NIKON'S NEW 180-600mm f/6.3 REVIEW for WILDLIFE
Full Review of Nikons new 180-600mm telephoto lens For Wildlife. Full comparison with the Sony 200-600 and lots of photos from in the field. Is it worth the money? Let's find out. Cheers, Duade
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Chapters
00:00 Nikon 180-600mm Review
00:36 Lens Specs
06:58 Weight & Size
08:40 Image Quality
12:57 Extenders
20:53 Sony Comparison
26:03 VR & IBIS
29:49 Video VR
30:37 Autofocus
32:04 MFD & DOF
33:00 Summary
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I had doubts that Nikon survive the late move to mirrorless. But I think they made it.
I preordered the 180-600 at launch... and rightly so, I have been following and watching every single video that releases to make sure I have made the right decision. I had been saving/budgeting for a few years to gift myself the NIKKOR Z 400mm f/4.5 VR S for my 40th birthday in 2024... and then when this lens came out at half the price....... I could not resist. The tough thing now is waiting it out for delivery.
You ever get this lens in? Any thoughts on it?
@@MichaelSeneschal finally got it in on Sept. 19th, 2023. Thoughts... I haven't used it much. Maybe 500 or so shots. It was such a hot summer when it arrived that quickly went in to a hard winter. The week it arrived, I managed to take some humming bird pictures from about 10 feet away via our backdoor at home (used an off camera flash to bring out some refraction on the shady side of the bird). It was incredible. It blew away my former images using a 2X teleconverter on my old 70-200 2.8! (comparing may not be fair, because it was also on an old D700 body!) I used it 2 weeks ago at the lake. Had the lens on for 5 minutes when a Herron flew by, circled around and landed in the water approximately 50 yards out at 600mm for a dream shot! (Was a burst of about 30 pictures following it down to the water. 10 of those frames were so stunning that I decided to put the camera away and enjoy the rest of the day because I got what I wanted...) I really expected to use the lens more by now... But I am a new dad, weather has been harsh, hot and cold. We are just now entering Spring Time so I expect to put it to use. One thing I want to try with it is the Solar eclipse on April 8, 2024. We are in the "path of totality". I have ordered a 20 stop ND. I am considering renting the 2X TC for Z to try and shoot the eclipse at 1200mm. I am not sure if it's something I want to own or not. I haven't had the best of luck with TC's.
Your showing of the raw and your crop is one thing that sets you apart so few other people do that on KZhead, they just show their over processed edit which isn’t true to the result in the field
As someone who is relatively new to photography, I couldn't agree more. This was really helpful to see as well as encouraging in terms of what my own shots could be with some more practice/experience with editing. My results don't often resemble what I see, but I'm realizing the disparity isn't as wide as I first believed!
Pre-ordered day 1 and sold all my canon rf stuff. I've always liked nikons files so this lens plus 3rd party support led me this way.
do u miss the r system AF?
I've only been using Nikon's for a little over 50 years now, so I remember what used to pass for sharpness way back when -- and long telephotos were at the top of the list. I just purchased a Z8 after about 6 years with a D850, and I am impressed. Your explanations are clear and concise, and most importantly, you don't rush through your video like you have a train to catch. Thanks so much...
only a little over 50 years!!!! wow
Nikon's lenses have been taking a really different turn from other manufacturers, it's really good to see Canon users reviewing other companies' gear. Rather than just 'Canon is better use Canon', you give us much more detail into why, which is invaluable. 🙂
These days, Canon is good but expensive. Moreover, they nourish some superstitions that have strong spell on them which even priests are unable to drive off. Like producing a 200-600mm prosumers zoom lens. They never had the guts to do it for DSLRs, that scare continues till date.😅
Canon can't use other lenses anymore, so canon can only talk about canon 😬
Hi Duade. Thanks for your honest comments. I've got this lens on order along with a Nikon Z8. Can't wait to see how I can improve my bird photography.
Thanks for the review Duade. Did you test the lens at F7.1? Is the lens as sharp at F7.1 as it is at F8.0?
I never thought the difference in sport vs normal vr is so extreme! Thanks for letting us know!
Amazing review! I‘m shooting Canon but I think it‘s an realy good lens for Nikon shooters.
You smile, you enjoy, you do reviews.... but everything is secondary to your joy of shooting and presenting your resulting shot. That is contagiously positive and good for the viewer's soul. Nobody does this kind of review. You are not so much Tech-focused because the main things are shooting and handlings... and you speak of them like a friend at the pub sharing his own experience. And that makes you perfect for me. I'm a Nikon shooter, but it's a feast to me a Duade video. > I long to come and see your backyard, do some shots with my own gear ( sure I am, you wouldn't do the reverse !! )
Much appreciated Duade. I have had this lens on a kind of pre-order ever since it appeared on the Nikon timeline. My camera store here in Sydney has assured me that I am "first cab off the rank". I did once own a 200-500mm F mount. But I was never happy with it. Cheers.
Wow. Didn't know the Focus Breathing was so bad on the Sony 200-600. Great images, Duade and very fair review.
I'm not much of a gear junkie, but for some reason the way you bring gear reviews and talk about how lenses and bodies perform - especially in the field, is very insightful, informative and quite helpful. There's a lot you go through and details that I wouldn't ordinarily think about, but which contribute to any decision making potential down the line. I also enjoy seeing all those bird images!
This must be better than my nikkor 200-500mm. I need one!!! Excelent review as always!
Great review. Would love to see a comparison with this combo vs. the OM-1 + 150-400 f/4.5 combo.
Great review. Answered all of my questions as i await its delivery. Also love the as shot RAW image and then after some post work. Well done.
Thanks for the thorough review, Duade! You're not the only reviewer who found the lens noticeably softer at f6.3, and sharpening up at f8. My copy just arrived today, and I hope to start putting it through the paces this week at a local wildlife area. I greatly appreciate your honest reviews. Having the pros and cons to consider always makes for a better purchase decision with managed expectations. Happy shooting!
Excellent review Duade
This is one fine review, Duade. You sure captured some really nice images with this lens, too. It is a lot of work to do a review video like this. Thanks for taking the time and sharing the results.
Thanks mate, yes, a lot of effort but hopefully will be a long term resource for those interested in the lens. Cheers, Duade
What a great video, thank you for this review Duade
Great review, its a shame that canon don't produce something similar, really like that you show the pros and cons of the equipment you review
It's not only this lens. Nikons entire lens line-up offers better overall performance even with lower priced S-Line lenses, for example read the customer reviews about the Z 50 mm f/1.8 S lens. I've checked similar budget f/1.8 lenses at Canon but they are mediocre at best. At Canon you have to buy very expensive L glass to get high quality.
Thanks Harry, it is always fun to try different brands, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Cheers, Duade
Have you tried the RF100-400? not sure any other lens comes close for value and sharpness, but I agree Nikon are producing some wonderful wildlife lenses. Cheers, Duade
The real unbiased review that I was looking for! Thanks
Thanks a lot Duade ! Great review and very interesting tips !
Great Review. Thanks a lot. 👍 For me as a Sony shooter the Canon 100-500/7.1 was the game changer of this three lenses.
Excellent review thanks Duade
This is an excellent review! Very useful! Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the clarification
Well done! Can't wait to get my hands on this new lens!!
Thanks for a great Video Duade
Great review!! For the very first time with TC 1.4. Thanks!
I really hope these ship soon. Got mine on order
Probably the best lens review I've ever watched. Cheers from NSW
Great review!
Thanks for great review
Absolutely great , nice review
Thank you, thorough and wonderful to watch, as always!
My pleasure, Cheers, Duade
Very informative video, Duade, thank you. I have this lens on pre-order (am UK based) as an upgrade to my Tamron 150-600 F-mount via FTZII adapter. Interested in your experiences with the 1.4 TC, which I may well add - if I can get the additional expenditure past my Financial Controller / Wife...
Absolutely great comparison! Congrats!
excellent review .... love it
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always Duade, keep up with the awesome content 🐦👌🤗
Thanks mate, will do. Cheers, Duade
Excellent review and presentation. The supporting captions and information are hard to find in other reviews. Love your reviews! Thank you for the effort and sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful subjects .Seriously. Well done. T.
can't wait to find some time to go out into the field and take photos! I enjoy putting headphones on and listening to you and planning my next adventure. Thanks!
Have fun!
Good review, very helpful!! Kudos to Nikon Australia for sending you the lens. Glad they recognize the value you provide your viewers!
Much appreciated!
Very informative, thanks.
Excellent video!! Please also review Nikon 800mm f/6.3 PF lens. Thank you
Thanks very much for this excellent, thorough review. They always factor into my future purchasing plans. Kind regards.
My pleasure Jeffery, Cheers, Duade
Perfect I am in the market for this lens I’m so glad you posted a review!
Glad I could help!
Very good video, thank you. A realistic review of all the things that matter. Great presentation style, with relevant images to match what you're saying. I have one of these on order to go with my Z9, and your review confirms my choice. Thanks very much.
Thanks so much for this straight forward review! I’m on the list at my local camera store to get one of these lenses to pair with my new Z8! I can’t wait!!!
Fantastic review! Your detailed insights really helped me understand the capabilities of the Nikon 180-600mm lens! 📸
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers, Duade
Finally you mention the big difference in use: the 100 mm of the Canon! This is a BIG difference. Great review again so far! Greetings again from the Netherlands Onno Nugteren. (EF 4.0 300) 🙂
Beautiful lens but let's talk about that wildlife in your area! Mindblowing!
Preordered my lens today. Hope I get mine soon. Thanks for a good review and video as always! Best regards from Sweden.
Have fun with it, very nice lens, Cheers, Duade
wonderfully honest review. thank you for this
My pleasure!
A really nice review and appreciate your honesty. I’m still contemplating trading my 500pf for this lens because I love the flexibility of shooting from 180-600 however was concerned about the loss of sharpness. It’s really good to see that zooming back to 500mm sharpens the lens considerably therefore makes the choice easier so having the extra reach added to the flexibility of that wonderful zoom range is well worth it 👍
Excellent and very honest review, much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome pictures, awesome review. Thank you!
Great work 👍👌🙏🏼
Hi @Duade that was an amazing review 👏🏻 What picture control or file did u use for the video, maybe raw?
At 6.04 - I think you have not fully understood the “Save to all” & “Save individually” options. The four buttons around the lens act as one - they cannot be programmed individually (assuming this is the same as the 800mm pf that I own and the other Nikon telephoto primes). However you can assign the “Recall focus position” function to multiple buttons on the camera (Z9 in my case). This means that if you select the “Save Individually” option you will be prompted to choose which of the buttons on the camera you would like to recall that particular focus distance. So you can in fact assign different focus positions to each of those buttons on the camera. Handy if you're in a situation where you're hoping a bird may return to one of several perches. Just have to remember which button to press for. each one!
The Nikon 400 f4.5 is so light and sharp its incredible. I ordered 2 180-600 one for me and one for my buddy 😅. I can't wait for the new APS-C offerings. Z50ii.
Since it's Nikon: haven't much to say... Except: always fun to see the photos! Also: !!
Yes, lots of fun shots, Cheers, Duade
Fascinating to see Duade. The affordability, reach and build quality of this Nikon lens is a winning combination and I only wish Canon would take this onboard with their high-end pricing. I really enjoyed the opportunity to view more images from you that included an excellent moonscape and a stunning Killawarra sunrise! For me that Eastern yellow robin in such a beautiful habitat was tops but many other highlights including swamphens, cockatoos, scarlet robins (your robins are so colourful compared to NZ), red-rumped parrots and dead-tree falcon. Great to see you hand-holding too and all the way down to 1/40th! I really enjoyed and always look forward to your next posting Duade.
Thanks Mike, yes, it is pleasing to see such a good lens shake up the competition. Yes, it was fun doing the moon and sunrise and of course the birds. I still think your tomtits are very pretty and who wouldn't want to see a Black Robin one day :-) Cheers, Duade
Good honest review. Would be nice to see comparison with the S 100-400, but I know you don't have that lens on hand.
A nice overview, thanks. Due to a physical handicap, I find the weight off-putting at 4.5lbs. I currently use the Canon RF100-500 for birding, which is about my physical limit at 3.0lbs. As you are a long-time user of the Canon lens, I am curious as to your sense of relative image quality given that the Canon is from their L series?
What a fantastic review this is!
Thank you kindly!
Currently the only Nikon lense that stands out... Many others are just a gimmick. I'm Nikonian. BTW lovely video!
Great job, Duade! Very informative. I have a 180-600 on order. It's funny. Nikon announced the 180-600 before Sony announced the a6700. There is no telling when I'll get a 180-600. I've had my a6700 for 10 days! LOL
I am just waiting for mine to arrive as it is pre-ordered from my local dealer. I will be pairing it with my Z9 and will be using it for water based motorsports and aircraft photography. It will be interesting to see how it performs compared to my Sigma 150-600 sports that I currently use.
Nice review sir! Do you know the maker and model of an Arca-Swiss plate for this lens? Thanks!
Thank you for this comprehensive and detailed review. The best video I have seen about the 180-600 so far. 👍🙂 I hope to get my lens delivered soon. For me it is a great added value that it has an internal zoom and focus.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review thank you ! Still debating between this one and the 400 f/4.5 Z + TC, which is smaller and much lighter and will likely be sharper (though more expensive)
Hi Duade. Thanks for yet another excellent, and unbiased, review. Nikon seem to have done a fantastic job with this lens for the price, actually really fantastic for the price. Hopefully the wide open sharpness weakness is just something confined to the pre-production sample you’ve been testing - can’t seem to find it being raised as a particular issue in other reviews even though it is quite clear (well not so clear!) in your test lens. If I was a Nikon user I think I’d probably have an order in already. I don’t think it’s enough to make we want to move from Canon but it should certainly be giving Canon (and even Sony) something to think about. Thanks again.
Thanks John, yes, could have been just this lens, not sure, hopefully that is sorted for the final version. I think it will make many Nikon users very happy. Cheers, Duade
I got lucky. Everything came together for me last week. Got a bonus for 10 years at my workplace, got a 10% discount for the Nikon online store and the lens was actually available. So I pulled the trigger immediately, even though I originally planed to upgrade from my 200-500/5.6E much later. Should arrive by Wednesday and I can't wait to try it!
Again an other honest review! Very nice! It would be nice to see how big is the subject at 2,4 meters compared to Sony lens. Which I understand that is better in Nikon as you review but at 2,4 meters we could have better understanding of the macro capabilities. Except if you did that and I missed it. 😊. Greetings from Cyprus, I always enjoy your videos, they make me relax.
Wow this is incredible. I have a Z6 but have been using my adapter Leica M Mount lenses because the Nikon Z lenses are insanely expensive. I also wanted to use this camera for wildlife and this gives me a lot of hope ! Great review
Great review Duade - Thank You 🙏🏻 , ordered one so braced myself for the negatives but schooling to use 7.1/8 much more & coming from Sigma I reckon I’ll be over the moon. Internal zoom and video should be game changers for me 😊
Great to hear Simon, yes plenty sharp at 7.1/8 and pretty sharp wide open
Nice review and comparison.👍 Waiting for this Lens in Germany. Is there a particular reason why you shoot 1.5 f-stops underexposed?
Great review! I’m a Canon shooter, but I feel that they are out of touch with amateur shooters. I currently shoot the R5 and RF 100-500. I wish it was a 600, but there are so many things that keep me loving this lens. Weight and versatility! I can do landscape at 100 mm, and I can do macro-ish photos with .9 m minimum focus distance. This is the only lens I own. I did get the 1.4 tc for some extra reach, but you need good light to make that work. I really only use it when the ducks are migrating. Sometimes I have to remind myself, it’s not the gear that makes a truly good photo! Thanks for reviewing all brands, it’s good to know what’s out there! Cheers!
Terrific review. Your coverage, insights and honesty result in the best review I have seen on this lens. The lens comparisons were also helpful info. Informative images and compositions as well. I'm looking forward to having that reach and flexibility in the field. Update: it is front heavy. On the plus side, it better fills my frame (than my 500) with the subjects, and the VR seems a superb improvement. I am getting sharper images in flight than I expect.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's not only this lens. Nikon had already exceptional telephoto lenses such as the 500 mm f/5.6 PF or the new very lightweight Z 400 mm f/4.5 S or the 300 mm f/4 PF but also the 200-500 mm f/5.6 was very popular. It has 956 customer reviews at B&H photo.
The Primes you mention are great lens, but the 200-500 wasn’t great at the start. A few had to get 2nd or 3rd copy to have a good AF. Unfortunately, I was one of them that didn’t have a good lens.
I have both the 300mm F/4 PF and 500 f/5.6 PF - both work well with my Z8. I'm very much on the fence about this Nikon 180-600mm lens. I have the Fuji 150-600mm and like using it with my X-T5.
Nikon is doing so well with lenses, I’m lucky enough to have the Z 800mm f6.3 and whilst it is still very expensive it is amazing value for money. I use it to shoot airshows paired with a Z6ii, would love to add this lens to my bag but I think it’ll be a while yet 😂
Congrats, I really want to try that lens out, Cheers, Duade
Send your lens to Duade or fly out there and do a shoot together
@@__-bk6mm interesting idea, let me invite myself out there and whilst I’m at it shake the money tree lol
Thanks, Duane. I'm going to pass the link to this video along to an online Nikon group I am a part of. Excellent video. As far as the lens being a little soft wide open at 600mm, I'm not surprised. I've yet to see and x-600mm zoom that isn't, with the exception of the Sony. With the focus breathing of the Sony, though, it's not really a 600 when shooting close. Anyway, thanks again. :)
Thank you for a very thorough overview of this lens. I was particularly pleased in the comments re Sport and Normal VR, as I had found the viewfinder movement off-putting as well on Normal and thus always used Sport, but that explains my lower keeper rate for sharpness in low light! Very helpful.
The above not with this lens, but with the 500mm PF.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much for doing this review. I've watched all the reviews out there and you answered a question I had that I don't believe anyone else covered. Its the save/recall focus position. When this first became available IN CAMERA, there was only a few nikon z lenses that would allow it to work, that didn't have it on the lens itself like the 500pf does. And its something that would've been deal breaker for me if it didn't have it bc I use it a lot. I am getting this lens and will most likely be selling my 500 pf.. this will allow me to have the full range of focal length I need/want for video and images, in one lens vs carrying two lenses. Even if theres a slight loss in quality, speed and bokeh rendering, it will be worth to me. I will do a comparison though before selling the 500pf, to make sure its not an unbearable loss. I don't believe I'll have a problem selling either one in an instant.
If FL is 840mm, 1/30s is about 4 stops, so while result is excellent, given it's rated at 5.5 stops you should be able to even get keepers at 1/10-1/15s depending on how unsteady you are. Duade, I pointed this out last time you had a spec list of lenses but you didn't correct it, and the Nikon is not 0.2x it's 0.25x, so it needs to move up that list considerably. Your video even shows it. The Nikon focuses to the same mfd as the Sony and the image is much larger, so magnification is much better. IIRC Ricci's tests seemed to be much better wide open than your copy.
Love the content! We are definitely spoiled for affordable wildlife gear. On that note, would lover to see your opinions of the little A6700 paired with the 200-600, particularly with respect to the AF performance.
Thanks, I have been trying to source the Sony a6700 with no luck whatsoever unfortunately. Cheers, Duade
@@Duade I'm actually very glad that's on your radar! An a6700 video would be very timely too especially considering all the excitement for Sony's upcoming A7c cameras that have similar AI autofocus capabilities. Love your work as always and thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
We have those focus memory buttons on Canon primes. They can even remember 2 areas. Unfortunately every time I forget how to activate 2 memory slots 😂
What a great review! I wish everyone else was this thorough! EXTREMELY informative, and VERY interesting! Thanks for sharing! I currently have a SIGMA sport 150-600, and I have been quite disappointed with it at 600mm (attempts at moon shots have been quite hopeless) - of course it could be "just that one example" of this lens, so I'm not criticising SIGMA (I also have one of their ART lenses, and I am amazed how good that one is!) But still, it has left a sour taste, and I have already made up my mind to replace it - so this 180-600 from Nikon looks like being "the go" for me.
Would've liked to see how the 2x teleconverter works, shots from the sony 2x +200-600mm ive seen are very impressive
First of all, I love your channel! Your videos are super informative, and a really helpful. I'm looking to buy my first long tele-zoom, and in addition to this lens, I've been looking at the Sigma/tamron 150-600, as well as the 200-500 for nikon F mount. In previous videos for the Sigma & Tamron lenses, you talked extensively about the issues with "focus pulsing". I was wondering if you experienced anything like that at all with the lens?
Excellent review. I just got mine and had a chance to use it last night photographing birds in flight including a blue heron that flew right over me. I had it on 20fps and got about 15 sharp! ❤ The new 2.0 software update that includes bird tracking is brilliant on the Nikon Z8. I used to have my own 600 F4 and 400/3.5 when I shot Sports professionally but I haven't had a super telephoto in a long time. I'm very happy. I'm even pleased with the results that I see shooting wide open, even at 600 mm. One stop down is better. Cheers.
I'm still waiting on mine but can you tell me what the diameter of the lens hood is? I want to order a slip on filter for the eclipse next year.
This is the best review I have seen about this lens.. 👍
Happy to hear that!
Nice one I am half torn 0m-1 or z8/9 with that lens
Duade did you notice any chromatic aberration (blue/red) on images when continuously shooting on moving subjects with VR ON ? specifically after the first shoot (as I noticed that my 80-400mm F-mount had this problem with VR ON for the shoots after the first image, the remaining images had CR when zoomed into the image). This only occurred when autofocusing on moving subjects - birds in flight or moving the camera whilst taking shots.
I preordered the first day 20/6 .❤❤
Any ideas when they will show up? , ordered 17/7 ?
@@simonbooker they said maybe 20/7 when I ordered but now they say sometime in September if you read different forums.😏
@@dannesweden4166 ah well, august is a bad time for birds so hopefully September can be "learning curve" month!
I have the Nikon 500mm F4 vrII, Its an amazing lens, So sharp but its way to heavy. This is a great lens that im going to get. Thank you. Im also waiting for the Nikon Z6 mark 3 that is soon to be released in the next few weeks.