How to Properly Prepare a Brand New Raw Plastic Bumper!
2019 ж. 19 Мау.
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IG: Acura_Painter
Prep:
Plastic Prep solution
Scuff stuff
Gray scuff Pad
Paint:
Adhesion Promoter
Sealer
Base
Clear
Guns:
Tekna Copper 1.3
WS400 1.3
IG: Acura_Painter
Prep:
Plastic Prep solution
Scuff stuff
Gray scuff Pad
Paint:
Adhesion Promoter
Sealer
Base
Clear
Guns:
Tekna Copper 1.3
WS400 1.3
New Subscriber. Never done auto body work but have plans to do so. I came across your channel and have been looking at your videos, in which all are very informative.
Thanks for the molding agent information learning never stops
Thanks again Brian for yet another masterclass in not only spraying techniques, but preparation and most importantly colour matching. You obviously have a good eye for that too! Willing to take the time to get it right. After all it must be right, because (nearly) everybody notices and criticises mistakes, no matter how small, without commending the perfect hard work. Enough said. Keep up the good work!
Thanks !!
@@PaintSociety what can I use to clean if i dont have Scuff Stuff?
Great job Brian as usual.
Great job buddy colours come out fine :) I feel your pain though as sometimes it can take a few hours colour matching especially waterbase paints I use.only get a true reading once based and cleared :)
I work at a Toyota dealership as a painter in Finland and I work with these new raw plastic bumpers pretty much every week. I've worked there for about 2-3 months now. I pretty much only do prepwork because I'm a newly graduated car painter from vocational school. We use PPG products so our methods are a bit different. We actually scuff the surface with degreaser and a shop towel. So we use it as a scotch pad in a way. That gets it scuffed enough for the paint products to stick but it isn't too scuffed and we don't have deep scratches. It also removes all the dirt from the surface too. Then it goes to the paint booth were we usually degrease it once again. Then I (not everyone) use DX-103 antistatic liquid and wipe the bumper with that. The antistatic liquid removes all the static electricity. Then we put on D820 adheasion promoter just like you did. And then we put on DP 4000 wet on wet primer that has been thinned with D8740 plastic thinner stuff (don't know what to call it but it's thinner). And then paint. And I guess it's a working technique because I've never heard of any warranty resprays or anything like that. It's very refreshing to see how other people do prep work and painting on cars.
Ducktapejesus yup. Pretty much the same way. Thats dx103 is strong stuff but works well to remove static. Your methods are proper!
@@PaintSociety what can I use to clean if i dont have Scuff Stuff?
“If I had a white shirt get dirty” guy was gang gang ! Lol lol 😂!
Great info , great job as always, thanks again
Video ideas: cutting in jams, sides and things like grills with lots of corners, hard to reach, surfaces. Strategies, prep, sequences. Talk a little about bases, vs effect coats vs clears. How does setup, technique change. What about approaches to different colors. Painting plastics, especially color changes and repairs to textured surfaces. Next, buffing & color sanding. Minor touch ups (chip or scratch). Insulation precautions to avoid chips, scratches etc. Cleaning gun. More on gun choice as one starts to edge past DIY or have money to burn as a weekend warrior. Id also build on home shop painting theme. We experience harsher environments. How to mitigate. As long as you're not pushing unnecessary stuff, products you personally use is great to see. After one video, I bought the IPH 400 and the orange cap. You should get credit. I've taken 4 pages of notes from your channel. I think you've got real talent as a painter, but just as much as a personality and instructor. I think your channel will take off. You have what it takes.
Thanks so much. I want to let you know that I have screen shot your comment and will be using it to create future videos. I appreciate your kind words toward me and I am so happy it’s helping. Love the fact that you took notes.
You make my life a little bit easier brother, Saludos desde San Juan Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
One of my favorite videos please include depak in some more videos!!!!!!! Plssssss
I was going to have some bumpers painted but I see it’s best to have them painted and installed that way they have the car and can match it good. Was going to install bumpers myself
Great video Brian! Very Informative. I'm trying to DIY paint my new rocker panel guard (OEM). It is possible to achieve this level of finish with spray can paints & lacquer? Also how well would you say the spray cans match with the original paint? I need to paint it to 040 super white.
Hey Brian great information and great video bro hey it like the 1820 mark you said something about the second coat for UV protection what is that about? Thanks bro
Gracias por los vídeos , ayudan mucho , apenas estoy empezando a pintar mis carros en mi garage
Very professional done.
Another nice job, great quality repair.
Hi Brian great explanation on your videos Whats the name of the adhesion promoter that you use?
Would love to see a video on repainting a bumper cover that was freshly painted but failed. I just got my car back from the body shop after an accident and the paint is cracking 2 days later. I want to paint myself but would love to see a solid tutorial for stripping the paint off and prepping to spray.
bring it back
When matching color's I put some wax and grease remover in a spray bottle and spray wax and grease remover on test panel gives you that clear coat look so you can really see how it matches
ur video's r a help thanks I'm from Chicago half Sicilian.
You got a good eye for that.. I did see that needing black
The surface of the plastic becomes what is called tribocharged from the build up if static due to rubbing. One way to remove the static from a surface is to blow ionized air on to the surface. that charge on that bumper could be upwards of 60,000 volts! to put that in perspective a shock in your finger takes about 2000 volts to feel it.
What’s the psi do you use on all the spring steps? Thanks OregonState 🤘🏼
Hey Brian. If you had a new fiberglass bumper, would you need to use a special cleaner to wipe it down first kind of like the raw plastic cleaner?
Hey Brian, What's a good clear coat to use for spot jobs in a collision shop? Or what clear coats that you use?
I have a question when it is convenient. What was the PSI at the gun when you sprayed the clear? That seems like a tremendous amount of overspray and bounce back. Not saying anything bad just asking. Thanks.
Chingon video!!🤙🏻
Kike_414 thanks for the view !
I bought the adhesion promoter plus sealer by DI (123Q ) do need a primer or can I go straight to base ? Thanks for all the help throughout the videos !!
Does the adhesion promoter take care of the flexation needed when painting plastic.if yes great, if not what is done to handle the bond when it comes to flexation.
Talking to local body shops, they recommend using a flexible primer on bumpers.
I'm amazed at your ability to look at the two colors and know what color to add to make them match. I work in the Copying/Scanning industry and getting colors to match has been a problem for me. Do you have any tools such as a Spectrophotometer to help in matching colors, or is it all by eye?
Yes we do but by eye is smarter then any camera
@@PaintSociety what can I use to clean if i dont have Scuff Stuff?
Hey I was just wondering can you fill over adhesion primer? There was a scratch on my bumper bar and I heard filler doesn’t stick to raw plastic well so I planned on laying some adhesion primer down then filling it then putting more adhesion primer down then base coat? Would that work or would I need to put primer over the filler now?
Hi Brian I'm curious I have an aftermarket bumper that comes premiered do I need to seal it or is that just for raw unprimed bumpers, thanks 👍
Can you get the sealer in an aerosol can? Sorry for a novice question, but I’m trying to do a rattle can paint job for a friend and I didn’t quite realize all the extra steps with plastic vs metal. I also don’t have a paint gun
Nicely Done
Do you need to use adhesion promoter on a bumper that is already painted? Or what steps would need to be removed/skipped over if one has a bumper that is in good condition but you're just looking to change the color? Your vids are good and ty for putting the steps in the description.
Ad. Pro is never a bad idea but only needed on bare Plastic. Meaning if you’re sanding and you go down to the plastic. For just a color change you can sand with 600 and seal and paint.
Hello I am just getting into painting, how would you prep a fiberglass bumper?
I noticed you didn't put any kind of clear over to darken the base. I like the clear plastic paint cards . shoot my base on and flip the card over. Then check it. Some painters use spray on wax and grease remover for the clear coat.
At 17:28 ... the flowing of the contour is where it’s at 👌🏻
Thanks for a lovely video. I have learned so much from this video. Just a quick question, After applying the sealer, do you have to sand the sealer to flat it down like you do for primer before applying the base coat. Sorry if i am asking something silly. Thank you
Sealer is meant to Jay super smooth. Just put base right over it.
@@PaintSociety Thank you so much. This is something new i have learnt today. Keep posting more videos for us.
Thanking you for this video
You’re welcome!
were the auto prep videos as a detailer at a bodyshop trying to get into prep any good channels or new videos
Is there a need to use a flex additive on a repaint, or just on new plastic?
Hello, I got a non painted new fairing kit for my motorcycle and I put Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 primer first and didn't put the Adhesion Promoter. Can I put it after the primer or just paint the base coat?
Kyle is going to have 1 clean DC5 integra!Lucky👍!
DC2 not DC5.
I have really been learning alot... Wish I could sen you some of my work..
That’s great to hear!
Yea thanks man!
After scuffing and cleaning can bulldog adhesion promoter be applied, then base and clear?
What would you say is a fair price to paint a 2013 Prius raw rear bumper ?has a little pearl to it.
New subscriber! Great content. Can you share with me the steps to paint a bumper cover that comes with primer already sprayed? I recon I would need to redo the primer as I did the tape test and the primer lifted exposing black from the raw bumper. If you can explain the process I would appreciate it greatly. Keep up the good content meistro!
I can make a video but pretty much you sand with 400’ seal and primer.
@@PaintSociety if you make a video that would be very nice of you!
@@PaintSociety also you mentioned seal and then prime. What kind of sealer and primer do I use? Are these 2 separate products or is the sealer and primer the same thing?
Do you have any videos that might provide a tip on painting bumpers with narrow deep cone-shaped pockets? For example, fog lights on trucks tend to have them
To paint deep pockets you need to be able to gain tight control over where and how much you spray, so you'll want to narrow the fan right down and reduce the amount of fluid. You can always apply more paint but it's very hard to take it back off again! Use the narrow fan to spray in a controlled manner, then build the paint up bit by bit until you achieve full coverage of the entire pocket area.
What about a flexible fiber glass bumper?
Do you have a diy trick to make it clear from being static? Sorry for the bad spelling. Greetz from The Netherlands.
If you are a DIY'er and have a can mixed up for you, what should you do to make sure you can actually match that color? What should you keep on hand?
Do a spray out but if a bumper being a spot on match is your goal just blend the fenders or quarter panels
This is my next job. Front bumper cover 🇺🇸
What is equivalent to U-POL UPLUP7061 Flexible High Density Black Filler for Plastics/Plastic Bumpers Black, in 20oz? It is Super expensive at $65+ for 20oz! Anything else recommended for filling plastic flexible bumpers like this UPol? I like that the filler is Black too... and for flexible glazing putties THE EVERCOAT at nearly 80-$100 for 30oz is crazy too so the USC 77704 Flexible Bumper Putty at $15~$20 for 8oz, as well as the Upol Dolphin UPLUP 0658 at $37 for 16 oz, and CREST: 32 oz. Porpoise Putty (Flexible Polyester Glazing Putty), Extra BU-FF for $52 all seem like a valid choice.... Also What camera are you using? Its nice footage!
So you dont have to use primer its either a sealer or a primer?
Here I am thinking painting and prep was the hard part. But the color match process is a big deal when doing replacement panels. Good eyes.
I have learned from my mistakes. Can’t trust the chip. Mixed that color twice before realizing it just need some tinting. The video started as a plastic prep bumper and turned into a color matching video haha
Paint Society bro any gun the you recommend that you say wow that is a damn slick sealer
Sometimes they put more thinner the reducer to change the color but I would like to see it in 2 years lol
I like high pressure also depending on the orange pill but you don't explain that do you lol
What sealer did you use on the raw plastic bumper ?
what can I use to clean if i dont have Scuff Stuff?
Are you able to paint plastic without flex additive??
You use some cool tool what was the small sander and what was the polisher you used
Cornwell 3 inch DA and Milwaukee buffer
Question might be stupid: if you work for Acura how come you are working for other brands?
How do I get out scratches in the plastic? I don't want to scuff to hard in one spot
is there another way to remove the static without that de static tool? im about to start prepping mine for paint and would like to know. thanks!
Then make raw plastic cleaner which does
Brian ,that antistat gun, wich brand is that? Whats the price and where can i buy one ? Best regards from the Netherlands
I got. One from autobodytoolmart.com for around $750. It’s called a neutralizer
Thanks
Do you add a flex agent when doing the plastic bumper covers?
Yes. Depending on the clear
Silly question, is that an OEM fender liner or aftermarket? If so, what are your experiences with aftermarket fender lining? Trying to weigh out my options, aftermarket is half the cost ($60 vs $136)
One. Aftermarket fender liners can be real tough because they don’t always line up. It’s really hit and miss
@@PaintSociety Thanks Brian, I just went with OEM. If the aftermarket one ends up falling off, I would have spent the same amount of money if not more replacing them again. If I could subscribe twice I would! I got notifications on for your videos :)
Adding black tie darken a color at least in the rm paint is a no you should add based on the color wheel
Help. I have a pre primered abs bumper from ebay and the primer that is on there i dont trust and its not fully covering everything. Can i sand it down some and still spray adhesion promoter on there and then primer? Thanks
Yes
I think the ability to properly color match is what separates the good from the great.
Im here to give you a like ! 🙏🏼
Thank you!!
Is there another option to de-static the plastic bumper if one doesn't have stat gun?
They sell raw plastic cleaner. Will do the same thing
Is there any way to check if a bumper is primed already? And after you clean with scuff stuff do you degrease or just wash off the scuff stuff and its ready to apply adhesion promoter? Thanks in advance.
Scuff it with 400 and if black comes off. It is primered
Scuff it with 400 and if black comes off. It is primered
Brian do you need to scuff sealer? What if it sets a few days?
You can and esp if it sets a few daysb
What's the cost for a job like this?
What sealer can i use
Hey Brian! Currently I am s.ck'n a lot of a raw bumper. I Scuffed , cleaned, and painted with sealer but it peels of just by blowing air. What a work to get it off... Now I am pretty upset. I learn the hard way now :)
Use adhesion promoter
so i got a bumper and i kinda went through to the plastic. can i spray paint directly over it. does that small spot have to be primed ?
Primered.
Okay thanks!
Plastic bumpers usually come out different tone color cause of the static not 100 percent of it come off it come right back on as soon as you start spraying your gun
Always different
@@PaintSociety love your videos man !💪
BoostDeep Thanks!
What about bulldog adhesion promoter is it good or should I stay away from that.. someone told me it was crap , that someone likes to cut corners I want to know from somebody that knows for sure.
Stay away. It always gives a weird reaction of the paint
@@PaintSociety thanks brother, love your videos I have really learned alot from you.👍
I’m not gonna tell you the right stuff to use, just don’t use Bulldog.
Do you guys always assembly on the lifts.
Sometimes.
Adhesion promoter is like plastic primer right??
Yes
What’s going on paint society !? I have this task I want to accomplish at home. I recently got a solvent based primer bumper and I have started prepping it by cleaning it with lacquer thinner (not sure if it was a good idea). My wiping towel seems to be getting black every time I go to wipe. Did I mess up by cleaning with lacquer thinner ?
Most likely you got a cheap aftermarket bumper with a low grade primer. You shouldn’t use lacquer thinner because it is stripping the primer. You actually could have just washed and cleaned at the same time by using a soapy water and a gray scuff pad. Then hose it all down. You can use a soap called scuff stuff.
Also keep in mind in this video the bumper was raw plastic with no primer. You bumper has primer already
What should I do know after I have already wiped off the entire bumper with lacquer thinner ?
Nzane Photography its not the end of the work. It’s probably good that you got it off. Make sure you get it all off then just scuff it with a gray pad lightly. And you then can follow the steps in the video because the bumper will be raw
Paint Society 10 4 thank you for your help I really appreciate it !
Hey Brian that’s great on a professional level but what about the diy guys. Scuff stuff is expensive the Rm 902 is real expensive. Show us a cheap method for guys in the garage.
When I first read this I thought I was gonna see a price of 80-100 dollars this isn’t that expensive
Great job! Next tim e Pat him with wet paint.
This sealer is normale paint , thankyou
Do you ever get any clear coat runs?
All the time
What kind of sealer did you use?
2k urethane
Was there no primer on the raw bumper?
He used “sealer.” Just go buy some “sealer” and your good to go.
Nice !!! What camera are you using quality is amazing
Hey! Thanks! Hero 7 black
can i make a video request? Maybe you could do a separate video, or even include it in a video where you already have a job to spray-- could you do a paint gun run through, or tutorial? Maybe go through the types of spray guns you use, and which one you use for which each step such as a high build primer gun, a sealer gun, a basecoat gun, a clearcoat gun. what size nozzle/needle tips on each. HVLP or LVLP? Your air pressure at the wall and your air pressure at the nozzle for the different materials of paint (primer, base, clear). How to set up your spray pattern with the amount of air and fluid to get ideal atomization. And maybe even a proper gun cleaning walk through. Are you cleaning your guns with a branded or off the shelf solvent based cleaner? or are you running straight solvent through them? or do you have a waterbase cleaner or just water? etc etc.... all the ins and outs of just spray guns.
thisduderockz sure thing. Give me some time to plan in set that up. By the first of the month I have something.
@@PaintSociety I have watched your videos and I have notice you use different products depending on the job you are performing. Because of your experience and knowledge I think sometimes you know the process of which one to use as second nature. As a beginner I like simplifying concepts to feel more encourage to do the job. I think it would also be beneficial for the viewers to have a video without you having to paint a car where you talk about different scenarios about when to use different agents/products for the type of job to be used as begginer guide to just start painting. Just as a quick example when I was watching the video I saw you were color matching the color but I thought the manufacturer already provides the color code located on the trunk or door jam. I just get confused since I am beginner and I don't have the knowledge or the means to combine different paint colors. I would really appreciate your time if you can create that type of video. I am a really fan of your videos. Never stop filming. Amazing videos! Thank you for the time you put on creating videos!
How do you remove static without a $800 static gun?
They sell anti static wipes
Do you have to use a flex additive
Yes
Duh. It’s common sense. That’s why he didn’t mention it.
what kind of sealer?
2k urethane
How much would a repair like this cost?
Around $450
@@PaintSociety thank you for the fast reply. I bought a bumper off Amazon and got a quote from a local paint shop. They said around $300 but I’m just worried they won’t prep it and we’ll as you did. It might be one of those “you get what you paid for “ type deals
Just make sure you get warranty
Kenya is locked 🔐 in,,,,🇰🇪🇰🇪
How you setting up your supernova? Awesome video.
Hey! Go to “how to get clean jobs” video and at the end I show you how to setup it
When a when dont you use sealer on a plastic bumper..