I built a mouse from scratch with 3D printing and Arduino
2024 ж. 29 Ақп.
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I designed and built this mouse to perfectly fit my hand using photogrammetry, 3D printing and Arduino.
This video was sponsored by PCBWay. They offer rapid prototyping and production services for PCB production, 3D printing, CNC machining and more.
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Parts list, code, 3D files and PCB schematics:
github.com/BenMakesEverything...
Most of the code was based on this:
github.com/dkao/Kensington_Ex...
I love the attention to repairability in this design.. nice work !!
what does this help if the mouse is shit LOL
@@MrMakingwavesmedia it's open source, just fix whatever is shit yourself. that's the thing, its easy to repair and you can modify it to your liking to make it the best possible mouse for you
HAHA
7:55 "oh my pkcell"
Dankpods moment
Two people beat me to it. Well played.
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i didn't notice, wow
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Btw if you use a subdivision based workflow in blender, you can export the unsubdivided base mesh as a quad obj. You can import this into fusion 360, convert to t-spline in the form mode. When you close the form mode, you are left with a shape very close to the original subdivided model. I mention it as I find SubD modelling in Blender so much faster and easier than messing around with organic shapes in Fusion.
That's cool, I did not know that. Thanks for the tip!
dude thats excellent workflow thanks
Nice. I can never seem to find the right mouse and have thought about making my own. Thanks for sharing your process!
Ayo, the soundclown man!
same problem here..
If you plan on doing a custom mouse, I'd look into modding the logitech g305. It's way more intuitive and it has a ton of community support for shell swap mods. r/mousereview might be a good place to start.
Same! They're always too small for me, and gaming mice are just ridiculously tiny and feel like the thinnest cheapest plastic crap (I guess lots of people want a super light mouse but I find it unpleasant). I might just use the internals from an MX Master or something for the BT stuff but this is a big inspiration
Super cool! Love the photogrammetry to get a perfect fit for your hand. Your end shape actually reminds me exactly of the Mionix Naos, which is the most comfortable mouse I've ever owned. Great project!
Thanks for taking us along for the journey! Love the project!
Photogrammetry often uses the background to figure out what angle you're taking the picture from, so putting it on a turntable without extreme measures to 100% remove all background is exactly the wrong approach.
ty for thissss I've been working on my own from scratch and it's been difficult to plan this from the ground up, from sensors, ICs, and wrapping it up into a PCB design. It's been hard to find others documenting the journey, especially at the level I'm trying to do it.
Really nice take on custom mouse project, kudos to you
OH MY PKCELL!!!!!!!!!!
...you beat me to it. Well played.
Dankpods
Yes the dankpods official
r/suddenlyDankPods
them keyboard switches sound mighty good, I might need to brake out my hurdur 6hunjos from me ole mate seni.
love your videos. you make it seem/sound so easy, like, "oh, I just did that." it's very inspiring
Great project involving many different disciplines, well done !
I picked up a Logi G305 Lightspeed a few years back and was surprised at how modular and repairable it was. After a few years when a click (left, I think?) inevitably died, I just... opened it up and desoldered out the switch to swap for one from a random other junk mouse I had. Never really thought it'd work but it's been great, and I've been curious about 3D printing a custom shell to put its guts into for even better modularity, but now I'm curious about just making one from scratch! What a great video!
The G305 is great for customizability! I've actually followed the same clay technique for printing a g305 battery cover molded to my hand.
double index & middle buttons is something i now want on every mouse
Really cool! I've always wanted to try making a DIY mouse but wasn't sure where to get the optical sensor, definitely going to keep this in mind!
I mean in a pinch you could use the PCB and sensor from an existing mouse, with a new case and new buttons and reuse/relocate/replace the scrollwheel?
@@RoamingAdhocratthe mouse buttons and scroll wheel encoder should all be through hole components, desolder the fuckers. You might run into trouble because the new ones require more or less debounce but apart from that it SHOULD work. Try it on an old mouse first please.
This is incredibly impressive, awesome job!
Hell yeah, I love it! Wanted to atempt it myself but didn't know whete to start from
Not easy picking up PCB design. Great stuff Ben!
I would definitely buy one of these (I have no idea about programming/assembling it), but it looks so nice and I really love the idea of keyboard switches on a mouse. Great job.🎉
I love this. Keep making videos. They are greatly appreciated
This is my first time watching your channel and I loved this video -- great job! Subscribed
Awesome build, really well done!
Dude, amazing work.
i love it! i have always wondered about a mice with keyboard switches finally someone made it!
"I decided that its time to quit putting off the inevitable and finally LEARN PCB DESIGN!" , "Finally decided to learn Python", "Ok its time to learn..." its like a pattern in every video,... Love how you like to challenge yourself and keep learning. applause
a god among men.
Very nice! Thank you for sharing!
awesome stuff, been looking to do something like this for a while seeing at how big custom keyboards are and how nobody is really making custom mice as far as i know
Liked & subscribed. Great stuff all around in this video.
Incredible design
Lovely design. I hope to see a more polished V2 some day
This is awesome. I've been using a Steelseries Rival 500 for idk how long now and its not manufactured anymore. i had to fix it countless times. swap out switches, replacing the cable, glueing broken pieces back together etc since no other mouse does it for me like this one does. it fits perfectly in my hand and has exactly as many buttons as i need. But i never thought about making my own mouse which would fix my issues. im gonna try to do this :D
Very well done, thanks for sharing with us
I LOOOOOVE that scroll wheel on the side. The size, placement and able to use it while still using mouth mouse buttons. I would kill for some low profile mx switches as my mouse buttons.
Using those optical/hall sensor switches would've been insane also, so you could program them as axis buttons too for driving games throttle/braking etc!
Very cool and inspirational!
Nice project! love it
Really cool build Ben! I always appreciate it when people include the bumps on the road along the way to victory :). Reminds me that we are all human and it's normal to fail some times. That being said I'd say the result compared to the original idea is bang on. Even the build quality and easthetic's are nice. Don't ask me why but I'm addicted to the thumb button cluster on the razer naga hex v1. I've been keeping it alive for almost 10 years. I'm on my 3rd set of buttons 😂. When it eventually dies I'll most likely build something very simmilar to you. Something i haven't seen yet is a smooth finnish on a 3d printed mouse. I haven't tried it yet but if you print in ABS with a small layer height and smooth it with acetone I'm pretty sure you can achieve something very smooth and comfortable. Thanks for reading my essay. Cheers!
It's amazing. I now have a thing that I can do and reference you when I have time and money to afford it. Great project to do on vacation.
Good job! My first thought was that instead of a rotary encoder, you could use a BLDC motor - and even do custom dents into whatever mode you want to use! Not sure if it would be a better scroll wheel, but it WOULD be super neat to see you attempt it hahaha Either way, very cool project! Keep up the great work!
So you have seen the smart knob video by scottbez! Awesome project. I would assume that it is possible to implement but not without blowing the complexity of the mouse out of the water for a few reasons. As it stands the mouse features two real time systems. The communication with the PC and the position tracking. Both require pretty tight timing for that low powered microcontoller. He had to dial down the DPI for the bluetooth variant just to make do with the available resources. The knob is an entire new real time system with more added complexity. So either add more microcontollers or step it up to a beefier unit and both would impact battery life or at least make it a lot more diffficult space wise. You could just outsource the communication to a dedicated module and leave all the mouse parts to the Arduino. That would probably work but again it need energy and space. And a few compute cycles to send the information over.
The rotary encoder on the mouse wheel is the first to fail or glitch in my experience. After I learned that logitech puts opto-pair on even the cheapest mouses, it becomes my favorite brand.
Love the project and I've been looking into building my own mouse for a bit now but I'd say that repairing a mouse is far easier, especially the scroll wheel. I had problems on my Razer Naga Chroma's scroll wheel and for anyone interested all I had to do was unsticking the plastic adhesives that cover the screws (gently, being careful not to break them to reuse them), unscrew the bottom, unscrew the mouse wheel rotary sensor (just another screw) and opening it. Inside there are some small metal legs that push against another metal part. In most cases to fix the sensor it's enough to bend the metal legs a little bit outwards using some tweezers, to make sure that they make contact with the other part of the sensor. After that put everything back together and that should be it! It's that easy and doesn't cost you a penny. If you have some at home I'd suggest putting a tiny bit of lube in it, such as wd40, it will help the contacts last longer without interfering with the functionality of the sensor. For the buttons it's a tiny bit more complicated, but nothing that you wouldn't have to do if you consider building your custom mouse: soldering! You just have to spend a few cents for another mouse switch (or rescue it from another broken mouse), open up your mouse, locate the switch that isn't working. Then you just have to desolder the old switch and solder in the new one. To desolder it, if you don't have the tools to do it don't worry: you can improvise and try to do the job using just the soldering iron. You just have to hold the tip of the iron on one of the pins that you have to desolder until the solder gets melted, then you try to move one part of the switch out (doesn't matter if it doesn't completely come off, don't rush it). Once done do the same for the other pin of the switch. You continue to repeat this bit by bit until the switch eventually comes off. Then you solder in the new one and another mouse has been saved from the trash! ps: just to make it clear, no hating here! Just a guy, whose primary language isn't english, that is trying to share some knowledge with people that may need it or just be interested :)
Thank you for the info!
YT randomly recommended this and I'm so glad it did. I love my Logitech M575 trackball, but the main switches have a tendency to fail in a year, and for gaming the polling rate and latency sucks. Once in a rare while I'll get it in my head that I'll learn what I need to build my own and will spend some time looking up people's DIY mouse projects for inspiration. This is maybe the best example I've seen yet that gives me hope that one day my dream of the perfect M575 alternative will exist.
I'm a big fan of the thumb scrollwheel idea
so cool! I love this mouse!
I definitely want to make something like this sometime, it seems like it would be super useful for me.
Awesome! The only thing I'd change is to either sand the surface or use acetone smoothing on it. Although, you probably appreciate the extra grippiness of the unsmoothed print.
Good video and well explained. Having big hands and playing FPS can get painful. I have been working on one myself that has a Cortex-M4 at its heart, dual sensors, as well as a different suite of buttons. In shaping the body we took almost exactly the same steps, I just did more smoothing in blender. Also some of those rotary encoders have COM on the side pin.
Awesome project.
If you have a magnifying rig like a head mounted loupe, it's actually not that hard to solder surface mount stuff as long as the pins are visible and you have a small enough tip to work with. That rules out BGA and QFN packages, but you still can do a lot without them. It does eliminate the ESP32 mini module variants, though.
Fellow big hand here, yeah i was thinking of just going for a case mod that way i can still keep the pros of the G502 but still be able to use the thing. Was actually watching this video as I want to make a wireless mouse but in the shape of a pen, so the sensor is the pen tip, as a means for me to learn art without investing into a graphics tablet as I could also make a modular keyboard setup for all the hotkeys and such to use in whatever app i will use! Great vid
Thank you! Finally someone else who understands the beauty of having extra left and right clicks!!! My favourite mouse of all time still is the Roccat Tyon with 16 buttons spread out evenly over all fingers with 32 functions using the onboard shift key (non of the thumb keypad BS!). Unfortunately that mouse was too niche and was pulled from their lineup after a short production.
PS, it's pretty handy to have PGUP/PGDN, Home/End, Ctrl+T/W, Ctrl+Shift+T/W, and Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab on the mouse as a power user of the WWW.
I will definitely be making this
Really good!!
This was so cool!
Another awesome video!
Thank you!
Oh man I don't what your background is but you are kind of the perfect mix of artist and engineer, truly inspiring work there
Thank you. My day job is building websites, but I have always made stuff since I was a kid and also enjoy drawing/painting, etc.
@@benmakeseverything Great to hear, I would suggest you to do a video for tips on how you learn stuff and organize your project. That could be interesting
thats awsome!
Super cool!
nice project, i allways used the logitech mx series. now i have the mx master 3S and i love it. mainly because of the thumb scroll wheel.
Man! You are God send for my Arthritis! Thank you very much!
this is really cool, nice job. I've been a logitech trackball user for years due to my needs and the quality of the switches has gone downhill in all of their mice. one used to last me years and I replaced the last few withing a year because of faulty clicking. finally had to swap out the switches with some kailh blue 2.0 -that fixed that but the rubberized plastic and micro usb are def not made to last.....
man ! straight out of some sci-fi movie ! i would rlly have a gaming mouse with such asthetics .
I had the same dream some 3 years ago. My problem then was sourcing the sensor. Maybe I'll look into it again now. Thanks!
Some sensors are pretty easy to source from aliexpress, digikey, mouser and others. I ended up postponing building a DIY trackball as the Ploopy Thumb Trackball fits my needs damn nearly perfectly. And it's open source too. Although the DIY mouse and trackball communities aren't as big as the DIY keyboard community, there are plenty of resources online.
@@gcolombelli I've been looking the last couple of days and they are available now in 'normal' quantities. 3y ago I would have had to source them trough alibaba with moq of 10000
Love the video !
good job! just an idea would it be nicer to use transparent filament maybe since the inside components (chip and wheel) looks cool
Wow finally somebody promoting the PROMICRO, my favourite 😍
Cool build! I was looking at doing something like this but I'm stuck in my current projects code as I know very little about Arduino code. Might be able to get round to it in like a year lmao
i love the idea of putting extra buttons for the index and middle fingers, instead of doing like the razer trinity where you have to press everything with your thumb
This is really cool.
That's really really cool I should make my own mouse though i might stick with the flappy paddle mouse clicks
Really cool project - wouldn’t mind making one and I can think of a few other uses for some of the tools. Obviously a bit of a late suggestion, but I wonder if you could get the Arduino version of the code to work with a nice!nano? It’s sold as a drop in replacement for the Pro Micro, and it seems like folks have gotten it working with the PMW3360 trackball.
Awesome!
That's joyful to watch
awesome . i wished the mouse makers make bigger ergonomic mouses like yours
Man I am over here trying to figure out how to fix my g903 because its the only "gaming mouse" that comfortably fits my had. I use palm grip. I cant even figure out how to make 3d printed base and shell to lighten her up lol. This guys over here designing his whole mouse himself. Great job man!
I love the idea of mechanical switches on a mouse. Nice work.
Superior content, sir!
Nice design
beautiful mouse
Very cool!
adorable!
So great. It would be neat if you released a standard ‘core’ that people could build then just add their own 3d printed grip on top. (Opposed to having to redesign the entire shell)
Great job:)
Super cool project dude! How is the latency of button presses on the wired version? Do you have some way to test it? Maybe you could have some program running on your computer that would "respond" to the mouse (sending some command back) and then test the roundtrip time?
One more GOOD CONTENT, Ben!
PLEASE make a full Tutorial series on how to program an Arduino / How you learnt how to program it, how you learnt to do all the wiring, 3D Designing etc. Basically a full "DIY Course" would be awesome (I REALLY want to get into that kind of programming but don't know where/how to start..)
I suppose I could try making some instructional videos. I'm completely self-taught, mostly by just watching tutorials, but I do understand that it can be overwhelming. Right now I'm focused on building my next project, but I will consider your suggestion for the future. Thanks for watching!
@@benmakeseverything Thank you so much and I'll make sure to check my subscription box :)
The Corsair M65 is very easy to take apart. There's just no repairing it. It is notorious for the scroll wheel to mess up. Some have said cleaning it helps for awhile, but I had no such luck. Switched to Razer and it's been two trouble-free years. YMMV of course
I need it 💓... thank you I loved the video
Im def gonna try this out but with a mouse i currently have, its a spare mouse i bought for its sake of ergonomic design, it has a similar botton layout i quite enjoy, but the chip wont allow more than 4 mouse botton binds. The other ones can be binded to premade finctions that are not usefull to me tho. so i would not mind try pryinh it open slam an arduino onto it and just solder the prexisting bottons to it
Looks great. I would definitely look for a USB-C version of that board - even though it'll cost a few cents more, USB-C cables are getting cheaper than the micro USB ones. I will definitely try if your hand is somewhere near the size of mine as I have that same issue with gaming mice being too small and getting cramps in the pinky finger.
Sweet i want to make a classic style gaming mouse with a trackball on the bottom
Nice go at it. But there are quite a few reasons why people opt to build new shells around existing mice guts, and while simplicity is probably the main one, having tried and tested components, firmware/software and top-notch sensor/wireless functionality are definitely in that list as well.
Had an idea like this bouncing around my head for a few months now. I haven't been happy with the way a mouse has felt in my hands since the Saitek R.A.T. 7 but even if I wanted to scrounge around for old stock i'm too used to the extra buttons and functionality my Roccat Leadr provides. And since mice like the Leadr seem to be few and far between i've been thinking "screw it i'll do it myself". I've also seen all the "take this mouse and put it in a new shell" videos and that's what i've wanted to avoid. I figured I was going to have to design a PCB at some point, but I had no idea how I was going to do the rest. This helps a ton. Might be a bit before I actually get around to doing this but the idea keeps growing :3 Gonna miss the wireless bit of my Leadr though, but I barely deal with code as it is i'm not going to attempt to figure out how to get the latency down.
If you sold this, I would buy one. I also have a bit bigger hands AND I think it's pretty smart to have two buttons where there is usually 1, the scroll wheel is also very smart. I'd buy one.
very cool!
Those keys are looking real good 🙆🏻♂️
Bro That's Cool I recommend you to make your own company you are genius.
Making your own mouse is a great way to implement macro buttons, which I miss everytime I change my mouse (and had to accomodate with the new button layout). They are very useful in CAD. BTW, did you consider using a ESP32 instead of arduino ? With its higher clock speed you may increase poll rate and precision. There are a bunch of ways to use it as HID and even, with some boards, you already have bluetooth (ESPRESSIF ESP32 should be very good for this task). Great job.
I did try to create a version using a Feather S3, which is ESP32-based. That was the wireless version mentioned in the video. Unfortunately, the latency was not very good. It may be that the code was not optimized, but I figure there is probably a good reason that commercially available wireless mice use a dedicated USB receiver...
That is awesome! Your scroll wheel grabbed my attention. It looks like it has to make your UX better with this main buttons. In general mouse looks great, but I was left upset when you didn't reveal the weight :( Maybe it was too important to me. I just love how some people get creative out of their annoyence. These products are the best! What is even more cool - that you do it for yourself mostly BY yourself :D Thanks for the video!
Thank you! I can't find my scale right now, to weigh it but if I do, I'll let you know.
@@benmakeseverything appreciate your attention to my comment. I'd be grateful if you'd do that for me!
Found the scale. 143 grams/5oz
@@benmakeseverything DAAAAMMMM that's a lot, does it feel that heavy anyway?
@@centip3de930 Not really, I barely noticed a difference from my other mouse, but then it comes down to personal preference
Oh dang, I just commented on your Cyberdeck video because I also made a custom Framework computer. Now I realized that you also built a custom mouse? I must admit, it's not a competition, but yours is slicker than mine. It was several years ago, and I couldn't figure out how to get an arduino to read a mouse sensor, so I ended up using the Keymouse PCB which is meant for their products, which include a keyboard, so they're bigger.
nice mouse! nice jacket too!