Are Aftermarket Intakes Even Worth It?
Want to hear your engine better and maybe make a few extra ponies in the process? Well, and intake might be just what the doctor ordered. Let that sucker breathe! Come along as Zach talks about the different types of intakes you may come across as well as some pros and cons - all while installing a new high performance intake on the Miata.
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I really love how they make it very clear in every episode that checking forums and being apart of the car community is an essential part in understanding your car.
@@coldestwaters Facts. Google is more educational then todays Colleges.
Community knowledge is important! google and an OBD reader are also super important tools.
Until you actually know what you're talking about and you realize most forums are full of very confident yet uneducated people
@@FiatMihiSecundumVerbum yes extremely true I like going to them to laugh and also sometimes you find diamonds in the rough or at least possible options or things to consider first before you jump to conclusions also if you know alot going to the forum to learn about something seems counter intuitive its like the teacher asking the class about the subject so the teacher can understand the subject
And yet they don't provide any information as to where to find the forums or community. Anyone know what the good forums are?
Imagine if this series goes on for years and he ends up with a 600 horsepower miata 😂
Considering he can either get Donut to pay for the parts, or claim them on his taxes, it's a smart business decision.
A year? It doesn't take that long to LS swap it.
That's pretty much what Happened to Phil, the Miata on Car Throttle.
"Are V12 Engines Even Worth It?"
On a miata, i think that can only be accomplished with a swap engine, would be cool af though
I like installing intakes on every vehicle, it’s nice to hear the air rush into throttle. It’s usually an immediate upgrade, but even better with a tune.
when I did mine the first time, I didn't know about the sound. got real excited when I took it for the test drive. ha
The second best sound after a supercharger jet sound :D
junk car
yea; I'd even say some cars require tune.... STIs are fairly terrible without; they'll lean out and misifire on boost with just a CAI.
@Aerogrow turbo motors are picky and you really should tune it with an intake. NA engine require minimal, if any, changes because of an intake.. just like the changes you'll notice with an intake on a NA, minimal... if any 😅😂
I think the sound is the main reason that I like them. The sound alone makes you feel like you're going faster lol. So any difference that it made is enhanced by the noise I feel. Maybe I'm weird but I never leave any of those stock air snorkel things. I always got it and have straight piping right up to the throttle body
Yup. If you consider intakes to be sound mods then you’re in the right mind set. Porsche put the Cayman GT4RS intake right behind your head and every journalist raves about the sound
It’s not just you chief
Souds faster, goes slower. Lol
Also looks better lol
"anyone want this air filter?" *throws it on the ground* Everyone: not anymore!
Came here to post exactly this. 🤣🤣🤣
Just knock the dirt off, it's still good.
👎🏻
@@williwonti jokes my friend.
5 second rule
I like how he answers the question in the first few seconds then goes through explaining why and what to get. Donut is really unmatched
No
I like when he oiled the pre-oiled filter.
Underrated comment. Made me decide if i even wanted to watch this video. Thanks
do you have to tune?
@@juliansky7989 yes
Previous owner of my Miata installed a similar intake. I absolutely hate it though because it prevents the hood from coming all the way down on that side of the car. I don't know why most people don't duct the intake into the Miata's "mouth" instead of keeping it in the warm engine bay.
Probably just added complexity not being worth it in the end. I can see how also a longer intake piping can mess with airflow and throttle response. Idk anything about Miatas but id imagine there are smaller sized cone filters available so you’d be able to close the hood properly?
@@poopsie117 there isn't an easy way to do it because of the shape of the radiator and front bracing/crash structure. It actually makes quite a difference in intake temps too, up to 40 Fahrenheit or more, so if it was easy a lot more kits would be sold for it. So everyone is out there running warm air intakes
@@GetOffMyLog to be fair, 99.999999% of CAI actually take away from the well engineered intakes that actually suck cold air from the factory and give you nice warm air that reduces your engines power.
there's a company making actual cold air intakes for the NA miatas now (I think it's napp performance) but the problem is they're more expensive than the Racing Beat one is (like $400 vs like $330) and it doesn't even come with a filter, only the pipes. IDK how much power they're making compared to other intakes, but honestly I'll save the extra $70+filter cost to just get a kit that is complete and hang on to the extra money in the turbo kit fund :)
@@alaindelon5398 Most people who work on cars don't fabricate their own parts though.
He does a great job of breaking down the performance and relevance of specific parts for viewers who might not be as “car savvy” to understand the functionality, much appreciated
If your filter is clogged/dirty the car just has allergies.
Air filter? I believe you mean the head! My honda had aftermarket head and intake!
The car has "Carona Virus" 😂
Emanuel Ruiz Coughin = coffin
It's Just Sten - Clever
common mistake - lmfao good one
It’s like if Science Garage and ChrisFix had a kid and made Money Pit
They can never replace Bart
Chris Fix is more specific
Miss Science Garage so much. These small clips are ok but still,missing bart
LOL, kind of. (:
What happened to Bart ?
Worth noting that K&N filters are less restrictive and let more particles in. On a racecar that you take out on weekends, sure. But if you want to use your vehicle for as long as mechanically possible, a normal disposable paper air filter would be a safer choice in terms of reliability.
That really only becomes a problem if you live in dusty areas. It may also be worth noting that, because of this, reverting to stock may be worth it when roads are salted.
K&N filters sounds like a nightmare used in dusty Saudi Arabia.
@@theuncanspan keep it stock if particles are a big problem
@@synthwaver7698 or keep it stock if you value not having to rebuild your engine after a dust storm
@@tomtom1541 but wheres the fun in that!
Zach is great! Technical with a splash of fun! Love the sound of a good intake!
"Money Pit" = best car modification show title ever!
Especially when he does no remotely scientific comparison testing and is just throwing on more expensive parts
It's a slap in the face towards Scotty Kilmer
Then wtf's donut midia?
Might Car Mods, and Roadkill...
I was thinking shitbox adventures would work too
5:13 this is what I imagine dating a singer would be like
Lol
LMAO i died
such a shitpost, I love it
My sides...
You’re killing me. XD
I love the zoom-in on knocking the box over at 4:46 and the "shooting" the bolt off. As for intakes, it really depends on the vehicle and the kit, and there's plenty of room for aftermarket stuff to do more harm than good. My car is a 96 Camaro with a 3800 V6, and according to some online forums, the earlier year intakes like mine have somewhat restrictive air boxes, but the newer ones (I think 98+) are better. So I took all that out and put a double-coned air filter right onto the intake manifold, no tubing or adapters or anything. I'm not getting any of the air box resonance stuff, but I get some performance with weight reduction, if nothing else.
On my 95 4runner I put on a cold air intake and it helped a lot! Made it sound better, and gave a bit of extra power. Plus it was easy to clean and put back rather than buying a new filter each time
The gun shot when he was using the drill made me jump. I thought he shorted the battery
Yep it did !
@7:27 If you wonder what we're talking about.
I had to re-watch it to make sure I saw what I thought I saw
Battery is in the rear of the miata
SAME
RIP to the cruise control wiring that never got replaced😂
it got "relocated"
When I bought this I didn’t realize u had to relocate the cruise control, so I jus pulled it out
Seriously......who actually needs cruise control?
@@noseyparker6622 Cruise control is awesome to have. I'd be willing to pay a couple hundred bucks to get it in my car.
Luuk Volkering I’ve had it in a few cars that I’ve owned.....never once used it 😂
Answer = Yes
I've seen this video about 15 times because this is an awesome series to watch. But every time I watch it, I am always caught off guard with the gunshot. That has to be the best edit I have ever seen! It's so funny and I never expect it which makes it even better!
I had to replay thought I was tripping 😂😂 🔫 💥🤯
but my Cobb intake comes with a cool sticker and makes whooshing noises!
It also helps your engine go knock knock! Put the stock one back on. It can handle up to 400hp just fine and if you're making that kind of power in a Subaru then you've already got the support for the intake. Subarus hate aftermarket intakes.
If you tune for cobb intake it will be fine
@@SavouryLobster never add any part without tuning on a subaru. Just slapping an intake and bov on is a good way to blow up
@@SavouryLobster Yup, that's the issue, people get the intake separately without a tune. With Subaru's you really just need to do your exhaust, intake, everything you want done on the same day, then pay for a single tune, otherwise there's potentially issues with them leaning out (I know the older 2.5's are lean enough with the crappy stock tune as it is); I don't miss the cost of owning a wrx, but it was a fun vehicle, just a money pit to do everything correctly, so much so, you're better off just buying the car you really want. I ended up going 370z, yeap, N/A boring, but it handles like a dream with just an upgraded front swaybar, and is only slightly slower than the wrx > 110mph ( I had a blouch 20g on the wrx). Don't miss the expensive clutch upgrades, tmic heat soak issues, crappy brakes, never ending coilover/alignment adjustments on the wrx (it's just never going to handle like you want it to, short of if you spend the extra $$ on the sti and get the better transmission and locking center diff). Overall it was some give/take, but I now have much better control over costs with the NIssan, even though Nissan is likely to go out of business right now they way it's being ran into the ground!! I think if the FRS/BRZ goes Turbo, that'll be one fun power to weight ratio setup from the factory along with obviously much better handling than both the Z and the wrx, so that's on the radar for the next fun to drive daily, but it'll just be intake/exhaust/stage II tune and that's that.
@@SavouryLobster FALSE
Everyone knows that a "cold air intake" adds +100hp to any car! 😁😂
Performance spark plugs add another 50!
Didnt they say stickers add 1hp to 5hp?
@@doggofrs9651 no, 15hp at least
Add performance badge like TRD +15hp
@@opasoca4954 yep, each sticker is 15hp easy!
I had the RB intake, with RB headers and muffler on my NB2 and it sounded amazing. Have that 1.8 a nice rumble, almost like a wrx. Loved it
Thank you so very much for EXPLAINING what you were doing and why! What a difference! I'm upgrading asap! You rock dude! Good humor too! Cheers!
That shot tho. Had to go back and make sure the drill didn’t actually blow up
a person nowadays can't even say "more power" without thinking of about James
Nah, Jeremy
@@wouterhoogers2615 you mean orangutan?
Or imagen his voice Everytime that you see " Moore Pooweer baabe
When you are making power: MO POWA BAYBEH When you have power: POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER clearly Clarkson knows whats up
When I think more power, I think SpongeBob with the ray gun.
Scotty woulda said: “DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY”😅😂🤣
You mean there are people who still listen to Scotty? I stopped a couple of years ago. 😂
@@robo08ify cope
Yeah, I stopped watching that old yeller years ago
I get better mileage with my cold air intake on my 09 scion tc.
Don't these aftermarket air filters, make the check engine light come on??
Saw a very thorough analysis comparing air filters. It's true that more porous filters provide a small boost in performance, however, they also allow a corresponding increase in particles getting into the engine. So, the tradeoff is a 1/10 or 2/10ths in 0-60 time, but more engine wear. No free lunch.
Not gonna lie. When he said "listen to this" I was expecting them to sub in some 800hp car as a joke and then play us the real sound. That intake made way more of a difference than I had expected.
$245 for just that? Catch me getting a shift piece of 3 in u pipe and a filter for less than 100
It's like a practical version of Science Garage, I like it.
I still miss science garage and Bart. Was very entertaining and informative. Learned more from science garage than i do in science class in school.
@@zerixor8134 #BringBackBart
@@nfinzer22 He's on paternity leave I think.
@@zerixor8134 lol then you must either be really dumb or just didn't pay much attention in school
Voxle no he’s permanently split now
My intake kit came with a "box" that surrounds the air filter. The "box" is fed air through the factory snorkel. This helps keep the filter separated from the hot engine bay and get fed cooler air from the snorkel. LOL, sounds exactly like a factory air box
That was the most awesome bachelor thing ever! Super awesome mechanic, with tools for everything, but no shop vac we use the house vacuum, lol I loved it! Your awesome!
K&N sticker adds more horsepower than a “cold air intake”
A big one across the top of the windscreen is like adding a turbo
Fuck it, sounds cool
stop giving the secrets away
I mean... where is the lie
Mfrs buy a new car nd the first thing they do is watse money on a new intake that does fuck all for performance
You should do a “how to fill up your own gas tank” for people in Oregon
I was going to move to an area near Bend, Oregon but l decided against it once l discovered you can't pump your own gas there.
@@wvusmc that’s the whole reason? I was against it in the beginning too but now I like it as long as the gas station isn’t busy
@@BlackD69 when I filled up my rental car before I went to the airport the gas station attendant disappeared for some time before he returned with my credit card. When l got home and tried to use my card it was denied. Dude stole my credit card info and made a bunch of online purchases so that sort of did it for me. It's not really the reason but that's my excuse. I still visit that area once a year, though. I just pay with cash. New Jersey has the same law. I live in a college town where there's a bunch of students from NJ and I've had to show someone a couple of times how to use the pumps. Weird law.
@@wvusmc jeez! That’s a much better reason!
We were driving from British Columbia to California years ago,we were just over the border in northern Cali and were getting gas. In the span of five minutes,I saw three drivers with Oregon plates not know how to pump fuel,they were all older people and one didn’t even know where the gas went in the car,I couldn’t believe it. Oregon isn’t that big,have they never left the state?
I really appreciate the subtitles thank you for putting the time to put them
That's what I love about trucks like the silverado. The stock filter is already in a cold air position and takes in air from in front of the radiator, so you only replace the box and filter
Zach sounding like he's finally settling into his own style of delivery and hosting. Good on you, bro.
if tomorrow he decided to quit, I legitimately would miss him on the channel. Cool dude
I was about to comment this
He is definitely being written for by the same turds who try to make everyone seem like the same.person here
@@THCv3 Bro calm tf down they're not doing a bad job at all
He’s essential to the channel now
6:19 I see a magnaflow exhaust box in the back it would Make sense to install an exhaust after an intake
Maximus Campbell on all 4 of my builds exhaust was always first. Can’t dump money into something that sounds like a vacuum
Why do I have 6 neutrals i mean some cars the stock exhaust has more than enough flow to make power so you’d be saving money
Most likely the next vid.
Koolblue yeah wasn’t the case with my cars though lol my mustangs mufflers each weighed 35 pounds so those didn’t last long
@@Koolblue900 most people do exhaust for noise
These filters has made every car I had sound "better". More or less, it has worked the best (mileage & power-wise) on all the 4 cyl & has done next to nothing for high compression 6 & 8 cyl (but the sounds are amazing compared to stock).
I have had an injen short ram intake on my 2016 bmw 328i and It sounds soooo good! I love it.
10:00 “Donut every day.” This is the only time a Donut every day is actually good for you...
Read your comment as soon as he said it lol
... Do nut every day...
Snazzy amen to that!
7:27 :When the Miata suffers too much, you gotta shoot to end it's suffering.
I had to go back cause I was like "did he just?"
That was the funniest part😂😂😂
Depends on vehicle. My 2017 4runner was down right asmatic. Installed the S and B cold air box and it sounds fantastic. The old induction sound was a strange whine, now it sings at semi heavy acceleration. At regular speeds barely noticeable. Mash that pedal and wow. I'm sold.
It depends on your vehicle. Some OEM intakes are designed really really well, and people end up getting worse performance when they replace them. I had a tuned volkswagen passat, and i loved the aftermarket intake because it looked amazing and it was carbon fiber and all that, but it did absolutely nothing for performance because the stock airbox was essentially just as effective, even with the tune.
I have a gti and I was looking at my stock intake and I’m like bruh this thing seems to be well made to suck in air
Waa thinking about that also with my dual air intake stock 350z
I could see my stock intake has a lot of restriction and with this new one that I’m getting it has none and more cold air especially in this cold weather season
@@luuch_ adventuri carbon fiber intake adds alot with a tune. Noticeably more low end without the tune but after tune large difference. Intake is about 1200 though
@@luuch_ well worth the money especially since u could already afford the GTI to begin with another 1200 isn't bad for the gains. Plus it looks amazing. Everyone always asks about it
This is actually my favorite of the shows on Donut, and it's very informative and entertaining. Zach is also quickly becoming one of my favorite hosts, great job!
Right? I was hesitant at first but you can tell hes a genuine dude. Plus he skates so I automatically trust/like him more then that 4th wheel guy they added who just pretends to be James and has the face/smile of a serial killer.
@@Brock_Corb yea that guy is an ass they should kick him
Nah that guy is a lot better now, I would keep him.
This Miata will go down in history as one of the most modified cars on this channel 😂
I like the way he mentions the bad things about it such as warranty etc. Good to cover both sides
7:27 I thought he gave up and shot his Miata.
Funniest comment here
I was so caught off guard i had to replay it thinking his drill backfired
lmao
Was looking for this comment... busted a cap in its ass!
9mm miata 🤣
8:26 I didn't hear any click :(
😂😂😂he broke that piece
😂
i got a tear there.
Lmao oop
💀
Just subscribed! Enjoyed the video tutorial 😊
The intake was the only sound mod I did on my Miata and it was perfect. Good sound when you’re on throttle, no drone, no cop horn. I have no idea if it lost power and that’s fine
The title is “are intakes even worth it” then you proceed to talk about what the best intake is for your car and how to install them. Based on the title I expected you to do a side by side comparison with actual data. Saying this, I now have the sudden urge to buy a K&N intake.
Go to Mighty Car Mods, they actually did dyno testing. The results are minimal or worse! And not even close to 6 wheel horse power!
If you just add the K&N that goes in the box you will be way better off. Open element filter just suck in hot air which ruins any performance gain from the extra flow.
Dr. Evil it gets you on a subliminal level. As if it’s very poorly down secretly paid advertising
he did aha (aha but not in a mean way :o) , and he did also answer the title right away , right after the 12-15ish mark in the video , where he proceeds to talk abt installing it lmao , so there'd you'd think right away "oh ok so it is good" 💀 then you can click off lmao it told you the answer right away , like it should ;) lmao i still watched it though :)
Stock air filters are tested and tuned by the manufacturer with the best results.
Love the gunshot at 7:27 when hes undoing bolts. This needs to be a new bit in your videos.
i thought i was trippin XD
@@gerryvarela7201 you are man...
😂😂 sound effects are A1
Agreed, that was subtle but perfect. Needs to be a thing.
I thought I was trippin also. Literally until I read this
I use the Airaid Tube and Filter on my Stock air box on my 2008 Silverado, Works Great and a Noticeable Increase in Power.
I installed a short ram intake on my Corolla and I couldn't be happier. Sounds great now! The only thing that changed is the sound. Power and fuel economy seem to be exactly the same. Haven't noticed any issue with hot intake air because the stock intake draws in air from under the hood too (actually right above the radiator). Shouldn't have any issue. Not into cold air intakes due to the whole hydrolocking/destroying engine potential. Short Ram is the way to go IMHO. Less risky and you still get a loud intake.
Day 109 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Com on, they have to do it now
doitttt
jeez bro, you still doing it?!
wow this gets funnier every time i see it posted
@@americansforhire5378 pahahagahahha putting your insta after comments you beg 😂
Did you put the air filter sticker on the car? You know that adds two extra horsepower. 😁
Also the turbo sticker adds 200 hp
Bennet Fox h
Thaybis actually where the hp gains come from
my K&N came with 3 stickers, HECK YEAH
I love these comments
I've been feeling overwhelmed about where to start looking in terms of engine mods but every time I come to donut it just disappears. It's always easy to understand 👍👍
Great video with all the details on cold air intake. Cool sound!! The only downside is that K&N filters ( although help in performance ), let in tons of particles in your engine. I've had K&N filters on different cars and every time the box behind or after the filter would be a lot dirtier than stock filter.
what impact does it have on the longevity of the car and motor?
@@NineDiamont Not sure if enough owners keep their car long enough after the CAI, AND to have gathered that data centrally somewhere, for folks to document the difference. That said, just run a thought-experiment (like Einstein often does): Increased dust particles coating the backside of all your intake valves --> which will 'rub' into the valve stem seal when the intake valves close, abasing against the intake valve stem seals... Increased dust particles entering the combustion chamber, some of them coat onto the cylinder walls --> which the piston rings will scrub against in the compression stroke. During the combustion/expansion stroke, oil (on the cylinder wall) getting scrapped down into oil pan, will 'wash' some of that particle into the oil pan, which will reach the oil filter later. --> Depending on particle size, some will get trapped by oil filter, some will make it through the filter and keep circulating in the oil. The [small] ones that keep circulating in the oil, depending on the relationship between their particle size vs the parts-tolerance (that's suppose to allow a very thin layer of oil between moving parts), might or might-not contribute to additional wear. (I am not familiar with that designed-in tolerance, so unable to comment on that particular area.) I'm going to GUESS (and this is really just a guess): For folks that don't plan on keeping the car another 100K miles after the CAI, probably won't notice the longevity difference. But for folks that plan on driving their car well into 300K miles or more, the additional pass-through dirt/particles is probably not good idea. Personally, my thinking is: if a smaller-engine car can take a "stock" airbox designed for a larger-engine car, that's probably the best of both worlds - larger filtration cross section area, less flow-restriction, and still a reliable OEM filtrate. BUT, that won't come with the intake sound. And also, most small engine bays will have problem trying to fit the larger airbox... That's the direction I'm looking into at this point for my car. Already, a changed muffler made the sound better, but it becomes annoying on 6+ hour drives on the interstate - I imagine a CAI will be like that. So I'm looking for better intake air flow, but not a more pronounced sound.
Whoever's editing these is clearly havin' a lot of fun lol
Big fan
the little gunshot at 7:25 when he's using the drill(?) actually spooked me. lol
Stock air box ducting works pretty well, but the actual intake is restrictive. Ideally, ducting that pulls air away from hotter air and a higher flowing intake would be the best bet
do you hear that me neither and I can't feel what the cars doing so yeah we need to make it louder so I can hear what the hell the motors doing🤣🤣🤣
You forgot to mention, reusable air filters will save you money. Those crappy cabin style filters cost like $35 a piece and you have to throw them away and buy another one. That's the main reason why you should buy aftermarket intake
I like this guy, he’s not a try hard like the new bumper to bumper host.
He's actually pretty try hard, just more comfortable on camera because he's done this for years on other car channels before now. The other guy is probably just as liked and respected in real life because true car enthusiats aren't toxic and like everything on 4 wheels
The one that laughs at his own unfunny jokes? He's the worst.
The young country boy is hard to listen to.
As a mechanic they're great. When they fail to keep water out- I make money. I just posted an in-depth video on this very concept the day before this one.
That’s what a intake rain guard is for
I made one for a laugh and an experiment, and it worked surprisingly well, but amongst other reasons, sucking rain in is why I took it off. kzhead.info/sun/otxmgpWFjYqbeXA/bejne.html
This may be a dumb question but what is the probability of water going in and what happens when water goes in?
@@pratikpatel1631 on the one in my video? A high probability I’d say....
Mine sits right under a hood vent and even during a heavy rain there's no way it would even see remotely enough water to do any damage. Especially if you have one of the many hydrophobic covers that are available.. Now if someone does some janky custom air box that literally holds water like a bucket, then I could see that being an issue.
That milwaukee fuel spits that fire son! First frame of 7:27 a 6in flame shoots out.
We're going to pull the trigger on this as the Summer ends. Thanks for the video! Lookin' in the rear view now over the last year, what would you recommend for a 2022 Charger GT (v6) owner when it comes to cold-air intakes? I love the look of this one and just don't see nearly enough in the way of performance or sound comparisons on the Internet. Let us know and thanks again for the video!
I bought my intake solely for the induction sound.
Same reason i bought a girlfriend
Worth it.
@@Donut what happened to the cruise control
What car?
@@MaFTB My battery is under the rear passenger seat to save room
The only intakes worth getting are those that relocate the air filter/box to a location with less heat. Some cars net respectable gains with a CAI, and some don't. It's worth spending some time looking at groups and websites dedicated to your car or engine, before investing in a CAI. On most modern cars, the primary restriction is in the exhaust, not the intake.
I just like the way it makes my truck sound. I don't care if it does anything or not. Gives it the nice engine tone without having to put an exhaust on it that on long trips can get kinda annoying.
great video my man!
My recommendation is to look up dyno results for your car comparing 3 things: Stock car, stock car with high flow filter, and car with a cold air intake. Especially on newer cars, the "stock car with high flow filter" and "car with cold air intake" will have the same results because newer air box designs are very efficient (and cold air intakes just ship with higher flow filters). Drop a K&N filter into your stock air box and get all the benefits of a cold air intake at a fraction of the cost.
Garth S there has a been a lot of testing of new cars with drop in performance filters that show a very small gain in power. Project Farm showed that a KN drop in filter let in more particles than a good quality paper filter. I am not sure how accurate it is in real world but it does give us an idea.
nah
I'll stick with my K&N and an overpriced warranty
FACT
Garth S even better leave your stock filter in. The oils from a k&n filter along with it’s capability to trap less dirt is a good way to shorten the life of your MAF
Mighty car mods did a whole video on this. They had the cars on a dyno before and after the intake mods. They found that the majority of the time you are losing power, maybe staying the same. The only good thing about these intakes is the sound. That "plastic box" that was removed acts as a shield for the hot air inside the engine bay, while the plastic tube that was removed was bringing cold air from areas with cold air flow.
It all comes down to the design. A majority of them don't add much power because they're capitalizing on the mere concept, despite the fact that not every engine bay is going to have the space available for the perfect design. Ironically, the Mini Cooper has an aftermarket option that very well designed that adds 8HP
It all depends on how the intake restricts mass air flow. An OEM design restrictive to flow will do that, but so will a design that takes in the much less dense hot air. The temps under the hood can get pretty toasty travelling at city speeds, at highway speeds the temp is less of an issue. Specifically on a dyno most fan setups are ridiculously inadequate to simulate actual fresh airflow into the front bumper, so intakes prone to taking in hot air will appear worse than they actually are in real world driving conditions.
I look at it this way, it's sounds great, it allows air to enter easier and it's a one of purchase.
Cool and honest video! I learned alot about wave tuning with my Chrysler long ram intakes with 32" runners. I already knew from experience that the "only for low rpm" common knowledge was wrong in a big way! I have a 727 bellhousing that was split when they flashed past a 6500 rpm rev limiter to 7500+ while running in 2nd gear and was shifted to high! They would consistently lay rubber every 800 rpm or so at over 130 mph in a Chrysler Newport, once accidentally going to 7800rpm. You could drive back and see the multiple marks on the road. The higher the rpm the worse the flash. This was with only headers, a very custom cam, and the rams with hoodscoops on the stock 383 2bbl. The hood scoops made such a difference in intake temp that when I would get to work those long rams would be sweating like a pop can instead of almost too hot to touch. While reading a 1932 encyclopedia that was talking about wave tuning it said the longer the tube becomes the more standing waves are in it and the less critical the cross section area was to flow. I talked to a guy at edelbrock who had driven and dyno tested them who confirmed my findings and said they measured between 5 and 7 psi boost at the valve. I know that they floated my intake valve springs at 2800rpm that ran great up to 6500 with the same carbs on an inline intake. The key was that magic cam tuning and header tube construction. An intake like you show could really step things up at certain rpms. The downside to ram tuning is that it comes in hard at certain points and lays down about as hard at others. The longer the tubes the less distance between points.
It used to be the case decades ago where an intake would be a great modification, but these days most car filter boxes are designed better, and replacing with some cheapo intake will just introduce more contaminants into the engine. Some folks always think that they are smarter than actual engineers. Remember that race car engines get rebuilt after races.
This guys is a teen ager...still using that chepo..coffee filter.
If you aren't buying a sealed, fitted box CAI with a high flow filter...you are wasting your money. People blow money on K&N and it's no better than a Nappa/O'Reilly's Special (Spectre brand, etc). If you can't get cooled air into your engine, you aren't doing shit and the only way to guarantee that is to get a sealed box kit (like S&B). Anything else is cosmetic ricer shit that you're paying for brand over performance. Ironically....the sealed box kits almost always have a poly screen on top and look professional AF while also being cosmetically superior at the same time. Shit looks primo mint. It also makes everything sound "meaner", exhaust wise
@Jack Myhre spoken like a true casual. If you don't have "93 octane in your veins"....you'll never understand. It's the chase that never ends....you can always squeeze out a little more.
@Jack Myhre You are probably not a car enthusiast and that is ok, as most people aren't. I would agree with you, that we all could get from point A to point B in a CVT Mitsubishi Mirage. 78 hp will do the job screaming in protest, however if that was the only car available, most enthusiasts would be looking for ways to make it stand out, sound better and move out faster. When I was 14 I was looking for ways to mod my Garelli moped. A few years later, I was modding my GSXR1000.
@@m.a.d.pandagaming6895 I wish he would have said that. Dont you alsow have to add more fuel to the mixture or is it to get better quality air.
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@@The_Fat_Turtle Not enough clickbait or grunting either.
Scotty Kilmer is secretly god
@@invincibleunderthesun8545 Indeed, he is Epimetheus.
I have a k&n OEM replacement filter for my truck and a tuner. I could really tell a big difference after I cleaned it.
It seemed to sound very good at the exhaust,so I would assume that spells better intake and exhaust great job!
i removed a aftermarket intake from my car because it was a cheap on that didn't have the proper vacuum hoses. it was causing a rough idle. Make sure your intake can accommodate the vacuum lines in your car.
4:12 Money Pit cameraman: Yo Zach! Do a kickflip on that skateboard over there. You wont Zach: BET
I wanna know his setup
I did a "Cold Air" intake on my Turbo Chevy Cruze. The blowoff alone is worth the effort for that install. Not difficult, I have never worked on a car before, so it took some getting used to.
did it add power at all? ive already done exhaust and a few other things but i want the noise
@@BigTreeLander i don’t wanna speak for him but anything that allows a turboed car to get more air would increase power far better than a NA car getting an intake, the spooling sound alone would make it worth it regardless imo
00:40 couldn't resist seeing my old hood in the background there off Washington Pl.
Warm air intakes are for sound only. Stock air boxes have lower IATs, and muffle sound more, and are engineered by the car engineers to work with the MAF sensor best. Dyno tuning a car with the hood up leads to better results with them because they are sucking way more air than if hood was down. It is a big business and the manufacturers of them try their hardest to promote them as something special, with or without a tune.
The gunshot was amazing. it took a few seconds for me to fully realize. "wait, what was that?" love small stuff like that
A long time ago, I had a 01 chevy malibu that had a 2.5 foot snorkel BEFORE the filter box, which was luckily located right next to the wheel well. I pulled that long tube out and rerouted a 6 inch tube to the wheel well and even with basic cheap paper filters, it made a pretty big difference in the low end, but not much different in the high end, no real sound change but glad I did it.
I like this video because you said chamber of secrets :) great info, cool vibe. Great pacing! Top Video
dude has a 10mm right when he needs one. true wizard!
Should be ragulations. Like a checkup. No 10. And you are not allowed to wrench.
No deep socket? Smh
Funniest ever
0:40 I like how Zach says "our" engine as if his Miata belongs to us too.
can't wait to go down and take my turn at the wheel!
Where is our car key?
Sounds like communist propaganda but ok
Pretty sure he means donut media...
@@ragegamingvideosify Oh...
Remember to use heat isolation tape on the metal tube. As it heats when the engine is hot. Which helps to keep the air cold
My Injen intake moved my intake filter from the engine bay down behind my driver side fog light and I have a circle shaped opening for where the non led dog bulb use to be so it gets air straight from the outside :)
Am I the only one who laughed at 4:47 when the editor zoomed in on him knocking the box over 🤣
Same here! hahaha that was so dang funny perfect edit! I really enjoy the little added bits like that or like the gunshot on the bolt so subtle 🤣
Yes
You mean, him, he is the editor.
Yep you're the only one😶
I like the str8 foward info you gave on both styles of aftermarket intakes. Alot of other channels make it seem like if U get a cai or short ram, your car is going to blow up. Good vid!!
This has gotta be one of the best segments on Donut
Often, the increased power is caused by the car running leaner due to how the MAF sensor reads the air stream volume. Of course, as the car warms up, the computer will correct it back to stock.
7:26 Anybody else think he straight up shot his engine bay?
I thought he damaged the battery or something
gunshot_greenscreen.mp4
No, I did not think he shot his engine bay with an impact driver?!?
KoenigsSchwert 24 the battery is in the trunk in a miata
I read something years ago where they tested a bunch of different brands and styles of filter, the only option that showed any positive increase in airflow and performance was a good quality aftermarket filter in the original airbox. Everyone assumes a pod filter works but if you roll out the filter element of your pad style filter and a standard pod filter you'll usually find the pad filter has more area than a standard pod filter which means less restriction🤷♂️🤷♂️.
this is very true. a quality flat filter will provide more surface area for airflow filtration, meaning as it catches particles there is still plenty of space for air to take another route through the element. the main issue is turbulence caused by sharp turns in the box, and the muffled intake sound. most people go aftermarket just for more noise without a full aftermarket exaust.
I replaced the stock snorkel to my airbox which ran over the radiator hose with a straight piece that goes over the radiator directly to the front grill. My ait is now reading 5 degrees over ambient air temperature. Often times just a little mod to your snorkel can make a big improvement. Granted I did some accelerations during the polar vortex in WI with temps at -20 below before wind-chill and it didn't feel like I had a turbo. I don't think cai are worth much aside from sound which can be awesome. Can't say what's needed if you run a turbo and intercooler or need more air than stock!
I wanted to re locate my air filter to the interior. There ya go it’s never gonna be hot or it’s gonna get dirty. Advantage is you can hear it
Have you ever replaced an old cabin air filter? They can get plenty dirty just filtering interior air from the ventilation/heating system over the years. Most modern vehicles have a cabin air filter, but not every single one.
@@The_Fat_Turtle these are typically to filter the air coming into the cabin from the outside. If the HVAC isn't on recirculate it is drawing air from outside the car.
@@andrewhall8123 Most cabin air filters are in use whether it's set to recirculate or not actually.
@@MickyTicky2x4 Agreed, but the worst of what they're filtering is coming from the outside. It's not going to pick up the old fries and burritos you leave under your seat.
My 5.0 ranger desert race truck has the filter mounted on the inside of passengers side firewall, it sounds extremely awesome
One again I didn’t really consider myself a fully car enthusiast cause I didn’t know about mechanics but this is helping me a lot!!
Such an informative video thank you sir