What does it take to wake up a generation? Well, the new movie Tick, Tick...Boom! and the history behind it might just help us find the answer.
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So what are your thoughts? Is Tick, Tick…Boom! empowering or overrated? Sound off in the comments!
Love this movie
Watched this movie with a few friends and I was the only one that liked it....
@@chrislee3601 get new friends lol
It was all Andrew Garfield. Otherwise it would have bn another cringey movie musical.
love the movie. Hate the split of come to your senses - and I hate that you're so chill about it. WILL NO ONE JOIN ME IN ANGER ?!
Frankly, when I saw the Sunday sequence, the first thought it came to mind was LMM flexing who his friends were and how much he can fit in his film. But, a friend pointed out that the entire Tick Tick Boom is a remembrance and homage to Larson which included a lot of his friends and peers in the industry. In the same vein of the Boho Days performance in which some of Larsons' friends were there, Sunday highlights Larson's peers in the Broadway industry (who are quite A-listers in this case) giving Larson the recognition and acknowledgement he deserves and in this case will never be part officially of a Jonathan Larson production.
I think what really hits hard the idea of remembrance and homage to me is that one of the first people you see in the diner is someone who was a close friend of Jonathan Larson's (on top of being a prolific performer), and that the homeless people right outside the diner were three of the original cast of RENT. It reinforces this idea that as wild and as much of a flex all the cameos seem to be, ultimately this is meant to be an homage to Larson and the influence he had in this community and medium of storytelling.
It's an homage to the brilliant Stephen Sondheim who Larson idolized and who ended up being a mentor of his.
@@GothicTopicPodcast the song is a homage to Sondheim, but the way it was presented in the movie with the Broadway icons also pay homage to Larson:)
I also think Tick Tick serves as a parallel to Sunday the musical
That’s nice, Karen. Frankly, I saw “Sunday” and the first thought that came to mind was: 1) these are the folks who wanted to pay their respects to Jonathan and let him know they love him and miss him The next thought that came to mind was: 2) given that “Sunday” was probably filmed sometime last year, as things were shut down for months and slowly re-opened, the folks who showed up in the final product were probably the easiest folks to get ahold of.
Andrew Garfield was phenomenal. I can't imagine someone doing this role better than he did.
100% agree
When Netflix posted a clip of 30/90 a few days before the release I was like “Ohhh.. so this movie is going to be incredible.” I had been worried. It was the exact opposite of my fears!
Andrew Garfield was johnathon Larson. Love the blend of musical and movie
Nope, nobody. It was 100% the best performance to date of an already incredible actor. I was mesmerized.
You wanna hear somthing crazy???
I think another thing that makes a good movie musical is realizing that the structure of a good musical and the structure of a good movie are very different. What In The Heights and Tick Tick Boom did so well were that they deeply changed the story, shifting around scenes and songs to suit the format. Also love how Andre De Shields has like 4 lines and still steals the show. "It's not a math test".
Exactly, the Dear Evan Hansen movie got this all wrong.
This is another really good point.
No cameos made me more happy than seeing the OG RENT cast together again. Because those werent just people inspired by Jonathan Larson. Those were people who knew them, who worked with him, for him, who helped him realize his dream, and who lost him. It was the most beautiful part of this tribute to me.
The timing of Tick, Tick... Boom! with Stephen Sondheim's death makes it even more impactful - the story of one theater genius encouraging/nurturing the next generation (first Jonathan Larson, then Lin-Manuel Miranda). And LMM is doing the same now
its funny steven sodheim encuraged jonothan larson who encouraged lin manuel miranda and now he inspires us too change musicals even more
Oscar Hammerstein taught young Sondhein, so it goes longer back through time.
when i watched tick tick boom I *sobbed* I'm 25 and unemployed and have no idea what i'm doing with my life. I was in marketing for a year and HATED IT, then a pandemic hit and everything became terrifying. I studied Media Studies at University, I have a hobby of arts and crafts and graphic design, I try (and fail mostly) to write songs, I write 100,000 word fanfictions just for fun (and because I'm scared of writing something with new original characters, but need an outlet for creative writing). I love theatre and film and TV and dream of working behind the scenes in some way, but with anxiety and depression and crippling self doubt that's a difficult dream to have. Tick tick boom... it got me. I saw myself in so many of the characters, in the way the film felt. it just got me, and after watching it, I looked into a mirror and saw my smiling face and sobbed, because i saw myself, for the first time in a long time i glimpsed a part of my soul. it was gone by the next day, but in that moment i felt free, i felt like my anxiety had gone, that my depression had vanished, and i sobbed. it meant a lot to me. i wish all movie musicals could have been like this, and my *god* do i wish DEH had been (it had so much potential, and as someone that related somewhat to Evan i just... nope...) but yeah, tick tick boom was absolutely amazing, and I've been trying to get my mother to watch it with me for two weeks now
Hang in there, brother. This world needs you.
Hey there Katy! I hope the world gets to see your work in the near future, take your time with it. We will be there to see it when it happens.
Katy I feel the same way. I want to write too and I'm in my late twenties. I don't have connections like Jon did and I don't think I can write as well as he did. I haven't even felt my creative spark recently. But whenever I doubt myself I remember Sylvia Weinstock. She was the queen of cakes. She didn't start her baking business until she was 50 after she survived cancer. She recently passed away. Some people are like Larson they start when they're young and others are like Weinstock their chance to shine will come when they're older.
I loved the part of the movie that said "just keep throwing stuff at the wall, until something sticks" tell You what Your comment and raw emotion of what You wrote made Me cry.
@@silvercheetah92 I couldn't put how I feel better than Katy M
I sent the netflix clip of “Sunday” (which didn’t show the whole song and all the cameos) to my mom and the first person she recognized was, in her words, “that guy from Hadestown (aka Andre De Shields).” The song and all it’s cameos is definitely made for theater lovers but I really don’t think it hurts the overall movie. Like if you don’t know who people are, you’d probably just assume Jonathan imagined the entire diner turned into some sort of stage show and just completely miss the cameos until your theater nerd friends fully geeked out about it.
It's not just the sunday sequence that has cameos, the writers workshop is full of composers
I honestly think the scene would be better if you weren't a theatre fan. It would be a lot more ridiculous haha
@@WaitintheWings it was! im not a theater nerd so i just saw this scene as just johns free mind thoughts! his opinion on a sunday bruch xd
As a non-theater fan, this was exactly the impression I got! A cute little imagined spot. The camera didn't linger in an obvious way on any person so I didn't even realize they were supposed to be cameos of famous (theater) people.
From a story standpoint I feel it also represents the “dream” of many people wanting to work with those faces in the industry. It’s an artist’s dream and respect towards the craft and those who came before him and after him. Like Jon in Tick Tick wanted to create his own “Sunday in The Park” just like Sondheim who he looked up to which showcases how influences pour into each generation after the next.
This movie really changed my perspective on life. What must we give up for our passions to thrive? Can we give up our passion for others? How can we leave a mark if our future is so uncertain?
Yes living for others not for myself and egotripping
Agreed -- so many reviewers say that this movie is a love letter to Broadway or musical theater or Jonathan Larson himself... but I think it's a love letter to... ambition! And anxiety! And growing older! And "starting on the next one" after the last one didn't quite work out...
A note about the poignancy of the cameos in "Sunday", and how they are so much more than just cheeky Easter eggs: The majority of the cameos were from people directly involved in Larson's real life, performers in his works, or inspirations for the source material. They were ALL relevant to Jon's story. It wasn't just musical theatre shout outs. It was Jonathan Larson shout outs.
I definitely watched this movie cause of Andrew Garfield, never really a theater kid but I loved the movie. And the Sunday sequence didn’t take me out at all not knowing those were famous people. To me it was just showing how Jon coped with the stress of his job; that, and I’ve worked in a diners for years so I gotta kick out of the sequence telling a story about a crazy Sunday.. been through many of those😂
Haha same man
Honestly I just can't stop jamming to 30/90
I was gonna title this video “30/90 has been stuck in my head for a week” 😂
@@WaitintheWings THERE SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIT YOU JUST WANT YO LAY DOWN AND CRY!!!!!
Hot take; 30/90 is better than any song in RENT.
Same. I turn 30 in September so it is frighteningly relatable.
self-care is listening to 30/90 on literal repeat.
I am not a huge theater musical fan, but I appreciate it for what it is and the talent found there. I know a little, so some I recognised the cameos in "Sunday" (those I knew) for what I think it was.. The rest of the film either takes place in "the real world" (his apartment, the park, etc..) or in the theatre (workshop or stage). Sunday actually takes place in Jonathan's head. So, who would he cast in those roles to sing in dance with him? His heroes - the theater greats. So in that respect, the cameos weren'r a distraction. They were a MUST.
Sunday had the opposite effect on me. I'm not a musical theatre guy, but I'm a big movie guy. During that scene, I knew these patrons at the diner must be cameos, so I was intrigued and researched the scene. Because of that, I discovered the original Sondheim piece, and I'm so happy that I did, because Sondheim died the very next day. It was a beautiful rabbit hole that I ventured down due to the diner scene, so it was the furthest thing from alienating for me.
just gonna say that the "Sunday" scene would be no more distracting for a non theater person than "another day of sun" in La La Land. it would only be 'distracting' for people who KNOW the references thats actually happening. i use Another Day Of Sun as an example because i knew quite a big chunk of the dancers by face in that scene where as for others its just a group number. not exactly the same, but im still pointing at my screen with an excited yelp seeing performers i admire.
Agreed. I'm not a theater person and I didn't even know these were cameos until I saw the video
"Sunday", all of the references/cameos, and the fact that it is a direct homage to Stephen Sondheim is all the more special and important now that he has passed on. What is so beautiful about it, is that it is a true legacy number and we see generations of great theatre artists who have been influenced by his work, including Larson (who is no longer with us) basking in both men's creativity. What Lin was able to do was add his own special touch/greatness/eye. Sondheim influenced Larson, Larson influenced Miranda, and they all get to exist with so many great performers together. I'd also like to add that Alexandra Shipps performance as Janet is worth mentioning. She did a great job
Andrew Garfield was perfect. I really hope he gets more recognition for this role. And Lin Manuel Miranda proves that he is not only a musical genius but an amazing director. I knew nothing about this movie and know nothing about Broadway musicals. It was such a relatable story for everyone disillusioned by the thought of turning 30. It was both hopeful and tragic in the most beautiful way.
about the sunday sequence, a rant: i'm someone who hasn't seen much musicals but has adored each one that has indeed seen deeply. that's to say, although i may know les mis by heart, i haven't seen rent or sunday, or heathers, or... you get the gist. i'm not savy on musical culture, i don't know the major stars or producers. so, i pretty much didn't recognize a single easter egg in tick tick boom. still, when the sunday sequence began, i just _knew_ there were so many references right in front of my eyes, i could just tell these people were important and what i was watching was a big deal. it made me feel like a little kid that is so amazed by what's in front of their eyes but can't comprehend it. yes, i must admit i felt a little bit excluded, but you know what that caused? after finishing the movie i watched every video i could find that dissected, analyzed and explained all the easter eggs so that i could get the whole picture. it felt like discovering a whole new world and made me want to watch all the shows that i've missed. although i'm no theater kid, i could feel through every scene the love that LMM put in this film. it felt so intimate, like a love letter to the world of musical theater and to artists of all kinds. this movie had a beating heart from beginning to end, i hadn't felt so touched by a piece of media in a long time. it truly sparked something in me and made me feel so alive; i laughed, sang, smiled and cried through every minute. tick tick boom feels like the most beautiful tribute someone could make for a figure like Jonathan Larson, it has a heart and a soul, it's filled with passion and the acting just took it to the next level. i haven't seen anything like it. it has truly become one of my favorite movies of all time and i'll rewatch it again and again for the rest of my life.
Thank you for writing this! I live in a small town on the West Coast of Canada, and I am not into social media much. Everything you wrote resonated with me and I have been bursting every since I watched it (last week, while in bed sick with Covid). It brought me alive, when I was feeling so crappy - fever, chills, aches, sore ears, throat, etc. I, too, watched every show and interview that delved into all the details, Easter eggs, cameos etc., and fell deeper into the story with each one. It was all encompassing - of course, I was sick in bed with a lot of time on my hands which enabled a deep dive into the movie - and it has left me with this incredible need to connect with other people who are as BLOWN AWAY by this movie, as me. I keep trying to frantically explain the brilliance of this movie, to my Covid isolating family, who have no idea what I am talking about and TOTALLY DON’T GET IT!!! Reading your post, was balm for my rapidly beating heart and mind with partially formed thoughts zinging around. I can’t turn it off and can’t stop thinking about the movie, how well done it is - thank you LMM, how well performed - thank you to all the cast, (and they are all truly brilliant, not just Andrew Garfield), the crew, costume designers, set designers, lighting crew, location scouts, producers, musicians - all truly magnificient) and everyone else I have forgotten to mention. This love letter to Jonathan, his family, Sondheim, musical theatre participants, all struggling artists and every single human being that struggles with, ‘what am I doing with my life?’ is absolutely brilliant in the big picture, the storyline, the execution, the production, even the marketing, and down to the very last detail. Nothing has ever touch me more and even after writing all this, I am still bursting. As I write this, I have a feeling welling up inside me: this is going to be a classic, this is going to change how people make movies, encourage people to be more honest, open, vulnerable (I can hear Andrew coming through). Can you say, “Cult following?” When I was growing up, it was ‘Rocky Horror Picture Show’ which still had a cult following today. This movie went straight into my heart and your post made me feel like I am not the only one. Thank you! Barb
Same!!!!!
15:22 I saw Andrew Garfield in Angels in America on Broadway - what an incredibly demanding and physically intensive performance it was. It was incredible to watch him both in Angels and in this film. And his singing was fantastic too boot. He's so talented and this movie is just the top tier of musical to movie adaptations
I’m jealous of you for watching that masterpiece.. Garfield is so special
I think you nailed it when you said this film just "got it". It felt like something that was born from alot of love and a hell of alot of musical sensibility. Only criticism.. after watching this with my musical obsessed 8yo I had to explain to her why letting her watch Rent may not be entirely appropriate at her age. 😜
Really laughed at your comment about your 8 yr old musical obsessed daughter, and Rent. Good one - thanks!
The part of Steven Sondheim feels different now that Steven Sondheim has died. R.I.P one of broadways greatest composers.
This to me is the best musical adaptation I’ve ever seen put to screen.
I didn’t know anyone from “Sunday” cuz I’m not a big theatre fan and also I haven’t seen the video but from the comment I just want to add that the whole scene/song was really cool and I just thought Jonathan wanted to distract himself from the job especially after the bad news by imagining this to let out his frustrations
The film adaptation of Tick Tick Boom certainly was a rollercoaster of emotions. How much you gonna bet this film will get Oscar nominations (especially for Garfield's performance)
If it doesn't, then something is really wrong.
I’m sorry I seem to have forgotten did it get an Oscar nomination
After everything that’s happened in the past year this was the movie all us theatre kids needed. A reminder of why we create in the first place. We were hit with a series of huge global events that were supposed to divide us. But it brought us theatre kids closer together. And this movie really gets it!
When Tick.. Tick.. Boom! was announced last year I said to myself and everyone around me: “This is my favourite movie.” A year later, I’ve already watched it 3 times and had the soundtrack on repeat constantly. I was right. Love your videos as always and that quote from Jonathon before he died was incredible!
I'm not a theatre person in the slightest. I wanted to watch this movie because I heard Andrew got set up for the part because his massage therapist lied to Lin Manuel Miranda about him being able to sing and got curious. I absolutely loved the film. Did not catch a single cameo, mainly know Vanessa Hudgens from HSM, but adored this production and felt moved by the story. I'm a visual arts and animation person, not theatre, but it still touched me. Also been listening to the songs non-stop for over a week now.
I watched this with my artist sister (and I can barely call myself a writer). I can say that this is a movie that any person involved in the arts should watch.
I don’t really think there was anything distracting for an outsider about Sunday… they’re no more likely to be distracted by participants in the number they don’t recognize than they are by not knowing the song itself is an homage to Sondheim, and particularly a musical and song they probably don’t recognize by a composer they don’t either. And I think that particular number itself was worth the risk anyways. What we ended up with was a bunch of people paying tribute to Larson, their hero, in the number where Larson was paying tribute to his hero, Sondheim. It shows a sort of understanding by those involved in what Larson was doing with that song, because they are doing the same thing… and aside from being really meta, it’s also beautiful. As the movie visualizes Larson’s love letter to Sondheim, it brings in musical theater stars, particularly those from works influenced most by his legacy, who are doing the same thing to Jonathan Larson.
I have a guilty pleasure if you could call it that- I absolutely adore motivational movies and books. Stuff about hardworking guys hitting big? Yes please. So when I've read description of this movie, I knew I was going to love it. It was 11/10 musical. It's probably perfect. What hurt me the most... it's its ending. To my shame I didn't know who Larsen is before I watched the movie so I expected some cheesy ending like "it doesn't matter if you're in your 20s/30s, you still can hit it big!! Just don't give up on your dreams!" but... the man just died. Just like that. He died HOURS before his musical became a hit. I was shocked and heartbroken. He was so young!! He could have done so much more! And, on top of all things- so sudden?! It's like a movie plot, some sort of evil irony- he wanted to do so much and died so young... I am 28 atm and my entire life I've tried to hit it big with my art. Not musicals, but comic books/manga. I've tried different things, themes, styles but every time failed miserably to gather any audience. I've spent countless nights drawing just to get 20 subs, 30 subs... total. Nothing I could make living from. Nobody ever asked me to do a commission for them. And, well, I am not doing that for money, obviously. I love what I am doing, I live and breath it. But it would be nice to afford food by doing what you love. It would be nice if thousands of people could see what I am doing instead of five or six people who've stumbled upon it by accident. It's just... I have so many ideas, man. I have hundreds of stories in my head and I just can't stop thinking about all this stuff. They came in my sleep, sometimes I even have hard time concetrating on what other people say because I am lost in my thoughts. I am doing one thing then I am switching to other thing and on and on. Sometimes I think it's all pointless. When do you give up? When do you stop living this childish dream? I am almost 30 and I am still nobody. I don't have friends, gf, nothing, all I have are my stories. Like Larsen's friend, I could have have a nice apartment, finally leave this god-awful country, maybe marry someone, but I just can't betray myself like that. I've tried to do something else but I just can't force myself, can't stop thinking about my worlds and these characters... So this movie and this man who lived and died like a star hit me too hard. I am so tired, so afraid and so alone because I don't think I've ever encountered people who understand this kind of struggle. There won't be any links, no self promotion, nothing. I just wanted to vent a little bit. No one is going to read it anyway) Well, if you did for some weird reason, have a nice day.
The amount of videos you've been posting lately makes me so happy (although I really hope you've at least slept a few hours recently), and I love how you've been mixing up your "history of a show" documentaries with other content. You perfectly described where movie musicals go wrong, and how/why ttb didn't go down that path, while also keeping up with your usual "probably too dramatic and filled with theater jokes for anyone who isn't a complete nerd" style. You also get an honorable mention for including LMMs "word of your body" video. AND YOU FINALLY GOT A SPONSORSHIP!!! YAYYYY!!! Good job on another amazing video!
I’m trying to get sleep here and there lol definitely been a bit of a struggle 😂 I’m happy you’ve been liking the new stuff. I’m getting to big decision time of if I leave my part time job to go full into the channel. It’s looking like that's what I may have to do if I ever want to get a big doc out again.
Pieces of the songs have been running through my head constantly since I watched it. I'm trying to make decisions about grad school or creating outside academia. I'm a decade past 30 but wow does this musical speak to the soul of creators.
Just a shout out to Stephen Sondheim who has just passed away. The inspiration to keep Jonathan Larson going is now hanging with him composing. ❤
"Sunday" literally blew my mind! I think TTB is really genius and I enjoyed just how broadway essentialist it is while still adapting. LMM definitely took some notes from in the heights & hamilton, and I thought it was great. I was a bit frustrated at some of the unexplored plots, such as the unexplained friend (literally cannot find his name online) who is hospitalized from hiv. however, this could have been a stylistic choice to highlight the presence of hiv in larson's life at the time as a realization until michael's plot. I also wish they had made some of the rehearsal songs available in full studio recordings! That one number in the workshop along the lines of "everyone who's anyone or ever will be anyone will be there" was amazing, but finding the scene and replaying the same 10 seconds over and over again when I want to listen to the line is so annoying. Overall, great film and review.
yes i also wished they had included the workshop song in the soundtrack they released! i love it so much
I 100% agree with the Cameos, I didn't know anyone in that diner was a big-time star or not just an ordinary extra, and I still love that song and the movie in general. I am in love with Andrew Garfield's performance and singing. And no I don't usually like musicals
I love musicals, I love rent, and I adore Andrew Garfield, so this was 1000% my musical movie. This was the perfect movie musical. My mom totally freaked out when she saw Bernadette, but I don’t feel like the cameos ruined the number, I felt like it gave tribute. The song is definitely a wink wink so having the cameos made it better in its joke.
i literally sobbed for half an hour after watching it for the first time. it spoke to me on a level that nothing else had, and made me actually want to create more despite pushback from scheduling and family. it made me want nothing more than to write. that’s the beauty of it to me, tick tick boom offers comfort and understanding for kids like me who hadn’t seen anything like it before.
when you talk about the theatre references/cameos and those who aren't theatre nerds not getting it. I can state as a person who occasionally watched musical movies, that it did not scare me off because i just really enjoyed the plot and the story telling and the care put into it. And by not a theatre person, I mean that I didn't really like hamilton (please don't murder me, i honetsly wouldn't be surprised if it was partly because i didn't get along with the people who would just belt it out in middle school) and other non-disney musicals, so i feel qualified to say it made an impact on at least one person who isn't part of the intended audience
I am not a huge theater follower, but I love great stories and the ever-powerful "hero story" of someone's life. Tick Tick Boom was amazing and I wanted to learn more about Jonathan Larson after I watched, it was his story of perseverance. I love that celebration of his life in what it shares about keep going as you may leave something unique with your impression on life. Magical in so many ways.
I loved this musical movie. The music perfectly builds apon the scenes around the them. For 30/90 you're seeing the start of the movie talking about the existentialism of his life thus make that feeling of an existential crisis amplified. The Sunday scene I appreciated because, when you're working there are days when you want to tell people, Go Home! You can eat cheaper there. Then cages or wings starts on the perfect scene where Susan gives him his music book to write more setting off tick tick boom! It's just so well done!
What an amazing video! I watched this movie with my parents. We are from Venezuela, so like, the theatre world is not really something they are used to, my mother didn't get it, but my dad did, and he truly loved everything the movie stood for! I was happy to be able to explain a few easter eggs, because I got really invested in theatre thanks to your videos, I was really looking forward for this video, and as always, it's an amazing one!
I just watched this movie with my friend and I loved it so much. My mom said that "the beginning was slow but you might like the songs". I disagree completely. My friend and I are theatre people (majoring in physics) and we were losing it the whole first half. We kept saying how this is for theatre people and it's so good. When Sunday happened we literally were screaming and had to pause the movie to recover. I cannot express how loud I screamed when Bernadette Peters showed up. The second half was so impactful and I cried a few times. I see very few faults in this movie and I sincerely hope that it can take home a few Oscars.
A great tribute to the musical and film! I do contest your premise that Larson was responding to Disneyfication, however, considering that the Beauty and the Beast film wouldn't come out until a year after Larson's 1990 production of TTB, and the Broadway musical wouldn't change the face of 42nd Street and Broadway in general until 1994. It might make more sense that he was responding to the commercialization of Broadway from the mega musicals of the late 80s, like Phantom and Les Mis. Of course, Beauty and the Beast was my first Broadway musical as a young child, so I might be a little defensive of it
I think he was just using it as an example of the fact that not only was Broadway becoming Disneyfied in regards to spectacle, illusion and immersion which were very much tenants of Disney's presentation style.
It's interesting though that if he was rebelling against the big box musicals (I'd said Webberfication with the likes of Cats and Phantom rather than Disney) that he had elaborate and weird ideas for Supurbia. Didn't he want all the actors to have screens on the their heads. However, what's a good artist without a little bit of self loathing 😜
As a ✨young aspiring artist✨, I totally agree with it inspiring a new generation. Because it inspired a lot, and I AM the new generation. But it felt like a direct message to me of what it means to be an artist. That one day, our *big* *dream* will become a reality, even if there’s some obstacles
This film was absolutely amazing. Gave me a new perspective. Means so much more as I am so lucky to be taking on the role of Tom Collins in January. What a legend, puts a new light on an unspoken topic.
Tick Tick Boom was one of the best movies I watched this year, no joke.
Lin’s interview about Sunday “ I want to give Jonathan his dream chorus.” ❤️
18:22 could not disagree more with that comment, the cameos did the very thing you said a film adaption should do, it elevates the songs in a way that the stage couldn't. The cameos weren't just a 'hey, look at all these people we could get to appear in this film!' Each cameo was carefully placed and references, pays tribute to or foreshadows the theme of musical theatre legacy, of which through Sondheim (being the aspiration of legacy) and Larson by contrast (within the context of the show) recurs all throughout the film. It's speaking to the past, the present (in relation to the film's setting) and the future (our present). The Rent cast as the bums foreshadows not just the creation and theme of Rent but how Larson saw people, he saw stars where others refuse to make eye contact. Peter's part in that scene is profound, both because of the song being a tongue in cheek version of Sunday in the Park's Sunday, but also because of what 'dot' represents within that story and how that contrasts to Larson's 'Johnny can't decide' conflict, hence the focus on her also being a focus on her hat. Larson and the two George's share a lot in common, as the creative process is timeless. Both versions of the song, be it the original or Larson's are about an ordinary Sunday, of which we introspect know wasn't an ordinary Sunday. It again speaks to the theme of making art vs living through it. This is something the cameo's drive home. There are a lot of layers in the direction and placement, of which I feel the comment overlooked. You have to look deeper than just what's on the surface of 'famous people appear'. You only realize the legacy of art happened in retrospect, it's what separates Banksy from any other graffiti artist, or a timeless classic like Star Wars from any old 70s sci-fi b-movie. Art is retrospective and introspective, that is what the scene emphasizes because that's what the song emphasizes.
I watched this with my girlfriend who is not into the musicals scene, i found myself gasping and laughing at the cameos and she asked me to explain. I love this movie so much because it had those nerdy moments and also had us both crying so hard 2 TIMES
Lin did a FANTASTIC job with this, exploring what he could do with the medium of film that could really sell this movie. I’ve watched it numerous times and it’s just so wonderful. Petition for Lin to be in charge of directing any future movie musicals?
I only discovered your channel yesterday but already it has introduced me to so many great or at least interesting musicals (your video on Hadestown was so fascinating and got me into the musical). Thank you for what you do. This is good quality content. Subscribed.
I feel like this is the right moment to say this. Your channel is my absolute favorite on this entire platform. Your videos create a perfect balance between my love for documentaries and musical theatre. They made me realize how much I enjoy learning about the creative process behind both Broadway successes and failures. I found this channel during my first year in Swedish High School, winter 2019/2020. I will be graduating this spring. Your videos have made a tremendous impact on my life these last few years and motivated me to push through even the most difficult of times. As a science major, I often struggle with balancing school and hobbies, and your videos serve as both the perfect break and the perfect motivator ("If this guy can make an amazing video about Legs Diamond, then I can write a laboratory report on Iron Corrosion", etc...). Thanks to your videos, I now feel closer to the musical theatre community than ever before and, understand the importance of making time for your passions, especially when things get stressful. Wow, this comment ended up a lot longer than I was expecting. I sincerely thank you for everything, and can't wait to see what you create next!
Great craft 🙌🏻 you had amazing analytical points and presented great details that helped me understand and appreciate the movie more. Good luck to you and great video👍🏻
Well done, I worked on this in post and you nailed the "creative approach" the production had. Lin did a great job as well as the entire crew and post teams
I think the main themes are so relatable to anyone who has had to made that hard decision between passion and what pays the rent. Gave up on academia because I couldn't support myself anymore with the lack of pay in my research field and am looking at private corps. So the advertising scene hit home for me. "I can get PAID for this?!"
I love how you mentioned how Andrew portrayed Jon in such a way that he didn't come off as a narcissist. I saw a production of this show earlier this year and my biggest criticism was that the portrayal of Jon made it difficult to like him. Andrew makes Jon's dream to make the next Broadway hit as someone with aspirations and was doing everything he could to get there. Its so easy for some of that to come off as being entitled to stardom and whinging about failures.
First of all, I loved your video and have shared it to Facebook. You captured the essence of what 1- every theatre and creative art junkie feels every day of their lives and 2- the gentle nudging to people who aren’t Theatre goers, but would enjoy a great movie for the ages. This movie is timeless and will speak to anyone struggling in a world where art is minimized and cash is king. I felt entirely seen as I feel like each day I get into my posh job, I think of a life that could have been. A life of wanting to act out stories and sing them to my heart’s content, but how much of a struggle that would be and I might never make it big…or worse, I get so close and kill myself in exhaustion just like Larson did. I have loved Rent since 1996 and never looked back. Larson will always have a spot in my heart and although his beautiful rock musical touches the hearts and souls of so many to this day and beyond, I feel there is so much untold by such a brilliant mind. So pleased you loved the movie. I did too. I was thoroughly blown away.
Haha! We didn't actually walk around with television sets on our heads. But thank you for doing such a thorough and sensitive breakdown. The movie does get it-the story, the feeling, the time and place. Sure, they took poetic license with a few things, but LMM, the designer, the cast, everybody: they really captured it. I love it.
I went into this movie not really knowing who Jon Larson was, though i love RENT. The cameos were great though i didn't know who everyone was. It was an amazing movie
I feel like Sunday was a musical number that got elevated from a simple fanciful glance into Jon Larson’s mind in the midst of menial tasks to a celebration of musical theater’s ability to heighten reality, on par with the rest of the movie’s message about if the pursuit of art can be a viable career. Plus we got broadway legends harmonizing in a gorgeous chorus with a fantastic orchestral score backing them up, it was worth the potential distraction of the audience.
Thanks for this rich snd profound review. I knew the Cast Album for years, but honestly didn‘t think a lot about the Kontext of the Show. It was after the „ Rent“ Hype that I found it and here in germany one can adore Musical theatre but we don‘t suck it up in the mother milk. But after I heard the Cast Album. I was actually more intrigued by the music than after listening to the „Rent“ Cast Recording the first time. Anyway I didn‘t knew a lot about the context of the show and then I saw this film and it was my „ Red Shoes“ experience…. I guess I watched it st least seven times the last three days and I am still so overwhelmed with the honesty of acting from this brilliant cast, the raw and smoothfulness of the music, the depth in the story telling and the brilliance of the director, to present a highly narcissistic artist where the audience even in moments of annoyance has a embracing feeling for. This movie reminded a lot of the highly praised „ la, la, land“, but emotionally it touched me much more and I deeply wish it will get as much prizes as possible, because they are well deserved!
just finished watch the movie and then saw this in the sub box. Absolutely awesome video that really enhanced my appreciation for the movie. Thank you very much.
I am first and foremost a fan of LMM, love everything he does. I'm learning to appreciate musicals more and more. So for me the Sunday sequence was more an invitation to check the people who were in that scene and learn more about them. My wife didn't question anything, and just thought is was a cool song.... So I'd say it isn't distracting to the plot of the movie at all
Considering this entire musical is a meta-level commentary on/love letter to the american musical industry, including all these homages and cameos by people currently powering the creativity and talent of that industry felt incredibly appropriate and elevated the song and scene.
I was just going to sample this movie for a few minutes but it was so good I had to watch the whole thing. My only disappointment was the outdoor piano scene did not fulfill the big lead up. Since I love Rent, I loved hearing the brief intro to One song Glory and the career advice he received from his agent, Judith light.
wow love your video. the last part where you talk about art, and why we need it, why we love it, just makes me cry. well, i cry almost every time when the curtain falls on stage after a show, guess that's where my heart belongs.
I enjoyed the Sunday sequence in that it wasn't just a love letter to Larson, which the entire movie is of course, it's also a love letter to those of us who know theater, and know the connections between those performers and Larson as well. During your video when you mentioned that it had the possible side effect of alienating those who aren't as well versed my reaction was, "so what?" We've reached a point where commercialism has made it necessary for televised and movie versions of theater projects to have a "recognizable" name jammed in so non theater people can keep up. Most notability the insistence of shoehorning in pop stars into the "live" productions which almost always leads to a watering down of the actual performances we've come to expect. Rather than give live performers a chance to shine doing what they do best. It was nice to see absolute theater heavy hitters and legends have a number where they are featured.
Great Video! 100% Agree. As for the "Sunday" sequence, even though i really Love musicals, i'm much more a movie geek type than theater geek, and for me it was just like you said. For the most part it flew over my head and it was still enjoyable because you get the sense of how his creative mind operates even in moments of great stress. I just got the Rent and Hamilton cameos, so finding the other cameos was just a great surprise Bonus!
This was a great video. I loved this movie when i recently watched it but I know pretty know nothing about theatre. This video gave me new appreciation for a movie I already loved. While also doing a nice job analyzing it's amazing themes and messages. Thanks for making the video and keep up the great work :)
Tick, Tick, Boom was... an experience. I've been writing fantasy novels for most of my life, starting with small ideas since I was around six, and moving onto full novel ideas and pieces of work by around fifteen. I've got like twenty different ideas stored together, and there's one series I've been working on since I was seven that I'll never let go and am currently writing the second book of. Tick, Tick, Boom spoke to me. I resonated with the thought, the fear of time passing me and me having nothing to show for it. It actually gave me chills when Rosa had her conversation with Johnathon, and she says that artists need to just keep throwing things at the wall until something stick, because what they told me was that even my most loved ideas, even the ones I worked my entire life on, might not work out. The entire night after I watched this movie, I won't lie, I had tears down my cheeks as my anxiety had taken control. However, with some rest and more time to think about it, I managed to turn that worry and fear into a motivation to focus harder on my writing. I spent the next day working on my second book, wrote the first draft for my newest chapter which met a 5,080 word peak. This movie was definitely something, and I am very thankful to Lin Manuel Miranda for bringing it to life.
I didn’t know the Sunday sequence was a fan service moment for theater fans. I still enjoyed it! I was a little confused at first but that confusion was fleeting
hi! i love your content, i live in italy so there aren't many ways for me to get close to musical theatre, but your channel made me fall in love with it. Would you consider analyzing the deaf west production of spring awakening? its one of my favorites and there's really so much to say about the process behind it and the layers of its meaning. thank you!
This is such a great movie and it makes me appreciate Rent even more. You're such a great KZheadr and I'm so glad I found you. Being a writer myself who's getting older, this movie really stuck with me. It's so inspirational and Andrew Garfield kills it
One of my favorite films of 2021 for sure. tearjerker. So so good. The story, the cast ... everything about it.
i loved this movie. andrew was a revelation. i had no idea he could sing and dance like that. honestly, i was never a big fan of rent even though it came out when i was the age of the characters. it always seemed to be trying too hard. this was amazing. i loved everything about this. the music, the characters, this felt real in a way rent never did for me. i will be watching this multiple times. your video was great. as usual, it was well researched and well presented. you did a fantastic job. keep em coming.
if the idea was to inspire other artist - it definitely succeeded. I finished this movie full of energy to continue working on my art
It’s a love letter to Broadway that is much needed after a couple of very difficult years. Loved it.
As an artist's living out of a studio appt in a big city with Marfan's, tick tick boom introduced me to theater in such an astounding and personal way. If some new property bars someone from entering the entire genre it comes from, that genre wasn't for them, or they'll find it when they need it. Artistic expression turned up is absolutely not a red flag!
I'll be honest with you, I knew Johnson from Rent I never knew how he lived, or anything really other than he died the night before the opening, and that always crushed me. So when I knew there is a new movie that Lin-Manuel Miranda (one of my favorite people on this earth) directed about THE Jonathon Larson!!!!!! I was like" OMG about John?!?! Man I have to see it; Rent was one of the best musicals ever and it literally changed musical theater forever. I want to know how that man did it." And having Andrew as Jonathon was just the frosting on the cake, he played that role like he was made for it. R.I.P Jonathan Larson you were awesome and you changed Broadway forever, YOU made your footprint and you will always be remembered.
I was so happy seeing so many of Lin's friends like Robin Dejesus, Phillipa Soo, Tomas Kail, Renee Elise Goldsbery, Chris Jackson etc appear throughout the film.
I fricken love this movie the camera movements, the actors, the very true feelings, the songs everything is amazing I love how this movie paid homage to Jonathan Larson I feel like this movie kickstarted my obsession with musical theatre even though I personally never did it at all.
What I really love about this movie, in addition to its general brilliance, is that it doesn’t just speak to the artists still fighting the good fight in pursuit of their dreams. It also shows acceptance and love for those of us who had to, for whatever reason, let those dreams fall by the wayside. The simple fact is not everyone can survive as an artist, and a lot of the time it’s something as uncontrollable as where you were born that makes that decision for you. This film shows Michael making the sensible choice to “sell out” - that is, get a *proper* job - but REMAINING PART OF THE COMMUNITY. His love for the theatre and the people who are its lifeblood isn’t gone just because he had bills to pay. I think a lot of the time, people like him - like me, and countless others - are overlooked, even sometimes vilified, for doing what we have to do to survive, even when that means giving up our dreams. But let’s be honest here - people who love theatre with all their hearts, but also have steady jobs bringing in a reliable paycheck, are the ones keeping the theatre afloat. We’re the ones buying tickets and cast albums, supporting the arts in any way we can, to the extent of our abilities. This movie is a subtle but wonderful reminder that we’re just as much a part of that community, in our way, as the people whose names and faces everyone knows. 🥰
As someone who only dabbles into Musicals When I watched Tick Tick.. Boom. I was entranced throughout, Initially for Andrew, Then the world around this, Then the songs, and then Jonathan Larson himself. I'm definitely recommending it to everyone I know.
I don't know much about musical theatre and was never into musicals, I have a different creative medium. I watched Tick Tick .. Boom, didn't know what to expect, and the movie really drew me in. I think the movie is made with a lot of love and I could feel it, even though it is about the world of music theatre that I know nothing about. I watched it 3 or 4 times now, and with each watch, it connects with me more, the love, heart, the creeping self-doubt and perseverance, and the fact that one encouraging word from a mentor can keep you going for years. I am just really happy that this movie exists. Thank you for the video.
What a great review! You were able to articulate so many ideas I had. One thing missing - no mention of Garfield's incredible voice, which was the biggest revelation for me.
I can not stop jamming to "Therapy". I literally never watched the movie but the soundtrack popped up on my YT recommendations and I fell in love it with. Watched the movie and it was so good too.
I loved this film. I was blown away by how well the story was able to be told through film without undermining the musical elements. The love and respect given to the material and theatre as a whole is obvious.
I, like you said, watched the movie, not really knowing much about Broadway or Broadway actors, so I didn’t get the cameos or references, but that absolutely did not stop me from appreciating how utterly AMAZING the movie was. It’s powerful and emotional, and made me cry more than once. Reading about Jonathan Larson and everything that went into it and inspired the movie just amplified that emotion
My brother is only loosely into musical theatre and he actually watched Tick Tick Boom before I did. He introduced the movie to me and told me it was one of his favourite movies of the year. Sunday was one of his favourite sequences and he got some of the references but most went over his head
I've only been to a few theatre shows, but I understood within a minute of Sunday, oh these are theatre names, that's cool. It wasn't frustrating, boring or pushing me out of the movie. It was cute, and it was a lovely song ✨🌟🌙
i didnt expect to love this movie as much as i did. ive had the soundtrack on repeat for a month now. it's so so good.
About the cameos, glad that didn't distract me from the experience, since I had no prior knowledge who those actors were
As someone who is about to turn 30 and my birthday is the day after Jonathan’s. This movie resonates with me so much. I also feel like there is a countdown clock in my life and this put so many thoughts and feelings into words.
Hi from Brazil I Just saw today, with my Sister. We love it, but for me talk so deeply, in a point of a view. Just 30/90 is a full representation of what i'm in to. Thanks for the vídeo, was like talk to a friend about.
This movie reignited my love of musicals. And I've always been a passing fan, I didn't know all the cameos in Sunday (I'm in love with Bernadette Peters though so she brought me joy) but I enjoyed it all nonetheless. This movie was near perfect not just from a musical standpoint but simply as a movie. I'm so impressed by Lin and I've always loved Andrew Garfield and he was phenomenal. I love this movie so much. I love your analysis of it.
Hey, im doing a school presentation on this musical, thanks for this video.
This movie and this video were both very inspiring -you have a great way with words (when you say you're an artist, are you a writer?)
Hello, as someone not invested in the theater world at all, the Sunday scene was my favorite and I bawled my eyes out. To me, the first part was Jonathan's growing frustration, understaffed during rush hour, trying to focus on the orders, feeling suffocated. All those negative, chaotic feelings pile up with every second and then, boom, sudden calmness, derealization. He imagines the diner as a stage, all the screaming clients as cast members, as if it's all a part of a big play. Time for his solo, then big happy resolution. This moment of misery is just a part of his big musical life. He has to believe in his own success - otherwise, he feels like he might go crazy.
Wasn’t able to watch the movie yet, but your video is absolutely amazing 💗
Thank you so much for this. Loved the movie! Have watched multiple times.