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Moonton: we still need to nerf her, i mean look at this video
Ikr😂😂😂😂
Avarage hero in a good hands seems OP, try playing her yourself against other meta marksman right now you'll see she's weak right now.
From one of the best marksman to one of the lowest winrate in MG marksman
Karrie also having one of the lowest win rate in MG rank, but she is popular then wanwan a lot😂. But I can't deny that Karrie is losing her popularity cuz nerf defense items really hits her so hard
She got the kalista treatment. Like kalista she op on hit movement MM but after several tournament apperance she now nerf to the ground
@@raynalldoprimeyeah I remember her becoming broken in pro play after buffs.
@@tanlisheng2869No it doesn't hit her in the slightest, before the def item nerf other mms cannot do the same. I said before, you can do mage on-hit like karrie and have similar results or better than the popular build.
I mean...finally this betch is almost useless
0:23 Pain to watch.
Mid : you want maniac? Give me 50 dias first 😂
Wanwan is so hard to use rn cuz she's pretty easy to counter that even Layla is a better option...
Layla is the option right now......
Skill issue
Layla is a good mm though, wdym?
@@_.zxc._ after the range nerf layla can poke her now, unlike before
Is either the buff makes her meta or the nerf makes her forgotten 😅
There are some heroes that can't be balanced because of their kit.Same goes for natalia...
@@brilliantineethats the general issue with some of these heroes that got nerfed to the ground because of a single adjustment. They're kits are too straightforward and simple to understand and execute which is why any huge buff is given to a hero like argus or wanwan, they would end up being a prio pick/prio ban and get nerfed to the ground afterwards
@@slimslimee4411 like masha, from unknown to meta 3 punch woman
@@slimslimee4411Literally Masha. She went from an forgotten burst fighter to an FLEX burst fighter real quick.
"Fredrinn having one of them best kit in the game" Moonton: *"Imma pretend to not see that"* and indirectly buff fredrinn with the new thunderbelt and queen wing
From the famous MM turned into stay in cave mm 🗿🗿
It's better if they revert all the nerfs but bring back her old 4marks before activating the ult, that mechanic drew a line between noobies and wanwan gods
They made her easier to use but she's got nerf real bad
Bringing back the 4 marks doesn't fix her issue. The attack assist setting is the cause from the first place.
Wanwan Just need a Balancing,not Overnerf(Helcurt Treatment at 2017-2019) Or just make her Jump affected to slow effects
make sense, but makes a bit hard to ml's staff. they need to coding new coding if they want to decrease her jump based on slow effect
Maybe her sidestep need enemy to hit by her auto atk otherwise she can sidestep endlessly
Bro just bring back the 4 marks..it's that simple
@@Blacktruthz ye Like if that happens It just mean that when normal slow effect her atk speed will reduce too And then counter her with anti atak speed She will def be forgotten Im an ex wan2 main Just cant handle the nerf
Just remove cc immunity in her second skill
They should reverted all her nerfs and replace them with 4 mark on passive.Thats the only way to make her balanced.
I like that idea, that way only very good players would play her and that way they could keep her strong. It's kinda dumb to make her easier to play while making her super weak and unreliable to win a game most of the time
I disagree. The only way to "balance" her is to lower her ult's potential. As long as she has the ability to potentially wipe out everyone with her ult, she's never gonna be "balanced."
@@teemimika7105Yea, it could be better, she likely gets obliterated by aulus.
@@Ah-wz6nn and we balance that by giving her moe targets to hit before activating ult, the old 4 mark on NSEW direction was way better than the one we have. The NSEW was also better than the 4 mark which had three on the front and a giant one on the back
They should have nerf the inspire instead.
0:50 How can you fly that long?
Back when she can use ult on anyone if one of the enemy has weakened mark 🗿
Wanwan the only hero who is flying in ult but can't cross walls🤡
If I remember she can Cross walls before I used her and I remember I can Cross walls but I think moonton removed it without noticing by anyone that she can Cross to the walls
she can jump over walls now, not all walls tho
Yeah atleast make this her buff
That's why Sky Piercer exists for one reason: to make heroes like Wanwan (killing enemies with ter ultimate if done properly) more viable
Moonton: Helcurt is way too op so let's nerf wanwan
I remember when Valentina doesn’t need to do stacks to use ww ultimate. It was so broken, i used to build Marksmen things, and then using ww ultimate and inspire. It was totally broken
She used to be perfectly balanced..... but moonton HAD to buff to sell her skin....
curse you M World Skins
A farewell indeed.
hey, 20hrs left and i havent picked which skin at last encore event. i dont have all so which is the best to pick?
Build pls. I’m still using trinity build wanwan 😢 but its good ngl even after atkspd nerf.
What spell casted all of the doom Wanwan is experiencing? *The three mark passive* . they should've stopped at allowing her ult to crit. However, this particular change that "aims to lessen the burden of using Wanwan" makes all hell break loose. At that time, the only thing that is keeping Wanwan at bay is the difficulty in triggering her ult which is compensated by how impactful her ultimate is. And what do you expect when you try to risk a hero's difficulty of using with extreme payoff? Yes, A TON OF NERFS which kills Wanwan.
Hello hororochan how do you make those thumbnails what app do you use
Just wanna ask, is anyone having problems with Gloo where he isn't healing from his 1st skill? Like, zero healing?
When you're a marksmen there's to viable playstyle, when your a marksmen who doesn't do crazy bursty dmg then you play passively and with supports or tanks, when you're a marksmen with burst then you can play alot more aggressive and probably delete the enemy before they can respond, Wanwan can't burst and has to get upclose to you so she can have an ultimate, you can even do tanky because her whole passive needs atk speed, and she gets bursted way too fast before she can access her ult.
It all started in the 5-1-5 event....
Coincidence
Wanwan main here, They say that the nerfs dont really affect her that much but the difference is noticeable, she feels super clunky to play now and slow and can get bodied even at early game.
I wish they'd just return her to the old one where she needs to hit 4 weakness points along with every adjustments they made.
I literally saw this before a minute this was uploaded
Watching Horororo Chan playing I also want to play wan wan.❤
The title should be "the ex most nerfed marksman" XD
tank brody, dhs claude too. theyre really scary back then
Wanwan Forgotten Arc Part 2, Literally.
Can you show us the new Argus passive animation please (advanced server)
Hororo chan upload vidio about wanwan Moonton: lets nerf wan wan 🗣️🔥
kinda hard to use her rn cause of the nerfs and the new dominance ice
Should increase her base atk and atk spd.
❤
From *"Everyone is Scared"* to *"Everyone used to be Scared."*
tbh wanwan state rn is kinda good no need tweaks probably increasing her ult range a bit?
bruh she's nowhere good rn
Moonton should nerf her again with her jump can be affected by slow effects 💀 moonton should delete wanwan anyway it doesn't matters to me
Montoon: * *needs money* * - * *buffs wanwan and give her skin* * - * *nerf her again after a week* * _and the cycle continues_
@@fauzumn1029she's good
@@Buriedto wan wan 11.11 moment 💀
From META tier to Conditional tier to Generally Good tier to Playable tier to Generally Good tier again to Playable tier MM again. And the cycle will possibly continue.....again.
Her ults was OP, jst making it targetable with some sort of cc immunity would have balanced her,
Once winter truncheon or well crown Gets released wanwan is taking another indirect nerf since everyone can build it now anyone can just use it and waste her ult then since she has mediocre damage without ult everyone can just jump her
Before her major buff, she was OP, only known to those who main her.
Same goes for masha
and still, she can easily kill 5 people using only her ult WW will never be balanced, is either broken, trash or a future rework
They badly need to limit the potential of her ultimate. Whether we like it or not, she is going to be a priority ban/pick or she is going to be buried. There's no middle ground for her as long as she can wipe out a team.
Easily? You must have never used her because she can hardly kill 1 or 2 unless the enemy is badly feeding and with the upcoming winter crown, her ult will instantly become useless once fighters and assassins get their hands on it
yes. they nerfed her toooo much😢
Wanwan pick just doesn’t work against tank jungle pick meta. you can’t reach backline w your ult
you don't need to. just make sure their hp is low enough so that you can finish them with ult and proceed to destroy the backline with the same ult
it all started with that goddamn 3 target points she was at her most perfect performance cuz almost no one used her then she became easier and became meta
No. They made wanwan ulti into 3 marks requirement is just a coincidence. The main cause of wanwan suffering from all the nerfs is because the new attack setting which is a huge indirect buff to wanwan where disabling it allows wanwan to jump even enemies are outside her basic attack range and can be used for travelling without getting hindered by unnecessary nearby creeps or targets
@@_.zxc._ BRO DO U EVEN PLAY WANWAN?????
@@MLBB_Eboade I'VE BEEN PLAYING WANWAN SINCE RELEASE WHERE HER ULTI DOESN'T TRIGGER BASIC ATTACK EFFECTS THAT TIME!!! YOU CLEARLY LACK OBSERVATIONS!!
@@_.zxc._ AND U CLEARLY LACK SOME SENSE. ITS UNDENIABLE THAT ATTACK ASSIST IS ONE OF THE CAUSES, BUT SO IS THE 3 MARKS, IT WHAT MAKES HER GO IMMUNE FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS 4 MARKS!!!
@@MLBB_Eboade YOU CAN'T ASSUME THE THREE MARKS ARE EASIER BECAUSE THE HITBOX BEHIND IS SHORTER THAN IT WAS IN 4 MARKS. BESIDES AN INTERMEDIATE LEVEL WANWAN USER CAN ACTIVATE ULTI IN 3 MARKS FAST AS IN 4 MARKS. THE FASTER ACTIVATION OF ULTI ISN'T THE MAIN PROBLEM TO NON-MARKSMAN AND NON-MAGE HEROES. THE MAIN PROBLEM AGAINST WANWAN IS HOW HEROES WITH AVERAGE MOBILITY CAN CHASE OR ESCAPE IF WANWAN IS GETTING ADVANTAGE WITH THE SETTING FOR HER PASSIVE.
Wanwan is easy target to enemies that have auto aim
I think she lose got her spot light bcz back then it was the tank meta and she got a good buff
I am glad that Miya Layla is finally overtaking wanwan😆
Form the start they shouldn't have released that hero if they plan to nerft them to ground
They need to revamp her based on having 4 weakness marks except of 3, because changing it from 4 marks to 3 was the biggest mistake they ever did They really ruined her
You also have the biggest mistake on blaming the wrong matter. The main cause is the implementation of the new setting called "Attack Assist" which is a huge indirect buff that made wanwan op. where disabling it allows her passive can be used even nearby targets are outside wanwan's basic attack range that allows her to use her passive for chasing or escaping rather than just repositioning or dodging. The setting also allows wanwan to travel around the map with her passive without getting hindered by jungle creeps or other unnecessary nearby targets which made her independent boots. Her last buff before she got the 515 skin was just a coincidence. But that was never the cause.
Why not just make remove her damage immunity on her ult and just revert some of her nerfs to make her a bit balance. I guess that's the only thing that makes her op when where up against her. And if the damage immunity was removed then players will have a fighting chance against her.
*Wanwan, having a nerf streak for being the culprit of broken heroes (in moontoon's prespective at least)*
Hello! Am I the only one who finds it hard to adjust the control layout in the interface? The controls are not very accurate when you try it on the actual match
Even if she's nerfed she's still op
Rank?
As a melissa main i can easily counter Wanwan , BTW iam your big FAAAAAN🔥🔥🔥
Hey, remember when beatrix use to be meta......
I was having that beaphobia especially that I'm always using Natan. Now, I just always shred Bea like a paper
Yeah I know, she was the most popular marksman in few years ago, until revamp Lesley kicked her down. Even now Lesley is still popular than her
Even in low mid tier rank, there is not much players want her
I wonder what should they do to fully balance this hero.
Maybe make her a 1vs1 hero instead of team fight one. Her ult is pretty strong for 1vs1 already, so nerfing its teamfight capability and buffing Wanwan's other aspects should be good. I think.
Simple answer: Revert all the nerfs and give her 4 marks again. She was perfect before moonton decided to make her easier to play.
@@zackzoom87791v1 is useless since her kit is meant to be a teamfight based hero... I mean her ult is obv meant for a teamfight.. Makes her difficult to use again but rewarding. Revert her mark to 4 heck even 5 if they want and then everything else including longer jumping range, longer ult range and lower her 2nd skill cd. Let her become those high risk high reward hero
@@Toffee36125ur right bro
Removing the purify in the second skill in exchange for reverting a good amount of nerf sounds good imo
Even she got smacked with a bunch of nerfs she's still top tier
but she's not very playable in solo ranked right now tho
No shes the second lowest in everything
It depends on the player's playing skills
@@_l_am_someone_ That's literally like every hero. If you are a Lancelot main with 80% winrate and 1000+ matches of course you are gonna perform better than everyone else ☹
@@_l_am_someone_ But the amount of skills you need to actually play wanwan and the payoff is NOT worth it
situational but wanwan is the only hero who can face up a moskov in a 1v1
For me she's pretty balanced right now (but i hate the fact that wanwan now can't go through wall while she's using her ultimate)
Nowhere near balanced bruh, she got jacked so bad.
Can't say balanced. Playable tier but underperformed compared to other gold laners.
What if... Her jump length is scaled by her movement speed. That way she's forced to buy boots
so how do you think that's gonna work?
Mained wanwan since release. Her nerfs are so dumb it got to the point I just stopped playing her. Her 4 marks made her harder to play for most players who were just looking for a crazy easy dps marksman (buffed moskov). They made it easy to access her ult then nerfed her kit into the ground.
do you think it would be balanced to make her have 4 marks instead of 3 and remove the latest nerf?
@@mystical727obv
4 marks and 3 marks are just equally difficult to me since the mark behind the enemy is harder to detonate in 3 marks than in 4 marks. The main cause is the new setting called "attack assist" that made her independent to boots allowing her to use her passive for easier roaming, chasing, and escaping.
@@_.zxc._ thats kind the whole point of the dashing mechanic. It's supposed to make normal movements obsolete to her in exchange of having an ult that needs to be pre-activated
Helloo
At least she's still broken . . . . . in Magic Chess 😂
I miss the wanwan meta 🥲
If she is not nerfed,one mistake by teammate can wipe whole team out.If she is nerfed heavily she is weak.
every fed mm can wipe whole team out if they make one mistake
@@retake6977doesn't really apply to every mm since you can still escape. but you can't escape from wanwan😂
@@retake6977Nah.. Wanwan has insane mobility and purify skill. There was a reason why she used to be a prio ban even in the Pro scene.
515 skin is the reason why moonton nerfs her.
Coincidence is the word you need to know
God I hate Wanwan. Hope she'll be nerfed so much.
Phoveous user or Yin user?
Never should have made her have 3 marks, pains me to see one of the best mm become this useless due to devs touching what’s not broken
Wanwan is too op, so in this patch we changed her role from marksman >> jumping creep that gives you 200 gold
Masdha is too op so wanwan needs a nerf
You mean **FORMER**
Idk maybe why wanwan became broken was because THEY REDUCED THE AMOUNT YOU HAVE TO HIT TO GET ULT?!?!?!?!
real🗿
Wanwan in low rank 🔥 Wanwan in high rank 💀💀 ( need buff*)
Look how they massacred my girl 😢
Bring back the old wanwan (4 marks and manual pull back first skill) current meta she is dead Af
it all started with moonton's greed to make her skin a big success and gave her 3 weakness
It all started because they add the new setting called "attack assist". The latest buff before she got the 515 skin was just a coincident but never the cause
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Moonton should delete this hero because it's too ugly and trash
never scared to this little cat with my Zhask lol😂, her small range BA forced her to get inside my ultimate attack range, got burst and boom💥 she's gone! naturally ez counter 😂
Wanwan 🔥 April 30, 2024
Ban Moskov, Roger, Brody, Fredrinn, Barats, Masha (Super OP), Helcurt, Esmeralda, Ruby (Crowd control and heal are still annoying), Estes.
Me who usually bans Diggie and Fara over those heroes cause they are even more painful to deal with:
@@alemansprototypeguy Faramis are only annoying when you're playing Nana.
Wanwan deserves more nerf
- a phoveus user, probably
BUFF NATALIA
Actually, she's been nerfed again. Look at Ling, came back to the meta 😂.
But the nerf wasn't so big
even layla has higher wr than wanwan
Bet moontoon gonna nerf her next patch Moontoon: i hear wanwan in this video *clicks nerf button* Wanwan: wtf when do i get buff Moontoon: never "gives buff on layla"
Increase marks back to 4, allow her to pick the target for ult again, increase ult range, remove her jumping passive and put it into her 2nd skill instead of cc immunity. I haven't thought about this much so there might be a huge stupid issue that I missed😂
What? Remove her jumping passive? So she have to walk like others marksman?
@@Ackerman_00 no not remove, move it into skill 2 and remove the cc immunity.
@@Ackerman_00 she'll walk like others, but use skill 2 and she'll be able to jump around for a little while
@@r12j78 thats kinda nice i give u that
You got all the wrong suggestions. Just remove the attack assist setting since that's the main cause. Buffing her into 3 marks was just a coincidence
Honestly they should just revert her when she was dominating but rhis time she should be targettable and cc immune and her ult should like only her 50% from lifesteal
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Worst marksman to play rn mothefuker moonton