rather they made the game AROUND this battle royale hazard zone, the whole specialist system, on the go attachment system (more useful in battle royales) plus things like the tornado being in all maps if you think about it, was made for hazard ops basically, kinda like there was red bombing zones in pubg where you couldn't go if it was active, exactly like how tornado will direct action and make people move away from it. The gamemodes like conquest and stuff feels more like an afterthought, as if they built up the hazard ops gamemode fully and the maps for it then decided to just add capture points, and tune it a bit.
I don’t remember once being revived in the bf2042 beta lol. We need classes
I gota funny story of being revived in the beta, my squad mate revived me, but he accidently took my gun, so I killed myself to respawn, he took his gun back, he got killed so I revived him, but I somehow took weapon as well, so I respawned on him, he took his weapon back, I dead he tried to res me again, and he took my weapon by mistake again. This happened for a good 5 minutes of use trying to revive each other, but stealing each others weapons as we did.
BF2042 - Fixes and Balances, Game Mechanics and Visuals Needed For Launch User Interface & Heads-Up Display - The User Interface needs to be redone. It was well done in the previous games, but this is a bit bugged. Bring back the normal Scoreboard and Spawn Preview Box. - Loadout Menu: Use the Gunsmith System from Hardline for more in-depth customization. 5 Attachment Options: Optic, Barrel, Laser/Light, Underbarrel and Ammo. - Plus Menu: Optic slotted to the Top, Barrel slotted to the Left, Laser/Light slotted to the Right, Underbarrel slotted to the Bottom and Ammo slotted to the Middle of the Plus Menu. - The HUD is cluttered with every objective being displayed at the same time. Our screens are not supposed to be Christmas Trees. Tone down Objective opacity and Highlight the Objective when Squad Leader targets it. - Valuable assets missing from the HUD are: Scope Zeroing, Commo-Rose, Grenade Indicator, Nearby Friendly/Medic Indicator When Downed, Vehicle/Aircraft Directional Indicator for the Driver/Gunner, Damage Indicator and Squad Wipe Indicator. Movement - Bring back some of the Advanced Movement from BFV: ADS Leaning, Weapon Mounting, Crouch Sprint, Crouch Sprint Dive, Underwater Diving, Combat Roll (Only for 2nd Floor Heights), Grenade Throwback and Large Explosion Knockback. - Vehicles need more weight to them and ground traction, they slide and float everywhere. The flight models for aircraft are janky as hell, previous games had it good. Vehicles/Aircraft movement need work. Map Design - More destruction to buildings, they appear to be sturdier against explosives in this game for some reason. - Levolution events that actually change how the objectives/maps are played would be awesome to see return. Battlefield Moments. - Buildable Fortifications and Stationary HMG/TOW Emplacements would be beneficial for large open maps, that need cover. Resupply Stations near Objectives for Ammo and Vehicle Repair. Game Mechanics - Increase score and XP gain from Team Play Actions: Spotting Assists, Kill Assists, Heals, Resupplies, Revives and Repairs, Objective Kills and Captures. - Bring back Buddy Revive from BFV, takes a few seconds to revive players with 20% Health. Defibrillators restricted to Assault, instantly revives players with 100% Health. - Remove Auto-Repair from Ground Vehicles and reintroduce Self-Repair. Repair Tool should also be buffed. - Reintroduce Mobility Hit and Mobility Kill from BF4. - Aircraft: Buff the guns and nerf the rocket pods. Mainly for Helicopters. - Separate Vehicle Seats into 4: Driver, Main Gun, RWS Gunner and Spotter. Makes it necessary for at least 2 crewmen to operate a Tank/IFV. The Driver, drives. The Main Gun operates the turret. The RWS Gunner uses the Remote Machine Gun and Grenade Launcher. Spotter spots targets. - Ammo count is too low for primary weapons, give us the standard combat load from BF3/BF4. Squad Call-Ins: Artillery and Supply Drops requested by Squad Leaders, given by the Commander. - Remove Plus Menu and Armour Plates from Core Game and keep them in Hazard Zone where they make more sense. Battlefield Fundamentals - Reintegrate Faction Uniforms and Class Roles to the Core Game. This has been a Battlefield feature for decades, don't fix what's not broken. This is not Call of Duty or Apex Legends. - Specialists restricted to Class Roles defined by their Main Gadget. - Secondary Gadgets restricted to Class Roles. - All Primary Weapons open to Class Roles, but require Players to unlock them for each Class Role.
So you want a BF4 remake? Look it is a new game, sure the specialists are bad, but the HUD is good, hit reg is bad because of the fact it is a Beta Build. But I agree return to buddy revive system except for medics/support, air vehicles are useless.
You need a life, and buddy revive is in the game, no matter what specialist you are you can revive squad members, but you clearly didn’t play the beta 😂
@@FaeFactor the HUD is pretty bad since they literally put everything in your face, lighting your screen up brighter and more colourful than a Christmas tree. It needs to be toned down a bit. Well, not exactly a BF4-remake. I just detailed a general Class System that incorporates Specialists, so that the CoD kids wouldn't be too alienated.
@@littlehhh4338 I played the Beta with my mates for the week it was Open. Nice try. Defibrillators belong to the Medic Class. I suggest you quit being an asshole, kid. Get a life.
@@J0LARTE lol stay mad, ur just angry that the “buddy revive” has a different animation in the BETA, keep over reacting clown.
I'd say they could try to implement the specialists in a similar way than Heroes/Villains in Battlefront 2 might end up working.
If there are only squads and no solo Hazard Zone will die very quickly. By the way, Firestorm would be great in the mordern setting.
i remember someone said that if hazard zone doesnt do well than they cana turn it to a br anytime
@@mufradr I think it will be better.
Portal could be such a huge plus though. Look at the longevity forge bought all the connected halo titles. Firestorm flopped because it was a bit of a miss, and the base game flopped because dice refused to give the players what they wanted. Neither mode brought in players, and that just led to the whole player base being bled dry.
To fill in the teamwork aspect to the conquest mode, I think I'll have to run a squad constantly.
Soo...welcome back BF4, hype for new bf is gone.
Getting COD vibes with this new shit right lol bf4 is all we got
Or insurgency and hell let loose 👌🏽
@@pyramidwoodworks If it were CoD vibes I’d tolerate it, but it’s worse, it’s Apex Legends: Conquest. The sliding and weightlessness straight out of Titanfall (where it makes sense because the pilots are literal supersoldiers), the super annoying qUiRKy specialists not being cosmetic-only, and the super open maps with no cover. It’s like they based that whole Orbital map off that one section of World’s Edge.
@@onemorescout “annoying qUiRKy specialists” yeah like mackay saying “woo hoo!” or “ahh ahh ahhhhh!” After my vehicle gets some air time
@@richardschaffer3080 Or just any time Maria opened her mouth. Hopefully a year from now there will be a dialogue volume slider so I have any real shot at enjoying the non-Portal modes. Assuming I even buy the game at all.
This shit got nothing to do with tarkov. Also, if they NEED hazard zone to be payed (terrible decision, smh EA), why cant it be like 10 dollars for people who dont own BF2042 to try it out without paying 60 bucks
I guess the HZ is not dependent game. It's a part of the standard game, just like Rebirth in Warzone.
i’m mostly looking forward to portal, everything else is just far from traditional bf games like bf3-bf4 and doesn’t interest me. base game is just a sad cod-apex-siege-just cause lovechild.
So since it has grappling hook its like just cause? Ok lol this comment section is a joke and this comment is one if the funnier ones.
@@idk2865 go play fortnite child
@@idk2865 the grapple gun from just cause. The “plus system” is literally straight from crisis
I have a big problem with the battlefield aiming system ... with the right stick of the pad despite having zeroed the central and axial dead zone and having tried all possible aiming settings ... with the right stick I cannot track enemies ... in fact I have to move and help me with the left stick ... could you explain this to me and help me solve it!? ... thanks
Aim assist was switched off in the beta. Console scrub
i actually had more fun in the 2042 beta than i did in the last 2 battlefield games.
Yep. People just like to complain constantly now.
@@michaelbeleut6480 I think ppl just want a map pack for bf4 if I'm honest.
The last 2 BF games were trash, 4 was the last good game.
Stop it battlefield 1 was 10x better than this garbage beta
@@GodhandPhemto i agree. feels old now tho
I hope they delay this game. After playing the beta i don't have a good feeling about this game releasing in 4 weeks.
Yeah same, I don't care if the build was few months old, even for a few months old this beta was very very rough.
@@thedead456321 Excatly
you right, im played it today with full realse and its suck, not polished, not optimized, fps drop heavy, and sever down all the times !!! refunded on steam
"Battlefield 2042 has a problem" Yeah, it's not BF4
*BF3
Portal, BFBC2 & BF3 Rush maps, BF4 gunplay and I’ll be happy.
BF4 gunplay is trash, one of the worst out of all BF's unless you're constantly running an AR
Can anyone tell me please, if I purchase the game for xbox one, will I have to repurchase when I upgrade my console to series s or x? Thx
After the beta I know why they didn’t show too much gameplay in the trailers, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for another AAA game.
it literally was a good game it was just that majority of the console fanbase didn't like how there consoles couldn't handle the beta system
@@mullahgaming9446 there are much more problems than that lol
@@mullahgaming9446 I have a PS4 and BF5 runs on it like a dream. BF2024 on a high end PC looks and feels worse. (Low soldier movement FPS)
@@mrunitforge the majority are due to high system needs
@@jamesnyers1721 yh BFV was optimised for PS4 but this game is not because it was for the PS5, especially considering its months old beta PS4 systems would have nightmares with it.
Honest take - everyone should appreciate that from you. For me: There is too much height in the game... It will be a camp fest. The height also makes the maps "bigger" and thus more random (and takes longer to get to the action... or kill a camper.) At this point... 2042 is a pass for me (but willing to change my mind.) A winged suit and grappling hook doesn't make in better than BF4. The more I watch these videos... the more I want to play... BF4.
If bf4 got a resolution upgrade for series x I'd be fine with that, but it's only 720p. Couple that with no deadzone modifier and it's unplayable bow on console.
Most of what you said is negated by Floodzone, Siege of Shanghai and Dawnbreaker alone. People camp the rooftops constantly to this day.
BF4 is a gem!
The stated minimum game settings do not work.. 30 FPS the fall up to 15 FPS 👺
AKA-BASED back at it. Also my boy EB Knispel looking clean in the tanks :D
So Silk, Knispel and AKA are be going the new youtube squad - like levelcap, jackfrags and x-factor back then? I would welcome that! The next step would be to have the top plays from bigmooney xD. Btw. Battlefield Friends will also have a comeback...
I think portal is the game mode that will have the most Battlefield core players , those who want to relive some BF3 ,BF4 and BF5 , the hazard mode sound interesting if they implement that by playing that mode you can get incentives to unlock weapons that come from that mode , skins and stuff like that will make it more interesting to play it !!
Most battlefield players play solo and casual, so I don't see much of a sustainable future for hazard zone, I wish they'd focus their efforts on the Main game and the portal mode, those are the modes that make battlefield battlefield...
But the main conquest game is sound right ? not sure it deserves the 60 euro price tag at release though.
the large scale conquest once again has the ticket bleed even-ing mechanics that BF1 and BFV had. Artificially making games closer than they are in order to make bad players feel better about themselves. Hopefully the Battlefield Portal will be fun because otherwise I see this just being a kinda meh game like BFV.
You don't think having the main multiplayer, portal and hazard zone is enough to justify 60 euro?
Where did dice asked the question about the class System, i need to answer that!
I just want an stable version of the Game for PS4, when i played in it, it was very laggy and hard to land My shots most of the time. I don't mind specialists, but i want DICE to fix the lag, the revive button and all those several Bugs
id like to see if they could somehow fuze the old and new class systems together to create a "star wars battlefront" type of system, but with specific goals to unlocking the specialist medic example: certain amount of hp healed grapple example: kills under a certain max range sniper specialist: headshots with bolt actions then we could also have differences between bots and player soldiers being that AI dont wear plate carriers or helmets. this wont affect their HP but make it clear if the "easy kill" you got was just a bot. im saying this as someone who has a visual impairment, i couldnt even see the BF4 doritos at close ranges so i went purely off of whatever armour the other person was wearing or i challenged my radar to a staring contest (and the accent of the battle announcer). i know im probably echoing the same complaints as everyone else here but the specialist system is *actually* almost unplayable for me. my eyes are looking out at the battlefield and i see all 127 other players as potential threats, if i can see them at all.
I feel ya Brother. Colorblind here.
Its entertainment for us and it's a business for them. I'm sick and tired of businesses that produce faulty products, then promise additional components and remedies of what was advertised (Promised). Yes, I'm stil furious about DICE BFV promising me 28 maps and 6 factions, along with a multitude of WWII weapons. Until the community is reimbursed for DICE'S deceptive business practices, I shall remind everyone daily of their unscrupulous behavior. BF2042 will be more of the same. DO NOT BUY BF2042...!
It’ll probably be on sale for $9.99 by January... from what I see, I’ll wait till then haha.
Yea I won't...until a year later
Why not just do the four main classes, then add a fifth one, "Spec ops", kind of like in BF2, that way they can have the specialists in the spec ops class?
Battlefield wants to copy Call of Duty homework and Call of Duty wants to copy Battlefield homework.
That is exactly how game development has been for the last like 20 years
my concern is if there will be a real reason to play it.. like, in the all out warfare you play to rank up, unlock new weapons and attachments skins, and so on... but in hazard zone, so far looks like you are just looting to then continue looting.. hope there's some sort of progression there, maybe some sort of exodus customization, unlocks and everything
I think the Problem with firestorm is that it was a battle royal a game type players where getting tired of, but portal being able to make custom everything, hazard being a more tactical and squad based thing the base game mode seems to be pushed to the side
What I want to know is if Portal will receive more maps from BF3 and 4.
@Patrick Höing me to lol I just want to play in more resolution than 720p
Hazard Zone looks fun, but in a way is meant to compete with Apex and Warzone, but Warzone and Apex players won't try it because of the 70 dollar paywall, if it was free they attract Warzone and Apex palyer a lot more and sell their specialists skins as much as they want, and the BF community will stay for the base game. This way they can attract both communities.
"a problem"??!? lmao dont you mean problems
I want the AK-24 to have less recoil and the same damage model as the M5A3 just because of its beautiful reloading animations. Hell I'd be fine with it being weaker than the M5A3. I just want it to be more controllable.
U just gotta do long bursts with he weapon and it ends up being nasty, also stand still when u spray for better accuracy
if it will pe possible through portal to set up a normal conquest mode without specialists i will be only playing that, and of course any kind of bf42 or bc2 remake!
Why is this thumbnail and GameSprouts the exact same? As well as being posted at the exact same time?
Love the idea for hazard zone having played hunt, but having the last extraction being so soon after the start of the round is worrying to me. But that’s just my opinion, if it came later (20/30 mins after the start) the game could be played more methodical, I feel like it’s gonna be played like a cod match when a more tactical game is more appealing imo. But I guess we’ll see
I can see myself playing hazard zone like once and never touching it again. Maybe if it was on it's own separate massive map I would but it's literally on the same multiplayer maps which doesn't make sense. Why not just put it in the server browser along with conquest, rush etc.
i think BF 2042 will go through the same fate as BF5 where youtubers will trash the game even tho it was a good one.
Underrated comment.
BFV is my favorite cod after cod 2
Cant wait to put my hands in bad company 2 M95 barret,after so many years.
I think BF 2042(all modes include) going to be great im not negative about it, we have to wait the launch
I think that having the classes with other class gadgets is what is ruining a big part of what we call battlefield like I dont think its right that recon has rocket launchers and anyone could have it with any class if I can remember that was the main thing the engineers used
Not bothering to play Hazard Zone at all but it’s because it’s not my type of game.Did enjoy the beta but let’s see what happens when the full game is launched.
I agree with your assessment. I think they're chasing trends and will spread themselves too thin. What game mode(s) will they support? All of them? Not likely if skins, etc don't sell well
AKA, are you still accepting clips for BF5 and BF1?
Portal sounds interesting, but no way is it a day-one, full-price purchase, which is essentially a basic mod tools. And a mode which only has a few maps at launch at that. The base game stinks but portal has potential... And the only way I’m paying for this game is if it goes on sale, reduced by a fair amount.
Firestorm is a easy fix 1. Make Firestorm deadly no running back into the fire 2. Add health regeneration and simplify armor 3. Simplify looting 4. 2 weapon pickup only primary and secondary same with gadget and grenade 5. One redeploy for solos and add a Conquest flag capture for squad/duos to redeploy teammates except add a longer timer and enemies can see the objective making it risky
if they want to make a successful game, like the previous ones such as bf3 and 4 they should really listen to the community as they're the ones going to play it mostly
On steam one of the descriptor tags for hunt showdown is battle royale
I do agree with all your points, but the missing rank system? Isn't it always like that with BR/extraction games, that players who played the mode longer have better loot and stuff. And also teams on Discord will have an advantage, yes, like in almost every other game, where communication is key. I really don't see your point there..
I don't know if I'll bother.... I just really do not like the look of it. From everything I've seen I'll be sticking with bf4 for the forseeable.
I think the best way for Hazard Zone to make it would be for it to be free to play. I can see people probably playing it early on just to try it out but then just going back to Conquest, Breakthrough, or Portal.
Another concern I have is the ps4/xbox one version. They are last gen for sure, but It's really hard to find a PS5, So a lot of people are stuck with their last gen consoles for now. I hope they don't forget about their last gen version and actually optimize it properly. BFV and BF1 run great on PS4. A similar level performance would be great.
Want to know the funny part? The crossover version of the game is locked behind a pay wall. You cannot upgrade your base game purchase of BF2042 on last gen to new gen without paying an extra $20 on top of the base price of the game which is already in the $80 range.
Similar issue on PC. Ryzen 5 2600 and RX 480 here and the game runs like garbage and it better improve BIG TIME at launch, especially cause no one can get new hardware right now with the reccomended RTX 3060 being over $1000 where I live.
I said the exact same thing @aka-art. Dice is trying to do way too much . They should take out hazard zone and use that for a re-do for moh and just leave bf with portal and everything else it’s coming with.
I'll give it a try but already forsee it'll be for organised clans only. They can stack wins/credits and have a huge advantage so it'll be extremely sweaty and die in a few months.
Hz sounds similar to dirtybomb in cod. Bf players generally want destruction, rockets, vehicles, and teamwork spam. I don't think Hz will survive beyond novelty. I'm planning on playing portal so I can assure I'm playing maps with a lot of destruction--and less travelling-- per capita. The main modes don't seem to offer rewarding objectives for playing. Sectors ruin comeback opportunities, and breakthrough seems to be a generic mix of BF without any tactical goals
I will give each mode a try on my first day of playing. And then play what made the most fun. Biased as iam already i think it will be conquest that gives me the most enjoyable experience, but who knows maybe hazard zone will kick me of my chair and this will be my go to game mode.
Idk who is Dice trying to target with 2042. They are doing everything and not excelling at anything. And we still don't know how Portal is actually going to work.
My main issues with 2042/ the direction of the franchise **1.Rigid character animations in 2042-** Since I can remember, the character animations since like bfbc2 have been great. I remember when bf3 was announced and there was a tech demo of the frostbite 3 engine and it showed the running stopping crouching animations, and I was in awe at how realistic it was in comparison to cod at the time. It was that kind of hunched over, ready to shoot, stance that I love to see in FPS shooters, because even though I've never shot a gun irl or anything, I think you have to kind of lean forward to help with stability or recoil control or w/e (I'm not an expert). I hate it when I see character models where there backs are straight up like in CS:GO or BF hard-line. and even in bf1 in some cases, but that was mostly on snipers if I remember correctly. In 2042 the stances and fluidity of movements is so rigid and lifeless and lacks realism (I know that battlefield isn't a "realistic" game, but the pseudo realism it DOES offer should carry over to the character animations). Love it or hate it for whatever reason, BFV's character models and animations are S TIER, and it's like they have gone back years in terms of animations? I just don't know how much I buy the whole "it's been in development the longest a battlefield ever has" line. **2. a lot of getting stuck on stuff-** Like in every battlefield up until V. I though this issue was done. **3. Floaty vehicles that have ice for wheels-** For a franchise that prides itself on the fact it is an FPS with vehicles never have I ever got in a jeep/ atv in a bf game (I'm pretty much useless in a tank) and said, "yes! This is a good experience" the way they handle is like you are on ice wheels, and the 3rd person camera?! Why does it only rotate on one plane of existence? If you can look around AND up and down in a tank. Why cant you in non lethal vehicles. Also how the vehicles, like lag when you collide with something ? Considering COD is COD I've had much better experiences with the vehicles in MW than I have in any battlefield game. HOW!!! **4. Shooting mechanics feel like they have gone backwards since bfv. -** I don't know exactly what it is but in BFV I feel snappy AF with any guns. The recoils make sense and my sensitivity feels great. Same with bf4. Bf1 I just hipfire lol. Something just feels OFF in 2042. At any rate. How weapons perform in BFV makes sense to me. **5. Weapon sights-** IDEK. So, In MW that game has some of the best sight attachments I've ever seen in a game. Anything with a holographic sight looks super realistic, with the model in general, and then the sight itself, how it has like ... Light rays (lol) coming off of the reticle shape. As opposed to like cold war and 2042 where reticles look like 2d images. Look at the monocle sights in MW and 2042 and you will see what I mean. Or you won't. **5. Graphic quality has gone down since bfv, only better thing in 42 is the "dynamic" trees-** I just feel like the details in BFV's environments and the in general look of it is much better than 2042. I think 42 looks like BF4.5 (not that bf4 is a bad looking game btw) **7. Basically everything revolving around the specialist system-** **7.a.** Specialists are an ok idea in general if this is the direction that they want to take the game (wether solely for monetary gain or not) but having the same ass operator on both teams looks so lazy for a AAA shooter. Why didn't they just use the same format of operators (or w/e TF they were called) in BFV. Instead of making a face for the specialist just make "specialists" a class and then you add 1 character per faction that does the same thing "hook guy" does. **7.b.** I HOPE TO GOD that they don't try to do some BS paywall/grindwall-esque system like in Apex for unlocking new operators. I will kick off. **7.c.** I don't think the decision to add in specialists were fully Dice Devs. You probably had theirs and EA's executives in their ears thinking up ways they can monetize the skins in bf. Because if we really think about it, I don't think that the battlefield franchise is very micro-transaction friendly franchise. So they are looking for ways to monetize it further than the initial £60. ** 7.d. ** I like different characters but giving them whole ass classes is shit when you could have just out all of their gadgets in a gadget slot instead. Wtf do I know though. On a side note there are going to be big problems in general with balancing specialists. **8. hazard zone not being f2p until they realise noone is playing it essentially making it dead on arrival-** The decision to make hazard zone not f2p will imo DESTROY the game mode before it can even walk. You'll get jack, westiie, Lossy, Stodd etc. Playing it for like a week or 2 and then they will stop because the content won't be there. Can anyone really imagine the likes of DOC or TIM to quit warzone and all that revenue to play this? I think it won't catch on because it is WAY too complicated for casual players and I think it will be hard to get a win for most. At any rate most of the people paying the £60 for 2042 are going to be buying it for the "BF experience, not to play hazard zone. Most of the player base will play it for a couple days or maybe just a couple times even then drop it. EA/Dice will panic and release it F2P but by that point the damage will already have been done and it will be dead. I hope it's not the case and I'm talking shit because I would like to play the game mode tbf. Also if firestorm 2 existed they could have done so much with that **9 bullet velocity is fucked-** The bullet velocity in this game is WAY too slow. Especially with snipers. On top of that, the bullet DROP is ridiculous also. Feels like bf4 or worse... Satisfying when you get headshots tho. **10.sound is HORRENDOUS like actually dog shit trash-** IDK if it was just me because I e heard some KZheadrs say the sound was good. Although for me it was absolutely AWFUL. Just one bug drone of sound the whole game. Warzone Audio is better. **11. In general buggyness (minor as beta)** **12.poor performance across the board** 3600 5700xt 70-ish FPS @1440p on low settings with big stutters here there and everywhere is not acceptable I think. Maybe it's because it's a beta ? **13. Features in BFV that are not in 42** So so many features it in this game that should be e.g. crouch sprint. Prone mechanics. Supply station. Probably more but j can't think rn. **14. The overall problem with my favourite shooter franchise not having any direction and having an identity crisis** In between every release of a battlefield game it's like they try re-invent the wheel every time. I'm not talking about era's, weapons, or gadgets just even the game mechanics and how it plays. Imagine, if they just stuck with BFV'S kind of UI/gameplay mechanics but just refined them so that everything actually works as intended and the stuff that does work we don't even have to re-visit. It feels like sometimes the Devs want to make one game but the executives of the companies tell them they must add in this gimmicky thing. Every time basically breaking the game or taking resources from one department and moving them on to this gimmicky aspect. Leaving another core aspect unfinished. **15. Executives putting in silly things they think will make more money but just doing it all wrong** It's like they are shoehorning in these specialists straight from apex legends for instance. There could be more but this is what I can think of for now.
100% agree with the specialist and classes
If you want to know what's Hazard Zone like, go play The Cycle: Frontier at Steam, same concept, different games.
I'm curious to see if everyone's going to be in all at warfare or portal.
All at warfare at the start till ppl start making portal servers of the experience that player is looking for, portal is gonna make it so you can have so many different experiences everytime you hop on, its gonna keep this game alive for years
the title is understatement of the year
I'm not saying its simple but if they can deliver what they promise then its great but if they can only offer the core game modes like conquest thats fine by me I can wait for the other modes if they need time I just want that old battlefield feel I got from 4
I love how you are using the same thumbnail as gamesprout on their newest video
I noticed that too lol
I loved firestorms , but I could never find servers to play on
Remember the "Incursions" mode in BF1?
I hope portal has a different engine . I dont get why dice is not making a remastered b3 and bf4. These games are so old and still so popular.
Feel bad for people spending $5k for a gaming PC to be disappointed by this game.
who buys a 5k gaming pc?
hilarious that GameSprout uploaded the a video at the exact same time with the same thumbnail
I have both videos side by side in my feed 😂😂
I thought it was a bug xd
I'm bitter about the specialists and the fact that there is little to no teamwork like previous games. I did have a lot of fun in the beta though.
I really love how naive people are. Sure, the main game is completely bug-filled and broken, but Portal will let us play as we want without such issues"...as if the Portal mode will run on a different engine and not have the bugs and issues. Gunplay will be based on the 2042 system. ditto for movement. While it may not have specialists if you don't want, the game will be set up for them as well, with all the issues. Spotting and communication will not be there, being the same as 2042. They are updating everything, except the maps selection will be limited. Why people think the ability to maybe code some things (to make it accessible they will have to simplify the system) will magically fix the game...shrug. Wishful thinking is what EA and EA DICE are counting on to get the older people to buy the game at launch. I'll stick to the popcorn and just watch the train wreck unfold as always.
Exactly the way I feel about RunningField 2042. Unfortunately, as long as people keep lining up to throw their money at these buggy hot messes, it will not get better quality-wise because EA/Dice know they have a captured player base with low expectations. What a shame they've taken the BF franchise in this direction, but good luck to those who buy into it.
you can adjust Gunplay and Movement speed in Portal, EA had done a horrible job marketing it if you people do not know that
I'm very concerned about Portal, idk, to me it sounds like something way to ambitious for DICE, I'm sorry but I don't see they pulling that out without a bunch of problems... hopefully I'm wrong
Hz looks very complicated to me . I don't like borzone though i do play cod multiplayer every night .gave up on bf after 5.2 nonsense .I hope they get rid of specialists ,I want to come back to bf not some other type of hero shooter .
I’m all in on portal. Probably not going to touch vanilla or hazard zone
Tbh, when BF3 came out people were sh**ing all over Premium because it "was going to split the playerbase" and yet it broke players records for almost 2 years. Might be just me, but after playing Warzone since MW launch, if HZ was FTP, I'd probably avoid it. So, making it part of the primary paid game also brings in players with a similar mindset.
Portal is sounding like the only mode I’ll touch. 🙄. I always loved Killzones multiplayer with the round not really ending for a long period of time the objectives just changes after people win the “round “
I just don't see how DICE will be able to finish all three modes in time for launch. Or, they could probably finish them but there will then be a lot of glitches... Hopefully they will delay the game a bit further!
we need bf3's squad deathmatch back
That's exactly how the specialists are setup though? Medic, Support, Assault, Sniper...
Dang, im more excited for hazard zone than normal mode now. Sad to hear its not universal. But hey maybe we'll all get what we want.
The way I see it, i’ll be staying away from Hazard Zone… i don’t have friends. 🤷🏾♂️ it be like that sometimes.
Will the game mode rush be in 2042..used to love that
It will 100% be available in Portal
I think the whole game couldy be really good in 6 months to a year if they get back towards their BF roots. Hazard Zone is something I'm quite interested in, having enjoyed games like Tarkov and Vigor. The game has a lot of potential, certainly one to watch.
Honestly I don't get the whole complaint about the specialists. On portal you can leave them away - as far as I understand. And portal will offer lots of interesting game modes. It only doesn't offer Breakthrough and Conquest (maybe that is what people complain about: They want Conquest without Specialists?) Anyhow, I guess DICE can easilsy add these two modes to portal, if needed to make everybody happy, by Portal.
EA should make the game price lesser than $60 for last gens. It's absurd you play the half what the new gens have in their game, but you play the game with poor optimization and small maps with few players for the same money the new gens are playing. EA should get into agreement with the last gens to make the BF 2042 for the last gens about $40.
They don't force anybody to play the game on last gen consoles. BF3 didn't give a F about console players, BF4 did the same with the last-last gen consoles. If you're not on the latest hardware, you're missing out on the newest BF title. I mean it even includes a copy for a proper current gen console aswell.
@@Battlevader I am talking about the price, if they want more players they should change some things.