Inside the secret race to find a successor for NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg | DW News

2024 ж. 16 Қаң.
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Jens Stoltenberg's contract has been extended numerous times and he has been NATO Secretary General for almost a decade. Now he's expected to pass the baton to his successor at an upcoming summit in Washington DC to mark NATO's 75th anniversary.
But the next Secretary General must first secure unanimous support within the alliance.
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  • Gender should have no bearing on the job, but I do agree it should be from a country that has been taking their defense spending seriously and meeting that 2% minimum.

    @adamminichino5731@adamminichino57314 ай бұрын
    • It's women who say it needs to be a woman, that is all. It should be based on qualifications, not gender.

      @BaliAgha@BaliAgha4 ай бұрын
    • It should be a veteran who knows the pain of war.

      @hamish1309@hamish13094 ай бұрын
    • It should be Taylor Swift

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • my bet is on someone either; female and / or from a eastern European country or none white.

      @gawkthimm6030@gawkthimm60304 ай бұрын
    • A country's defence spending doesn't make its national a better leader, besides Estonia may spend relatively more of its GDP than the Netherlands, but does it spend in absolute terms more than the Netherlands? I don't think so, I found that the Netherlands spent 19 time more than Estonia in 2021!

      @oldebarneveldt5326@oldebarneveldt53264 ай бұрын
  • Why are there so many comments about wanting someone with a ''militairy background'' as Secretary General? Yes that person is gonna be the face of a milirairy alliance, but the job has barely anything to do with militairy decision making. The Secretary general is the chair of major committees and the international spokesperson, a job much more resembling (and suitted for) an ex-Prime Minister/experienced diplomat, than a high ranking General/Admiral or Minister of Defence.

    @Mark-FR_26@Mark-FR_264 ай бұрын
    • because this pussyfooting within nato has to stop. have clear lines and show clear deterrence

      @Therealpro2@Therealpro24 ай бұрын
    • because they dont know NATO has a Military Chief.

      @MrSandman96@MrSandman963 ай бұрын
    • @MrSandman96 btw that "Military Chief" you mention, a.k.a. chair of the NATO Military Committee, is also Dutch (admiral Bauer) for the moment, but his term of three years is almost up, so I don't think we will end up with two Dutchmen at the head of NATO. I am Dutch myself, but I would not advice to go totally Dutch for NATO ;) We need fair representation of all member states. If you go down one step in the military hierarchy you get the Supreme Allied Commander Europe. This position has always been held by a US miitary officer. You might have been thinking of that guy (general Cavoli).

      @sixpackpilot@sixpackpilot3 ай бұрын
  • I vote for the news anchor guy. He seems perfect--- he's likable, and fair, and intelligent, and has a certain gravitas.

    @noahway13@noahway134 ай бұрын
    • Or Taylor Swift

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • @@ericp1139fuck no

      @Chips569@Chips5693 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂 But has he nerves of steel like Jens.

      @tadhgcronin175@tadhgcronin17525 күн бұрын
  • I am heartily sick of people wanting women to do this or that job because no women has done it before. What an insulting position. Give the job to the best person for it and if that happens to be a woman so what? You can claim men and women are equal claiming women should get an advantage.

    @Bar-Hillel@Bar-Hillel4 ай бұрын
    • Feminism never was about equality, it always was only about power.

      @mistressfreezepeach@mistressfreezepeach4 ай бұрын
    • What she will do in case of war with Russia? .

      @user-ek9go3kf2w@user-ek9go3kf2w4 ай бұрын
    • Here, here! Liberals and affirmative action supporters insult the very people they recommend for the job based on anything but qualifications. This female reporter demonstrates the problem! Most likely, she was given the important slot at NATO based on her sex which she intends on getting more women positions in slots based primarily on their sex instead of being the best qualified for the job. Liberal and progressive activists never learn from the destruction decades of affirmative action hiring has caused to the people the classes of people they promote as well as the institutions and companies enduring such foolishness.

      @506thparatrooper@506thparatrooper3 ай бұрын
    • @@mistressfreezepeachit was about equality when it started.

      @Chips569@Chips5693 ай бұрын
    • @@Chips569 nope.

      @mistressfreezepeach@mistressfreezepeach3 ай бұрын
  • "He is a likable guy,.. No one apposed to him... Knew how to deal with different leaders.. No one want him out so they don't rock the boat as everyone trusted him" talking about Stoltenberg, that is genuinely a great and impressive leadership qualities right there! would be great if I could be called and remembered the same as him at my work field! 😆

    @kazomazo6646@kazomazo66464 ай бұрын
    • He was just a good dude. The life of the party, and he always knew how to chug a beer.

      @seppomuppit@seppomuppit4 ай бұрын
    • he's not even a leader of anything he make speeches, hold no authority or power, just handle paperwork lol easiest job I know

      @PepeCoinMania@PepeCoinMania3 ай бұрын
    • @@PepeCoinMania Well probably not the easiest, since you can't even handle grammar.

      @madselmvig1457@madselmvig14573 ай бұрын
    • I respect Jens Stoltenberg's skills and intellect. While he rightly deserves credit for his successes, he must also own his failures too. Every American President since President Eisenhower, especially President Trump, criticized NATO countries's consistent failure to fund their own national defense by at least 2% of GDP. In 2014, all NATO countries recommitted to this minimum 2% GDP defense spending and yet only 11 of the then 31 NATO countries fulfilled this commitment.

      @506thparatrooper@506thparatrooper3 ай бұрын
    • @@506thparatrooper He can't force any countries to meet the threshold of 2% of GDP for defence. He can only try to persuade. A lot of countries have many domestic economic problems and the leaders of those countries have to make sure they are re-elected first, their population being more concerned with their own immediate personal needs rather than the future security or defence needs.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london3 ай бұрын
  • As a Norwegian I did not like Jens as a politician, but as head of NATO he has done an excellent job!

    @TheJensss@TheJensss4 ай бұрын
    • Are you serious he is the most corrupt person in the world. He’s take money from the oligarchs

      @Bushings.78@Bushings.784 ай бұрын
    • of course, loss in Ukraine, flight from Afghanistan, future conflicts in Yemen-Iran, Korea, Taiwan, Venezuela

      @pomka24@pomka244 ай бұрын
    • @@pomka24 That's not on Jens, he has worked hard to get NATO members to corporate and support Ukraine more than they initially wanted. The problems are countries like Germany that are to scared of their past and are to passive in the support for Ukraine and the build up of their own army. Norway are neighbor to Russia but we have still contributed a lot more to Ukraine than example Germany

      @TheJensss@TheJensss4 ай бұрын
    • @@TheJensssI like what you did there Mr stoltenburg. Maybe try going by a different alias next time

      @tylerelissa6377@tylerelissa63774 ай бұрын
    • @@pomka24 Afghanistan, Yemen, and Taiwan are American projects. Venezuela and Korea are not related to NATO at all.

      @hevnervals@hevnervals3 ай бұрын
  • Seeing trump little brother "Boris johnson's name and pics being mentioned had me rolling, just Imagine boris as nato chief 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    @ZaineKnight@ZaineKnight4 ай бұрын
    • 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

      @IrenESorius@IrenESorius4 ай бұрын
    • Boris Johnson is the main suspect 😂

      @edwardvalivonis23@edwardvalivonis234 ай бұрын
    • Peace will never be an option

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • This is a work event!

      @Fujihoffmann@Fujihoffmann4 ай бұрын
    • I like it. Our enemies will see his hair and think "better not mess with NATO while that guy is in charge, he´s got to be a freaking lunatic!

      @1112viggo@1112viggo4 ай бұрын
  • Rutte is a hardliner against Russia 👍👍

    @victorvandillen5297@victorvandillen52974 ай бұрын
    • That`s it!@@et2709

      @ralfduttenhofer957@ralfduttenhofer9574 ай бұрын
    • He also destroyed our military, we do not spend 2%, and above all he is a LIAR!

      @anoyingnomad@anoyingnomad4 ай бұрын
    • @@et2709 Disallowing Russia to once again work to forcibly bring sizable parts of the European continent under its control is not the problem. Russia is not the only country in Eastern Europe or Europe as a whole with the right to ensure their own defence and security. We should not accept Russia's view that neighbouring countries and even the EU are lesser entities in that regard.

      @waasar@waasar4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@et2709Russia actually IS the problem. Incursions in Ukraine since 2014, actually invading in 2022, fighting to this day, AND regularly threatening to impose Russki Mir on more & more currently independent nations! Of course Russia under putins' aggressive expansionist policies are indeed the problem.

      @davidkottman3440@davidkottman34404 ай бұрын
    • @@et2709 you live in the west? maybe side with us. When the bombs fall on your house they are not from Nato.

      @jackphilipsen452@jackphilipsen4523 ай бұрын
  • Stoltenberg is Great NATO secretary, he doesn't need to be replaced now. He is an amazing Guy! ❤❤❤

    @golokavrndavana@golokavrndavana3 ай бұрын
    • why is great? give me 2 reasons

      @rafalef@rafalef3 ай бұрын
  • Jens STONE berg is one of the best NATO secretary. He work tirelessly supervising members to unite during crises happening in Europe. A stone man..

    @rubenreyes4477@rubenreyes4477Ай бұрын
  • Dont let him go! He is so NATO!

    @user-jf6ob4pv9n@user-jf6ob4pv9n4 ай бұрын
  • Mark Rutte of the Netherlands likely holds the strongest cards

    @jackxams@jackxams3 ай бұрын
  • for most of my young adolescent life Stoltenberg has been the face of NATO, everytime NATO is mentioned I always see his face.

    @emikomina@emikomina4 ай бұрын
    • All the warmongering and cooked up wars to sustain the blood empire nkt lol

      @gideongiggie5017@gideongiggie50174 ай бұрын
    • Because NATO and USA are aout of money, NATO is collanpsing, Germany if on the edge of the cliff-

      @PavolFilek@PavolFilek4 ай бұрын
    • @@PavolFilekBiggest nonsens of the day:). Maybe you country, Pavol…

      @Th-vy8ut@Th-vy8ut4 ай бұрын
    • Cool story bro

      @seanitoism@seanitoism4 ай бұрын
    • @@gideongiggie5017 Blah, blah, blah... go take your "anti-West Ego Trip" elsewhere please? NATO has saved "millions" of lives with the actions of this organisation.

      @sebastianwrites@sebastianwrites4 ай бұрын
  • Shoud of been Ben Wallace. He was Genuine, Honest ,Fair, Trustworthy and Kind. He would of done a great job .

    @hollyylloh515@hollyylloh5154 ай бұрын
    • He lacked the experience of being a PM.

      @michaelmazowiecki9195@michaelmazowiecki91953 ай бұрын
  • Ben Wallace would make a brilliant nato chief

    @rickygreen8639@rickygreen86394 ай бұрын
    • Rubbish

      @edwardvalivonis23@edwardvalivonis234 ай бұрын
  • NATO Must select a good leader of NATO..like the outgoing Strong and goodman with principle NATO chief Jen Stoltenberg..Godbless You Sir

    @gilbertperez9200@gilbertperez92004 ай бұрын
  • 4:12 - Energizer bunny, but the sentiment of the remark was clear enough.

    @d.b.4671@d.b.46714 ай бұрын
  • Select NATO leader should be fair, understanding on both sides of play.

    @user-og8ef6pf4s@user-og8ef6pf4s4 ай бұрын
  • Who will be the next clown..

    @moniershebeika3610@moniershebeika36104 ай бұрын
  • If you want a real continuation: URSULA. She is enough genocidal.

    @user-jf6ob4pv9n@user-jf6ob4pv9n4 ай бұрын
  • As Estonian, I truly hope that it won't be Kaja Kallas. Just to name a few reasons: She is from a corrupt political family (her farther, Siim Kallas allegedly stole millions during the first years of Estonian independence), her husband continued doing business with Russia despite the sanctions and she definitely is not the sharpest pencil in the box

    @raringvee2597@raringvee25973 ай бұрын
    • bS she is clearly very smart and hawkish against Russia. We do not bear the burden of our forefathers otherwise everybody has a debt to pay.

      @13BulliTs@13BulliTs3 ай бұрын
    • Allegations are not facts. Unless you have proof of her father's theft, it is mere rumour. If her husband still does business with Russia, then he should face whatever legal/criminal charges brought to him. She should not have to pay for his sins nor her father's.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london2 ай бұрын
  • Latvia exPrime minister Krisjanis Karins have Latvia and USA citizenship. Latvia spend more then 2% of GDP for defense.

    @matrixberzins465@matrixberzins4654 ай бұрын
  • Now that is something, to fly with fighter jets escorts everywhere you go is prestige like the US president.

    @D_isco_D_ancer@D_isco_D_ancer4 ай бұрын
  • i cant believe von der leyen is in the running for this job, how is someone so incompetent so regarded ?

    @shutup2751@shutup27514 ай бұрын
    • She's excellent! It's your judgement which is off?

      @sebastianwrites@sebastianwrites4 ай бұрын
    • @@sebastianwrites No serious geopolitical expert agrees with you.

      @mistressfreezepeach@mistressfreezepeach4 ай бұрын
    • @@sebastianwrites She's insane! It's your judgement which is off?

      @mistressfreezepeach@mistressfreezepeach4 ай бұрын
    • She’s a descendant of the Albrecht family, so she’s political royalty.

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • Her incompentence is what US needs.

      @sneakymove@sneakymove4 ай бұрын
  • Surely the recently redundant PM of Finland, Sanna Marin, should be in the running, as a Pro-NATO (signed Finland up), former Head of Government, who exceeded NATO's 2% of GDP mandate, is from an eastern european country, with a long land border with Russia, and last time i checked the Wiki, still a Women.

    @AndrewRoberts11@AndrewRoberts114 ай бұрын
  • Ben Wallace would do a good job. Defense minded.

    @brand8590@brand85904 ай бұрын
    • No Brexiteer from the Brexit party sorry.

      @gaborrajnai6213@gaborrajnai62134 ай бұрын
    • @@gaborrajnai6213 Who cares, done is done. Stop whining and get on with it. Britain can make its own future. Not like they haven't done it before.

      @brand8590@brand85904 ай бұрын
    • ​@@gaborrajnai6213 The UK outside the EU with Ben Wallace as Defence Secretary acted much faster than the EU when Orkistan invaded Ukraine. Individual EU countries from the former eastern block also reacted quickly, but the 'major powers' took months to react in any meaningful way. The UK were flying NLAWs directly into Ukraine avoiding German airspace in the days prior to 24th Feb 2022. Please don't confuse the EU with Europe, the UK is part of Europe and will defend Europe.

      @gordonmac3616@gordonmac36164 ай бұрын
    • @@gordonmac3616 You confuse UK's role with NATO's role. UK can send arms and weapons to any country without having to consult other nations. NATO can't make any decision, however major, unless agreed to unanimously by all its members. Having a British person heading NATO is not going to change that - it is embedded in the NATO Charter. Look at what Turkey and Hungary have been doing regarding Sweden's membership to NATO.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london3 ай бұрын
    • @@MTMF.london I was not comparing UK to NATO if you read my comment properly. The UK reacted very quickly as did several former eastern block countries within the EU. Some of the larger militaries within the EU and NATO, most notably France and Italy, by comparison, have provided very little. The EU as a whole have been constrained until recently by Orbans Hungary for almost two years.

      @gordonmac3616@gordonmac36163 ай бұрын
  • It's not hard. It's gonna be Kaja Kallas, PM of Estonia.

    @realhawaii5o@realhawaii5o4 ай бұрын
    • I dont care either way. As long as its someone who keeps a calm and clear head and gets along with everyone enough. Male, female, east, west, north, south, center

      @Redisia@Redisia4 ай бұрын
    • Gets along with people, at what cost?@@Redisia Democracy has decreased around the world for the last "17 years..." because we are not prepared to fight for it, like we should be!

      @sebastianwrites@sebastianwrites4 ай бұрын
    • As an American I believe David Cameron would be a good guy for the job

      @izzymaxpower@izzymaxpower4 ай бұрын
    • It should be Oprah

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • @@sebastianwritesso what u think they should do build a coalition to discipline does that don’t follow democracy .

      @adrieljaquez156@adrieljaquez1564 ай бұрын
  • Kaja Kallas is NATO heroine for sure. She is already called the war princess.

    @Jaanakool2@Jaanakool24 ай бұрын
    • But her husband does business with Russia.

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
    • 3 percent of nothing is still nothing. Estonia doesnt even have a military jet. And Kallas is a nobody, she is playing her barking from her well heated luxury appartment.

      @gaborrajnai6213@gaborrajnai62134 ай бұрын
  • Other puppy 😂😂

    @Pheakday69@Pheakday694 ай бұрын
  • Donald Duck would make a much better job! 😂😂😂😂😂

    @fingerprint8479@fingerprint84794 ай бұрын
  • it needs one that wants no expantion drift but a strenghten drift....

    @BransMaarten@BransMaarten3 ай бұрын
  • Can’t he stay longer?

    @tabithan2978@tabithan29784 ай бұрын
  • Because, you’re always under fire

    @Sonnypaul1@Sonnypaul14 ай бұрын
  • 5:50 what? why would everyone get the same vote? Not everyone brings the same value.

    @goldmansachs8881@goldmansachs88814 ай бұрын
    • What kind of Value? USA doesnt need any of the NATO members militaries its all strategic and not let them get taken by Russia or anyone else. The Baltics and Finland make up a huge border with Russia but the Baltics dont have much to offer other than that. Sure Finland has a large military but its nothing amazing tbh. The UK is valuable right? No they are waaaay under what they need to spend their military is very disfunctional. Same goes for most of the other NATO members for one reason or another. So Back to it, what value?

      @svampen7782@svampen77823 ай бұрын
  • case of raking through the kompromat held

    @turquoiseowl@turquoiseowl4 ай бұрын
  • Becuase they made such a mess that nobody is ready to come and clean up. The person shoild also be a submessive person with no own opinion

    @rouz0@rouz04 ай бұрын
    • Tell me what mess they made. Fyi, it wasn't NATO that promised NATO membership to Ukraine, it was the US.

      @hevnervals@hevnervals3 ай бұрын
    • Russia is the instigator and thus the one creating the mess, support for Ukraine is an individual thing, NATO is just monitoring the conflict as a potential security threat.

      @ShadowTani@ShadowTani3 ай бұрын
  • Its gonna be hard to replace Him. Boundless energy

    @frankcherry3810@frankcherry38104 ай бұрын
    • He totally underestimated Russia, he is an incompetent

      @bfyrth@bfyrth4 ай бұрын
    • @@bfyrth i dont see it that way at all. He is Just the Chairman of all the NATO members… not the Boss. The members… All of them, are responsible for the present state of NATO

      @frankcherry3810@frankcherry38104 ай бұрын
    • @@bfyrth He did not. Russia has already annexed Crimea before he was appointed. He was the one who tried to get NATO members to up their defence spending afterwards and tried to get more military support to Ukraine. US, France and Germany were the leading countries who either ignore the threat or underestimated the Russians.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london2 ай бұрын
  • next after Rutte should be Mitsotakis

    @questmarq7901@questmarq79014 ай бұрын
  • Military language “ you are dismissed “

    @2804Holly@2804Holly4 ай бұрын
  • Anyone else think that the male reporter looks a bit like the character 'Sportacus' from the tv-show 'Lazy Town' played by the actor Magnús Scheving?

    @cptmarcus@cptmarcus3 ай бұрын
  • Only stand like them😊

    @nazirediarra5966@nazirediarra59663 ай бұрын
  • Please let it NOT be Mark Rutte as he has continuous "I can't recall" issue (in other words.. he has a habit to forget important conversations)

    @RobertWelling@RobertWelling3 ай бұрын
  • Think Norway are happy that he stayed. They recruited Nicolai Tangen to manage oljefonden instead of Stoltenberg. Very competent man.

    @fredrikhagstrom9444@fredrikhagstrom94444 ай бұрын
    • They recruited Tangen after Stoltenberg could not take up the post as his position as SG of NATO was extended again.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london2 ай бұрын
  • Ms. Von der Leyen is the best choice. We will have ecological army. Without tanks, because they didn't pass CO2 emotion. Not even horses as we can't abuse animals.

    @misiu9049@misiu90493 ай бұрын
  • Trudeau's available, and he comes with his own wardrobe.

    @jamesneveaux4892@jamesneveaux48924 ай бұрын
    • I wonder how the F16 fleet would look with a pink paintjob.

      @gaborrajnai6213@gaborrajnai62134 ай бұрын
    • @@gaborrajnai6213 Pink would look nice.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.londonАй бұрын
  • Someone with more than 10 braincells

    @madaz56@madaz564 ай бұрын
  • nd no one remembers the residents of the Free Republics of Donbass, the residents of Crimea... They only think about the Kyiv junta, which seized power in 2014

    @maikl1080@maikl10803 ай бұрын
  • Duracell bunny. Lol

    @yomajo@yomajo4 ай бұрын
  • We hope its not de formal Dutch premier!!!

    @bartdevries904@bartdevries9043 ай бұрын
    • He wins every debate.

      @mstar501@mstar5013 ай бұрын
  • Our Dutch prime Minister Mark Rutte is in the Race..

    @f.jgouda810@f.jgouda8103 ай бұрын
  • That UN Secretary General had a very difficult job that I would not take for any salary !

    @richardsimms251@richardsimms2513 ай бұрын
  • I think it should be Andrzej Duda, after he completes his term as President of Poland.

    @user-px6ch7fg7w@user-px6ch7fg7w3 ай бұрын
  • Rutte is the only one that can deal with Trump if reelected.

    @mstar501@mstar5013 ай бұрын
  • They should spend more.

    @techserve4453@techserve44533 ай бұрын
  • Hi Gavin

    @jaimkaan9914@jaimkaan99143 ай бұрын
  • No one wants to clean up the mess he has created.

    @lukeliem9216@lukeliem92164 ай бұрын
    • Why bother cleaning up? NATO is about creating mess.

      @sneakymove@sneakymove4 ай бұрын
    • The mess was made by your Russian daddy, comrade.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.londonАй бұрын
  • Biden might be available soon.

    @rockapedra1130@rockapedra11304 ай бұрын
    • Biden has no problem destroying the whole world.

      @YEET-kd4en@YEET-kd4en3 ай бұрын
  • I think David Petraeus should take the job.

    @quakerninja@quakerninja4 ай бұрын
    • Because he did such a bang up job in Afghanistan and Iraq?

      @ericp1139@ericp11394 ай бұрын
  • The focus on 2% GDP is so ridiculous. Estonia could spend 100% and would still contribute only half as much to European defense as Germany does, who everybody is shitting on although they are the third-largest contributor to NATO.

    @trnogger@trnogger4 ай бұрын
    • So why is it ridiculous? GDP is the only way to compare the effort each individual country makes. We all sacrifice 2% of our wealth for our mutual security…

      @EuropeanOnion@EuropeanOnion4 ай бұрын
    • @@EuropeanOnion Erm, what? Have you ever heard of absolut spending? It makes total sense to limit smaller countries like the Baltic states to about 2% because expecting them to spend tens of billions on defense would be insane. But insisting that countries like Germany or France who are already the biggest European contributors after the UK, with Germany spending twice as much as Italy in 4th place, should increse their defense budget to meet an arbitrary goal is equally insane. Especially when they are treated as if they didn't contribute anything. If Germany would actually spend 2% of its GDP that would be a quarter of what ALL Eurpean NATO members pay together.

      @trnogger@trnogger4 ай бұрын
    • @@trnogger yes. I have heard of absolute spending. But like you explain yourself (you contradict yourself there I think): It makes no sense to compare a Baltic euro to a German of French euro. Richer countries pay more for our mutual defence. Mind you: Putin isn’t afraid of the Dutch armed forces or the Baltic armed forces. He is afraid of the combined German, French and Brittish armed forces. That is why they came up with that 2%. As arbitrary as it may seem. 2% is what the founders back then agreed upon as a minimal standard that everybody could agree on. That percentage makes it easier to compare countries. Now, I totally agree that what counts towards that 2% is arbitrary. That would be a worthwhile discussion. Pensions for retired army personel should be deducted and even VAT should be deducted. Or give NATO (or for those in the EU the European Comission) a discission what the European defence force should look like. Have countries pay for that defence force through their EU-contributions as a form of burden sharing. But European national governments are not for that step yet. Until that time 2% remains a good measuring stick.

      @EuropeanOnion@EuropeanOnion4 ай бұрын
    • @@EuropeanOnion Yeah, no. This is exactly the problem with the 2%-"rule", people like you not knowing where that even came from. First, there never was such a rule "by the founders". When NATO was founded, it was shortly after WW2 and the European nations were still getting used to the idea of letting Germany have an army at all and France was still on the fence of being a part of it. During the cold war, Germany spent 2,5 to 5% of its GDP on military, but after the Cold War ended, many European countries reduced their armed forces as the threat had reduced, only the US drove up its spending to move into the power vaccum that the fall of the Soviet Union had left - that wasn't even about defense. When Russia and China became competitors to the US again, the US suddenly started complaining that they were spending so much money while Europe did not and under pressure from the US, the 2% were set as a long-term ambition, that was only about a decade ago. But the European economy, especially for Germany and France, grew much faster since then than anticipated, and while both countries spend more than was the goal back then, they are still below the 2% line because the GDP grew so fast. In actual numbers, Germany has more than doubled its military spending over the last 20 years. But insteead of everybody admitting that the 2% were only arbitrary and that economic conditions have changed, under Trump the US started another bout about "the US is paying for European defense" (actually, the US spends only a tiny fraction of their military budget on European defense) and so the 2%-ambition was sold as a 2% commitment. That is the real story. It's all just Americasn populism.

      @trnogger@trnogger4 ай бұрын
    • @@trnogger I knew most of what you wrote but yes. You are right and I was wrong. The 2% was not agreed upon by the founding countries but was agreed upon in 2006 (according to the NATO website). Nevertheless if you want to compare efforts that countries make you will have to agree upon a standard. And that is why they agreed upon that 2%. That is what you wrote. That is what I wrote. 2% of GDP means that richer countries with higher GDP pay more. The German defence budget has more than doubled but that doesn’t mean much if the budget was - for historical reasons - to low to begin with. Now you can argue about the 2%. Define what counts towards it. But I still have not heard a case for absolute spending when it comes to comparing countries.

      @EuropeanOnion@EuropeanOnion4 ай бұрын
  • He must be a very good yes man like Stoltenberg

    @debabratabanerjee7461@debabratabanerjee74613 ай бұрын
  • HOW HE STILL BE A GENERAL WHEN HE LOST UKRAINE/NATO WAR? NEVER HEARD HIM PROTESTING AGAINST GOING AGAINST RUSSIA.

    @AndrewLambert-wi8et@AndrewLambert-wi8et3 ай бұрын
  • Oh great they have already decided it have to be some Tatcher type tough woman who feels she have something to prove to men... How about we pragmatically choose the most qualified and experienced person for this very serious job, whoever that may be? Just a suggestion...

    @1112viggo@1112viggo4 ай бұрын
  • Retain outcomes and legacy because Bavaria still still still

    @Continentalmunkey88@Continentalmunkey884 ай бұрын
  • Let Orban suggest a Russian candidate.

    @JayDeeChannel@JayDeeChannel4 ай бұрын
  • Taurus

    @marisabenson1222@marisabenson12224 ай бұрын
  • Hey uh just a quick reminder. As a german i have to say, please do not choose any of our politicians. They are all untrustworty. Thanks.

    @Chokoboh@Chokoboh4 ай бұрын
  • Someone from small countries to get all responsability for war....

    @69notic@69notic4 ай бұрын
  • Why do he resign his BOSS position?

    @NSrini1971@NSrini19714 ай бұрын
  • To jest Rotchild. Tak trudno zrozumieć.

    @papi5377@papi53773 ай бұрын
  • Orban would be great in that role

    @zsolttalloczy5222@zsolttalloczy52223 ай бұрын
    • 🤣🤣🤣

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london2 ай бұрын
  • Stoltenberg should go to jail!!!

    @Bigworm007@Bigworm0074 ай бұрын
  • If it needs unanimous support, I cannot see a decent leader being approved while Turkey, and especially Hungary, are in the alliance

    @lif6737@lif67374 ай бұрын
  • We need strong man no doubts.

    @joaquinpelfortevergreen8893@joaquinpelfortevergreen88933 ай бұрын
  • I could do it!

    @Shaddarhim@Shaddarhim4 ай бұрын
  • The guy needs to chill out and retire.

    @user-gr5cn3vk9x@user-gr5cn3vk9x4 ай бұрын
  • Jen should stay amid a turmoil world with Tyrant Putin in lunatic trigger happy mood!

    @keewng@keewng4 ай бұрын
    • Why is Putin one of the best presidents to be a tyrant?

      @ralfduttenhofer957@ralfduttenhofer9574 ай бұрын
  • The want to place Von Derlayen

    @_Merovingio@_Merovingio4 ай бұрын
  • US should not determine EU business

    @monamarples9264@monamarples92643 ай бұрын
    • The US is also a NATO member.

      @gr1mrea9er82@gr1mrea9er823 ай бұрын
  • The US must be having trouble finding such a loyal toady as Stoltenberg.

    @nedludd7622@nedludd76224 ай бұрын
    • Yes, Vlad.

      @MTMF.london@MTMF.london3 ай бұрын
    • Rutte is a loyal lapdog as well. Has no own opinion at all.

      @YEET-kd4en@YEET-kd4en3 ай бұрын
  • Rumen Radev! ❤

    @datanewsanalysis@datanewsanalysis4 ай бұрын
  • Hire Ben Wallace. Smart and has integrity. RS. Canada

    @richardsimms251@richardsimms2513 ай бұрын
  • It will replace him

    @mareksbesprozvannijs3463@mareksbesprozvannijs34634 ай бұрын
  • Ok.?.betet

    @leonidghiletchi6821@leonidghiletchi6821Ай бұрын
  • As a Dutchman, I will lose all my faith in Nato when he gets the job. This man was involved is so many political scandals, broken promises and other bad things. If the baltics get attacked Rutte will probably have "no active memories" of having promised to defend them and will probably make a deal with Putin even though that's the exact opposite of what he promised when he needed support for the job. Resulting screwing the baltics or even worse. He also prioritizes personal opinions over what's better for everyone. So if he dislikes someome but them working together can result is something that makes the world better, he would chose to not work on in.

    @batty8385@batty83853 ай бұрын
  • Sanna Marin! She is awesome!

    @TheGttttt@TheGttttt3 ай бұрын
  • me

    @patrickstar686@patrickstar6864 ай бұрын
  • explicitly stated systemic sexism.

    @Bushodai@Bushodai4 ай бұрын
  • "It should be a woman" ehhh no... It should be someone who is qualified, more so overqualified. And about meeting the 2% has nothing to do with this particular position idk why anyone would ever factor that into it. Like what? Lets say there is someone who is perfect for the role but "Ahhh his country doesnt pay the 2%" tf?

    @svampen7782@svampen77823 ай бұрын
  • ANYONE WILL BE BETTER THAN THE MESSY STOLTENBERG!

    @gheorghefalcaru@gheorghefalcaru4 ай бұрын
  • Not Rutte!!!!!!

    @user-tp2os8gu8o@user-tp2os8gu8o4 ай бұрын
  • Pray that it will not be a hidden Communist.

    @KatyYoder-cq1kc@KatyYoder-cq1kc29 күн бұрын
  • Van Der Leyen have most brain. Difficult ro replace Stoltenberg.

    @ovejohanromstad8575@ovejohanromstad85754 ай бұрын
  • Just not canada.

    @dailydrivenmuscle.@dailydrivenmuscle.4 ай бұрын
    • I thought about Canada.

      @gaborrajnai6213@gaborrajnai62134 ай бұрын
  • Von der Leyen is also a woman, and not too many people tend to take her serious globally..

    @silentdriver666@silentdriver6664 ай бұрын
  • Yep it’s difficult to find the loyal liar.

    @adnewworkneh4990@adnewworkneh49904 ай бұрын
  • Quisling.

    @pellenyberg@pellenyberg3 ай бұрын
  • this isn't an important position NATO do what USA wants anyway, this guy just hold papers, make speeches aligned with USA needs, there is no such thing of leader of NATO

    @PepeCoinMania@PepeCoinMania3 ай бұрын
  • Wher i am،? Wher is chines?

    @leonidghiletchi6821@leonidghiletchi6821Ай бұрын
  • Whoever will, makes no difference.

    @viktorsmazurs9741@viktorsmazurs97414 ай бұрын
  • Danish PM Mette Frederiksen is an excellent candidate for the job. She made some strong decisions during the pandemic and she was one of the first state leaders to send weapons to Ukraine. She was also able to calm Trump down when he got mad because she refused to sell Greenland to the USA. She is also a Bilderberger. I think she is a good choice. I am Norwegian and i approve this message. 👍

    @hansmarheim7620@hansmarheim76203 ай бұрын
    • Lucky she destroyed that herself when she were talking with Pentagon and Congress in US :D

      @madselmvig1457@madselmvig14573 ай бұрын
    • @@madselmvig1457 She did not.

      @hansmarheim7620@hansmarheim76203 ай бұрын
    • @@hansmarheim7620 Yes she did, it were both reported in Danish and US news. When she visited Biden and talked to Congress and Pentagon, she went on a bizarre rant about Green Energy, equal rights and LGBT rights. Now these are rights we hold dear in Denmark, however in NATO that is really not something they want to hear about. Especially the GOP part of Congress. So she were out again.

      @madselmvig1457@madselmvig14573 ай бұрын
    • @@madselmvig1457 Ok, if you say so i believe you. But i still think she's a good candidate. 😉

      @hansmarheim7620@hansmarheim76203 ай бұрын
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