Learning To Love Cyberpunk: 2077's Story (An Analysis)

2024 ж. 7 Нау.
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Cyberpunk 2077 is a game I hated, and then kept hating even after they patched it, and then learned to love. How did I overcome the irresistible drive to be a hater? That’s what we’re here to find out baby 2024 YEAR OF THE LIME
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  • Sorry for the hiatus. This was really really fun but i'm itching to get back to bread and butter. More mod videos soontm

    @ramblelime@ramblelime2 ай бұрын
    • its ok, the tribunal pardons you

      @th0mas_papill0n3@th0mas_papill0n32 ай бұрын
    • No apology necessary, KZhead is always up to you. You don't owe anyone anything, and your channel is yours to do what you will with, and I mean that in every practical sense! I appreciate what you do, I'm enjoying this video, and I'm happy to hear from this comment what you're itching to make more of in the future!

      @realzachfluke1@realzachfluke12 ай бұрын
    • return of the king

      @b0tster@b0tster2 ай бұрын
    • This was a very well thought out video essay and review. I think you have some fresh perspectives and not looking at the game through rose colored lenses like a lot of us are guilty of since the 2.0 launch. I hope the CDPR guys take a lot of what you said into account when they really start leaning into the sequel’s development.

      @BillyFMitchell@BillyFMitchell2 ай бұрын
    • Any chance of you covering Fallout: Sonora? It recently got a translation to english

      @bigswigg3631@bigswigg36312 ай бұрын
  • Johnny's lack of class consciousness feels kinda intentional to me, and part of the tragedy. His disdain towards sex workers actually reminds me of some folk who actually babble about "proletariat/worker unity" all day but they will arbitrarily decide certain people aren't of the working class because they don't fit "hammer&sickle aesthetics". "Bringing up question without solution" is a valid and realistic approach IMO, because some dystopian settings aren't not meant to be "saved/fixed", they are fictional warnings to tell us to never go there or a message about "to struggle and try" regardless of the circumstances, because we don't have a clear answer in real life as well. This is similar to a lot of anti-war stories, they are more like warnings than any cohesive "guide on how to avoid/end war". And ultimately a lot of stories focus on personal salvation/victory for that reason, it doesn't matter if you end war and capitalism for good, you saved people and gave them a chance to live and fight.

    @simonshephard3834@simonshephard3834Ай бұрын
    • u get it, good job

      @sillylittlesheepjax6009@sillylittlesheepjax6009Ай бұрын
    • Mike Pondsmith, the creator of the tabletop game, said pretty much this. "Cyberpunk isn't about saving the world, it's about saving yourself".

      @JawadBhuiyan@JawadBhuiyan20 күн бұрын
  • 22 mins "audio cuts in like this" lmfao the Hbomberguy style

    @SulMatul@SulMatul2 ай бұрын
  • I recently did the ending where I gave Johnny my body, and I thought it was really beautiful. Not like V had nothing to live for, but more like he felt that giving Johnny a second chance at a full life was more valuable than having 6 months of agony knowing it would be over so soon

    @Richielikesballs@Richielikesballs2 ай бұрын
    • It's kind of tragically poetic that Johnny bought a guitar for that friendly and musically inclined kid during the ending, almost like extending some of V's selflessness to Night City before he left the alluring yet godforsaken city.

      @ConfusedRevolutionary@ConfusedRevolutionary2 ай бұрын
    • I picked this ending on my first playthrough entirely because I had a 20 Int Netrunner and decided he'd think it was pretty cool to be uploaded to the web, lol

      @tannerbarnes7392@tannerbarnes7392Ай бұрын
    • lmao i picked it out of spite. By the time i finished the game i was so fed up with it's world i decided to give johny another chance to suffer the world and himself, and go into the net myself. Personally i see it as a better chance at life too, ascension of sorts.

      @cinnamontoast1586@cinnamontoast1586Ай бұрын
  • oh he BACK!!!! On a side note I'm really glad people are starting to love this game. I unironically loved it since day one because everything about it felt so personal. The stories on every level focused not on changing major systems and structures but of finding meaning and purpose in human connection with what little time we're given. The setting is a gorgeous exaggeration of an existential crisis and instead of asking how to fix it, it asks what to do when you find yourself there. By forcing the player into these no-win situations with no happy endings (as Johnny says: "In this city? For people like us?") in every quest and side-gig, it forces the player to confront how they feel about things and what they value when even the power fantasy isn't enough to cause change. Most games have a "right choice" in the sense that they solve the problem and everything is good again. In Cyberpunk, the "right choice" is simply the best thing you can do in the moment, which is rarely even good but leaves you with a more meaningful comfort that someone might, at least for a while, be happy or at least a little less hurt because of what you did. You can't save SoMi and yourself, but you can give SoMi a chance at survival. You can't save Johnny and Yourself, but you can live six more months or let a (hopefully) redeemed Silverhand continue your work. You can't save Saul or Rogue, but you can take the secret ending and guarantee you take no one down with you. You can't save the Preachers kid, but you can kill the BD editor and his son to stop them from continuing their work, even if they'll be replaced... but you have to deal with watching the fallout. The game does a good job of telegraphing what the consequences of an action will be so the player has to choose what they value most. Each ending carries a philosophical perspective for and against and presents it as a high-octane thought exercise for the player to work through as they consider the details of each decision, revealing in the process the details of their personal philosophies. Also what is this River slander!? I will not have it! (the cop argument is valid. Counterpoint: you get a "Fuck The Police" tank top if you sleep with him. I also think his story, including him being fired, is meant to showcase just how corrupt the NCPD are.)

    @ClaraDunn-rf4pf@ClaraDunn-rf4pf2 ай бұрын
    • It’s definitely emotionally engaging, and in some cases, exhausting, due to the disturbing isolated events and well you are basically always in the middle of a bloodbath, either arriving late to one, beginning one, or arriving late to the beginning of one. Yet despite going through all those fights and shootouts and the disturbing insights regarding a future where materialism and wealth is above human dignity (That does not sound familiar at all), the game was incredibly philosophical and emotionally punishing yet it managed to remain entertaining. An excellent game, at least according to me.

      @ConfusedRevolutionary@ConfusedRevolutionary2 ай бұрын
    • Also Johnny saying "Can't believe you made me fuck a cop" 😂

      @JawadBhuiyan@JawadBhuiyan20 күн бұрын
  • While I ultimately agree, that I prefer the epilogue of the nomad ending, I really like the secret ending's finale. I just wish the game was a little more of an RPG and allowed me to choose what epilogue I want to have. To me the secret ending isn't about embracing the "become a legend" childishness, but about never giving up and fighting until you don't have any fight left and then some. It's the same way So Mi fought right until the end, it took her everything, but in the end she succeeded with your help. The main themes I took away from the game were not giving up and forging strong bonds. I feel like V succeeds in the suicide run, not because they embrace being a legend, but because they are just doing this to survive, not concerning themselves with reputation. Which is why I interpret the glory ending the same way as convincing Joshua to do it for himself; fuck the media, corps and everyone else - they aren't using you - you are using them, same as V.

    @husenberg2520@husenberg25202 ай бұрын
  • You mention disliking the Johnny's Body ending because to you it feels out of character and hearing that actually made me reflect on why I feel similarly to the Phantom Liberty quiet life ending. To me and how I see V, they would never want that, going down that path takes away everything they wanted out of their life, effectively a punishment for taking another persons autonomy from them. I usually pick the Don't Fear The Reaper ending and while yes the V at the end of that path does not learn much, the spirit of being an ignorant, stubborn kid who doesn't learn but still gets to say "fuck you I matter" will always be the most dopest shit ever. But at the same time I completely understand and agree with the idea that you don't need to be some special protagonist to have a life that matters, I think that most people (including me) are unexceptional and that fact doesn't change the value of our lives. My perception of the Quiet Life Ending as being one of the bad endings stems from how I view and play the character of V and how I play most of my protagonists in these games. What I'm saying is your video got me to think about my own view of this game in a different light and that's cool as shit. Thank you Warlockracy.

    @sparsehumor7521@sparsehumor75212 ай бұрын
    • V did say that he could become a fixer. So it's not completely depressing. Plus it didn't make sense for me. I played without cyberware when I got this ending. So I was like who cares that my combat cyberware is not working.

      @zoubeirfaouzi149@zoubeirfaouzi149Ай бұрын
    • @@zoubeirfaouzi149 Not sure how valid this point is but : Takemura with no cyberware was still really good at fighting, if you save him after the parade he can assist you in killing Adam Smasher which is technically quite a huge feat, so yeah V with no combat cyberware could still be a decent merc, perhaps forming new bonds and stop working purely as a solo(?) or become a fixer and use his reputation like Rogue did.

      @luhaze7454@luhaze7454Ай бұрын
    • Yoooooo im always happy when someone mentions my favorire eastern eurpean youtuber

      @evilsclone2499@evilsclone249919 күн бұрын
  • I think cyberpunk is the first rpg ever made where the player is not the main character, or the main focal point of the entire world .. the world doesn’t revolve around v, u can’t decide the fate of the world or the actions of every NPC u come across, but u can effect them in small ways that ultimately do alter the state of the world by the time it’s all said and done.. this may have been off putting to most veteran rpg players, but I absolutely loved and understood it right from the jump, maybe because I am definitely not a veteran rpg player, so I went in to cyberpunk with little to no actual expectations of what the game would be like, and I just fell in love with this game from the start, I finished my first play through and then immediately started another, and then another, and then another after that, and 3+ years later I’m still doing new play throughs

    @SayMy_User_Name@SayMy_User_Name2 ай бұрын
  • Babe wake up new ramblelime video

    @josefwinkler8467@josefwinkler84672 ай бұрын
  • We’ve missed you, funny lime man

    @Abethor@Abethor2 ай бұрын
  • Johnnys ending(s) and the Phantom Liberty endings are essentially DeShawns question: Blaze of glory or quietly fade away.

    @marcusbergman6116@marcusbergman61162 ай бұрын
  • I think the reason Cyberpunk (the franchise) is unwilling to actually address collective action or class consciousness is because it goes against the fantasy of the setting. If Night City ever solved its problems, it wouldn't be Night City anymore. The setting exists to be an environment where the player can inhabit a very specific idea of how the world could end up. If it ever got its shit together, it would be a different setting entirely. It's kind of like the trope of medieval stasis, right. Like a sword and sorcery setting will have hundreds of years pass and nobody invents much of anything new, because the second someone messes with gunpowder, the setting changes. And that's why you won't see words like "socialism" enter the cyberpunk lexicon, because even starting that conversation would lead to the end of the setting. Cynically, this is also why Bethesda keeps inventing new reasons why the east coast can't organize. Because once someone sweeps the floors, it no longer looks like a post-apocalypse. (Yes I'm aware Fallout is intended to be post-post-apocalypse but Bethesda has clearly picked their side of that debate). Cyberpunk is only allowed to discuss the problems, not the solutions, because if it ever did, the story would have to end somewhere. And this is something the game actually recognizes, with Johnny bemoaning just how eeriely little Night City changed in over 50 years. Cyberpunk is defined by cultural stasis. By design.

    @ZekeFreek@ZekeFreek2 ай бұрын
    • I like the idea in this comment, but I would add that CP2077 somewhat does address socialism. There's a quest where you can track down a guy called Swedenborg who is taking about "post-capitalism" etc. He turns out to be a fortune telling machine that has been reprogrammed with some of its words turned into left-sounding things, then connected to the net. What I take from that is that they're saying left wing people are just saying a particular set of words in random combination with nothing behind it, a demoralised perspective. I also think the Cyberpunk world could exist while acknowledging Socialism. Socialism is not inevitable, it relies on people creating it consciously who can fail in that task for an extended time (e.g. the last 100 years), especially if anti-capitalism is an explicit crime as it is in Cyberpunk. The USSR also still exists so some proposition of how it still exists and what its nature is could be made.

      @lionidor1132@lionidor11322 ай бұрын
    • This is an issue with most "never-ending" franchise with no clear end game. Much like how in Superhero stories where amazing powers and tech are mainly used to beat up bad guys instead of contributing to the betterment of society.

      @simonshephard3834@simonshephard3834Ай бұрын
    • ​@@simonshephard3834 Because it isn't real.

      @nohbuddy1@nohbuddy1Ай бұрын
    • @@nohbuddy1 It being real or not has nothing to do with what I am talking about?

      @simonshephard3834@simonshephard3834Ай бұрын
    • @@simonshephard3834 Yes, it does. Complaining things don't have an end is ridiculous

      @nohbuddy1@nohbuddy1Ай бұрын
  • There is a gig you can do for Rogue in which she hires you to kill or knock out and capture a man who has been beating and intimidating workers that try to stand up for better pay and conditions. The text explaining the gig mentions that back in her day employees had unions to help them but now they are gone, so she does what she can in her capacity as a fixer to help them for no charge.

    @markmikolay9019@markmikolay90192 ай бұрын
  • One of the things about Phantom Liberty and post 2.0 Cyberpunk that I can’t get out of my head is how much better the base game could have been if it wasn’t rushed out the door as undercooked as it was at launch. PL feels much closer to the Cyberpunk we all had hyped up in our heads in 2021 and it’s crazy to think of what could have been had that level of quality been evenly distributed throughout more of the game.

    @KickinRadTopHat@KickinRadTopHat2 ай бұрын
    • The next game will be epic if this is the foundation.

      @zoubeirfaouzi149@zoubeirfaouzi149Ай бұрын
    • As someone who WASN'T hyped up: your wrong. Cyberpunk has always been this good, y'all were just too glazed to see it. Peeps talking about Cyberpunk like it's the next GTA V? Newsflash! GTA was the best game of the decade. Unfair comparison especially before the game even releases. Y'all were dreaming, admit it. Step down off the soap box. Play the videogame and have fun!

      @ibelieveingaming3562@ibelieveingaming3562Ай бұрын
    • @@ibelieveingaming3562it hasn’t always been this good lmao you’re just blindly glazing the game for the sake of being a contrarian. Game was trash at launch. It’s like No Mans Sky fanboys saying it’s always been good.

      @HHTwice@HHTwice12 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ibelieveingaming3562what brand of shoe polish tastes best? I wouldn't know personally, but my friend was asking so I figured I'd forward the question to you. Seems like you know the subject rather intimately

      @Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel6 күн бұрын
  • Daddy's back with the milk and ciggies AND a Cyberpunk video? You spoil us.

    @nagger8216@nagger82162 ай бұрын
  • probably the greatest opening of a video ever

    @sydknee_yt@sydknee_yt2 ай бұрын
  • Ramblelamb does a Cyberpunk thing? Okay Choom.

    @louiecanicatti8310@louiecanicatti83102 ай бұрын
  • We aren't back, we never left.

    @kienesel7@kienesel72 ай бұрын
  • The moon ending for Somi has heavy implications that she will be a slave to either night corp or the rogue AI depending on who you think the blue eyed man is associated with. None of the endings are really happy for her.

    @TheRaumente@TheRaumente2 ай бұрын
  • Just to ramble on for a minute here about one of the endings and how it effects me irl, the phantom liberty ending where you let go of Johnny and everyone you know genuinely made me cry lol. Just because I have went through something extremely close to that,lss unfortunate circumstances led me to have to move away from my home town and not come back for a long time, and all I could think about was what I left behind and how everything around me sucked compared to that and how happy I’d be returning and seeing my friends and such. It wasn’t like that at all, everyone forgot who I was and moved on, everyone but me, and it crushed me on a level nothing ever has. That feeling is awful and seeing my V go through it was so heartbreaking it made me go to therapy.

    @Left-sh1db@Left-sh1db2 ай бұрын
  • Made my day with the meme at the start

    @Cheemichanga@Cheemichanga2 ай бұрын
  • It's nice to see you're back. Out of all the little Videos I watched on cyberpunk 2077 yours is the one that for me atleast has reached the deepest understanding of the game as it lead me to re-evaluate the gripes I had with the Story and setting. I am defenitly looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts in the future no matter how much downtime will be inbetween, as your already published videos will still be available and have succeded in creating meaning. (Sorry not a native speaker, hard to express what i actually want to say)

    @schrogar@schrogarАй бұрын
  • I played 2077 on release, didn't dislike it, no fast travel, had raytracing on and drive through the city in Jackie's Arch on 1st person view... even with all the bugs and half-baked systems, it was special to me. Edgerunners reminded me of it, no wonder I liked Edgerunners so much. But when 2.0 released I went back into the game, I ironically find myself unable to enjoy it anymore. I could no longer afford so much time and energy into games, that when I saw the street cred and level numbers and those map markers I straight up lose all motivation...

    @osYukari@osYukari2 ай бұрын
    • It seems daunting at first but once you get going you'll see you level up pretty fast compared to other games. There's still a grind but this is the one game whr it wasn't like work. Or you could just do the main missions and level up with the story

      @s3eriousbl9ck26@s3eriousbl9ck26Ай бұрын
  • Man I love your videos, I find them very refreshing. Also you have no idea how much I wanna hear your opinions on lonesome road lol

    @poymannyng1845@poymannyng184510 күн бұрын
  • So happy to see new content from you in my Sub box 💕

    @mango78910@mango789102 ай бұрын
  • God dammit I just realized that So Mi being a dying netrunner due to overuse is a parallel to case in Neuromancer

    @Teethmafia@Teethmafia3 күн бұрын
  • I've been going through and watching your videos again ramblelime, and what I like about you is the fact you add so much pizzazz to your work. Your remind me of how I write a online when i should be writing paper caffeined out of my gourd about some hyper specific topic, and I mean this as an extremely high praise compliment. But you prob already know that, so I came to make this comment to ask, as a guy who was about to become a patreon sub to you, how the hell do you manage to have the most deadpan emotionless dry patreon reads I've ever seen. I'm not even mad it's just funny. Lmao

    @RyanBride620@RyanBride62027 күн бұрын
    • If you can believe it, it's actually intentional I don't want my read of some patreon names to be more enthusiastic than others and I don't trust myself to maintain the same amount of enthusiasm across every name so I default to reading it as straight as I can across the board for equality's sake. Admittedly not the best approach, and I should probably just find a way to be equally enthusiastic rather than equally unenthusiastic, but you're the first person to mention it so I guess I never felt the need to. But now I do so thanks LOL Also thanks for the kind words I appreciate that a lot :D

      @ramblelime@ramblelime27 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ramblelime that actually makes sense that's its intentionally and seems pretty rational to me. Don't feel compelled to change it just because I said something lol. No problem! Thank you for all the good videos! The least I can do is thank and encourage a creator I know is going to see it.

      @RyanBride620@RyanBride62026 күн бұрын
  • Great video, honestly the story of Cyberpunk 2077 is a pretty complicated one for me. I think me personally I'd want to commit to the ending in Phantom Liberty where V actually gets to live their life even if it means sacrificing a lot and compromising a bit on some morals. But I can totally see why a majority would disagree there, this isn't one of those games where I feel one ending is objectively the best or would even say my "preferred" ending is the best one. Always cool when a story can inspire that feeling, and I feel all the endings are worth talking about even in terms of what they can offer to the player as an additional angle to think about the whole experience.

    @Shift_Salt@Shift_Salt2 ай бұрын
  • I was not only JUST thinking about your channel, but I was ALSO thinking about picking up 2077. I have to ask, is it comfortable in my walls?

    @EnbyNomad@EnbyNomad2 ай бұрын
  • i been waiting for so long

    @hudsonboadway3164@hudsonboadway31642 ай бұрын
  • i feel kinda dumb saying this, as i don't have a solution, but i think your thumbnails to be bolder. I almost didnt click on the video at all even though I've been waiting for it because it just didn't register in my brain as something interesting

    @donnnut@donnnut2 ай бұрын
    • Zoomer brain. I do understand what you're saying though, think that unique thumbnails can be good. Ones that immediately identify who made them I mean. For example Raycevick or most of Act Man's reviews. If im scrolling and see one of those I pay attention

      @lemonlimejames@lemonlimejamesАй бұрын
    • @@lemonlimejames cmon man its design psychology not zoomer brain i do agree with u though

      @donnnut@donnnutАй бұрын
  • Have you ever heard of the Fallout 3 mod, Mothership Zeta Crew? It’s an incredibly ambitious mod that adds a new story after Mothership Zeta. Unfortunately I don’t believe it’ll ever be finished, but I definitely think it’s worth checking out.

    @JXEditor@JXEditor17 күн бұрын
  • With the game getting a second chance, I Hope more people get into the tabletop game. Mike pondsmith has made a rich and hauntingly beautiful world and i wish more people would explore it beyond the anime.

    @zackanderson7440@zackanderson74402 ай бұрын
    • CP2020 has been on my list of tabletop games I really want to play since before CP2077 was even a thing, but like a lot of older cyberpunk ttrpgs it has a bad habit of being kind of overly complicated and a pain to play so it’s always been a hard sell to my group. I hear that Cyberpunk RED is much more approachable to rules-lite heads like myself though, might need to give that a look some day.

      @KickinRadTopHat@KickinRadTopHat2 ай бұрын
    • Either one is fine @@KickinRadTopHat

      @zackanderson7440@zackanderson74402 ай бұрын
    • I would love to, but I just really dislike tabletop rpg’s

      @legitplayin6977@legitplayin697717 күн бұрын
  • I do love when fore shadowing Is aliterary DEvice!

    @Bundle85@Bundle852 ай бұрын
  • Yoooo you're back, nice.

    @TeeBeeDee@TeeBeeDee2 ай бұрын
  • Comment 2: Danish Twink For God got me fuckin cacklin bruh

    @SulMatul@SulMatul2 ай бұрын
  • 41:39 its on the same lines as "this is the only language they understand" moment when the bad guys who have a point have to do something irreversibly evil to remain the bad guys. similarly you couldnt have an actual bartmoss collective that had an internal division so the messages they were sending out were constantly being re edited thus making them look garbled, it had to be a prank, a troll, a bill boards programming gone wrong. I just wish more games had the guts to do what fallout new vegas and disco elysium did.

    @tk5800thesecond@tk5800thesecond2 ай бұрын
  • My feelings on 2077 are as follows: The isn't what I was told by the horse(the developers) and it wasn't what I was looking for. I had bought the game on release for the ps4, had a very good experience(three crashes across a three week playthrough) and was left unsatisfied with what the game offered. I could find some fun in the gameplay, the world was and still is to my opinion very barren and not fleshed out. The story and characters have far too many lows compared to the highs. V as a character is paradoxically both your and not your created character, the closest comparisons I have are Geralt and Jensen. Both are preset characters that you can influence the story with choices for, but the options are still within character even if loosely for Geralt. V at times doesn't feel like a character you have crafted while also feeling like a blank slate for your options. As for the world, I want more of it and what we got just makes me shake my head. I will add this in because it is the games biggest sin: When you have me defending Fallout 4 and 76 for outfit and gun customization we have a problem. Not entirely sure I like the new skill trees however, I thought the old system was more of a hot mess to look at more and could be confusing to figure out. But I the new system is sort of hit and miss for me. While the advantages are much more clear, you can still end up being a jack of all trades that at least is specialized in one area better than the others. I have been able to recreate my build from launch with ease and much of the new cyberware made this even easier to do, because I could just put a perk into something else.

    @Jrockk999@Jrockk9992 ай бұрын
  • I enjoyed the game but this is a good and well thought out critique of the game, you make many great points.

    @mistafizz5195@mistafizz51952 ай бұрын
  • Legit was about to come and comment to see your opinion on the game, as I just started playing it

    @snokey1153@snokey1153Ай бұрын
  • Fucking amazing video dude, I was looking for a CP video to listen to while playing and couldn’t find a good one, but this was everything I wanted n more. (Gonna have to show my dad this one too)

    @Misery_Of_One@Misery_Of_OneАй бұрын
  • can't wait to see you talk about fallout tv show :D

    @OXY187@OXY1879 күн бұрын
  • ur my goat man

    @ManWidDAMask@ManWidDAMask2 ай бұрын
  • Unlike any other Cyberpunk review I’ve seen on KZhead

    @TobeWilsonNetwork@TobeWilsonNetwork3 күн бұрын
  • amazing video

    @tf2scoutpunch175@tf2scoutpunch1752 ай бұрын
  • RETURN OF THE KING

    @ShamusTheTurtle@ShamusTheTurtle2 ай бұрын
  • I like your funny words, lime man

    @alexwatts1064@alexwatts10642 ай бұрын
  • Johnny Sliverhands spitting facts at the opening

    @bottheskitarii8881@bottheskitarii88812 ай бұрын
  • citizen sleeper music hell yeah

    @jonah3936@jonah39362 ай бұрын
  • Nice channel bro

    @mistafizz5195@mistafizz51952 ай бұрын
  • when it comes to the life paths they have their own pros on cons imo nomad: pros: best intro of the 3 and a cool exclusive side quest Cons: least interesting/impactful exclusive dialogue options Street kid: pros: makes the most narrative sense and introduces night city the best cons: no note worthy exclusive content corpo: pros: best and most interesting exclusive dialogue options and offers some interesting world building cons: worst intro especially narratively. weak exclusive quest

    @Z-Mikes00@Z-Mikes003 күн бұрын
  • I can't finish the video because I'm playing phantom liberty at this moment. Just wanted to say that I appreciate this perspective. I play RPGs with a very surface level view. How I feel after this moment, whether a line or quest ending resonated with me. Cyberpunk definitely leans into this style of storytelling and questing, with very segregated arcs and plotlines. The most extreme version I can think of was Nier Automata, which drags you from arc to arc so rapidly and intensely that it even disoriented me, making me wonder what was happening, or what the point was. Despite that, it succeeded in making me remember a lot of these story beats, even if they dont always feel cohesive. Nier Automata might feel especially artificial because of that, with small biomes that don't feel like a "world". But another of Cyberpunk's strengths is its world as well. I might not care about every district but I definitely cared about locations like pacifica and the badlands and factions like the Maelstrom and Voodoo Boys. Cyberpunk might not be a masterpiece with a strong message to tell, but instead its a buffet rpg very much like Witcher 3. A platter of different bites and flavors tied together by this world that you'll grow to love.

    @sauceinmyface9302@sauceinmyface930223 күн бұрын
  • Really want to watch this video but i haven't finished cyberpunk yet som i'm gonna have to wait

    @Yuyo545@Yuyo545Ай бұрын
  • HBS Shadowrun and BG3 just ruined 2077 for me. Releasing in a new apex for the full context RPG does this game no favors,raising the standard far above it.

    @thescarlettgirl202@thescarlettgirl202Ай бұрын
    • Ok,it's beautiful trash with personality.

      @thescarlettgirl202@thescarlettgirl202Ай бұрын
    • @@thescarlettgirl202 if u love hardcore turn based rpg maybe, cyberpunk does something very diff so i dunno why would u even compare both

      @sillylittlesheepjax6009@sillylittlesheepjax6009Ай бұрын
    • @@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Fair enough,it has an audience as an action arcade rpg. The advertising did promise the world,but as a more action-focused experience,it's pleasing folks.

      @thescarlettgirl202@thescarlettgirl202Ай бұрын
  • The suicide ending is definitely a true ending, to me. It's amazing and touching. Endings are not supposed to be "positive", just like in movies and shows. But obviously some others were great, too. And yeah, I'm in love with this game still, and I even enjoyed the early versions.

    @VadimPakhutkin@VadimPakhutkin6 күн бұрын
  • As someone who played this a total of, checks Xbox stats, 10 days most of which came after 2.0 this game is probably my favorite game to play when bored.

    @arkbros1307@arkbros130716 күн бұрын
  • i feel cyberpunk 2077's story being more about finding out you are going to die from what is pretty much a terminal disease and how you and those around you react to it. make this game way more intresting then it being another corpo bad conspiracy plot that most cyberpunk stories are.

    @megamike15@megamike15Ай бұрын
  • YAYY NEW RAMBLELIME

    @dae1en@dae1en2 ай бұрын
  • "River is a cop... No thanks" -hes just like me frrrr

    @radiofloyd2359@radiofloyd235918 күн бұрын
  • NEW RAMBLE VIDEO~

    @wheatpuncher27@wheatpuncher27Ай бұрын
  • your first point is kinda redundant because one of the first perks you can get is a 1 percent boost to healing for every percentage of health lost. Not saying i dont love the game i really love it , its amazing but it is a pretty powerful perk.

    @JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCER@JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCERАй бұрын
  • I rate this one 77 cyberpsychosis out of 10

    @Massivefckindork@Massivefckindork2 ай бұрын
  • i understand the last ending being your favorite because its the most human but it also feels like running away. should you turn your back on suffering if you cannot change it or think you cannot ?

    @JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCER@JORDAN-CHRISTOPHERSPENCERАй бұрын
  • I’m gonna have to slightly disagree about the Don’t Fear the Reaper, but it is more do to Meta context than in-game characterization. I did almost every ending before that one, and I was really sick of watching V’s friends get killed helping him pull things off. I went through the final mission with the mantra of “No one else needs to die!”. My biggest issue with that ending is that V doesn’t leave the city with the Aldecados, but that’s just me wanting to have my cake and eat it to.

    @Jack-kb5nb@Jack-kb5nb12 күн бұрын
  • The DLC ending low key was sad AF too

    @jasonrodgers6192@jasonrodgers6192Ай бұрын
  • Writing V like Geralt I actually think works to make the narrative better, at the cost of making a worse RPG. V is an amazingly compelling character to me, which is something we can’t really get with a custom character. I will always prefer games with custom protagonists, but I’d be lying if I said female V isn’t my favourite video game protagonist.

    @jacksonjabba@jacksonjabba27 күн бұрын
  • i should note that Alt created the Soulkiller which is why Johnny bombed Arasaka tower Johnny isn't just infused with irony, he's comedy

    @triplehelix3207@triplehelix3207Ай бұрын
  • As someone who hasn't played Cyberpunk, only seen videos on it, this video was beautiful. Your analysis of the endings especially and the way none are truly "good" (except for leaving), but rather make sense for individual choices V might make and weigh reminds me of so of the best stories and RPGs out there. As soon as I get a proper pc and not just a laptop that can't run anything after 2012 at max resolution and can't run anything after 2015 when I turn everything down to the minimum (and even then not well, my current playthrough of Fallout 4 is a... low poly, laggy, freezing mess that I'm still enjoying regardless), my first purchase is going to be a copy of the game. Because even if I don't like it after I play it, this video has convinced me I'll certainly want to play it so I can form that opinion myself.

    @heatherfar1977@heatherfar19772 ай бұрын
  • The sole problem of Phantom Liberties ending was, CDPR cruelly ripped off all of the connections in a very crude way. my whole work is just nothing by playing that expansion 3 days non-stop. I understand that the Cyberpunk's development ethics were not suited to my play style, however, I fully understand it after more days. but still, they had pulled it out like nothing. like they did not care how we put through that playthrough. that subbing Juddy? She was long gone. Pannam? MIA. River? had been corrupted to live in Night City. So he does not want to talk with V Kerry? empty promises cause of growing fames. and others? won't mentioning here. CDPR's message was clear, Die with Fame, or Live with nothing. You can't have both. but in this way? This was the crudest shock treatment I ever had in Storytelling RPG. Of course in all Mediamix, not as the 'Dragon Quest: Your Story' Movie, But was next to that. for that, I will say this one more time. Where was my past play time? for nothing then?

    @chao7514@chao751414 күн бұрын
    • Note that This is not an arguing statement or sort. your Vid's analysis of Cyberpunk was logical in all sense. This is just a pincer pointing out the problem.

      @chao7514@chao751414 күн бұрын
  • I love you ramblelime

    @starlightengineer@starlightengineer2 ай бұрын
  • I'm so pogged up right now

    @M3GAMAN100@M3GAMAN1002 ай бұрын
  • You know whats funny....every time I see a critique of a rpg from a youtuber I like I always say to myself, man I wish he examined Enderal, that game needs more love. And then I remember you are the same M**F** who made one of my favorite Enderal critiques over a year ago, that was a nice surprise. Im still gonna wait for third person combat on Cyberpunk, I just cannot fight in first person, I feel sick.

    @fanmovie357@fanmovie3572 ай бұрын
  • I find it unfortunate Kerry's story didn't really grab you, I felt that it was all-taken-into-account one of the best stories the game has to tell. My problem with 2077, really, is that there are a lot of little nuggets of extremely good writing sprinkled throughout with an absolute shitton of filler and a main story where even though you theoretically have agency you just wind up as a pawn for everyone around you. It's a power fantasy where you're powerless, with a mediocre main story carried by excellent characters (and also River).

    @CherriPicking@CherriPicking8 күн бұрын
  • back when i first played around 1.36 update, cyberpunk to me was just a decent 7/10 game with some fun parts but also a lot of jank across the board. Even with 2.0 update i wasn't all too impressed. It was better, just nothing that would warrant calling cyberpunk amazing or a master piece by any means. A lot of things in the game to me are either limited or jank. Be it the limited customization in weird ways, the subpar driving physics making 90% of vehicles unfun to drive, the close to useless crafting system (seemed way more important before the overhaul), many visual effects are honestly quite ugly like various particles effects. Customization is something i take particular offense towards as i absolutely love customizing my characters and vehicles and buildings etc. And for a game like cyberpunk, an RPG set in a world where you have access to technologies that would allow you to straight up become a protogen dragon if you desired to, the limited customization is bleh. Of course, the clothing system is quite great with loads of options able to be used on the fly, but inability to change the clothing color at will, or hell, at other besides hoping to find the specific piece of clothing with a specific color, is really disappointing. What's even more disappointing is the lack of any weapon or vehicle customization. For weapons the only way you can customize them is adding a scope.... and for vehicles you literally can't do jack except for the 3 vehicles CDPR made a whole ass on the fly color changing mechanic. 2077 and i can't bloody spray paint my car from red to green at some garage.

    @Verchiel_@Verchiel_2 ай бұрын
  • Wake up babe New ramblelime just dropped

    @cdpm1703@cdpm17032 ай бұрын
  • Loved the Cyberpunk game analysis bits, and laughed a lot at the political and philosophical stuff. Thanks! I also loved the "small cities" part. Always liked to see how people whose whole lives consisted of living in a depressing concrete jungle visit somwhere where the air is clean and there isn't that horrible grime everywhere. As always, small to medium cities are so much better for your life than any of the massive ones will ever be.

    @courier6932@courier69322 ай бұрын
  • regarding Cyberpunk's critique of the system with no alternative to it, Goro Takemura sid it best "You oppose the corporations, their order, their world, in a midnless way, yet you offer no worthy alternative" (because proposing the well known alternative to capitalism would have the entire irl american surveillance apparatus over you)

    @nyft3352@nyft33522 ай бұрын
  • when my friend got me this game a few months back i was like this shit might kill my pc but i decided to fuck around and find out. turn out i really like the game and story, i normally wouldn't give two shits about the story. but the main story, side story hell even gigs draw me in. i really like night city seeing on how hellish yet beautiful the city looks. only thing i don't like abt the game is i can't join trauma team. they are my favorite corporation in game .

    @cloak679@cloak6792 ай бұрын
  • !!! more ramblelime videos to rot to :3

    @valbrrie@valbrrie2 ай бұрын
  • Nah dude. There's no way the truth ending does not involve Johny. IMO it's the ending whr Rogue dies and Johnny rages.

    @s3eriousbl9ck26@s3eriousbl9ck26Ай бұрын
  • Somebody ring the Dinkster?

    @thedinkster7547@thedinkster75472 ай бұрын
  • Ah you're alive

    @jdkessey@jdkessey2 ай бұрын
    • Working hard or hardly working?

      @peebins1238@peebins12382 ай бұрын
    • @@peebins1238 Your mom

      @jdkessey@jdkessey2 ай бұрын
    • @@jdkessey Your dad

      @peebins1238@peebins12382 ай бұрын
    • by allah keep fasting@@peebins1238

      @jacksgames241@jacksgames241Ай бұрын
  • johnny silverbear adam smashbear jackie welles dexter debear t-bear songbear solobear reed morgan blackbear rosabear myers panam palmbear judy alverbear bear bright

    @morgalorga1987@morgalorga19872 ай бұрын
  • Story is great, there is nothing that you must learn to like it.

    @Gajus_Julius@Gajus_Julius6 күн бұрын
  • My canon ending is don't fear the reaper and givin the body up. First, i just cant take my family to die fighting arasaka and my new gf to fight freaking cyborg legend smasher. My life isn't worth all the aldecaldos. And with just a couple months to live, yeah, i take a bullet for my friend. I have nothing to lose and He's got everything to gain. Yeah he already had a chance at life, but diying for nothing or saving/giving life to a guy that is basically a part of me now? Easy choice. Amazing video bro!

    @facundomorera9762@facundomorera9762Ай бұрын
  • Happy, people finally realise what was always good in the game

    @kaushalsuvarna5156@kaushalsuvarna5156Ай бұрын
  • Loved the vid but you didnt talk about edgerunners😭

    @blakehartley1395@blakehartley1395Ай бұрын
  • Hmmm. I'd say the game reflects the TTRPG game world and its cynicism. The corps are in charge, are horrible, and fighting them is like cutting off a hydra's head. You'll never overthrow them. Cyberpunk has a lot of faults (for instance, I was jonesing for the mind control Peralez questline to be the DLC) but I can't fault if for portraying the game world the way it is in the source materials. It's a craptastic world. That's the point. I agree 100% that the life paths should have shown how different iterations of V approach their problem. It never made sense to me that the Corpo and Nomad versions want to "go out in a blaze of glory" and become "the biggest thing ever in Night City." Nope. Corpo V wants a rich life, stick it to the people who stuck it to them. They want their life back and a bit more so no one can ever mess with them again. Nomad? Probably wants to run off with the aldecaldos (at least they have that choice). It'd be great if those life paths actively worked towards similar goals. Or maybe Nomad V wants to "make the Bakkers great again!" or make Nomad clans more powerful so they aren't at the mercy of corps. Anyway, their methods and routes should reflect their life path more. At least give several side quests that are exclusive to those life paths.

    @songsayswhat@songsayswhatАй бұрын
  • I would love to see some baldurs gate videos

    @roberto5866@roberto586626 күн бұрын
  • I don't see Johnny's ending like that. i see it more as v trying to protect the people they know and stop them from dying in arasaka tower. as with the rougue or the nomads, on nomad ending 3 nomads die trying to help V. so v doing everything alone for yourself as a cyberpyscho is better than sacrificing the lives of others in the process

    @aliceyagami8260@aliceyagami826025 күн бұрын
  • "I kinda love this game, guys."

    @jimmy18389@jimmy1838914 күн бұрын
  • yayyyyyy citrus nation

    @aestheticsock8772@aestheticsock87722 ай бұрын
  • cool beans

    @piwot8939@piwot89392 ай бұрын
  • While I do agree that it's unfair to say that CP77 has *nothing* to say, I think it's more than fair to say that it has nothing *new* to say. Panam's ending is a stereotypical "family is all that matters, not money or glory!!" message, and it being the best one is disappointing. No other questline besides the convict one say much of anything about their subject matter, not even the Delamane one. It's why the convict quests are universally agreed upon as being the best in the game. Phantom Liberty is incredibly good *because* its made by a dev team entirely aware of this fact. It takes what they were trying to say in the original game and gives it actual flavor and a more interesting philosophical argument & conclusion than a basic moral that's repeated ad nauseam in American media. I feel it's also important to point out that a lot of the negative reaction about the story's substance came from it focusing on cyberpunk as its subject matter. No other genre has, over the last three decades, garnered such an intensely leftist and queer community. So for a game selling itself on that to just ignore the themes that most fans of the genre love about it, the reaction was inevitable, even if expected from a AAA game. For anyone whose read through all this and was disappointed in a similar way to me, Cloudpunk delivers on a lot of what CP77 doesn't. It's also beautiful and vast, with a living world and a story that emphasizes the minute effect the player has on the world around them; it doesn't shove the most important piece of technology in the world into the player's head with one of the most important characters in the city's history loaded onto it.

    @RaeIsGaee@RaeIsGaee2 ай бұрын
    • IT doesnt ignore the themes u just dont understand the genre. Cyberpunk was never abt FIXING the system. IF u fix cyberpunk society then it is no longer cyberpunk genre but some other scfi story. That quests with fortune teller is perfect example on why many left wingers dont understand the genre

      @sillylittlesheepjax6009@sillylittlesheepjax60092 ай бұрын
  • Yes, we are(almost) dead ¯\_(👀)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    @Hecarim420@Hecarim420Ай бұрын
  • How dare you play Possible Futures while talking about the best ending.

    @aidanfleming7229@aidanfleming72296 күн бұрын
  • 22:25 Explaining this isn't funny, it's just sad. If the joke is cliche, cut it, don't put a frame around it.

    @jamescalvert4471@jamescalvert4471Ай бұрын
  • finally some good fucking critical analysis post-2.0

    @Gabrielgbvlog@Gabrielgbvlog2 ай бұрын
  • Cyberdunk

    @romulusnuma116@romulusnuma1162 ай бұрын
  • Stockholm’s syndrome

    @ThePerfectBalls@ThePerfectBallsАй бұрын
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