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It doesnt matter who the fans think the best of all time is. I see on social media people arguing all the time saying CR7 is the goat, but when you ask professional players who have played with both, none really say CR7 and all say Messi. Even people that played with CR7 still say Messi and that just shows really how good Messi was.
I can't think of one world class manager, who didn't manage Ronaldo, and said he was better, I genuinely don't understand why is this still a comparison.
Couldn't agree more @johnmiceter 😉👍
Those who say Cristiano is GOAT are either women, children or American dudes..aka soccer-less dudes or any other kind of "I never toched a soccer ball in my life or played the game aside from ps4" kind of dudes 😂...I swear none of them knows when its an offside and when it's not..
How good he is…..he’s still one of the top 10 in the world even at 35
@@radiologicphysicist1083 top 10, name 9 players better then him? I would say he is in the top 3 still for most people and for me he is still the best. He can still do things at 35 that no other current player can do. He has just lost some pace but can still do the things he could at 19.
The modesty of Ronaldinho.. not even trying to look for the acknowledgement to helping Messi grow to the MONSTER he became
Was thinking the same thing
When you talk football you talk about the genius of Messi... Watching him playing football brings joy to my heart...
Made me fall in love with fútbol
who's here after him winning the world cup
Me
What a lovely smile Messi gave when Ronaldo said he haven’t had a dinner together with him yet.
Ronaldinho. What a gentleman.
Right? He is talking like he isn't one of the greatest. One of the reasons why him and Messi are so loved.
@@dx0887 I grew up watching Messi blossom under Pep’s Barca, but I really wish I had the chance to watch full matches of Ronaldinho. If those two can’t make someone fall in love with the game, no one can
@@dx0887 exactly what I meant :) Admire him, and this type of REAL personalities.
❤ Messi forever. When Messi smile the World smiles❤❤❤
People usually ask, when was this guys prime? When was that guys prime But for messi... He doesn't have a prime. Always in prime
Messi still in his prime and will forever be 😍🥶
Which Barcelona are we going to see after Messi leaves? Playing Europa League every year
Mourinho, question has been answered.
Leading la liga as usual though
Ronaldinho is such a humble guy, the best and most technical player in his primer imo, I'm sure he helped Messi a lot in his beginnings, but he only has recognition words for his friend. I was lucky enough to discover football thanks to R10 and knowing enough about it to enjoy whole Messi's career.
True
He definitely did you can see the Brazilian element to Messi’s game that could’ve only been by Ronaldinho
@@azeezbamidele1607 Messi is similar to Maradona and not to Brazilians at all. Messi's tactics and style is so graceful like Maradona. Messi and Maradona are incomparable. Rest like Ronaldinho, Ronaldo etc., are good but Messi and Maradona are at another level.
@@critical_analysis go watch ronaldinho move again and tell me you don’t see the similarities and the aerial ball was always his thing the penalty style you obviously didn’t watch one of them play
@@azeezbamidele1607 I know more about football than you can dream. So, put stop to your shit. Messi was influenced by Maradona, and their dribbling and technical abilities are unique. They don't need to do dance moves like Ronaldinho. Any sane football pundit would see similarities of Maradona in Messi. Most Brazilians do unnecessary step-overs and dance moves (apart from Pele who was pure ). Maradona and Messi make you feel natural and not forced. That's the difference. And, to find that difference, you need to know and watch football.
So, Mourinho predicted : "What Barcelona we'll have after Messi ???" Messi was Barcelona...
Europa League Barca 🥲
messi xavi iniesta puyol pique, there are a lot of elite players that no longer play in barça
@@albertog9659 They were playing without Xavi,Iniesta, Puyoh etc but we're still playing Champions league when Messi was still playing. Just after Messi's exit they are constantly in Europa
@@franklynseps9722 Not only playing in Champions League, we were playing in CL semifinals more often than not. I believe Messi still doesn't get the recognition and respect he deserves.
Messi is the greatest of all time…. Goat!
I feel so lucky to have watched him throughout his whole career. The joy he has given me is something I’ll forever cherish. There will never be a player even half as good as him. It’s hard to explain in words what he means to our sport.
35 yearsold , and the fking man already pass the game, the coming years is the dlc
What you say is perfect. The feeling I get watching the little man play futbol is something I cannot put into words. Forget the numbers, the eye test alone should tell everyone what they need to know about Messi. Cristiano was a great player, no doubt at all. And I think they have both made eachother better footballers during their rivalry. But for me, it isn't even close. Messi is on a level all on his own. Michael Jordan never says hes the greatest basketball player of all time. Leo Messi never says hes the greatest footballer of all time. That is for other people to decide. Cristiano has been pumping his own tires for as long as i can remember, calling himself the best. I'm old enough to have seen both he and Messi make their first team debuts as professionals. Cristianos teams play for Cristiano. Messi plays for the team, not himself.
That is why there are no more Bruce Lees, Muhammad Alis and Gretzkys in the world. You all want instant gratification and the lowering of expected standards. No body wants to do the work to get the reward and so nobody expects others to have to do it, they just want so they too can get way with not having to do the work. Do you realise how much work it takes to get all the different skills of Pele, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali in one human being. These people worked like monsters, but unfortunately we are surrounded by light waits these days with no one prepared to step up to the plate. If you are wondering why Messi cannot kick as good with both feet from long range as Pele could,. just see the interviews of praise he gets saying that he did not train much, but then on match day came to life. Well while he was not training much, people like Pele and Muhammad Ali were training and building up more and more skill to a high level, such as being able to shoot goal after goal from outside the box at long range with both feet and being able to do monster jumps above everybody else to score headers despite being short in Pele's case. This is what it takes to win 3 world cups and miss out on a possible fourth only because you were injured. The idea of struggling to win just one world cup as Messi did and Ronaldo could not is a joke to someone of Pele's ability and even more so if you have to be awarded 5 penalties doing it with Pele saying he did not want to take penalties as he felt it was too easy and a cowardly way to score a goal and take credit, especially if you did not win the penalty or the penalty was a wrong call. Those who call Messi the GOAT are ignoring facts and lowering standards of what the greatest player should not only look like, but be able to achieve in what is a team game. They do not understand what greatness is as an individual or as a team member. They are saying he or she does not have to win the greatest and most challenging things and does not have to have all the skills of the profession that would help him or her win those things. All he needs is to get a few high personal statistics and that is it, forget all the rest. I have no doubt if not for the racism of banning foreigners from winning a Ballon d'or, Pele would have won 10 or more of them with ease to go with all the other records he was breaking and would have won one before he was 18 years old just as he had won everything else possible to win by the time he was 18, including the world cup and South American cup. I'm relying on on nothing, but pure facts here. Peace and love.
@@richardjuukovsky141 pele was great one of the best, BUT, in 58 he play 3 or 4 games, the best player in that WC was Didi, in the 62 he only play one game (the first) ,the best player was Garrincha, only in the 70 (the last he play) was the best player of the tournament. recently i see a ranking of brazilian players, and two in the top five, playing whit pele (top1)(Didi and Garrincha), that show the level of team pele have in that times
@@alcitrullo3124 Here’s a quote that’s perfect for Messi that I recently heard someone say on Rogan ... “Messi is so much better than people who are really great at it ( football )”. Messi showed the football world the highest reaches of skills of the game. Almost perfection. I’m not exaggerating ... he’s a phenomenon who should be celebrated for the sheer joy ... and inspiration of us all. And you just love showering praise on him because aside from his talent, he’s also a humble and lovable guy. 💖 All the best 💚🙂
8:54 Favourite moment! I love to see how managers motivate their team during a game or half-time and Messi is an obvious example that i love to see great managers bring up to pump their team up!
what team during the whiteboard briefing? anyone?
@@nihilkatedra5452 Man City. I think last year when they played PSG not sure.
Ferdinand is so humble and generous. Love that guy. 🔶 Here’s a quote that’s perfect for Messi that I recently heard someone say on Rogan ... “Messi is so much better than people who are really great at it ( football )”. Messi showed the football world the highest reaches of skills of the game. Almost perfection. I’m not exaggerating ... he’s a phenomenon who should be celebrated for the sheer joy ... and inspiration of us all. And you just love showering praise on him because aside from his talent, he’s also a humble and lovable guy. 💖 All the best 💚🙂
He doesn’t need a worldcup to prove he is the GOAT. He has been that for a long time now ! Just a privilege to watch him still playing at top
That is why there are no more Bruce Lees, Muhammad Alis and Gretzkys in the world. You all want instant gratification and the lowering of expected standards. No body wants to do the work to get the reward and so nobody expects others to have to do it, they just want so they too can get way with not having to do the work. Do you realise how much work it takes to get all the different skills of Pele, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali in one human being. These people worked like monsters, but unfortunately we are surrounded by light waits these days with no one prepared to step up to the plate. If you are wondering why Messi cannot kick as good with both feet from long range as Pele could,. just see the interviews of praise he gets saying that he did not train much, but then on match day came to life. Well while he was not training much, people like Pele and Muhammad Ali were training and building up more and more skill to a high level, such as being able to shoot goal after goal from outside the box at long range with both feet and being able to do monster jumps above everybody else to score headers despite being short in Pele's case. This is what it takes to win 3 world cups and miss out on a possible fourth only because you were injured. The idea of struggling to win just one world cup as Messi did and Ronaldo could not is a joke to someone of Pele's ability and even more so if you have to be awarded 5 penalties doing it with Pele saying he did not want to take penalties as he felt it was too easy and a cowardly way to score a goal and take credit, especially if you did not win the penalty or the penalty was a wrong call. Those who call Messi the GOAT are ignoring facts and lowering standards of what the greatest player should not only look like, but be able to achieve in what is a team game. They do not understand what greatness is as an individual or as a team member. They are saying he or she does not have to win the greatest and most challenging things and does not have to have all the skills of the profession that would help him or her win those things. All he needs is to get a few high personal statistics and that is it, forget all the rest. I have no doubt if not for the racism of banning foreigners from winning a Ballon d'or, Pele would have won 10 or more of them with ease to go with all the other records he was breaking and would have won one before he was 18 years old just as he had won everything else possible to win by the time he was 18, including the world cup and South American cup. I'm relying on on nothing, but pure facts here. Peace and love.
@@richardjuukovsky141 With all due respect, Messi is a far better player than Pele. People across eras have said the exact same thing. The numbers Messi has pulled playing at the most elite level in Europe far outweigh Pele's numbers playing in Brazil against part time construction workers. He's won absolutely everything he can and has the most decorated resume of any player ever. Hes the greatest ever in the greatest sport ever and he is now well above any athlete you named. But using numbers with Messi is an insult to him. You need only eyes to see that his talent, intelligence and ability are abnormal. He can do things with the ball that no one will ever do. Their are great goal-scorers in history, great playmakers, great dribblers, but there is only one attacker that is all three. And that is Messi
He won the wc so shut up
May God give him dis year world cup Dis will be the best year for us his fans🇦🇷🏆
Absolutely mate, with all my heart I want him to win the world cup
He gave him
But made it very clear it's not by might or power. It's a crystal clear picture
Messi is simply the greatest of all time. He is a natural talent. He has done on the pitch what king Pele and maradona together had done in their careers. Trophies are product of a complete team play. But that man who stands out the best is the king. That's Messi for you.
Sorry, no Messi is great, he's goat player. But Maradona was a force of nature.
Whoever thinks he's better than Messi in his delusional life should just think of how messi is being GOAT-discussed all around social media..... him and him alone .
Messi: superb! absolutely superb, and he is the BEST, he's the BEST there is, the BEST that EVER has been, the BEST there EVER will be.
That is why there are no more Bruce Lees, Muhammad Alis and Gretzkys in the world. You all want instant gratification and the lowering of expected standards. No body wants to do the work to get the reward and so nobody expects others to have to do it, they just want so they too can get way with not having to do the work. Do you realise how much work it takes to get all the different skills of Pele, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali in one human being. These people worked like monsters, but unfortunately we are surrounded by light waits these days with no one prepared to step up to the plate. If you are wondering why Messi cannot kick as good with both feet from long range as Pele could,. just see the interviews of praise he gets saying that he did not train much, but then on match day came to life. Well while he was not training much, people like Pele and Muhammad Ali were training and building up more and more skill to a high level, such as being able to shoot goal after goal from outside the box at long range with both feet and being able to do monster jumps above everybody else to score headers despite being short in Pele's case. This is what it takes to win 3 world cups and miss out on a possible fourth only because you were injured. The idea of struggling to win just one world cup as Messi did and Ronaldo could not is a joke to someone of Pele's ability and even more so if you have to be awarded 5 penalties doing it with Pele saying he did not want to take penalties as he felt it was too easy and a cowardly way to score a goal and take credit, especially if you did not win the penalty or the penalty was a wrong call. Those who call Messi the GOAT are ignoring facts and lowering standards of what the greatest player should not only look like, but be able to achieve in what is a team game. They do not understand what greatness is as an individual or as a team member. They are saying he or she does not have to win the greatest and most challenging things and does not have to have all the skills of the profession that would help him or her win those things. All he needs is to get a few high personal statistics and that is it, forget all the rest. I have no doubt if not for the racism of banning foreigners from winning a Ballon d'or, Pele would have won 10 or more of them with ease to go with all the other records he was breaking and would have won one before he was 18 years old just as he had won everything else possible to win by the time he was 18, including the world cup and South American cup. I'm relying on on nothing, but pure facts here. Peace and love.
More like Messi is the same today, tomorrow & forever.
There's no words to express how Good MESSI IS.. 😍👍✋💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Champions League game v Bayern where he he waltzed passed 5 German internationals, sat Boeteng on his backside & dinked the words best goalpeeper Neuer with his "weaker" right foot actuaully to score had me off the couch applauding without even realising it. - Football for the soul.
Remember, Ronaldinho was the Ballon d'Or holder when he told Kobe a 17 year old Messi was better than him. Very modest of him as he was an outrageously good player himself, but he recognised the talent early on.
only player whose entire carrer was his prime
That is why there are no more Bruce Lees, Muhammad Alis and Gretzkys in the world. You all want instant gratification and the lowering of expected standards. No body wants to do the work to get the reward and so nobody expects others to have to do it, they just want so they too can get way with not having to do the work. Do you realise how much work it takes to get all the different skills of Pele, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali in one human being. These people worked like monsters, but unfortunately we are surrounded by light waits these days with no one prepared to step up to the plate. If you are wondering why Messi cannot kick as good with both feet from long range as Pele could,. just see the interviews of praise he gets saying that he did not train much, but then on match day came to life. Well while he was not training much, people like Pele and Muhammad Ali were training and building up more and more skill to a high level, such as being able to shoot goal after goal from outside the box at long range with both feet and being able to do monster jumps above everybody else to score headers despite being short in Pele's case. This is what it takes to win 3 world cups and miss out on a possible fourth only because you were injured. The idea of struggling to win just one world cup as Messi did and Ronaldo could not is a joke to someone of Pele's ability and even more so if you have to be awarded 5 penalties doing it with Pele saying he did not want to take penalties as he felt it was too easy and a cowardly way to score a goal and take credit, especially if you did not win the penalty or the penalty was a wrong call. Those who call Messi the GOAT are ignoring facts and lowering standards of what the greatest player should not only look like, but be able to achieve in what is a team game. They do not understand what greatness is as an individual or as a team member. They are saying he or she does not have to win the greatest and most challenging things and does not have to have all the skills of the profession that would help him or her win those things. All he needs is to get a few high personal statistics and that is it, forget all the rest. I have no doubt if not for the racism of banning foreigners from winning a Ballon d'or, Pele would have won 10 or more of them with ease to go with all the other records he was breaking and would have won one before he was 18 years old just as he had won everything else possible to win by the time he was 18, including the world cup and South American cup. I'm relying on on nothing, but pure facts here. Peace and love.
Messi is special made to play football he can do anything u want him to do just fantastic
Cristiano said “It’s not easy”. For Messi is… just a walk in the park on Sunday.
I think most of Jose’s predictions are coming through. Jose sees a lot few can see
Those last words there, by Ronaldinho. Absolutely spot on!! Pele was the best of his era. Maradona the best of his era. Now Messi the best of his era, like Ronaldo and Romario were of theirs.
Messi is the greatest of all time because he is a combination of various factors like technical ability of Maradona, pace and finishing like Ronaldo Nazario, dribbling skills of Ronaldinho and impact on world football like Pele. There will be never be anyone be as good as Messi and for that long. He is the King of Football.
The way Pep talks about Messi, you know he absolutely adores Messi. Absolutely. "Messi is number 9, number 10, number 4, number 5...."
imagine being a manager and having a resource like messi at hand, a player that can decide a game at will because of his sheer class. i guess this is what you dream about being a coach, so whats not to be adored? also in training happens stuff that is probably even more stellar than what we - the audience - get served in official matches when we attend in the stadium or watch games on tv. pep started his career as a manager when messi was reaching the peak of his powers, so the love only comes natural ( although it has to be said that pep is of course an outstanding coach!) when the titles start to flow in.
No doubt a lot of people know that come someday Messi will win the World Cup. A touch of genius and a gift from God
Hope you are prepearing Part 3 with World Cup 2022 material!
you gotta appreciate the humility of rio. lost too finals and still is able to talk about it constantly especially messi 😂
Messi the 👽🐐
Ask the greatest defenders and they will all say Messi because he was a defender's nightmare.
Just one word genius
The description by fabregas and Rio Ferdinand about messi gave me goosebumps and made my smile 😁😁😄. I wish Messi plays forever
The best ever now a world champion
Mourinho : Which Barcelona are we going to have when Messi decides to go?
MESSI THE BEST FROM THE BEST
Honestly, sure a lot of people don't like Cristiano Ronaldo because of the way he is and his attitude etc. but dude, huge respect to him, he was the only the one for over 10 years that was close to a competitor to Messi, like dude, as he said they both pushed each other forward. Sure I am a Messi fan but I can't just overlook someones hard work and success because of a millennial or a one of a kind talent. Also to people who say people in their primes jada jada, those players didn't do the same thing as Messi did, did they? Honestly I wish there was a player who did something similarfobefore him but my knowledge unfortunately ends here. So whoever has enough knowledge on footballs history, please enlighten me.
What a wonderful video! Y ... ¡VAMOS, ARGENTINA!
simply Incomparable👓
Ronaldinho will be in messi history forever messi frst goal,im not sayin no one will rembr him but he will alyz be remembered as the guy who help n brought up messi
Messi is the GOAT !!!!
GOAT
I was uninformed man on football, so i only knew 3 football club, juventus, AC milan and real madrid. At that time, i was watching the 1st el-classico game due to my friend, so i tend to root for madrid because that's one of the club i knew, after 10 minutes or so, i was shocked, and still am, to watch a football club in reality plays like a football club i read in manga (try read shoot manga and kakegawa football club is what i am referring to, read it, i highly recommend it, and try to focus on an arc in the manga where kakegawa have to deal with a flash passing). On the center of that stage was a man with No. 10 on barcelona jersey, Messi didn't score a single goal during that el-classico, but the way he wrecked havoc on madrid and the tiki taka play of barcelona. In an instant i love FCB, but after messi left barca i did realize, it's not the club i love, but it's messi all along. He brings me pristine joy to watch football, his passion to the game is highly contagious. I never know and watch any player that give me that kind of vibe over football like messi does. Stats and number of goals, etc is terms that people use to quantify about how great a player is, but with messi, stats and numbers can't do it. His glorius moments in football is a piece of an art, you can't quantify an art, you just know a masterpiece art because it touches your soul. And that's why Messi is the best. Pele, Maradona, etc are a distant memories, though their greatness still echoes and reach out today, with messi, you can still watch him today. Enjoy it, it's a privilege for u to watch it live
When you realised messi doesn't have a prime
He's always in it. His prime is the life span of his football career. Lol
@@guidedbyelohim103 right, that's insane.
I think Rio Ferdenand is in love with Messi
Goat 🐐
Messi the GOAT
Now stats says messi is the best.
Great uploads man! GG
Appreciate it!
Thank you Ferdinand your sooo good 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow, great work!!
Thanks a lot!
Love watching it 👍🏻
Glad you enjoy it!
The funniest interview about Messi I've ever seen was where Marcello asked his fellow defenders why Messi isn't responding when he spoke to him. His guys (RM) told him to leave Messi alone or the game was going to get more difficult 😂. Mind you, Marcello was a World Class LWB for almost 13 years! The video is somewhere on here. 🤣
Prime time Lionel Messi; Unplayable- Rio Ferdinand. 🙌🙌
Ronaldinho what a Man
8:18 that's the difference.
the comparing of cr7 and messi is over. Messi and Argentina had put a full stop on this topic. had proven as messi at 35 as the most complete player of all time had once again broke the record and become a true legendary that will live forever in our heart and mind. regardless what hater excuse and deny as the g. o. a. t words already on messi Jersey the only one player who had it even before he and his teammate lift the world cup. Messi had nothing to prove anymore.
What pep said about Sterling was right. These two were on the same stage for 15 years. And then there's other who are at top for 1-2 years.
Pretty fucking good video mate.
Much appreciated!
Rio the most expencive defencive player of his time!!!
❤
..and when Ronaldinho says "I was so happy to have given him the assist to his first goal", the discussion ends...
Peb loves messi 😂
Nice shout out to Romario and Ronaldo (not CR7) from Ronaldinho
The World says MESSI is the GOAT Ronaldo says "I am the GOAT" That is the basic difference between a very good player and a LEGEND
Messi 2022 world cup
I pray he makes it far before retirement ❤
can someone get some more magic potions for Messi so he plays football forever so our kids know what all the fuss is about
RESPECT MORINO
Mourinho called it which arca are we going to have wen messi leaves
What pep was trying to say is support crosses/passes into the box.
Which barcelona are we going to have when messi decides to go home ! Answer : Europalona
Ronanadinho aka humble
I really miss Ronaldinho
As José asked, which Barcelona remains if Messi decides to leave, we've seen the trash Barca now
Sterling ???😂😂😂😂
Even ramos saying messi is the best
Mourinho pridected Barcelona ehen messi left Barcelona . That is the reason why Barcelona playing in the Europe league
Cr7 is the Kid
who was the most tehnique player in history of football?ronaldinho.....who was the best player of all time?messi....who give to this guy named messi the first ever pass of goal?ronaldinho...
None of these are legends tho..but we know legends did talk about Messi..Pele, Ronaldo (brazil) etc..where are they.
If Messi was a musician he who have been Bob Marley
Mozart or Bach
How would Messi have done in the era of Maradona ? Soccer/Football was a far ROUGHER and BLOODY game in the 1970s and 1980s ? It is like comparing European Hockey and North American Hockey. The swedes and Russians have trouble dealing with the HARSH playing of the NHL.
Probably equal or even better than Maradona. And probably much MUCH more consistent.
Maradona was pure magic on the pitch. Don’t compare them, they are so similar and so worlds apart. Messi playing in 70s/80s would have not been what he was/is now. The game back then was brutal. Maradona played in 4 WC, won one and become immortal, almost won second one in 1990 and manage to pull the whole team all the way to final even he played with injuries. Participating in 1994 was a mistake but pressured from every direction he went in. 1982 in Spain shows what I said in the beginning - 80s were brutal
... better? I don’t think so. With all the qualities he has, one he does not have - the sheer will to achieve success at all cost, the talent to lead the rest in doing so and that is why Maradona for me is the real goat
What an utter tool, or just low-knowledge guy that British reporter was...asking Guardiola if Sterling was level with the class of Messi and Ronaldo. And a great, tactful response from Pep...but the reporter's too thick to get the hint, and proceeds to stick the shoe a little deeper into his own mouth. Makes you wonder how long he's been covering sport.
Brit reporters are full of s..t , arrogant pricks.Sterling who?
Pele #1 Messi #2 Maradona #3 Messi forsure top gee
penaldo comparandose con MESSI,,,,messi ,un jugador de equipo que es el mejor asistidor regateador y goleador y que muchaS muchas jugadas pensaba en dar el pase a otro delantero...igualito que el egocentrico que durante años abroncaba a sus compañeros por marcar ellos y no el......se imaginan a MESSI siendo egoista con sus compañeros?? yo tampoco, pero si hubiese sido así, Messi llevaria 300 goles mas que penaldo
You cannot talk About Messi without mentioning cr7 and you cannot talk about cr7 without mentioning Messi
To say Messi has everything is rubbish and the fact you have to lie about this in your argument or statement means you have an agenda that not only seeks to ignore the facts or seeks to manipulate them, or you are blindly listening to those that do. 1. He can only shoot well with one foot from range, but Pele could do this with both, 2. He is not great at heading the ball under pressure, but Pele could, 3. He cannot produce the match winning magic in high pressure finals to pull his team over the line, but Pele and Maradona could again and again no matter how poorly their team played. 4. He is not so great or reliable at taking penalties, but Pele was. 5. He could and has not dribbled from one end of the pitch to the other past a whole team of professional players and score a goal despite all the new rules in his favour to make this easier to achieve, but Pele did and showed he can with the task of players hacking at his feet with impunity supported by the fouling rules of the time that would not have them sent off if they did, and as a result had a statue built of him outside the stadium he did it. Unfortunately this is not on film as only less than 30 percent of Pele's professional performances were caught on film. 6. Messi cannot defend or tackle very well which is part of football and what a football player is and does, but Pele could tackle and defend very well. 7. There is nothing that Messi has done on the football or does at a high level that Pele did not or could not do by the age of 18, not one thing, but there is plenty Pele did and could do at a high level that Messi has not done in his whole career and cannot do. With all this in mind, to say he is the greatest player the world has ever seen as Carragher might say is a joke, stupid and actually factually criminal. Pele is football and showed the world what is possible in football. When players learn to achieve the best they could ever be as football players they are aiming to get as close as they can to doing what Pele can do, but even the greatest cannot get close. You will need to put all Christian Ronaldo's strengths Messi does not have, such as his amazing heading ability, and all Messi's strengths Ronaldo does not have, together, to replicate what Pele was capable, but their skills and strengths on their own as individuals is not enough to match or compete with what Pele was or could do as a football player. It is only by achieving this would they too be able to win 3 world cups, and be viciously fouled out of a fourth, or score 8 goals in a professional game against professional players that can foul you with no interest in the ball knowing they will not be sent off. Both Christian Ronaldo and Messi have great statistics and some of the best statistics the world have ever seen, but even they struggle to keep up with the statistics achieved by Pele despite all the modern rule changes that make these statistics easier to achieve such yellow and red cards for fouls and modern offside rules, for example. A lot of goals they scored would not have been scored as they would have been viciously fouled with no attempt to get the ball with the player knowing they will not be sent off as Pele had to experience. If Pele played under the same rules Messi and Ronaldo play under, he would have scored far more goals, made far more assists, dribbled passed a whole team, not just once, and so on. That is the honest way to judge who is the greatest player of all time. Pele showed us what the beautiful game is and showed us many things in football we have never seen before and never even thought possible. Neither Messi nor Ronaldo can make this claim. So who is the best ever? This should not even be up for debate in any sane world and it is pure ignorance, and for some even a clear act of clear racism or nationalism, to even consider it. It's a slam dunk for Pele. However, who is the second third or fourth best or greatest player ever, that is up for debate. Peace and love
all this writing and still wrong
@@JamesBur I know man I didn’t even read half of it I skipped to the end when I heard pele 🤣🤣
Rubbish rubbish rubbish
Mr ESPN over here! 😂😂 Messi the Goat. 🇦🇷❤️⭐️⭐️⭐️🤫
@@JamesBur That is why there are no more Bruce Lees, Muhammad Alis and Gretzkys in the world. You all want instant gratification and the lowering of expected standards. No body wants to do the work to get the reward and so nobody expects others to have to do it, they just want so they too can get way with not having to do the work. Do you realise how much work it takes to get all the different skills of Pele, Bruce Lee or Muhammad Ali in one human being. These people worked like monsters, but unfortunately we are surrounded by light waits these days with no one prepared to step up to the plate. If you are wondering why Messi cannot kick as good with both feet from long range as Pele could,. just see the interviews of praise he gets saying that he did not train much, but then on match day came to life. Well while he was not training much, people like Pele and Muhammad Ali were training and building up more and more skill to a high level, such as being able to shoot goal after goal from outside the box at long range with both feet and being able to do monster jumps above everybody else to score headers despite being short in Pele's case. This is what it takes to win 3 world cups and miss out on a possible fourth only because you were injured. The idea of struggling to win just one world cup as Messi did and Ronaldo could not is a joke to someone of Pele's ability and even more so if you have to be awarded 5 penalties doing it with Pele saying he did not want to take penalties as he felt it was too easy and a cowardly way to score a goal and take credit, especially if you did not win the penalty or the penalty was a wrong call. Those who call Messi the GOAT are ignoring facts and lowering standards of what the greatest player should not only look like, but be able to achieve in what is a team game. They do not understand what greatness is as an individual or as a team member. They are saying he or she does not have to win the greatest and most challenging things and does not have to have all the skills of the profession that would help him or her win those things. All he needs is to get a few high personal statistics and that is it, forget all the rest. I have no doubt if not for the racism of banning foreigners from winning a Ballon d'or, Pele would have won 10 or more of them with ease to go with all the other records he was breaking and would have won one before he was 18 years old just as he had won everything else possible to win by the time he was 18, including the world cup and South American cup. I'm relying on on nothing, but pure facts here. Peace and love.
What Mourinho said come true. Barcelona is a shit team now without messi
If you imagine manchester united as tea powder, you are the tea powder in it, messi is the tea, because the tea powder dissolves in the tea.
Es el mejor de la historia no hay nadie más muchos están en escándalo cochinada