VIOLENT ISLAMIC DOGMA! Douglas Murray, Maajid Nawaz, Sam Harris
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@@RD-0101 The link is in the description.
The fascist tactics of Trudoe are truely frightening. But, the Political Islam which is maneuvering in the background will end up becoming the bigger threat to freedom and Canadian culture/society. And virtually no one is willing to even discuss it.
@Abesyoutube: The wail of "Islamophobia", will become the victim signalling cry of the cowards who can't stand the light of genuine inquiries or legitimate critique. And any objections will be crushed by the weak minded who have no better argument then claiming victim/abuser paradigm. And the draconian Shariah lovers will march us all towards our own doom. Mark my words. This too will come to pass. And even though I've been warning all who will listen for ten+ years... no one bothers to hear.
Islam isn't just only a religion it's also connected to Islamic political aspirations and Islamic law, if it were just a religion it wouldn't be so different from the others, it's the politics and laws that make it one of the most dangerous ideologies today.
Exactly right.
Hence why it is not a religion, and legally it shouldn't be considered one.
Isn't Sharia Law the law enforcement wing of Islam?
Interesting.
You forgot to mention that Islam is based on sex. Even their paradise is a heavenly brothel. No other religion does this .
❤🎉 Without lies Islam dies 😢😮
time to MOVE the goal post BACK to a more original metric. Islam enslaved, murdered and stole the Jews of Medina in 640ce. This is the starting point of theft. Then the Arabs (under islam) did the same to the rest of the greater Middle East, conquering the Copts, Jews, Druze, Kurds, Animalists, Berbers and many others (and parts of Persia). After WW1 when the Moslem Ottomans (who conquered the Arabs) was defeated those un-conquered lands were dispatched to many an Arab. The Jews?, Under the League of Nations proclaimed that Israel was the national homeland for the Jews. This is still the legal precedent. Of course, this land mass was butchered and a major portion given to the brothers of Arabia and that created the kingdoms of Iran and Jordan. Fast forward to 1948, the Partition of Palestine. One Jewish state, one Arab state. The Arabs refused and attacked and lost. Of course is it worth mentioning the Arabs (Jordan and egypt NEVER thought to create a palestinian state for the Arabs they controlled) but now the Palestinians claim that the UN international laws stand with them, after ignoring decades and decades of International law.
Without lies, religion dies. There, I fixed it for you.
@@robertbell2978Without lies, ideologies die - political, racial, cultic, atheistic, religious…the thing is, humans are, by nature, idealistic to various degrees no matter who or what they think they are. “Wokism” is the newest ideology on the scene. When it dies, something else will take its place and the lies will continue…as they always have.
@@robertbell2978Without lies, just about every institution known to mankind dies…because humans are idealistic in nature.
All Religions will die, not only Islam!
Brilliant and CRUSHING concise condemnation of the deadliest most destructive ideology in our lifetime. Thank you, #DouglasMurray 🇺🇸🇮🇱
Mind Begs the Question: - If those once Demonized - Demonize others - Following footsteps of their Oppressors,no?
Douglas Murray is a very, very intelligent man who speaks the TRUTH !!
Live and let live was the way of things until Muslims turned up.
Do you have ANY idea about the Christian atrocities in, and invasion of India, South America Africa etc? The Enlightenment was when Christianity was put on the back foot
@@subbukumar4068 …and then we got the secularized 20th century…the bloodiest century in all recorded human history. Point is, if classical religions go, new ones will arise by way of ideologies. We are what we are.
@@subbukumar4068 You are talking about events that happened a long time ago. Right now, Muslims are responsible for present-day atrocities.
Do you have ANY idea how much I love free speech - women’s equality - not being afraid of being stoned in the street - I could go on - thank you Christian / democrat counties.
@@subbukumar4068That's 100% my point. No theists and extremists should lead. We can't give power to systematic narcissism. We are a secular society with democratic system. All theists are for dictature of their religion. We can't have this. No matter of the religion because they are all oppressive. It's time to stop being tolerant to intolerant people.
So glad the truth is coming out.
A bit late.
Way too late 😪
But the ignorant won't grasp the danger. Look at our country. Islamic clerics warned us years ago " we will destroy the USA from within". Americans ignored it. 911, we're attacked. Go back to Pearl Harbor. Americans killed. Again ignorant naive people can't grasp, we are HATED. The liberal educational systems have succeeded in dumbing down Americans. They stripped patriotism away. Destroy our history. Tearing down symbols of our past. Weakening the moral fiber of society. Americans are too trusting & very naive, & gullible. This administration is anti American.
@@katarinatibai8396 Those who read Quran already know it. Most know that they get their "instructions" from their 'god". But west was ignoring it since the deep state did not use Islam as a tool for their new world order in EUROPE or America before the year 2000. But countries like India and other non western nations have always been a victim of Islam and were warning the west to understand it. But the west played dead unitl the year 2000.
❤🎉 ExMuslims 💯
Islam wants sharia law no ifs no buts. 😢😢😢
Thank you for everything you do Pangburn.
These guys are such bosses. I wish there was more legitimate debate now a days and not just emotional tirades.
At 1:20 this man says that you should be responding to what an Islamist ACTUALLY is saying, not what you believe he might be referring to... the problem with this is TAWRIYA...something practiced in Islam, and by just addressing what they are actually saying, is to focus in on the 'near' explanation, while in their own minds they are actually referring to the 'far' explanation, i.e. whatever an Islamist says, ALWAYS has a dual meaning...and they will TRICK you and LEAD your thoughts to just focus on the 'near' meaning... By making a case for a "Steel Man" argument vs a "Straw Man" argument, he has laid the foundation that when the "Far meaning" of an Islamic statement is addressed, it would APPEAR AS A STRAW MAN ARGUMENT.... Let me explain.... In the Quran, specifically in Al-Ma'idah 5:32 the following writing appears: مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ أَنَّهُۥ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْسًۢا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍۢ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعًۭا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَآ أَحْيَا ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعًۭا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَآءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِٱلْبَيِّنَـٰتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًۭا مِّنْهُم بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ ٣٢ Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And Our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. When a muslim tries to convert a non muslim to Islam...they will use PART of this verse to 'prove' the moral consciousness of Islam to the prospective follower, they will say to them: "Did you know in Islam we believe that to kill a child is to kill all of humanity?" a) They don't mention that the 'instruction' Muhammed received regarding this matter was FOR THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL (excluding Islam from this statement) b) They don't mention that Islam considers 'muslims' the 'best of people' and the rest 'the worst of creatures' c) That peaceful existence verses are only valid until muslims start gaining superior numbers in a society and thus become more dominant... (see 'mecca' verses ABROGATED by 'medina' verses!) Their aim with omitting the whole context in which this is found is for the following reasons: 1. To make the prospect believe that Islam is against violence to children and therefore morally superior. 2. To make the prospect DEDUCT that all people are considered to be humans. 3. To OBFUSCATE the fact that Islam is violent toward their own children, and actually condone 'honour' killings if a child disobeys or 'disgraces' his parents. This is double speak, leading a listener to believe one thing, while the muslim speaker actually means something totally different because THE CONTEXT is left up to the listener to guess... www.meforum.org/3181/tawriya-creative-lying-islam
👍✨ Brilliantly Insightful ! 🌹🌸🌷🌺💥
Yep. This is an overlooked factor in their Bullshit Tactics
To quote Carl Sagan who possibly was quoting someone else, “I would prefer to have questions that cannot be answered, Than answers that cannot be questioned”. Islam claims to have all the answers to the human condition, yet these answers cannot be questioned, as to do so would be blasphemy with a subsequent penalty of death.
Islam is insane.
When Jesus walked the streets of ancient Jerusalem, he spoke the ancient language of Aramaic, which was known as the low class language for the Jews that were a part of the low class, the upper and middle class educated Jews spoke Hebrew. Aramaic and Hebrew were not the only languages spoken of Jesus' time in Israel. The gentiles of that time mostly Greeks spoke the ancient Greek language and the Romans, another gentile people that were in control of Israel spoke Latin. What language wasn't spoken back then was Arabic, even though Arabic and Hebrew and Aramaic were a part of the Semitic languages. The Jews and the Christians of that time once dominated that landscape of Israel of that time and in Lebanon and Syria and Iraq etc... Who all spoke the Aramaic language before the Muslims from Saudi Arabia conquered those countries and forced the people in those nations to convert to Islam or face death and force them to speak the Arabic language which they speak even today. All thanks to the Muslims Middle East invasion . So today the " Palestinian " Christians can claim ties to Israel with the Jews, but the Palestinian Muslims can not as they are the conqueror of Israel. Today these Palestinian Christians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank are treated like second class citizens even though they consider themselves as Palestinians too.
The sad shame is that we can’t get minds and hearts such as these folk to step up and lead - dialogue and discussion is important but we need brave, honest leadership
Thank you Pangburn , Intellectual discourse, on current affairs , effecting our generation, is so much prescient. Cheers...! Only talk, discussion and debate amongst rational people , will we survive this current irrational age. Cheers.
How can anyone believe in books that states earth is flat.
Koran 68:1 speaks of the flat earth which resides on the back of a giant NUN (WHALE) and of Mohammads first creation which was a talking pen . You do really have to be insane to believe such gross garbage as the Koran . I swear I did not know that ants have a tongue and can speak until I read the Koran 😂😂😂
Also that stars are missiles to shoot down demons 😂 insane eh? The sun and moons are the same size and they revolve around the earth.
~ Hi. God is greater than Islam.
Mohammad is the god of islam . People don't realise The Koran says al-la has 99 names. It also says Mohammad had 99 names. Get it?
@@user-en1ty1sq5qBunch of bs the whole book
Salman Rushdie´s book "The Satanic Verse!" TRUTH revelation!
8:55 no their entire system is based on hypocracy, supposed to be so "pious" such "justice" as they claim yet its just sadistic barbarism & perversion. What the west has had to do to deal with ppl who dont share anytype of similar values is called making exceptions to the rule(s) when necessary. Say there is a wreck on a major highway that you can normally travel down freely. If theres an auto accident you have to break out the orange cones, have emergency vehicles with lights flashing blocking lanes etc so your normal legal right to proceed through the area isnt going to be what it normally is because there is extenuating circumstance preventing the normal legal passage from being possible. This isnt 1812 with "the red coats are coming" or ww2 with several identifiable militaries. If one side always plays by certain rules the other team doesnt even recognize or completely know, definately wouldnt agree to/with the rules of play/ engagement have to be adjusted.
This is what happens when you remove God, Good News, Daily Prayers, Holy Bible, Family values etc. from families and institutions. The devil enters in 7 folds and destroy your peace and prosperity. Take back your freedom in Jesus Christ, He will take care the rest.
Stop worshipping and wake up
20:10 what about prior to that, they seem to have a distorted memory. Strange they were participating in all the same things prior to Israel even becoming a country. Even in the specific area, you can take it anywhere from 20yrs prior to its creation to well over a thousand years prior.
It's not a religion. It all about control 🙈⛔
Baruch HaShem
Correct!
Even after all the death they still argue about religion not people,if they can still be called that
the man who seemed to be mostly speaking added nothing to my knowledge - just using up time
Live and let live, when in Rome, do as the Romans do, that covers it all, no deep philosophy needed.
Throw religion in and it isn't that simple.
This certainly is a highway for Islam domination, we need serious rules to block this barbarism.
@@rodneymarsden3003It is not easy but also not that much complicated. Respect the laws of your new country or go back home.
A thriving society must have numbers as must an army So why are people surprised that in Palestine the ratio of young children to the population is over 50%
Just looking at the thumb nail picture of the quran. And remembered I need to buy some toilet paper. 😂😂😂😂😂
Great conversation without the shrill ramblings of Jordan Peterson‼️Glad he wasn’t there🙏🏼😁
Oh God really, he acts like an intellectual while he really is not!!
If you listen and have the capacity to understand you would know the JPs words are carefully selected and only the ignorant would consider them “ramblings.”
Peterson's voice irritates me
@@trishbattersby5749 When Jordan Peterson claims that feminists have an unconscious wish for brutal male domination AND the masculine spirit is under assault! In his world; Order is MASCULINE - Chaos is FEMININE! Yes I find JP to be a delusional demagogue‼️
@trishbattersby5749, the hot air that comes out of JP could power a small town.
Islam has completly redefined after the death of Prophet Mohammed, just like Christianity and Judaism was re-defined. I advice people to get out of the established religions and seek the truth from scratch. I have rejected the establishment and picked Islam as I beleive in one God, and principles in Quar'an does not meant to hurt anyone: There is no god but Allah, be righteous as if you are the most truthful person on earth, perform your duties, question everything even the God himself, promote the good, and prevent the evil.I do not accept any middleman. This is lifelong journey and quite painful as every good thing comes with a price. Just like you go to school to learn a trade, you need to be thought by God himself to be a proper human.
In this instance, Holy has an 'e' in it.
Again, what are "western democratic secular values?" Still waiting for that answer. And I do mean passionately held and practiced values. As far as I can tell, commodification and consumption are the two primary values. Harris said it, "Buy our products." Objectivism, born of "Renaissance values", has decimated much of the world. Nuclear fallout, pesticide-laden landscapes, rising ocean levels, plastic waste continents. That is not a defense of religious dogma, but a statement of fact. Your condescending laughter won't change that.
How many X have the ungrateful Arabs been offered land Land that does not belong to the Sea people THE PIRATE 🏴☠️ PHILISTINS
Why Israel 🇮🇱 performed surgery on ungrateful Ismael Haniyas family in Jewish hospital 🏥 Why Jews saved yahya sunward life in an Israeli hospital 🏥??????????????
Maajid talking a lot of nonsense as usual.
When you remove God, Good News, Prayers, Holy Bible, Family values, Church etc. ,from your families and institutions, the devil enters in 7 folds and destroy your peace and prosperity. Repent, humble yourselves and come back to the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ.🙏🏻❤️
Jesus was just a man... No greater than you or I...
"depleated Uranium" ... ?
Jerusalem and Judea Sumeria belong to the Israelites
This is the most obvious statement I'll ever make that a book from the absolute creator should be packed with love... Try finding love in the koran lust yes .
Lack of effective communication is when both parties respond to what they think the other person is saying, not actually saying. Reasons why many relationships break down.
Where is Mr 'King' Charles? Maybe he could open his mouth and have a chat 😅😅
WOW-YOU ARE STILL FIXATED ON WANTING HIM TO BE YOUR BOYFRIEND-IS THAT WHY YOU ARE SO FIXATED ON KING CHARLES ? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE ☕️-ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN NOT AND NEVER WILL HAVE HIM AS YOUR BOYFRIEND LOL LOL LOL🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Who break the law of God?!. Isaias 1:18. Psalms 2:1-5 The law of china Animal or Monster it!!! Wisdom of Solomon 5:17-23. Job 38:11. Job 38:22-23?!. Revelation 19:11. Romans 11:8-10. Psalms 12:6-7. Job 40:18-19. Malachi 1:11. Hebreo 4:12.
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What is this majeez laughing about while Murray talks. Twit!
Sam describing how he wants Christian values and meaning, all while rejecting Christianity as a valid worldview... sad really.
I know there are Shia Muslims, Sunni Muslims, Nation of Islam Muslims, but which group is the one with the Aga Khan?
To @maryhildreth754 The Aga Khan is the leader of the one of the Ismaili groups. The Ismailis reached their apogee under the Fatimid dynasty in Egypt when the royal family was Ismaili. This was the only time that the Shia held a Caliphate.
Christianity will win through good v evil
Christianity is as bad. You are ignorant of history and have no idea about the atrocities committed in its name. The Dark Ages and Inquisition in Europe, the invasion of Goa in India, the genocides in Latin America and Africa etc. Thank goodness it's on the back foot in the world
A document developed in times of great ignorance which time has exposed and as with all written constitutions shackles its adherents to the ignorance of those former times, witness the outdated erroneous US constitution and the problems that creates for not only the US but the wider world as well, and it is entirely inappropriate for such a document to be forced on times with which it no longer fits. Time only moves in one direction. Endeavouring to hold back enlightenment that comes with time, though seldom in any linear manner, is utterly futile but worse it is damaging and destructive.
We on the outside, enjoy the romance and lovemaking between Jews and Gentiles, Shia and Sunnis, especially when they all descend from the same Family Tree. We watch with glee, the face off between those "Judeo-Christians" representing the onus of "White man's burden", and those carrying the burden of spreading Allah's message. We now understand the meaning of "Clash of Civilizations"
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@@puraLusa only those of a diverse gender can understand this
@@PJ-yp3vb that's a full troll - mixing culture wars with geopolitics. Funny 😂
@@puraLusa And you are innocent enough to think that they are different
@@PJ-yp3vb more confusing mess. Is that an atempt at ad-hominem? 🤣
He's not a friend.
Salami A-Lay Cum
Feliznavidad
Religion its so blatant and obvious can we all remember when we were young. Fairytales need i say more
Someone needs to stop clearing their throat. It is rude as hell.
don't you like islamic Egypt Maajid?
Egypt isn't islamic. It's non oficial military dictatorship.
No he was the prophet what nonsense bullshit 😅
He never talks about the subversive talmudic dogma.
Neoconservative propaganda 🕊️❤️🙏☘️
Correction. 9-11 was planned in Germany not Afghanistan
Maajid Nawaz, you are mistaken 9/11 was a demolition inside job, not planned in Afghanistan? Ha ha
Where do you get your weed!?
Beautiful propaganda boys. Let us know how you channel is finance.
@gregorytremain4086: If you leave Islam due to moral discourse then don’t turn to a religion that has lower/no morals. "The long and short of it is that I became convinced that atheism implies amorality; and since I am an atheist, I must therefore embrace amorality ... I experienced my shocking epiphany that religious fundamentalists are correct; without God there is no morality." -Joel Marks, Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, U. of New Haven; An Amoral Manifesto, 2010. @Frst2nxt: Rather than a Single Commandment to Muhammad to Do Right or not do Wrong, there are Commands for him to Allow Himself Every Temptation, and he Gave These Commandments to Himself, and Yet We Must Follow His Example and Evil?
"steelman" ???? Why is this Islamist tryin to change the English language.their is no such word 😂