Large RV Industry ACTUALLY Made a Quality Off Road Trailer
A spacious off-road camper with standing height and home comforts, the Lance Enduro is designed to get you where other trailers can't. The large rv industry finally made a capable off-road trailer that lives big! It features a large pass-through galley kitchen, robust construction, and off-grid capabilities. With a shower and bath, plus standing interior height, this camper feels a bit like home. The cozy interior maximizes space, and innovative storage solutions accommodate your outdoor gear. With it's 2 burner Dometic stove and the large dual zone Dometic fridge/freezer, you will have plenty of cooking power! Its robust construction, featuring reinforced steel and sturdy suspension, ensures durability and stability even in the harshest conditions. The Lance Enduro Trailer also features innovative storage solutions, allowing you to bring along all your outdoor gear and equipment. Bikes, kayaks, and other adventure essentials can be securely transported, ensuring that you're ready for any expedition that comes your way.
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365 degrees of lights? Wow. This thing illuminates areas where even the sun don’t shine
😂 I was hoping nobody caught that. I thought about editing it out, but it was a good talking point. Like you said, not only are they great lights, but they’re breaking the laws of physics.
Oops I was thinking about years and not degrees. I saw it for the first time about an hour before the video was shot! My humble apologies!
Over $70,000. What is Lance smoking??
My guess is, like so many other manufactures. They are just jumping on the off-road trailer pricing bandwagon. Are some of the trailers out there justifiable in terms of price, probably. But I’d say the majority of them right now in 2023 are inflated, just because they can. Well, maybe I’m exaggerating a little bit. The supply chain issue has really impacted things. But has it impacted it that much?
@@PlayingwithSticksomg it’s over priced by AT LEAST 100%
I understand what they are trying to do by making it this way with bells and whistles but where is the line that separates camping and outrageous glamping? Plus, what kind of income do you have that you need to go “camping” in this? If you make that kind of money would you even want to go camping? My wife calls it “pretending to be a hobo”
Whatever it is I definitely need some too.
The Airstream Basecamp X is priced the same if not lower. Craziness.
Fun little camper. I have to say that the camera work and video editing in this video was entertaining and EXTREMELY professional. My jaw dropped at the video craftsmanship.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much.
Opus 15 is a rock crawler and the top of the off road market at $53K
I love the fact that they've got the rear kitchen and the accessible door! I hope they integrate those features into more trailers in the future - we're not an off-road camping family, so I'm still waiting for that unicorn build that's got capacity inside but light and easy. Someday!
Great build, for the right person. Lance is widely known for their quality campers. I figure that our new Casita 17’, with an upgraded suspension, could do most of what this trailer could do. For $30,000. Happy Trails!
Being a baby boomer with an interest in overlanding this trailer hits all the right notes. My wife likes room and comfort and we are at a point in our lives where we can seriously consider investing in something like this. For folks in their 20s - 40s this is probably too expensive unless they are living in it full or near full time. More choices is always a good thing. Love your channel, one of the best out there.
Yep, it's good to be a boomer!! I feel sorry for all the young people in this world because it's getting harder and harder to obtain the American dream!
Thanks for ruining the country boomer
Taking the weight and price out of the conversation, I LIKE this design. Well thought out space and basic needs as well as visually easy to live with. It's sturdy and I like all the materials. Storage is significant and easy to get to. When I look at all the Van's on the move right now, this is not much different. Plus you can disconnect from the tow vehicle. This will be a fit for a good portion of a lot of people out traveling, who I notice seem to have the $$ to own this trailer. Thanks Drew!
Agreed! And you didn’t even mention that pass through. What did you think of that outdoor galley kitchen? I think that’s something, that I often find lacking when I’m doing the van life or RV life. Glad you enjoyed this one Jenn.
Yes! The galley with the high hatch cover is WONDERFUL I like the stove location. I'm never a fan of pulloutintothe wind stoves. This one surprised me. I immediately voted yes on the stove location. And the pass through! Whew! The question for me is always morning coffee. Winner, winner!
I’m right with you on the morning coffee! And May is too! She’s come along way over the years.
@@jennstuart2031definitely a good basis for building your own
This is amazing! Thanks
Awesome content-it was worth the wait!
Love hearing this! Thank you so much. It’s comments like this that make it all worth it.
$72K to $77K! 😀 Plus the potential cost of a towing vehicle! A very narrow niche market indeed! 😀
Sometimes I just think maybe I live in a bubble. Maybe there’s a much bigger portion of folks out there that wouldn’t bat an eye at this. But most folks I know would laugh at me if I told them, I saw a trailer at this price and size.
@@PlayingwithSticks It amazes me how many motor homes I see on the highway! There are apparently a lot of people with money out the. 😊
Every time he says "ON HERE", take a drink.
And if he says "On There" you have to pound a Smirnoff Ice.
Wow! It is a nice trailer! I like loads of its features. Great features add up in weight, for sure. I’m happy with our little GeoPro 12RK.
Hi Drew. I took one look at this rig and came up with the same negatives you did. If you bought this and had the heavy duty truck to pull it, you could drive a sports car and stay at the Hilton and save money. I just got back from Colorado and I thanked my lucky stars I didn't take Little Red, my tiny trailer, as I got down a well known, to me, dirt track about a mile along a ridge on one side and a drop-off on the other. I hit a snow drift across the road and had to back up along that narrow track. I was sure it would be snow free as it was in a clear sunny spot but the drift must have been very deep in it's day. Now image this huge rig out there. The weight plus anything you add and 40 gallons of water, plus 30 gallons for gray water...that combined weighs as much as Little Red. It does look well made but it's like having an elephant for a pet. Not too practical. Thanks for showing what's going on in the industry and another fine review.
I love your analogy about having an elephant for a pet! So good 😊 i’m actually up on a ridge right now looking for a campsite and to get cell coverage for this video. I just called my wife and said I did something stupid, I should be fine, but here’s my location. In my defense, I did walk the trail for about an hour up here before driving it. But man it sure looks different now that I’m in the vehicle. 😂
Agree 1000% with your Cons!! Holy Cow, $75K??? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
😂 I like the triple head smack.
Thanks Drew! A very interesting trailer and many things to like but I totally agree with your small niche assessment! 👍🏻
Thank you! Brad, our coffee just showed up today in the mail. We’ve never purchased coffee online before. We thought it would be fun to get a couple of bags of espresso beans from the most popular roasters to see how they compare to the local coffee we drink. As usual we’re thankful one of the bags was on Brad. Are you getting a lot of time to take out your new camper?
@@PlayingwithSticks You are very welcome! I would be very interested to know how the coffee beans compare! Sounds like you guys are going to have some delicious coffee! I have been out some with the new trailer and am still busy putting the finishing touches on it but couldn't be happier with it! I will send you some more updated photos! Hope you had a wonderful July 4th!
I wish you could attach photos in these comments. I found the most beautiful camping spot. I came out here today to find a camping spot for some relatives that will be joining us. Looking forward to seeing more of those photos of yours.
Australian off road campers would eat this design. Check them out and you will see what a real off road trailer should be.
Fantastic design and they loaded it up with a lot of brands that people would have later accessorized with. Nice to just start with some of the best.
Thans for the review Drew. It’s always great to see alternative installations to address challenges and problems. I love the molly racks and may try to incorporate some into my F150 mods. My Hiker trailer is just about mod’ed out. The new sapele mohognany side table and drawer is adding more weight than I expected but its fit, form, and function will be sweet. Practical? No, but I enjoy trying new setups.
Your modded out Hiker sounds so fun! You may come to find like us, that weight isn’t as strong of a factor as we thought it was. I had such difficult experiences when towing heavier Teardrops I used to blame it on weight. But since the last couple of years, I have towed a lot of heavy teardrop trailers and had a good experience. I am realizing it was the aerodynamic issues that was really hindering my towing. I am interested to hear an update from you if the weight had any impact.
This seems like it would be a great add on if you're doing the overland in a full sized pickup or Quigley van. The creature comforts of a decent RV, without having to drive or drag it into town to do the laundry. Btw, military grade. Those panels are sweet, but the military contracts the cheapest bids
What a fun trailer! I get it. Great job Lance!
Hi, Drew! 😊 Nice to see you again. 😊
Wow, you are fast! So good to see you as well. I had to get up on a small mountain to get signal today.
@@PlayingwithSticks I was just sitting in my girlfriend's kitchen and the notification came in. I started watching 12 minutes after it posted
I think this is a fair and accurate assessment. I know some hunters that would like this rig, which could also be used for family vacations. I do like the use of materials and construction and many of the exterior features. I love that the Rep was honest about the off-grid AC run time. There really are a lot of awesome things about this trailer, and he covered them well. But let's be honest, a swing away rear spare is not ideal. It's normally dirty and generally in the way while camping. I do like the solar/power system and many of the interior features, although some of the Molle use looks gimmicky and impractical. It's obviously going to be in the way for loading a cubby and will not prevent items from falling out while off-roading. A big unmentioned Con is the ridiculous galley height. I think the stove and countertop would be a real hazard around kids. Due to the size and weight I would not qualify it as a serious "off-road" trailer. It is restricted to wide open spaces... paired with a matching tow vehicle the combined tuning radius would be a very limiting factor as well. Can you imagine coming to a washout, or snow drift... and having to execute a 3-point turn? I don't see the point of having advanced suspension, excessive ground clearance, and the off-road hitch on this size of trailer, unless it's targeted at posers. Someday I may need to dial down our primitive area travels and buy a fully self-contained RV. But, I'll be looking for a more practical design based on honest expectations of its use.
Looks like a great trailer for sure. Towable by a mid-size pickup. I can't imagine these will actually sell at that msrp but who knows. Good to see mass mfg's branching out - good for the market!
this is so awesome for some real off-roading, most campers even that are "off-road" wont be able to do what this probably can. looking for something small like this, but not really what i need, but very cool!
Really dig it! You're right though. It's a little too heavy. It would be overweight for a Bronco when loaded also.
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Thank you so much!
I think this camper is targeted at two types of people. The first is serious overlanding folks who want to be able to take a trailer into a remote area and use it as a basecamp for off-roading. They don’t need a toy hauler trailer because the tow vehicle IS the toy too. Toyota Tacoma, Jeep Gladiator, and half-ton pickups can all tow this trailer. Take this in on a forest service road, set up camp, and hit the trails. The other group are full-timers who want to stay off-grid. The size, the comfort, the customizability, the power system, the water capacity, all speaks to me of something that someone might live in if they want to spend a decent portion of their time out in BLM land or similar. It’s definitely a niche product, but that niche definitely exists and this will compete with something like Black Series trailers but be a more off-the-lot option with many more dealers stocking them since Lance is such a big brand.
Thank you so much! John, I love it when people see what I can’t see. I was just scratching my head about who this trailer was for. Thank you for helping us fill in the gaps.
This is a nice layout. After running a couple of overlanding trailers I see at least two issues with the trailer. One is the height of the trailer. It is really tall. High center of gravity is something that we avoid as much as possible while off-roading and overlanding. This thing looks very tippy. If you go tall, you need to go wide to maintain balance. Very dangerous on off-camber trails. Second issue is the placement of the bike racks. The bikes are going to take damage from road debris. It would be better to mount them on the rear receiver. Also electric bikes are very heavy, which will add a lot of tongue weight onto the towing vehicle’s hitch and also affect the payload. Next is the price. I know that off road trailers are getting more expensive each year (we spent about $40k on a loaded Mission Overland rig in 2021). Now that trailer is $50k+. When I compare the build quality and features between our rig and this Lance, I just cannot under any circumstance justify spending $70k+ on this. The weight is also a major issue. Our trailer is under 2500lbs loaded and wet. I believe this trailer, although a nice design, is actually very limited in its foreseen capability. Great for flat roads and campgrounds.
I agree this design has some serious flaws for off-roading. In addition to the height, the frame and tongue extension do not look robust enough for anything beyond smooth dirt roads. I would bet money some of the tongues break in a few years. Compare against some real off-roaders and this chassis looks pretty weak. Curt suspension is low brow for this price point and the lock n roll is junk. Not much power for that price either. Bikes on the front are actually a much better idea than in back. Sway on the back can damage racks and is way more of a problem for sway than extra weight on the tongue. Protecting them from debris is easy with covers or an add on screen. See the Boreas EOS for this kind of trailer done right. More expensive, but not that much more, and way better built with much higher quality components. This looks more like a $50K trailer in comparison.
WOW! Great first entry into the adventure trailer marketplace! Bravo Lance! but 70k+??!! Ouch 😳
365 degrees of light around you when you are out in the middle of nowhere? LOL
Bought a barely used 2018 InTech Pursue Flyer several years ago for $10K from original local owner. Weighs under 1600 lbs. and stores in our garage. EZ pull for 22 TRD OR manual Tacoma. Has rooftop AC/Heat, 10 sp Max Fan, TV/Stereo, side pull-out kitchen, outdoor shower. Added IronMan tent room that attaches over rear trailer double doors and solar power. Used as a base camp for wife & myself & back-up shelter during hurricane season. Live in Tampa, FL area. "Keeping It Simple Stupid" for economical & comfortable camping. Happy Wife, Happy Life!
This looks like a great trailer, and Drew is right about it in many ways but it seems to me to be targeted to well off Raptor owners who live within driving distance of places near Moab. The fact that you really need a $60k plus truck to pull this makes it kind of limits for those of us with lesser vehicles. Still and all, I applaud Lance for stepping up.
When somebody told me Lance did this I kind of laughed. Meaning, I thought it was going to be junk. But then I did a deep dive into Lance. I knew they were a good company, but they were better than I thought. I found out that during Covid. They were the only large RV manufacturer that actually decreased production. Meaning, they were unwilling to put out inferior products at a faster rate during all the supply chain issues and high Trailer demand. That caught my attention.
I always appreciate the tight focus of your reviews. While there are several cons to this one, I look at it as another example of a manufacturer making a solid effort, price notwithstanding, to fillo that kinda narrow (to my understanding anyway) overland niche. I would think that if you were a 'serious' over-lander, you would have a 3/4 ton 4x4 truck or equivalent as your tow vehicle. That means a lot of gear can ride in the bed or the rear. That is certainly where the inflatable kayaks and SUPS would ride... Looking forward to your next review.
This would be perfect for my son and I going hunting/camping with my F250. We'd leave the trailer at camp while we go hunting during the day. I can see how it wouldn't be ideal for many folks.
I didn’t even think about the hunting crowd when I first edited this video. Makes a lot of sense
can you do a video on your top 3 favorite trailers of all time? i’ve watched all your videos and am so thankful for your reviews. i’d love to know if you were buying one what are the top 3 you would recommend looking at.
The guy can predict weather... the rain did come lol....all the sweet looking B-roll shots were wet....nice. Trying to compete with Black Series trailers maybe?
Black series, good thought. I bet you’re right there.
Out of curiosity, how much did your truck camper weigh?
@@PlayingwithSticks It's just over 1000lbs out of the box...I took the jacks off which shaves off about 125lbs so somewhere around 900lbs. The Taco still feels nimble and whips around town with ease with the Kimbo.on board. 85 consecutive days and nights in it so far...and counting
Wow, that's a big change for Lance. Seems well built for this company. Looks as though it will hold up and last longer than other trailers they've made. It's too expensive, too tall, too heavy and too long for me. A smaller/lighter version should be offered too. Do we really need that tongue box, exterior storage and height? Shorter trailers, both in height and length, are better for non paved and rougher dirt and trail roads. Roughing it in the outdoors requires making do with less as part of the appeal. The ability to bring that much Extra Stuff because all the storage is not really experiencing the outdoors. More like bringing the indoor comforts of home to the outdoors. I do love the build materials and the suspension though. For 75k, the roof should be completely covered with solar panels and the 2nd battery included as part of that hefty price. Hopefully they build a smaller, less tall and less long version for a overall lighter and easier towable experience. Thanks Drew. We all know you'll give us the practical breakdown and PRICE!! Most all of the trailer segments I see NEVER give even a price range for some shady and slick car salesman reason.
I really appreciate the breakdown you did here. Like you said, I picture a similar version, but much more paired down may be a better fit for most people. I don’t know, maybe they were trying to break the mold and set themselves apart from what everyone else was doing? Glad you were enjoying the videos. I really appreciate the kind words.
Well, before I even watch the full video... it's a Lance. So yes, it is going to be very well built and very nice. But you know what I'm going to say next....better get your checkbook out!
Fair enough! I have a feeling you’re going to be right.
Something I’d like to see (that I have never seen) in an RV is lots of small coat hooks around the tops of the walls of the shower space. If I’m out in the rain, I want someplace to hang all my wet clothes overnight or while I’m driving to the next location. The shower space is that obvious location.
OK Drew, I know you hate when i do this but... This camper trailer, pulled by a shortbed crewcab, carrying... A Radica MoonLander. 2-3 kids sleep in the moonlander while the parents sleep in trailer, with a tarp running from the top of the trailer to the top of the crew cab providing a covered area for travel between the two, as well as a seating area between them
Almost ideal. Indoor toilet/ shower is a must for us. Can you recommend other small trailers with an indoor (hardshell) bathroom?
I would be interested in seeing this model but a commuter style for regular travelers.
I think the best way to look at this is a hybread between an offroad Polydrop (teardrop) camper and an offroad travel trailer (caravan.) I think they were going for a european/austrailian "Euro market" feel with it, esepcially given the name Enduro. OMG... I just found the survival pod of campers... LOL. The year is 2023 and the earth has become a wasteland (or parts of it has). Heat, dust storms, rain, rage across the plains fueling fires. In this wasteland you've found yourself struggling to boondock. (cut screen to camper) BRS Offroad's Pursuit. The thing looks like it was made to operate on mars LOL.
72k Lol. They're out to lunch and that's the polite way of saying it.
I think a lot of people feel this way. But at the same time this is coming from a company that has a lot of money for research and design. I would be really surprised if they built a trailer for nobody. I guess time will tell.
Good review 👍 OMG, even if I had money burning a hole in my pocket, 75k US. So when that gets up to Canada $$$$$$😡. I would be surprised if it is 15 to get it out the factory door. Keep up the great vids. Cheers
I never even thought about the pricing differences between the States and Canada. Hi naïvely assumed that they would be the same, minus the currency conversion. I’m learning things every day. Great to see you Patrick!
Looks like a C channel frame? Interesting choice.
FYI the new wranglers have a 5k tow composite so does every Toyota 4x4 truck and even the Subaru ascent. So weight isn’t a problem it’s the cost
I'm glad they *_actually_* made it as opposed to *_virtually_* making it. Subtle but huge difference.
Good point. I guess I wasn’t referring to them building it or not building it. I was referring to the fact that like most people, I thought it would be all hype. Almost every camper from the large RV industry that claims itself to be off-road worthy, is far from it. By actually, I meant it not only looks good on paper, it checked out in real life.
@@PlayingwithSticks, it's a well thought out design and they don't seem to have skimped on materials or structural integrity. Thanks for explaining - I was good-naturedly busting your chops a little and apologize. In truth, those that use that word all of the time is a pet peeve of mine, as is ending every sentence in a preposition with the pitch of the person's voice rising at the end, as though they're asking you a question when they're making a statement.
Very cool trailer Drew but like you said the height, weight really out this in a class of its own and out of reach for many looking for the small towing vehicle type campers. The price is crazy but you can tell the quality is there and so as is always the case, you get what you pay for.
I'm impressed with the 365 degrees of lighting 😂
I actually heard there’s another company coming out with 370° next year! So that’s something we can all look forward to
365 degrees of light?? Wow, that’s something.
Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that.
With something like 3 million pickups sold (from 1/2 to 1 ton) my guess is that there will be a market for this. I personally daily drive a 3/4 ton pickup and this wouldn't be an issue towing this. The price is a different story but it is Lance and I wouldn't expect anything different. Implying that everybody can only drive and only own small vehicles is the reason why things never change because we can't believe that somebody else may have different needs. At the same time I'm not saying that the market will be huge but 1% of 3 million is 30,000 different parties. I think there is at least a few people out there that will want this.
This is kinda cool. Thanks for posting this. IMO the weight and size feels like it gets away from the tear drop vibe. I almost feel for that price you may be better off going with a Winnebago Micro Mini FLX, slightly heavier but all the off grid stuff.
It’s tough, because there really isn’t a competitor, offering a trailer that will stand up to the conditions. There’s a lot of crossover from the large RV industry into the off-road market, but Lance is the only one I’ve seen that doesn’t look like it’s going to fall apart in two years. Typically, I say for years, but going off road, will break them down much quicker. I’m right with you, I think most people will find alternatives to suit their needs better.
I was surprised at the cost. Especially since you’d need to plunk down more for molle pouches, bags, etc. For that kind of money you can buy an Oliver Legacy Elite trailer, which is arguably the highest quality fiberglass trailer made. While not an off-road trailer, the Oliver will last decades, and barely depreciates compared to most trailers.
Having toured the Oliver factory, your comment is spot on.
@@MrWinger1951 That’s why I bought one this spring! It’ll last the rest of my life.
On here. Awesome trailer pretty close to perfect but of course we’d all love it to be a third Price.
Agreed! Good seeing you on here Tristen.
There are a lot of things hanging under the trailer exactly where you don't want them off road that will break. the bike rack is very nice and the tongue design looks like it allows for very sharp turns. Gopower electronics is very sub par. The truma combi is a very nice little unit. So glad they went without a black tank. The rack on top is very cool but it's so tall I'm not sure how practical putting kayaks would be using his example. The net in the kitchen is thoughtful for bugs. The molly racks everywhere is a nice touch. The 12v AC is great. you don't have to be plugged into shore power to use it but the reality is that you'll at least need a generator. They said it'll run 3-4 hours on the 2 batteries...yeah if you don't use power for anything else. It will tow as tall as it looks and storage will be a concern. Overall a bit of a mixed bag. strong pros strong cons but it will surely be perfect for someone :)
Drew, really enjoy your channel. How come you no longer do content camping with your family? I loved those.
Great question. The family content will be back soon. Not a lot of people know this, but we’ve been homeless for over two years now. That is by choice though. It’s been a pretty wild transition the last couple years. A little over two years ago we moved to Thailand full-time. It’s been a blast, but hard to balance KZhead and our new life overseas. During the summer months we spend the entire time camping as a family. I have made videos within the small camper community. But as for our family camping, I’ve tried to keep that as KZhead free as possible. Essentially just to keep a healthy life balance during these periods of rest. We just moved to a new schedule that will start this year where we will be six months in Thailand, and six months in the States. We finally have a place to call home again, we’re getting our feet back on the ground and we are missing those moments of filming our KZhead adventures. So we’ve already started this summer shooting little bits and pieces here and there. I’m excited to get that kind of content back on the channel again.
@playingwithsticks Drew, any chance that you will be reviewing the Little Guy Micro Max tear drop trailer (or if you have any thoughts impressions on it)? A garage-able teardrop trailer that you can stand up inside, at least us shorter folks - 5'7" and under, sounds like a very interesting combo. My wife and I really value your opinions as we seek out our best option to move up from tent camping to a small travel trailer that we can tow with our Ford Escape.
I’ve never even heard of this. I know what I’ll be doing this evening. Thanks for the heads up.
@@PlayingwithSticks Fantastic. We look forward to your opinion.
There's a good bit of SUV's out there that can tow this (mostly European). My wife and I are looking for a trailer to live in full time and my VW Touareg has a 7,700lb towing capacity. For the price and smaller size, it would be hard to justify this trailer for full time living. If I could afford $70k for a toy, this thing would be right up my alley.
Drew we are on the same wave length my friend. I saw one of these units in person about a year ago. First impression is wt....why is it 0:00 so tall and skinny. Top heavy comes to mind. Maybe they are going after the red neck hunter slash basketball player types? Its also near 21 feet long. Whats up with the geriatric entry door hand rail? You know how old i am to be saying that. I could see this rig heading out at 4,500 pounds especially if you put two ebikes on front tounge with firewood and hang more off hitche rack. All my snarky comments aside it is a decent build for Lance. 77k though lots to choose from at this weight that price point that have more room and less drag while towing.
I actually wanted to say 4500 in the video, but I thought I would catch flack for it. But like you, I think that could easily be a reality for many of us. Even myself today I’m trying to load everything up on this tongue. I’m currently trying to figure out how to put an E bike on it without putting a rack on 😂 it’s funny how I can watch a video like this 15 times while editing it, and not even notice the rail. Great seeing you on here Bart!
I like it. You can purchase from me Don Malcolm at Blue Compass RV in Prescott Arizona. I hope you enjoy my walk around!
Don you did a great job! As you can tell by the views on this video. Thank you so much!
Great video. Can you setup a rooftop tent? Can you do a series of best 5 overland campers on a specific price range? Say best 5 overland trailer under $30K, $60K, $100K and $150K
This is for regular camper people who want to look like off-road camper people. Basically people who buy decked out off-road trucks for their daily commuter. This would not fit through thickly wooded areas or narrow trails. You are not getting very far off grid with this except maybe wide open spaces. The cost of an AC for only 3-4 hours of use is impractical.
I think about this AC thing a lot. When I’m in a small, well, insulated trailer, like the Bean. I think to myself, how much AC would I actually need. Meaning, if I was in somewhere like Florida, where it was needed. I often wonder would it work to just turn it on 20 minutes at a time to drop that temp. And then after that, how long would it relatively hold that temp? Because really this is what we do in the winter with heaters. One of these days I will have to put it to the test. We travel most of the time in 90 to 100° temperatures, but the nights get so nice and cool up here in the mountains. We’ve never even thought about the need for something like this. But the longer we have the channel, the more we realize people want an AC solution for off grid living.
@@PlayingwithSticks In South Florida, temps don’t drop below 80 during the summer and humidity is 80% or higher at night. Running the AC for an hour or two will guarantee condensation and mold. It won’t keep it cool enough, long enough to matter in an off grid situation. It might be more viable in dry climates where nighttime temps drop. But if you use up your battery stores late in the day it will take much of the following day to recharge…assuming full sun. We need lower power consumption units and more efficient solar solutions to make AC a truly viable system in off grid camping in hot & humid locales.
At over $60k, these prices are absolutely insane!!
Say hi to May and the kids for me please. 😁
I will tell them when I see them. I’m out on my own scoping out a campsite for the family and some relatives we have coming in.
@@PlayingwithSticks Excellent 🤩
Lance doesnt do small and they dont do light, so this transition to the offroad crowd, while limiting to most, makes sense for Lance. Although most would prefer something much smaller and lighter, I think its a fantastic first step into the market. Dial down all the dimensions and it’ll be a real contender.
Very nice, it seems if the "RV Industry" makes an equivalent of a high-end DIY unit (quality first), you will pay dearly for it.
365 degrees of external lighting? So it goes more than all the way around the camper?
Wow 😮
the more the sales man was talking the more the money started to add up. $70k for something that size is insane.
nice unit but your cons are big cons. i'm enamoured with foamies after you did your recent video of one. can't see any small camper now without comparing it to a foamie. God bless Drew and thanks for posting.
Let’s do the math on that foamie. With the high-end doors and roof vent, you could build 60 foamy or for the price of this one trailer. Or 90 of them if you find a door and fan alternative. 😆
@@PlayingwithSticks you sir are a mathamagician! lol
I think you nailed. I’m a Jeep owner and have been researching for two years for something that I can live off-road for several days while hunting or fishing. This is not it. As great as the concept is the weigh and height is no bueno.
Rambo trailer for the build people
This is perfect for towing with a midsize truck like a Colorado - especially the diesel. I think Tacoma's could also tow it.
Fyi, the new Wrangler can be optioned to 5000 lbs towing now
Thank you for sharing this. I appreciate the update.
The mark this trailer misses in cost. It is 2x what it should be.
7:33 365 degrees?! Enough for a complete circle - and a little bit extra
They truly are amazing lights! 😆
The Molle Panels is the best. Lance?! What happend to you? A quality trailer with quality components? Certainly too heavy, tall, and expensive for most of the offroading that I do but an interesting contribution to the community.
😂 Yes Lance. I felt I needed to give them a nod for a good job. So many people in the large RV industry have tried to cross over and have failed miserably. I think Lance didn’t fail, but like I said, definitely some head scratches. I originally looked into this camper because it was our most requested camper from viewers. I couldn’t understand why they wanted me to check it out. I think folks wanted to know, is it actually good? Components, yes, build quality. Yes, functionality… some parts of it make sense. I see you have a question mark on quality and components. Unless you’re seeing something that I’m not, this camper shares, not just similar, but the same components as many of the high-end overlanding Trailers. And as for the build quality, we’re talking steel chassis, aluminum and composite materials. At least from the outside it looks like they didn’t cut any corners. Like I mentioned, they probably needed to cut some corners here and there because that’s why the trailer turned out the way it did. Regardless if this trailer says Lance on the side or some new hipster mom and Pa trailer manufacture name, I approach this as unbiased as I could. As you know, I am not a big fan of the large RV industry, so it was hard going in without any biases. And I agree with you those Molle panels are pretty neat. I’ve been playing around with them a lot the last year. It’s really fun changing them out and making them fit whatever adventure you’re going on.
@@PlayingwithSticks Great take Drew. My questionmark on the quality trailer and components is that I couldn't believe that they actually did both with this trailer! ha ha. Yes, good kit. Like you, I'm not sure what the demographic is for this trailer but it is refreshing to see something that isn't trashy come from a big RV company.
Nice stuff integrated in this trailer! But height, price and weight limits it a lot. Very interesting to know on why you decided to include it in your channel compa. That closure though! 😂
Good question. It actually has been the most requested review we had on the channel. After getting so many emails about it I thought I probably should check it out. And like I said in the video I was impressed with the craftsmanship. I felt like that alone, was worthy of it making it on the channel. Plus I get a lot of flack for not covering trailers with bathrooms. So I thought it was kind of a two birds with one stone here.
@@PlayingwithSticks nice, maybe a new “mid size section” it’s coming alive amigo!. Like the smallest NoBo “beast mode suspension”. I’d like to request to your community a bunch emails requesting Drews crew to get an eye on the Campinawe, let’s make it possible you beautiful people, lets go!! 😅
This could substitute for a yurt or small cabin to be on privately owned property. But what is the target market?
We thought the same thing when we were homeless for a bit. Once we realized the price of a yurt, the price of a small cabin. We started considering campers. I think a camper with a wood shelter over top of it would make a great little home.
Quite using the term military grade Molle. There is a rigorous process for something to be considered military grade. You can call it a molle panel all you want but I bet the specs are off too. The military was not involved making this and none of the contracted manufacturers were. Call it what it is, generic molle panels
This could easily be towed by any midsize pickup, Grand Cherokee, or Nissan Pathfinder. All of which have at least 6k lb towing capacity and 600+ lb tongue weight capacities depending on which one you choose. Now the guy also said the camper wasn’t designed for rock crawling so if you own a wrangler you’d want something far lighter and more manageable for hardcore off-roading.
Good point. Maybe the wrangler was a bad example.
@@PlayingwithSticks No worries. Good thorough review and points to consider though. That front boxed storage area could get really heavy depending on what is stored there. And the the price. Yikes. Lance has always been more expensive but they do seem to use higher end materials and have better quality. This seems to compete with the Black Series which are also expensive.
They nailed it luxure expedition! Tow vehicle + trailer = This is not the poor man's world anymore 🤔
The price alone is just hilarious, if I do ever see one of these out there I'll know I'm in the presence of a sucker.
No WAY !!! 77K ...... I have a 4X4 van that will tow this, but not for 77K
OMG, $75000? WoW, that’s a great looking trailer but my Taco won’t be pulling it
Whoa! I did a double take on the price. That is definitely a very narrow niche. If I see anyone that bought one I hope I can talk to them. My last rv cost 50k brand new class c Winnebago in 2017.
The big problem is definitely the weight. Dry it maxes my towing weight. Lots of off roaders don’t use 1/2 tonne trucks.
Holy molly! For that price I could buy an Airstream Base Camp and have my kitchen inside! I know what I would pick.
Its been a busy week, but finally got to watch the video tonight!! That 12V AC is pretty cool. Gotta agree with your likes and dislikes. Love it, but the over all height wouldnt work for me. Stick with my Intech Flyer Explore for now :)
Like you said, it looks like they took a whole bunch of the best features of other campers but I reckon that's this camper's biggest problem - the individual aspects don't add up to a cohesive whole that feels well thought-through. I wish them all the best but I don't know that there is a niche for a heavy (and probably a bit top-heavy) 3m high off-road capable camper with an outside kitchen but no covered outside living area, probably because an awning would be mounted impractically high. Now that I think of it, how are people of average height supposed to reach the kitchen shelves? Something unexpected that I learnt from this video: The sound of rain on metal irritates me and it would drive me crazy if I couldn't escape it 😁
I picked up on that sound too in the edit. Some like rain on a tin roof, like you, I found I do not. Yes, just because you put together a bunch of top end components doesn’t magically make a great trailer does it? But I feel like they’re heading in the right direction. It was neat to see a company from the large RV industry actually put some effort to make the build quality better.
It would work for me with a mid-size pickup and storing the camper in the backyard under a tarp or a tall carport. I stick to more developed camp sites. The price is just ludicrous. Maybe a lower priced stripped down version I could kit myself, but there's better options in my about 1/4 of the budget.
Going after the same customer base as the Black series trailers
I dont agree with what you said about pulling but I do agree on the price. The weight puts it perfectly in line with the thousands of mid-size SUVs like the Ford Explorer or Jeep Grand Cherokee. BUT, if you are going to spend $80,000, then why not just buy an airstream.
Good point. Most of us try to stay within the 80/20 rule. Mainly for safety, but also for wear and tear. We often caution people that just because something is within your towing capacity, doesn’t mean it’s the right fit. I think with the jeep you’re right, it would be easily within a comfortable range. But the Ford Explorer once you throw in the wood, the 40 gallons of water, the bikes you would be pushing it on the lower models of the explore. But if you use the top model at a 5600 towing capacity you would be right at the 80% mark. Which again like you said, you are right on about these two vehicles. Thanks for bringing this up.
When towing 20 foot long and 10 feet tall "off road" trailers with articulating hitch with short wheelbase mid size suv's especially in mountainous areas one needs to consider sway. Sure the suv' s mentioned are on paper okay to tow the Lance tow capacity wise. But with out a sway bar (not a good idea with articulating hitch) this ten foot tall trailer his going to sway and gas mileage is going to plummet trust me. I have a new lexus gx 460 with 6,500 pound towing capacity. I pull my Trail Marker off road trailer which is 3,800 pounds loaded to max and 9 feet tall with lexus and would not feel comfortable pulling the Lance at 10 feet tall , 20 feet long and 4,500 pounds. I did end up setting up to hitch systems. One for freeway ( curt sway bar) and one for off road ( ARK Articulating hitch).
hey drew.. It me. To me this has the feeling of a 3 season camper, which kind of shocks me, little things like, only having a bug net between galley and front, to me i'd want at min a canvas cover as well, allowing you to close it off if you are running the AC or heat... and at best, a 3 layer canvas, insulation, canvas with zipper seal flaps. Next, the galley door needs to be set up with increased loading capacity OR have the ability to slope... i'd be really worried about snow loading and water runoff. that said, the ability to attach a fly net at canvas tent around that door is missed. this is something they should have designed from the start, and worked with a manufacturer or 2 to come up with a design that could be sold with or as and add on. being able to "enclose" the cooking area from both bugs, rain, and snow.. "Who is this camper for." My first call on that, hunters. This kind of camper, with the modular racks, huge seal-able storage upfront, etc. It fits hunters. You can drive your truck in to the hunting area, detach and set up the camper, then continue on up trails or such with the truck. Leaves the truck bed free to load the kill, and bring it back to the camper for processing and then storage in the steel box. that steal box is gonna likely be bear proof. Next, truck bed camper. Ok picture combining this trailer, with one of the small lightweight truck bed campers. A small bear bones bed camper, with 2 beds little Little tv, and such... you put the kids in there, 2-3 kids can sleep in there, while the adults sleep in the trailer with the trailer then being set up as the kitchen and and such. That big storage box again, likely could fit a break down wheel chair, as well as hitch mounted universal wheelchair mounts. no cabinines and the ability to mount items low... makes this a likely option for disabled users. Who its for is for the creative users who can see beyond the norms. Like you, Drew.
Hi love the idea of truck camper with trailer. I have often thought van with trailer, but I like the truck camper even better. And I was going to jump in that front box for people to see how big it was, I wish I remembered it. You were absolutely right a wheelchair could fit in there, literally all your big game could fit in there once you field dress it. That thing is HUGE! And hunters again you nailed it with that one. That didn’t even cross my mind when I was making this. I thought the same thing about the bug fly. But then I just assumed they probably had something for the colder seasons to replace it. I’ll have to look into that. As usual your post is so spot on.
@@PlayingwithSticks the 2 groups that really like and need "modular systems" Hunter/military because gear can be in so many different sizes and shapes that it won't fit in a "box". and Disable because they may need things lowered or raise. Lets also note this trailer is AC optional and no heater. Also when buttoned down you have access to the sink and fridge but not the burners. This means you WILL need a portable camp stove for cooking, AND a heater. a 2-In-1 Portable Butane Heater & Stove might be an option, if its not to cold. Buddy heater if you are doing late season camping, or a full vin Diesel heater for all winter. I think the real thing here is in the naming though. ENDURO. It tells to me they were looking for something that would "fool" buyers into associating with the Euro/Australian Caravan market.
@@PlayingwithSticks You can get very stripped down truck bed campers, that are nothing more then... well, 2 single beds and a queen. sleep 4 kids there, 2 adults in the trailer. but even if you are just using a hard top cover with 2 beds in there for the kids.... you have the kids sleeping in 1 vheicle safe, and you in the trailer, privacy.
RIDICULOUS!
$70,000. One can pickup a 20 foot Airstream in this neighborhood. Insane-A few wealthy off-road guys may buy-no market exists for the general public. Lance will experience the Ram/Ford truck disaster. Not a market for $70,000 + 1500 trucks.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I was interested to see what people thought about not only the price, but some of the other features as well. But, like you mentioned, price is also very important.
That LOOKS nice, but way too heavy unless you're running a truck, and if you were that's probably not the first thing you're looking at.
Nice camper, but not 70k nice. I’d rather buy from a smaller camper builder if I was going to be spending that much. I’d say it’s worth 40-45k, and it’d be a major seller at that price imo. Edit: 2024 wrangler can tow up to 5k with the free float rear axle. Also, if I had a truck that could pull this, I’d buy a truck camper so you’re spot on.
I appreciate you adding that 2024 update. That’s really good to know. And I’m with you, I think you priced it perfectly. Many people would say even that’s too high, but you understand the industry well. I would say that’s very competitive for what it is.
When you are out boon-docking where are you going to dump your cassette toilet?
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