85mm - Why I HIGHLY Recommend It! | More than Just Portraits!
2024 ж. 15 Мам.
1 568 431 Рет қаралды
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 Amazon geni.us/xiuLQel | BH geni.us/FSkz
My Japan Autumn Photography Kit: geni.us/WrwmgOT
Follow me on IG @jasonvmedia
FREE Filmmaking Course: www.jasonvong.com/freefilmcourse
Download my Japan Photos as Phone Wallpapers (FREE): geni.us/vv4iX
Music from Epidemic Sound (Free 30-Day Trial!)
share.epidemicsound.com/qcLCB
When I began my photography education I took a class that was taught by a prominent newspaper photographer. He stated that the 85mm lens was like permanently attached to his camera for his work. He used the 85 for 90 percent of his photos. He stated the 85 was more close to his natural eye. This man produced amazing photos as a news photographer. The 85 has been my #1 lens ever since.
i had to wipe my monitor after your "sponsored by Zeiss" line.
🤣🤣🤣
👌👌
ha ha ha ha
Jajajaja jajajaja jajajajaa me to ! Jajajajajajajajajajajajaaa
hahahahahahahaaaaa spot ON .!!
What professor Hines said was really just mind changing and gave me a whole new perspective of what I can do!
Right!?!! Genius!
Indeed One and only first time someone told truth about camera lens with sensibility
What did Hines say? Where can I find what he said?
@@williamweaver2390 watch the Video @3:29 😄
@@williamweaver2390 here is the complete video kzhead.info/sun/d92fYrt8h6aqnqc/bejne.html
I love my 70-200, but the sony 85mm 1.8 is such a compact little gem, I may need to pick one up at some point. It's all well and good doing street photography with a 70-200, but when people think you're aiming an RPG at their face it's hard to stay inconspicuous.
🤣
i spit my water man hahaha
I have started my career as a wedding photographer and i bought sony a7m3 with kit lens 28-70 f3.5-5.6 and i am planning to buy a new lens because i have some shoots so i am bit confused which lens to purchase price lens 35mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8 or should I buy tamron 70-180 f2.8 ?
I love taking landscape and street photos with my 85mm. I'm going to be traveling to Japan with just my 35 and 85 with me next month.
85mm is a great focal length for street, really. You get a closer without intruding... try it!
ill stick to 600 so they never see me..
@@thothheartmaat2833 😂
Are you SERIOUS??! Great for Streets? Hell no! Nothing is better than the 50mm Focal Length... 85mm is ONLY FOR PORTRAITS THAT'S IT.
@@lyspecu can use whatever lens to do street. if you are comfortable enough with ur gear, just go for it.
@@lyspec No it's not, I have a really sharp 105mm I've used for landscapes and architectural regularly for the flat image. You're just a talentless hack who can't think for yourself.
I'm a huge fan of using longer focal lengths. I find super wide in my case to be a little lack-luster. I really like getting in tight and focusing on my subject.
I love the professor's advise. Thank you for this video.
His message was so profound.
85mm is a great lens for full frame. Crop sensor folks, stick to 50mm.
Really? I was debating between sigma 56 and sony 85 for my crop sensor... why do u say stick with 50
@@stantheman3674 Just based on the crop factor. 50mm would be the equivalent of about 75mm to 80mm on most crop sensors, which gets you close to the focal length Jason is talking about. An 85mm lens on crop sensor would be 135mm or beyond. Granted, all that matters is the effect you're going for.
@@stantheman3674 85mm on crop sensor is 135mm. That's a telephoto. E.g for human subject, You gotta backaway couple meters away from your subject to get full body shot. Just try it yourself, it's not really a nice feeling
Yeah, on Canons, 50mm on full frame is 50X1.6=80mm on crop frame, close enough to an 85mm.
85mm on a D500 for snapping runners. Absolutely magic!
Before I bought my Sony FE 85 1.8, I did a lot of comparing to the Batis, and couldn’t find any major differences that drew me to spend the extra money on the Batis. I did however fall in love with the 85mm focal length!!! Like. WOW!! The results on the lens are just amazing! Especially with nighttime street photography!
A less expensive lens that gets you in the ballpark is the Samyang 75mm f/1.8. Incredibly lightweight and compact, and currently runs about $330. Sharp, good AF, really light and compact.
Absolutely agree with Professor Hines. This process of thoughts is actually life changing once you live by it.
My 2 favorite primes to walk around with are the 35mm and the 85mm (or 90mm Macro if it's spring). If the 35mm is too wide 85 is perfect, and if the 85mm is too tele - the 35mm is perfect. I used to use a 50mm but I realized that I was either too close or too far away. In the end - I looked at my metadata in Lightroom (based on my 24-240mm) and found that a lot of my shots were around 35 or 85 rather than 50. I think the key to falling in love with the 85mm and not feel super constrained is to also carry a wide (whatever your FL of choice is there).
Do you have a full frame camera and which specific lenses?
@@Milan-cf1xe Yes, I own 2 full frame cameras (and also 2 crop sensor ones). I have 4 zooms and 6 primes for the full frame system. Why do you need to know all my lenses? Not going to take the effort to list it all out. What are you trying to work out?
@@MeAMuse I am Interested because you said that your fav setup is 35 and 85. So i like it too an i am interested which 35 and 85 you have since for Sony E Mount there are so many lenses especially at this focal lengths
@@Milan-cf1xe In that range I have a Sony Zeiss 35mm F2.8, a Sony 35mm F1.8, the Sony 85mm F1.8 and the Sony 90mm Macro. Mostly I take the F1.8s but depends what I am up to.
@@MeAMuse Oh yeah especially the 35mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 where the lenses i was looking at. They seem to be very good lenses for their price
Oh man, I never ever thought about getting an 85mm but I am now. I was so tied to the idea that 85 is usually for portraits but after hearing that professor and watching this video it has expanded my knowledge in this. I'm going to have to reconsider getting the 24-70 sigma!
Thanks for clearing this up for me Jason. I've been looking into getting one.
With a pure prime being out of my budget, I like to use the 90mm 2.8 Macro lens for similar use. It's even a tad closer and 2.8 isn't 1.8 but it allows for getting close for details where the 85 would not focus. So it's a lovely compromise in spring when all the stuff bursts into bloom.
Always loved the 85 focal length, even on a cropcamera. I initially used an older a-mount 85 f/1.4 Zeiss on my A7III using an adapter, but that was not a good experience (slow, hunting AF). I now bought the glorious 85 Batis and oh boy, it's a joy! It's a great compagnon to a fast 35 prime although it's a bit too narrow sometimes.
I am new to photography/videography using aps-c but I fell in love directly with the Sigma 56mm f1.4 with the focus on the subject and almost all of my favorite photos are from it. Not gonna lie sometimes I wanted to have the 30mm on a confined space but it is worth it.
From your latest videos to this one, i think your channel deserves a lot more subscribers. I have learned a lot from your videos from shooting tips to lens choices in general.
I have a Nikkor 85mm 1.8G and I love it so much. The rendition, sharpness, clarity, perspective and light to moderate compression is so captivating
I bought the Batis 85 last month. And I really love it! I thought the lens which over 400g is too large and heavy before I got it,but now, I really love to hold it on my hand.
If you decide to ever go lighter, you can shave 30g with the Sony 85 1.8. In the opinion of some a better lens, and you save $600.
@@chosenideahandle Do you really think that the Sony 85mm has better image quality? I am right now deciding between Sigma 85mm, Sony 85mm and Zeiss 85mm
This boils down to two things: 1.) the 85mm forces you to do the work inside the camera (and with your feet), where it should be done. 2.) If you have a talking head in your video (not a VLOG), then 85mm gives you that distance to remain personal, yet your subject will not feel crowded. The 85mm Batis is spectacular, and I've owned quite a few 85s in my career. Good video.
Thanks for sharing your insight greg!!
Have you tried the 85GM Greg?
@@natashanicole7408 I have not tried the 85GM, Natasha. I use the Batis on an almost daily basis, though. I'm sure I'd like the f/1.4 of the GM. Perhaps one day.
@@JasonVong can you donate that one camera for me sony a7iii which i been trying to buy one for my job
The comments by Professor Hines and your own examples were really helpful. I fell into the trap of treating lenses in a particular way or for a particular subject. It inspired me to shake things up and I am glad I did. More importantly it made me realise I had become complacent and got me thinking much more and it is that last point which has been the most beneficial.
The 85mm Zeiss was my second lens I bought for the Sony system 2 years ago and still absolutely love it!
im shocked! you went straight for the BEST ;)
WISH ONE IS YOUR FIRST LENS ?
Love 85mm for video and photography, it surely takes practice to get accustomed to the distances but it's totally worth it
Fun fact, 85mm was my first lens and been shooting with 85 almost about 4 years now. It creates a specific type of photos that I love!
I recently purchased a 85 mm f/1.4. I am so glad I watched your video. Thank for your awesome tips I can’t wait to start shooting with it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
If you're a true friend of the channel watch 30 seconds of an ad to support the youtubers you enjoy
ad block for life. they make money from square space etc. they don't need my youtube ad revenue. If i want mind numbing commercials, I'll watch TV.
Yes, I do agree with you! But I watched the entireAds because I feel the same way as a KZheadr.
When I had the 85mm batis I used it a lot for street and it was fun. It was also good for events. It got me just close enough. I haven’t tried other 85s but there’s something cinematic about that compression and bokeh.
I just saw this somehow. Bruh, it’s dope as f that Zeiss sponsored you. That’s dope. It’s nothing but dope. Congratulations, Jason. Thanks for the videos.
really nice presentation format Jason, stunning images you took in japan with the 85mm
A few years back I did not like the 85 focal point at all , now I can’t live without it.
I am the same all I need for wedding is my 35mm and 85mm and I am covered. All my clients love the results too. I have not touched my 24-70 2.8 for months.
Richard Budai do you have 2 camera during the event or swap lens?
Dude, this was so helpful! I'm considering getting a 85mm lens so thanks for the tips on what to expect!
have you tried the 85 yet? well i want to get the 85mm but can i use it on the crop lens
Hi Jason, Love your videos to begin with, and you thankfully reminded me about the 85 mm. I have a Zeiss Batis 85 that I bought when I purchased my Sony Alpha 9. I shot some great shots with it, but soon deferred to the 24-70 Sony Lens. I am going to give more love the the 85. Thanks, Wilfred
Great video! I like the perspective shift on being versatile and pushing yourself with what you have.
Jason that FUJI with the brilliant red...SO STUNNING!
The Sony 85mm F1.8 is one of my favorite lenses📷😀. Great job on informing others on what you can do with the 85MM prime lens.
StormanCast i Love it also 👍🥰
That’s my fav 85mm for a Sony. Small, light, sharp and cheapish
Hell yes. Basically haven't taken it off since I got it
Is it good for aps-c sensors?
@@kelvinbernardino2687 I also use it with my Sony A6400 It becomes like a 135MM telephoto lens because of the crop factor.
When I first got into photography, I was obsessed with macro. My first prime was the Sony 90mm macro lens. I love that it pulls double duty as macro and short telephoto. I find it surprising how good it is as a versatile lens. Great for macro, portraits, and landscape. Not half bad at street photography and product photography as well.
35 1.4 GM and the Sony 90 mm are my target lenses for my dynamic trio team. Already got a 1.8 50mm.
Hey Jason, thank you for all the great information! I am just moving into photography and the information you provide has been very helpful on my camera and lens choices. To start I am buying a Sony A7iii and will have to start with a kit lens, but I am going to add an 85mm lens for what I like to shoot! Again, thank you I am enjoying your channel!
dude, 85 was like the first lens i got that just blew my mind. one of my favs
0:36: nevermind 85s, you don't see ANY tourist with a prime lens. They're all on kit lens.
Love the 85, especially for podcast/interview purposes
What a coincidence, I just bought mine and waiting my 85mm to arrive on mail Thanks for the video, love your videos and explanations
I heartily recommend 85mm as a candid lens for people and for intimate landscape work. I bought my first one, a Nikon, several decades ago. Now I use the Zeiss Batis on a Sony. That’s one sweet lens!
So many choices, so many good things you can do with. From around $350-400 for fully manual, Around $700 for a nice Sony 85mm F1.8 [non zeiss of course] all the way up to much more. And yes on the top of that mountain the quite expensive but probably worth it F1.4 version. Owning a Sony 85mm F1.8. It is smooth, fine... great auto focus, and image quality is delightful. Once a year I go off to a renfair, well kinda like a renfair, and use the Sony 85mm F1.8 at full frame of course and offer people pictures. Trust me, that lens is big enough and with the right gear around it you look pro! My other lenses? A 35mm prime for a nice walk around. And a 24mm Prime if I need just that bit more width and effect.
For beginners don't be discouraged. If you get an APS-C dslr/mirrorless camera, most of the time you get an 18-55 kit lets, and you can multiply that to 1.5 So you basically get 27-82mm which is close enough to 85mm FOV You can also set it to 35mm on the lens and multiply by 1.5 you get a pretty close to 50mm FOV. And if you want a 35mm FOV equivalent set it around 24mm on your lens.
wait, how do you multiply???
@@JiteshRout any focal length times 1.5
For canon aps-c it’s x1.6
@@chubscoi Could you please explain more what do you mean by this?
@@nadrenders4149 It's not always that obvious, but focal lengths in photography world are stated with regards to full frame sensors : 36mm x 24mm. For most APS-C sensors, the sensor size is 24mm x 16mm, which is respectively 1.5 times smaller than the full frame sensor. Yes, we talk about single dimension, not the area (you square it up for area, which is 2.25 times, but skip it). Because the APS-C sensor is 1.5 time smaller, the field of view of the photo is 1.5 time smaller than the full frame one. You can search google for photography field of view. Field of view is, however, inversely proportional to focal length, so for APS-C sensor, the full frame equivalent focal length is 1.5 times bigger than the same focal length if attached to a full frame camera. If you read more on the internet, it is called crop factor.
I borrowed the Sony 12-24 mm wide-angle zoom for a landscape session, accompanied by my 85mm. 90% of my favourite shots were taken with the 85. I love telephoto landscape photography
this video has accelerated my plan to get an 85f1.8 for my a7III. Thanks Jason!
For about 15 years now, my go to's has been the 35/1,4 and 85/1,8. Love that combo. Even when I've had a 17-35/2,8, 50/1,4 and 70-200/2,8 laying around. The 35/85 combo is so versatile and nice to shoot.
Yeess i want tye 35mm instead of an all terrain one like 24 105mm i hope in one month i cant get my 35mm f1.8 at least cause if there is a 1.4 i bet is like 200dlls more.. im short on my budget but one day ill buy a good sigma 1.4 🙈 now the 85mm is my treasure.
I would love if you start including your camera settings in the lens examples!
I've got a 85 1.4 GM sony and i love this lens, it's sharp and good in low light, and the bokey is great too !
Gratz on the zeiss sponsor!!! You deserve it man! Your content is king
90mm 2.8 ‘macro’ is equally good (focal length and bokeh), sharper and more versatile (macro 1:1)... and I love it
Glad your videos take cropped sensor cameras into account, which is what most viewers on these channels will own.
Jason -- another great piece done with a touch of humor. While I own all five of the Batis lenses, when I looked over at my a7RIV sitting on the family room table (ready to capture the action -- or inaction -- of one of our two dogs or three cats), I realized that the Batis 85 was attached. Without thinking about it, it seems that my 85 is the "default" lens in my kit!
Just found your channel I don't know how you don't have way more subs than you do. Every video I've watched of yours has been fantastic man. Keep up the great work.
Seems like a great lens for indoor sports like basketball and volleyball for a light set up
I’ve tried a lot of glass and found what I love... my standard kit is a a7r3 and the gmaster 24 and 85. LOVE those two lenses.
Are you me ?!?
Jason Vong maybe we’re related 😉or just have really good taste in focal lengths 😁😎
88mm(55mm on canon crop sensor) was actually my second lens after kit, i picked it up specifically because i loved the focal length so much and i wanted a faster lens then the kit one 😊
Beginner photographer here. Was a bit skeptical to get a 50mm lens as my second lens for my crop sensor camera (Nikon D5600) to do street photography but after watching Professor Hines I am really inspired to get one.. I believe I still haven't got the guts to ask strangers for their picture. Being able to capture them from a distance should be very helpful.. Great content.. Love from India 🇮🇳
Bought a 85 mm f1.8 with a Nikon D7000 almost 10 years ago. Never really got the hang of using it. Years passed and I kinda lost my passion for photography and I considered selling my 85 mm many times. I recently got a second hand full frame camera and I'm gonna give the 85 mm another try. Thank you for the inspiration!
If you decide to sell, I’m your girl
Started photography about a month ago with EOS R and immediately jumped into the RF 85mm F1.2 DS as my 2nd lens after the RF 15-35 F2.8. Love it a lot! Glad I got it instead of the 50mm.
You got the best tutorials man! U rock! 🤙
Hines with that infinite wisdom!
Totally saving up for the RF 85mm 1.2 because I really want one for Street Photo and for Video. Also love the way Prof. Hines describes lenses! Great video as always Jason! Hope the trip is going great!
I fell in love with 85mm when I shot wedding videos with it! OMG what a lens!
Batis 85 was my first lens, then the Batis 25 and adding the 35 f2.8 for when I wanted to travel lighter than M43rds. This summer I bought the Sony 24 f1.4 and haven’t used the Batis 25 since.
I’ve got an A6600 and my favourite lens is my 50mm which is equivalent to something near of 80mm. A lot of people whom I’ve taken photos for and with prefer this and I’ve ended up shooting with this more. I really like it! I guess it depends on your style and how you prefer to take photos yourself but love the video!
85mm f/1.8 was the first prime length I ever got when I bought my first camera, second lens ever after the kit zoom. I had a serious obsession with DoF right from the get go.
I'm beginning to think I need to retract my statement. So many of yall got the 85mm as your second lens!
@@JasonVong I think what attracts a lot of people to professional cameras over point and shoots is that bokeh! And a fast 85 is the best way to get it
You gave an answer! Thank you buddy, now i will go for it.
Great advice! My fav lens on MFT is the Olympus 45mm(90mm FF) f/1.8. It is very tiny and very sharp.
I love the 85mm. It was actually my second lens after the 50mm. Especially on an aps-c body
85 is ALWAYS my second lens, on any camera system I have. First is a 35mm and then an 85mm. Really all I need--anything else is a bonus.
Ordered a 35mm, but B&H accidentally sent an 85. Took it as a sign I need to try something new and stop playing it safe with wider lenses. So happy I did. Love the 85 and I'm trying all sorts of photography I never thought I would be interested in. Turns out I love taking portraits and never once thought I would.
eyeing on that sigma 56mm for my A6400. good vid dude, greetings from the Philippines
Me too, did you buy it?
I got mine today and I love the F/1.4 for taking pictures of things and the blurry background. Btw it is quiet nice to carry since it is not too big. But I still have to take some portraits.
I do a lot of street and I’m really considering the 85mm 😁this video helped
I currently owned Sony 85mm 1.8 FE due to its weight and size. Incredible lens for portrait and it produces superb compression. Great review!!
I have to agree... 85mm is just great. I had my first Nikon 85/1.8 when I was still shooting film, and I loved it... then came digital and in APS-C that lens didn't get so much attention. Sold my Nikon gear a few years ago, had a lot of stuff (MFT) since then, but now I just bought a 2nd hand Sony A7 III and it came with the sony FE1.8/85, and boy did I fell for this instantly. It wasn't in my plans but I think I'll keep it even if I end up getting the Tamron 70-180/2.8 I had planned. I must confess that I also love those "nifty fities", and I got a Samyang AF 45/1.8 to play that part. I just love the more intimate results I get with it in portraits and I also find it quite nice as an all-around lens - a bit wider than the normal 50mm, a bit more narrow than the 35mm. Sweet. But the 85mm... it's really a gem.
Won an auction for the canon 85/1.8, too excited to wait!
Nice
J C A what site was the auction on?
392 Horseplay good ole ebay
4:00 _"Nowhere on that lens..."_ Finally! No more lens pigeon-holing!
I started with an helios 44-2 58mm (87mm equivalent on APSC). It is still one of my favorite focal lengths.
Totally agree on all points Difficult focal length to use but the Sony GM 85mm 1.4 look is magical.
I couldn't agree more! It's the perfect focal length to have a strong focus on the subject while still showing the surroundings. I use the sony 50 / 1,8 on APS-C and love the shots from this setup. I actually think it a very good setting for beginners - while it might feel uncomfortable at first, it kind of forces you to focus on the subject and does not leave to much room for irrelevant stuff on the picture. For macro it also works great!
On the same level, I had to buy many different lenses before I finally got a great deal on sony 85mmf18(felt the same, as I don't need it, because I shoot portraits pretty rarely) and "boy it was worth it". Loving the 85 looks and how it feels with full-frame sony. I have 70-200 as well, but I am using more and more this beautiful lense.
Thank you Jason. Very helpful insight. The Mt Fuji shot was a great example. Nicely explained.
My all time favorite as well! Such a great lens!
sigma 56mm 1.4 on apsc (eq 84mm) is my second lens and I love it!
I'm considering it..But really confused between sigma 30mm and 56mm
85mm is such a great focal length. So good for landscapes, and street photography despite the normal practise of wide angle lenses for both
I hate wide for street, and sometimes for landscapes too. That look is so hopelessly dated. Wide is cool for action stuff though. 85mm > all in most cases.
Funny you mention this, my first lens for my a7ii after the kit lens was the 85 1.8. Such an amazing lens and I use it for almost everything (mainly cuz I cant afford to buy more lenses yet, but I’m currently saving up for the 24 GM). I shoot portraits, Astro, events, video, everything I can with the 85. I’m really glad I was stuck in a box with the 85 because it has forced me to learn how to make that focal length work in almost any situation. Also I got very good at stitching together hahah
SEL85F18 is my third lens. Loving it so much!
The problem with recommending 50mm for a crop camera is that it is not really 85mm. I love portraits and at 85mm the face structures look so much better. And also the DOF is just not the same.
56mm is closer. Fuji has good 56mm lenses and a 50 f1 I like the 75mm equivalent more so I use the 50f1
my second lense ordered yesterday . sony FE 85mm 1.8 & godox V1
Awesome! have fun! take some good portraits with it!!
i love my 50, i use it for almost everything and i was shocked to see how well various photos came out and will def. be looking to pick up a 85
I bought a canon 85 1.4 this year and for portraits it is great.Thanks for sharing this video its given me some more ideas.
For me, photography is skies the limit. No focal length can stop you for being creative on your shot. A photo definitely depends on how we picture out the scene :)
I shoot M43, and I own only one prime lens (between two zooms): the Zuiko 45mm 1.2. So, I understand you!
Perfect!!!
Love my 85 1.8. My third after the kit lens. You were right. 40mm panckake avm 50 mm 1.8 first. Love the 85 though. Seems warmer / golden and nice focal distance for MANY things. Used for event, close up, family at play, candids etc. Just a.little "zoomed in". Rouhly my center of vision, so that givees you a good feel of the field of view. Of, and dirt cheap (well, i'd love a stabilised 1.2, but that is out of budget for now).
The Sony 85/1.8 was the first lens I bought (not including kit lens) for my 6500! I ADORE IT!!! I also use the 85 unconventionally for street and call it the sniper lens, especially bc of crop factor :). Best investment for under $600. 👌🏽
I have 50mm and apsc so it's my second lense
I have two 85mm lenses. Sony 85mm f1.8 and the Rokinon 85mm f1.4 and love them both.
I haven't tried the Rokinon yet. What do you think?
@@MattJackson_KZhead when I tried it out for a review, I loved the colors and bokeh of the rokinon!
@@JasonVong I might have to give it a look-see!