Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein - We've Been Deceived by Multiculturalism
2024 ж. 25 Нау.
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Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein discuss the notion that we've been duped by multiculturalism, and the difference between multiculturalism and western cosmopolitanism.
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Answer: "Multiculturalism" as realized in our everyday lives and mass media propaganda is one ideological facet of Western "Globalist" Maritime Imperialism. Make sense now? Yes! Now this "makes sense." To be realistic and sincere, any competing "uniculturalism" has yet to be defined and historically identified. In fact, we have yet to define "culture" as something more than a convenient pronoun like "this" and "that." For example, 3-channel post-WW2 TV broadcast advertising was not "uniculturalism."
Melbourne, Australia equated the two, long before - 40 years ago - the Rest of the West decided to eat itself inside out with this intellectual muck.
not really, it all leads to globalism and global tyranny. Most people were not benefactors of cosmopolitanism, only the elites was. Cosmopolitanism does not work in practice and is rejected by the working class.
Many nations have multiculturalism. India also has a Christian populace, and a Muslim populace. Relatively large ones. The issue is the western elites(and other elites) use every tool to try to control the total domestic marketshare, and global marketshare. The controller aspect of the system really is only meant to strategize for the system, and individuals are supposed to have ownership. However, they are going with a communist type strategy to assume control, but implementing it in a democratic western system. Basically, don't blame the player, blame the controller of the game(the controlled rigged the game for themselves against the individual).
We are told to respect the incomers but the incomers are never told to respect the values of the host nation.
a small amount of imm of vetted people with skills to offer will be ok because they will be accepted into the society..whats happening now is trechery by a certain "group" that have complete control of all the systems that hold power
Hence the importance of immigrants assimilating into the country.
Bingo!!
Good fences make good neighbors.
Fences make good neighbours but piss off delivery drivers.
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@@gormenfreeman499 Reasonable trade.
What a load of crap..
LOL :D epic. at least your honest.
I was never deceived. It was never going work in the long term and the history of humanity is a simple lesson to learn. Humans like to assemble into populations that share, language, culture, values, traditions, and a shared vision of the future.
Transhumanism cults like Claus Schwab has in the WEF totally believes man is moldable.
Whites* and then stay in you're country no problem.
That’s what the chip implants are for.
Ironically, multiculturalism doesn't nearly take culture seriously enough. It imagines that we can all maximize our differences, but all of those differences will always turn out to be tame, benign, and ultimately compatible with a basic, vanilla, Western, democratic humanism. The truth is that people's cultures have very serious and incommensurable values and objectives, sometimes. Failure to address those differences is just absurdly irresponsible.
America is multicultural so is India. It works pretty good those are two of the biggest and most influential places on the planet
@@ivywoodxrecordsActually, those are far from advanced "multicultural" countries. Try France or Canada or Australia, if you want to see how smoothly it's going in advanced conditions. There are well-adapting cultures, and very poorly-adapting ones.
And when it comes to cultural diversity in leadership it becomes even more narrow. Ethnically diverse trustfund kids who all went to the same universities and didn't spend a day of their life knowing what it's like to be in a middle class household.
Which is why culture is prescribed to us by the screen
@jackwindensky5606 religious doctrines and values are the first that come to my mind. Islam would be a good cut and dry example of an incommensurate value system when it comes to cultural cohesion.
Diversity everywhere results in the end of diversity. Ironic, isn't it?
But ends racism as well.
@@TheTruthhasbeenspoken But for which group?
The word diversity has been hijacked. Aren't humans already diverse? The problem starts with creating artificial hardliness (black americans) and attributing qualities or guilt(white America's, or men) based in that criteria alone. Humans are so much richer than our color or sex. And that distinction should not be used to separate us. Yet it is so convenient and useful for politicians, media, academics... who thrive on on segmenting us.
Hahaha no it won't.
That is the problem, cultures still persist and hate each other in a multicultural setting. Look at the Jew/Palestinian debacle happening not in Israel, but in your own back yard...
Multiculturalism of cuisine and benign celebrations is fine. Multiculturalism of morality is the problem. The west is playing with fire with the morality part.
You cannot bring in people to effect the one without being tempted to bring in more to affect the other. Give a Jew a homeland...
I said this to my local MP (Conservative) and was ignored.
@@Zanuka Its because America and its offshoots (modern Europe) are based on the premise that Multiculturism of morality is a fundamental tenant of their whole system. Freedom of religion is same shit. You guys are so fucking dumb with this shit you just parrot shit Douglas Murray said in an interview its embarassing
Exactly, don’t have a problem with Chinatown but I have a big problem with Chinese students waiving communist China flags whilst telling people they can’t record music in train stations.
@@Zanuka The West is hardly in a position to lecture on morality.
We’ve been ‘deceived’ end of.
And betrayed.
It has been that way since man crawled out of the slime
They cannot be integrated peacefully. They are too greedy and too murderous. The people of Canaan couldn't, the Egyptians couldn't, the Romans couldn't, the Greek couldn't, the empires of the Middle Ages couldn't, the proto-nations of the Enlightment couldn't, the nations of classical Europe couldn't, the nations of Modern Europe couldn't, and USA couldn't either. Time to clean out the State Deparment.
And our social security money has been spent on wars we didn’t sign up for
One word to describe this, balkanization.
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Seriously man it's happening fast in Canada. We have a housing crisis much worst in the states. We have junkies everywhere, that was enough on its own. People have less money and less opportunity and there's literally junkies in our back yards. Then Trudeau brings in an absurd volume of immigrants. Half of the boomers retired, and most of the born here's work from home. It's like a whole other country just tookover half of our society. Understandably it was sped up by covid, but the cultural difference is insane. Add to the fact social integration isn't mathematically an option, our economic and political environment has finally gone off the rails after the trucker protests. I've never seen "Canada" ever be so remote from eachother. 2017 Canada was like a whole other planet.
Your people bought into it
Please explain.
One word: J-E-W-S.
The West is degenerating extremely fast. It is really sad to watch it. We used to have American Exceptionalism. Now it is 'Pride to be Victim'
American's are so lucky in this. Canada jumped the shark since covid with immigration, all of a sudden we're learning what the Euros have been complaining about for 20 years. The going narrative was that Europe couldn't adapt to immigrants the way in which we could. Turns out nah, we're exactly the same, we didn't happen to have enough of the wrong kind of immigrants.
What is or was American Exceptionalism? Is there a definition for it?
@@jewulo American exceptionalism is the belief that the United States is either distinctive, unique, or exemplary compared to other nations and is based on the spirit and determination of individuals working hard to pursue happiness in whatever way suits them in a nation of values that encourages this, which created the greatest nation on the planet... It is all being destroyed now, but it is that attitude that got us where we are until the late 1980s
@@travisjazzbo3490stereotypes don’t come from thin air :)
@@ModestestRUST I agree 100% and we (America) is dramatically lowering our standards most particularly to one demographic which is a big way we are being destroyed by polices to create apathy and hate and division and anti-American sentiment
I used to live in Moscow, near the University of East. Anyone could study there, however it was created in soviet years, to open a school for Eastern cultural students, free education for all. For that matter, to see black and asian people was normal to us. However, we knew that they were gusts in our home, and in time they will go back. There was never any disrespect towards them or vice versa, no misconduct, no measure whose culture was better or worst. It was totally normal for us being on our cultural element to accept, observe and befriend people who were foreign for us, but never there was sense of forced integration / merge. We knew who we were, they knew who they were. We knew we were at home, they knew they were guests who respected our home. Territorial culture is important. Culture is based on centuries long traditions. Nowdays traditions are being removed from people's lives, leaving us bare.
If your best reason for your values is "they're the traditions of people who look like me", they aren't good values. Values should be pursued based on the genuine conviction they are good, not because they were assigned to you at birth based on a genetic meat lottery.
How would you have been treated if you were speaking well about the United States and Capitalism at this university? My guess is the KGB would have paid you a visit and a Gulag would be in your future.
You missed the entire point of the video.
Culture contains the unwritten "rules" which people who never met each other need in order to function cohesively in society. Different cultures equates different "rules". Multiculturalism is in other words antithetical to high social cohesion, which in turn necessitate 1st-world societies.
Several years ago a friend, originally from The Netherlands, came to see me. It was probably 30 years since we saw each other last. We met originally as students at Cal Poly, Pomona both studying agribusiness. She flew into San Diego, drove a car north to Los Angeles and then headed east all the way to Palm Springs, California. After several drinks at my favorite watering hole, she said to me as we went to a favorite casino, "If I didn't know any better, I'd say I was in Mexico." I said to her, "You are." She couldn't believe how "Left" California had become. We recently reconnected and I told her of our plans to settle in Wyoming. When our congressional seat went Democrat, we decided to move. (As it stands today, the Dems have a better than 4 to 1 ratio in the House.) After a long pause, she said to me, referencing her atheist points of view, "You know, maybe I'll join you in Wyoming. Our Muslim population is destroying our country--and were not going to tolerate it any more." We both laughed and I said to her, "See you in Casper." Thanks for reading. Read more
I've been saying for over 20 years: America may be a "melting pot", but I ain't melting!
Since I came to USA, after 5 years, I knew everything around is bullshit despite the laws in the country that promote diversity, I have experienced echo chambers in many ways, from going to college to work! I can tell you one thing, diversity doesn't exit.
It was originally intended to be a melting pot only for whites and specifically whites alone period in 1790 Thomas.Jefferson wrote the first naturalization act which said that one must be a free white person to become a citizen of the united states. That immigration act was basically in effect until Nineteen sixty five.
The people who push this are rich liberals who live in gated communities that aren't diverse. It's diversity for thee but not for me.
I grew up in an extremely multicultural school. So diverse in fact that I was the only English person in my class, in England. If multiculturalism was going to work ANYWHERE then it would work between children, who have little to no context of global history or politics. Yet, it didn't work. It just didn't work. The Indian kids hung out with the Indian kids. The SE Asian kids hung out with the SE Asian kids. The Somalians hung out with the other Somalians. There was a bit of crossover around the edges where kids hung out with others who looked similar to them. But overall mixing was very minimal and superficial. Compared to properly English schools, people left with very small friendship groups. It wasn't an exercise in diversity, it was an exercise in creating division. It's a political project, to create the most fragmented society possible. A modern form of divide and conquer.
sorry but kids are extremely influenced by their parents. They haven't even had time to experience much else yet. Theyre also looking for clues for appropriate behavior and in some cases being harshly disciplined or lectured by their parents. Kids are kinda the last people who are going to figure it out if theyre going home to extremely different environments.
@@cjayroughgarden1520 the last people? Err, they're literally growing up in the UK and have exposure beyond their own community far more than their parents typically do. The second generation are the ones who learn English better and have more exposure to the mainstream culture and to the most people of other cultures. They also have the least premonition and predetermination of behaviour so are the demographic where multiculturalism is MOST likely to work. They are the ones growing up with some form of shared experience with other children of other cultures and so therefore there is some shared culture. There is no such thing as multiculture, though, which is why it doesn't work. It's an invention. There is your culture, there is my culture, there is shared culture, and through shared culture there grows new culture. There is no "multiculture".
I think it can work, but only at a very slow pace over multiple generations.
@ but that's not multiculturalism, that's assimilation.
Well, at least you survived!
Now let’s talk about who is funding and pushing for multiculturalism
Jeeewwwwwwws
Evidence please @@ep-79
@@trevorallen183 KALERGI PLAN
Bankers
@@trevorallen183 If you mention the "evidence" on youtube, the comment will be censored.
YES visit all the great places and cultures around the world but don't try and merge cultures, no one is happy living amongst people that don't share your traditions and values, it leads to confrontation and ill will.
I would rather be around people that are just like me.
In that case, clone yourself.
Thomas Sowell covered this real nice years ago
Isn't it strange that so many of these people in the mainstream and alternative media seem to pretend that Thomas Sowell doesn't exist despite his writing and speaking about these very issues for the past several decades.
@@TRUTHSAYER9000 They would prefer that we know nothing of Thomas Sowell.
I’m glad these guys are talking about this, but I myself who isn’t an intellectual influencer have new this stuff years ago. You cannot have a multicultural nation, we have a culture in America, based on the constitution and bill of rights, freedom and liberty. You can indeed have a diverse population who shares and includes their cultures in America, but there has to be a foundation or the entire thing collapses.
Can you point to this unicorn nation that it existed some place in history for more than 100 years
Yes. We need to write a book explaining what is our American culture. We have been letting people “appropriate” our culture because we think it is worth sharing. But we have also let people come here to disrespect and destroy our culture. Why do we say people need better boundaries but then say our culture isn’t allowed to have any?
@@kkrenken895 how would you even stop anyone from appropriating culture
Dieversity is NOT a strength! They knew this 2000 years ago. "For Aristotle, democracy is possible only within homogeneous ethnic groups, while despots have always reigned over highly fragmented societies. A multi-ethnic society is thus necessarily anti-democratic and chaotic, for it lacks philia, this profound, flesh-and-blood fraternity of citizens. Tyrants and despots divide and rule, they want the City divided by ethnic rivalries. The indispensable condition for ensuring a people's sovereignty accordingly resides in its unity". Democracy only works if people have similar culture, religion, ethnicity. Multiculturalism / Dieversity is used to divide and conquer.
You are deeply confused because you can't understand the difference between groups and individuals.
It feels like some social leviathan is playing God with our lives in order to collect the resulting pain. All I dream about is getting away from those who’ve done this. Watching communities turn to ash before my eyes, sometimes in literal blazes, scattering to the wind the few grains of trust judiciously gathered over hundreds of years, only to satisfy some bureaucratic checkbox in the name of testing out what happens if one repeatedly spits upon the immortal principles of family, kinship, identity, free association and community.
The leviathan is the Zionist order
Need Peterson to interview Jared Taylor now.
Yes 👏
I have always phrased this argument as follows: The 'down the pub' meaning of multiculturalism - getting on with people - is very different from the leftist political theory of hating 'mono cultures' and as well described by Bret. And here we have a perfect example of the type of equivocation, more specifically the informal logical fallacy that is the Motte and Bailey. And you see this type of 'oh we didn't mean that but this' across all left wing theories. I think it is one of the ways 'they' avoid cognitive dissonance. This way of thinking also marries well with the nigh on nonsense language use of post modernism. I am a UK citizen. My Father came from Scandinavia. He always maintained the idea of 'when in Rome', and while he decided to never take British citizenship, and that he was a guest (even though married to my Mother) and should assimilate/adapt. This in no way impacted how I learned about, and experienced, stories, traditional dishes and so forth.
He’s still missing that it’s values (and a spirit/energy behind them) and some are “better” than others
Better.....for whom?
"Values" is yet another de facto pronoun hardly better than "that" or "what I like." The term "values" became popular in early 20th century English. "Multiculturalism" as realized in our daily lives and mass media propaganda is one ideological facet of "Globalist" Western Maritime Imperialism. Nothing more. Nothing less.@@mesenteria
@@mesenteria Objectively more successful at producing societal health.
@@mesenteria Better for the majority of a nation, be it racial, religious, cultural, or political. Foreign influence always seeks dominance to cultureform a host country in its own image; doesn't matter if it's colonizers or refugees.
Live and let live and the system is separate from that. Separation of church and state. Its the whole premise. You guys are moving backwards
It's so important to be able to communicate well. One of my takeaways from this exchange.
I’ll always remember these new rules coming in 20 odd years ago when I worked in HR about minorities and ‘hurt feelings’ and thought then that they just seemed so ridiculous, but now here we are. Little steps.
“…under attack from people who would fetishise our differences”. Great choice of words.
Honestly What does he even mean?
@@JK-uo3pd People who think different races need their own dorms, for instance.
"The West is a flower that bloomed only once in history"
Disagree it has blossomed and waned many times.
While the rest of the world is so envious of the flower they seek to destroy it.
@@johnpruett2255 yup when you can't have something you tend to want it gone
Bret was just getting on a roll when Jordan cut him off and did the "you will listen to me now" JBP Trademark thing.
Yep...annoying & rude.
Who cares Both are deflecting And Bret is out to lunch on this
Under Multiculturalism there are no single STANDARDS to simplify conflicts and unite everyone to an agreed way of doing things. Examples of multicultural standards that fracture cultures are everyone driving on a different side of the road, metric versus English measuring systems, multiple spoken languages that create a Tower of Babel. One agreed upon system simplifies and unites a culture. Multiple systems to accomplish the same thing confuses, cost more to maintain, and creates friction, confusion and chaos.
Exactly, divide and conquer.
The entire point of multiculturalism is to create a scenario where tribes self-govern, as is the case in Eurasia, Africa, et al, since time immemorial, with few half-baked exceptions. Americanism has brought cosmopolitanism nearest to the zenith, which is why Stalin condemned cosmopolitanism as the root of all evil -- ironically, sewing the seeds of the ethnic divisiveness that ultimately destroyed the Soviet Union, and will also destroy Han supremacy in China in due time. That worldview is the exact opposite of the western empire: "a universal system of justice for all mankind", as Virgil put it correctly, and which the U.S. constitution of 1789 began to put into practice today. Search the U.S. constitution for a tribal designation. You will fail. The United States of America is the only country in the world that doesn't specify a tribe in its name, by design.
Look up the Hart-Celler act of 1965.
and the allegiances of the handful of people that got it passed
@@WillyEckaslike It only takes a handful of people to pass an act of Congress?
@@Dennis-nc3vw 1. Senator Jacob Javits (NY) 2. Congressman Emanuel Celler (NY) 3. Leo Pfeffer (Former President of American D wish Congress (A*C) 4. Norman Podhoretz (Writer and Member of The Council of Foreign Relations) * Senator Jacob Javits played a prominent role in the Senate hearings on the 1965 bill. Javits authored an article entitled ‘Let’s open the gates’ that proposedimm levels of 500,000 per year for 20 years with no restrictions onnational origin.
No nation paid a high price for genetic relatedness. Instead, they reaped a host of benefits. America has built lots of wealth because it is not a nation, it is a business. It values money before people and community.
This
A liberal Swedish professor did the only study on diversity. His conclusion, to his disappointment, was it didn’t work out well for a society. The mistrust caused people to “hunker down”.
there has never been a sucessfulMC society in history nor a matriarchal system...why?..because people like many other animals are tribal by nature
Works well for the Globalists who are profiteering from it though... An opportunity to capitalise under the guise of humanitarianism... You have to stand back in awe at the shrewdness to pull it off!
Nope-> You have been deceived…I was not 🤷♂️
Seeing two well-dressed men of intellect having a civil discussion on a controversial topic is quite refreshing.
Not really they're just changing the conversation when Society is now vulnerable
What discussion?
I think what “universality” neglects is aesthetics. Universality is boring. Appearance eventually become the source and the source becomes appearance.
Who’s your “we”?
Love having these guys on at the same time
Where can I find the longer video from where this came? I don’t pay for DW so if anyone has the link that’d be very helpful 👌🏼
Not “we’ve been deceived” but “YOU” have been. Many saw this coming years ago.
Multiethnicity also has many problems, but that's too much for people in the mainstream. So millions will suffer immensely instead of talking about it.
Can u explain?
@@markwilkie7633 different ethnicities have vastly different intelligence, physical force, interests, impulse control, tendency towards violence and crime, etc etc. Homogenous societies are way better in a number of different ways. They are more efficient and better at defending themselves from external threats. But perhaps the most important aspect to note is that if everyone you interact with is somewhat similar to you, you develop feelings of kinship, patriotism, and love/care for your society. If you are surrounded by people who are vastly different to you, you develop the opposite attitudes, and soon everyone is trying to scam one another and doing other antisocial things. Because of those feelings the heterogenous population is much easier to control, which is why we have these wonderful multicultural societies with open borders today.
@@markwilkie7633 also the reason they are different is that those are the traits that matched their ancestral environment. So the fact you have a multiethnic society by definition means you have a lot of people whose traits are completely mismatched with their environment. You might have violent people in a peaceful society, not intelligent people in a mostly digital society, people with high melanin content in a society with low levels of sunlight, etc etc. This causes all sorts of issues.
As an aside, Sowell has discussed this at length for years. Jordan has followed and discussed the causes and on-set of socialism/communism/nazism. Bret jumped on board when it was convenient.
Well not everyone was deceived though. It is obvious that multi cultural is not good. Because by design it will change and destroy the existing culture and the invading culture (from the people who migrate). Additionally if the people who migrate are not better than the average people already living in that nation and that nation has an existing social system, like pension, health care and so on. Then these people will become a burden. And if you cause mass migration of people who are like the average or even below the average then you will destroy the system of that nation. There are massive NGOs in the back some who are called "think tanks". And if you think about this do these people really don't know that it will cause this to happen? The answer is they most likely with a very very high chance do. And if that is the case then they destabilize us by design in all areas. Here is a description in terms of the "communist" tactics. For this if you haven't watched it yet, watch Yuri Bezmenov's lecture about Subversion from the year 1983. Compare what he said 41 years ago with the things happening today. And here is a partial translation from a german article: Spiegel, 26.12.1999 article by Dirk Koch. Title: " Die Brüsseler Republik " First a direct quote in german from the article: " Im 21. Jahrhundert wächst der europäische Bundesstaat heran. Er wird ein Multikulti-Staatsvolk von wenigstens 440 Millionen Menschen umfassen. Jean-Claude Juncker ist ein pfiffiger Kopf. »Wir beschließen etwas, stellen das dann in den Raum und warten einige Zeit ab, was passiert«, verrät der Premier des kleinen Luxemburg über die Tricks, zu denen er die Staats- und Regierungschefs der EU in der Europapolitik ermuntert. »Wenn es dann kein großes Geschrei gibt und keine Aufstände, weil die meisten gar nicht begreifen, was da beschlossen wurde, dann machen wir weiter - Schritt für Schritt, bis es kein Zurück mehr gibt.«" And here is a quick translation of it. "The european state is going to grow in the 21 century. It will be a multi cultural state with multicultural people with at least 440 million humans. Jean-Claude Juncker is a smart mind. »We decide something and then we leave it be and wait until some time has passed to see what is going to happen«, reveals the prime minister of the small Luxemburg about the tricks in which he encourages the head of the states and the head of the government in the EU for european politics. »If there is no big uproar or no riots because most people don't understand what had been decided then we continue - Step by step until there is no turning back." Then later the article had revealed that they did that for the Euro (€) currency. These people who "rule" us are d[..]sgusting pieces of sh...
as a Native American I want my traditions of dance, music, stories, ceremonies to continue to evolve and grow for our youth. colonization has robbed us of many of the traditions already and its important for those traditions to survive as part of our cultural identity. we must modernize as well but only while keeping those roots in tact. its obvious that most of the modern world has NO roots.
Growing up in Canada I experienced a lot of hatred between your and my people. Interestingly, these negative experiences have brought me to empathize with who I thought was my enemy for so long. Simply, "the community I was born in is rapidly changing due to strange looking people that no one on either side had a vote on whether or not anyone wanted this."
On a personal level multiculturalism is my appropriation of whatever I fancy from wherever I delve.
This is very poetic, thankyou for your contribution.🙏
Excellent explanation by Professor Brett Weinstein regarding cooperation (more harmony / safety / property rights) and collaboration via genetic relatedness (a social psychologist would add a 'liking relationship) and also through reciprocity. This means clinging to cultural and language 'tribes' and excluding others is not a path to collaboration and cooperation. One minor correction I would make to their talk -- the US Founding Fathers did not accidentally arrive at this solution of encouraging collaboration and cooperation, they purposefully designed it (a 'commercial republic is how Akexander Hamilton described the American Founding, rather than a military- or honor- or dynastic-government).
One of the things my mother's parents brought from the old country was a work ethic. My father also was a worker but he had some emotional problems and his family Grand parents coming back from Canada were already acclimatized to the culture of the US, Canada and the US being pretty much the same regarding their habits and convictions and miss-convictions. It looks like the work ethic has mostly carried over into the 5 and 6 th generations. I keep wondering why all of a sudden the people coming in are judged to not have a work ethic, in the past the fear was they would take over jobs.
Love the firewood and yes I’m listening too
Thank you Jordon and Bret you have given some very good points some i have been thinking myself.
I'm glad we're not talking about Ivermectin at least.
Lofty theory once again with no grounding in reality. The founder amalgam was a mix of subtle differences--- and yes, they all prayed to the same God. Trying to join masses of people with nothing in common except a desire to succeed can't work in the long term. There will be isolated people who make it work. Most can't.
I personally think the bigger problem they’re seeking out is that between cooperation and coercion. The idea that we can willingly partake or are forcibly pushed. The latter has been how polities and households have survived for most of human history. Cooperation, freedom and mutuality, have flourished at various times. But while we know cooperation and mutuality are the more beneficial and sustainable, corruption, monopolies and elitism are what those with undue influence use to protect their place.
It is easily reflected in the early defacto motto . . . . E PLURIBUS UNUM "OUT OF MANY, ONE"
I remember as a kid growing up in a provincial town in the 1950's that religions divided people. For example, Catholics and Anglicans, both versions of Christianity, were passively hostile to each other. Fortunately, that doesn’t happen now.
This was fantastic
I believe that one can nurture and preserve one’s ethnic group’s cultural and artistic traditions while still cooperating in a pleasant manner with other ethnic groups and sharing democratic values. However, when a society becomes too large, management becomes more difficult for a wide variety of reasons. Also, unfortunately, some ethnic and religious groups do not share the above mentioned cooperative values. Combining the foregoing challenge with a population size beyond its sustainable carrying capacity in a time of declining natural resources, we have landed ourselves in an interesting predicament !
There have been plenty of people who understood from the beginning that multiculturalism was a harmless name for a bad idea.
The other major problem is that if you were to show this video to most modern leftist, they would only get to the point within the first minute where Brett says "the problem with multiculturalism...." they would immediately yell "xenophobe", "racist" or something akin to those and would completely dismiss the rest of the discussion and miss the point. We keep trying to reason with the unreasonable.
Many of us knew it wouldn’t work but hey who are we. I like my own culture. I could care less about those of others.
this is exactly what I've been trying to say - just put far more eloquently then I was able to say it
Jordan is now really tipping his hand. Well done!!🙏💯
0:50 Finally someone (besides me) said it.
What typically happens when an experiment goes bad ?
Cultures are an artificial mechanism to enable large collections of people to coexist without destructive conflict. Multi- culture-sim forces separate cultures to coexist but inevitably the separate cultures produce competing identities which is the essence of tribalism. As Bret says we are cosmopolitan which means the indigenous culture is Tolerant of different superficial cultural origins of people but this tolerance is the essence of the REQUIRED common culture. Cosmopolitanism is perhaps a Super-Culture that amalgamates and integrates identities into one not multi-culture which seeks to maintain separate cultures in what amounts to what I will call Ghetto-sim.
There are vast swathes of the UK that are ghettoised due to multiculturalism. The melting pot, peace n love, analogy is wrong. We’re more of a salad bowl. All the stuff is mixed together, but tomatoes are still tomatoes and cucumbers are cucumbers.
@@Krampus5164 With such things it gets worse until something snaps. This is the stuff of civil war but that may just prolong the pain and best side may not win. My hope is that social media can help wake us all up before it gets too bad. We need to be careful though that it does not simply fuel the conflict. First thing we need is to not reward identity politics.
'I've come to the conclusion' he says like normal people haven't been saying this for 20 years.
Brett and Jordan both are controlled opp. They never mention the true culprit, in fact they deny their existence, and in doing so protect them.
Elements of culture in submission to a higher corporate telos. Many nationalities and cultures in my church, all bowing to Kingdom culture.
As he peoples of disparate nations become more and more economically interdependent, cultural identity, which has always been an impediment to unity, becomes obviously and visibly moreso. where peoples have prospered, they not allowed cultural differences to interfere: example, the vibrant economic exchange between Israel and Iran which has waned and waxed.
Diversity is our strength* (*)for some various definitions of our
God Bless JBP BW and BW & his brother. Lord, what a blessed family (the Weinstien’s) and how fortunate we are to have them BOTH and JBP in the world at this special time. Exceptional video. Thank you fellas -JBB
Achingly wise
Wow as smart as you both are, you're just NOW coming to the realization that diversity is not a strength?
They have been talking about it for years.
No, you're just figuring out that they're talking.
@@Krampus5164 Brilliant thought! It also clarifies the true intention of multiculturism: it's not people's choice, but theirs who force it upon us!
He never said diversity wasn't a strength. In fact, he mentioned the unifying cosmopolitan nature of America being one of its developmental strong points. He's against playing up/overemphasizing differences between people. It's arguably better that a nation of many ethnicities shares much of the same culture and values, even if still being proud of and engaging with their heritage. As usual though, the ethnostate weirdos are going to misconstrue things for their own agenda.
@@blackbeltjones2903 'Ethnostate weirdos' isn't it a bit disrespectful? Diversity is NOT a strength, call it whatever you please.
I went to a multi cultural school in ireland, unusual at the time and had a good experience. Whats happening in Ireland now is state coerced and forced multi cultural which is alien to ireland. The problem is the coercion and lack of consultation...no one asked or voted for the lockstep global agenda
Brett is a boss!
There's mixing but people from other places like their communities. If I was in the Middle East I would seek out Canadians. But I enjoy talking to other cultures.
I call it pan cultural universalism, which even if was first emergent in western culture and civilization, does not mean a new refined version of cultural imperialism and supremacism, but means that the best that humans are capable of actually converges to a unity even if your initial cultural starting points are radically different and divergent. It is based on the widely recognized anthropological fact of cultural universals, even if cultural diversity is all the rage and fashion of the moment, the surface forms of expression obscure what are often more profound underlying cultural unities.
While I agree with the general sentiment Bret gets the role of religions in cultures exactly backwards. No culture, including even those that have rejected their foundational religions, is ever free of them. They stand and fall with them, just with a small delay. Cultures are massive systems, ofc they have some inertia. There’s no such thing as a culture with values truly free and independent of their religious roots. Once you get the diagnosis wrong it’s all downhill from there…
The characteristics of weapons are the main predictor of democracy. Democracy tends to emerge only when the best weapons available are easy for individuals to buy and use. This explains why democracy occurs so rarely in human history. --Carroll Quigley, Princeton, American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations.
I wish JBP would not keep interrupting
It’s a dialogue not a monologue
He is threatened because he is a libertarian and rejects nationalism; the antidote to multiculturalism. I think he will come around in a couple of years.
JBP rejects nationalism because he is controlled opp designed to quell the nationalist response to what’s going on all over the world. Same with Brett. They’re protecting their true masters.
Modern Western Cosmopolitan’s Peter and Paul having a high level dialogue. You welcome AI. Good Friday ✝️
Bret and Jordan apparently use the same interior decorator.
Patriotism is back! Kenny Powers style!
Tower of Babel
Bingo
Divide and conquer.
So people from different backgrounds should come together to try to make as much money as they can? I don’t think that’s the ultimate value system that’s going to work, Seems to be more of the problem than it is the solution
Brilliant observations by Brett. What makes the West exceptional in terms of freedom, wealth, value-based open collaboration and interdependence is what we are now rejecting. NO.... not all cultures are equally successful... hence not all cultural norms are worth adopting or even tolerating in our society.
I wasn’t deceived by anything
An interesting deconstruction of that label … sounds like “equity” by another name and reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt’s timeless words on “Hyphenated Americans”. Each should be proud of their origins but if you didn’t come here to be American and share in those basic values, don’t let the door hit you. Thanks for this
"Each should be proud of their origins" says who? This taking pride for things you didn't do is absurd.
Pride is energy and energy is required to survive. Maybe there is some other form of energy better that you know I'm sure it's a slave energy
@@tuckerbugeaterenergy is one’s attitude and mentality? Toxic or otherwise? Plus there are a few different ways you could define pride, so that adds to confusion. For instance, it could be you mean a sense of superiority over a group of people, or you could mean that you feel satisfied with your achievements and the momentum of having accomplished things fills you with energy. Could you describe what kind of pride you mean, or am I entirely misunderstanding you?
"Glaring defects in our founding documents". I, for one, are very interested in hearing what those glaring defects are to be honest.
I think there is a balance to strike to appreciate other cultures. Maintaining the western culture, and let people be sovereign in their heritage.Inthink for that there needs to be an optimism about the common society, and participation in it. I don't think that type oh multiculturalism is bad.
At the same time as*** letting people of different cultures be sovereign in their heritage, I should say.
Just recognize your heritage is just that: heritage. It's not what you are today.
Great analysis of the Western/American culture by Bret Weinstein.
Wealth generation is one reason the west calls on us to collaborate peacably. But the more primary reason is the Judeo-Christian commitment to recognizing the image of God (i.e. rights) in all people.
Never bought it
Cool drop the brirish and european culture you brought here and we take up native culture and languages
No uniting meta narrative, no nation. No nation, no country.
Multiculturalism is literally just what Earth used to be. We had multiple cultures. They each had a country. We all traded and communicated. "The West" is a business, nothing more. And these two have benefitted greatly from it...
Jordan and Bret, both great minds.
divide et impera, division had to be imported to Scandinavia
Bret doesn’t seem to understand that it was primarily his people (the ‘special ones’ whom we are not allowed to name or challenge) who have been the foremost orchestrators and funders of mass third world immigration into the world. Don’t think so? You might want to read Professor Kevin MacDonald’s book, ‘The Culture of Critique.’ These divisive people have a long history of economic and cultural subversion of both Europe and America.
If it’s not obvious to everyone he’s a gatekeeper here……get real And JP works for daily wire Another tiny hat institution
So what? At the end of the day the enemy is still the left. The reason "the special ones" lean left in America is because they have a history of being discriminated against, and Modern Liberalism is, in the words of Evan Sayet (a Jew himself) is an ideology of "mindless indiscriminateness" because "when you're part of a group that's been discriminated against, there's something very attractive about the idea nothing will be judged." Watch his video "Regurgitating the Apple: How Modern Liberals Think".
Some cultures are better than others. Period.