Lotus Emira vs Porsche 718 Cayman GTS vs Alpine A110S | Which would you buy? (4K)

2022 ж. 6 Мау.
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#LotusEmira #Porsche #Alpine
It’s been almost a decade-and-a-half, but Lotus is officially back with the all-new Emira sports car. To find out how it compares to the best of the current crop, we brought along a Porsche 718 Cayman GTS and an Alpine A110S for the ultimate sports car group test.
Lotus Emira web review: www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...
Porsche 718 Cayman web review: www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...
Alpine A110S web review: www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-rev...
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  • So, which car gets your vote? Answers below...

    @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus all day long

      @Skidfreaks_southeast@Skidfreaks_southeast Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus for sure

      @speedluvver@speedluvver Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus, without a second thought

      @RideTheTrack@RideTheTrack Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus

      @Gibbo205@Gibbo205 Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus. You buy a sports car based on emotion and the sense of occasion when getting in the car, not how much luggage space it has…

      @evanhaigh4571@evanhaigh4571 Жыл бұрын
  • The gts was lauded as a brilliant sports car from day one so for the Lotus to get close is an achievement in itself.

    @michaelherron4306@michaelherron4306 Жыл бұрын
    • The Emira is the gold standard for steering feel.

      @ytsux9259@ytsux9259 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ytsux9259 hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha that's hilarious

      @trance9158@trance9158 Жыл бұрын
    • Dans le célèbre magazine EVO DE DÉCEMBRE 2020 ils ont jugé le gets ennuyeux

      @fredericberthou@fredericberthou9 ай бұрын
  • The Alpine is the real Lotus here

    @LarsAgerbk@LarsAgerbk Жыл бұрын
  • (In France) we have some extra tax for emissions so it’s a no brainer, the A110 ends up 30K cheaper than the (4 cylinder) 718. Also, in your test, you came to the conclusion that you wanted something that is already offered by Alpine, namely the A110 GT with the soft damping of the Pure and the engine of the S. Obviously a 4.0 liter Porsche or the brand new Emira have a lot of appeal but the A110 (maybe not the S) is still a sensible choice and by far the best bang for buck 😊

    @cooperturbo4598@cooperturbo4598 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for your comment Cooper

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
    • Lotus and the GTS are €150k in the Netherlands. Alpine S is €92k.

      @asphalthedgehog6580@asphalthedgehog65805 ай бұрын
  • Given there’s so little to choose between the Emira and the GTS, I’d take the Emira on looks alone.

    @OldManOnTrak@OldManOnTrak Жыл бұрын
    • The gts ain’t a bad looking car at all but imma have to agree with you

      @TheMenace2004@TheMenace2004 Жыл бұрын
    • 981 Boxster GTS MT owner here. I chose the Porsche because having support for maintenance, spares and repairs is critical for long term ownership. 0 Lotus dealers here, and no independent shops that work on Lotus that I know about within 100 miles.

      @electric_boogaloo496@electric_boogaloo496 Жыл бұрын
    • @@electric_boogaloo496 Underrated comment. This is something Lotus needs to focus on if they are going to attract buyers new to the brand.

      @RaeMachiavelli@RaeMachiavelli Жыл бұрын
    • @@electric_boogaloo496 ....traditionally, Toyota engines and trans are bulletproof. You can't say that about Porsche.........

      @paulricketts1089@paulricketts1089 Жыл бұрын
    • @@paulricketts1089 I know that the Lotus Exige used a supercharged derivative of the 2GR Toyota engine that is also present on my Tacoma. But it had many bespoke parts, and a supercharger. It is different enough that a Toyota dealer or independent Toyota shop will refuse to touch it. The only car/truck that Toyota/Lexus sells with a manual transmission with the 2GR engine is the Tacoma. I doubt Lotus put a truck transmission in a sports car. Even then, a mid engine car requires transaxle instead of a traditional transmission that outputs to a drive shaft, and Toyota doesn't make one. The whole conversation about the Exige is moot, because they couldn't sell it in the US. I don't know what engine Emira is running, but it will be hard to buy and maintain in much of the US. Porsche engines and trans are some of the most reliable in the performance car market. You will see them handle the abuse of trackdays like a champ. They may be more sensitive to lack of maintenance, and maintenance and parts are more expensive. But if you take care of a Porsche, they last a real long time.

      @electric_boogaloo496@electric_boogaloo496 Жыл бұрын
  • As a previous owner of Exige, Cayman and Boxsters I would say the Porsche is probably the best overall package and more well rounded product, but the Lotus kills it on looks and excitement factor.

    @julianlay4181@julianlay4181 Жыл бұрын
    • L’alpine est meilleure que les 2 autres

      @fredericberthou@fredericberthou9 ай бұрын
  • They Alpine is a neat little car. Very unique.

    @pjoffrion@pjoffrion Жыл бұрын
  • Would still prefer the Alpine. Lightness and simplicity above power and complexity is the correct recipie.

    @andersbjrnsen7203@andersbjrnsen7203 Жыл бұрын
    • ...it's a renault......that's scary enough............

      @paulricketts1089@paulricketts1089 Жыл бұрын
    • I wish it was available in the US

      @georgesheffield1580@georgesheffield1580 Жыл бұрын
    • Being a Renault means it's not Ford ,Chrysler, or Chevy ( Detroit dinosaurs )

      @georgesheffield1580@georgesheffield1580 Жыл бұрын
    • @@georgesheffield1580 while I wish it was available in Norway. For some reason Renault refuses to bring it into the country, even though they sell it all over the rest of europe😞

      @andersbjrnsen7203@andersbjrnsen7203 Жыл бұрын
    • Isn’t that the Lotus / Chapman ethos?

      @nl3712@nl3712 Жыл бұрын
  • Love how in depth you guys are with car handling! Not enough KZhead reviewers do this and I think it could be a great niche for CAR magazine!

    @Kay_Hizzle@Kay_Hizzle Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • I would have to go with the Lotus the Porsche is amazing but you see them all over the road. The lotus is unique and driving a lotus is just so engaging and purist

    @Alejandro-mn1np@Alejandro-mn1np Жыл бұрын
  • Not looking for practicality, I'm looking for an beautiful exotic looking car with wonderful steering feel that stands out in a crowd. Lotus is my vote based on being "the most exciting of the three" to quote the host. .

    @LotusOwnersOfTexas@LotusOwnersOfTexas Жыл бұрын
    • @@ianstallings I totally agree. I'm in it for the feel and emotion rather than the perfection.

      @LotusOwnersOfTexas@LotusOwnersOfTexas Жыл бұрын
    • @@ianstallings go up in value like previous Lotuses or McLarens or most Porsches or even Ferraris? Caterhams are even rarer and exciting and they depreciate too.

      @oliveroshea5765@oliveroshea5765 Жыл бұрын
    • @@oliveroshea5765 well if you have a look at the alpine, it has risen in value (mainly because of inflation tho)

      @manuelight@manuelight Жыл бұрын
    • @@manuelight most used cars have risen in value recently

      @oliveroshea5765@oliveroshea5765 Жыл бұрын
  • What an awesome review guys.. really liked the format. Well done.

    @andrewpiper2880@andrewpiper2880 Жыл бұрын
  • Best review yet on the Emira. All 3 cars are incredible. The Cayman is perfection but the Lotus has that specialist car feel which I really love. Can’t really go wrong with any one of these.

    @kahmed7328@kahmed7328 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks so much K Ahmed! Let us know what you think to our upcoming videos :)

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • The sound of the Lotus is amazing. I hope they don’t mute that with regulations. It’s sad when car reviewers find it too loud. Changed days.

    @ELUSIVEJIM@ELUSIVEJIM Жыл бұрын
    • Non-issue. Anything muted can be easily unmuted in the aftermarket.

      @siafaalvin2209@siafaalvin2209 Жыл бұрын
    • Looks too much like a 488

      @emanuelefasanofasano3814@emanuelefasanofasano3814 Жыл бұрын
    • Especially with the AMG one.

      @roxind@roxind Жыл бұрын
    • @@emanuelefasanofasano3814 ......like that's a bad thing??................

      @paulricketts1089@paulricketts1089 Жыл бұрын
    • They will mute it, but you can always get an aftermarket exhaust.

      @CockatooDude@CockatooDude Жыл бұрын
  • This is of all of them one of the best reviews of the Emira. Thanks guys and the rest of the team behind the camera 👍👍👍

    @swiper1818@swiper1818 Жыл бұрын
    • That's very kind of you swiper1818 and always nice to hear! We're always striving to bring our A-game for our audience, so thank you!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • They should've compared the other 2 with the A110GT. That's hands down one of the best cars ever. The S is more a track car. I would choose the A110 everytime - the lightness, the handling, the looks..... it's a class apart. The GT is the sweetspot; the sublimeness of the Pure, with the power of the S.

    @RyuLongRHOG@RyuLongRHOG Жыл бұрын
  • It's a hard one but owning a Porsche myself (a 981 with the NA engine) I can say that it's REALLY hard to beat in terms of driving experience, engine "specialness", sound, chassis, gearbox (tall gears but super sharp and precise shiftings) and seating position...AND, it's also practical with two boots making it even more usable and enjoyable (the difference between taking a car for a spin and back home or taking a car for a weekend and enjoying it over different driving conditions). I Love (absolutely love) the old Exige S with the 1.6 Toyota engine and i've driven one for a while: an unforgettable experience. I hoped the Emira to be a new Elise, more comfortable but still with that pure experience...the problem is that while I love the look of it, this Emira is lacking in some other important areas. The engine is good but that rev limiter at 6.5k is way too low for a sport car like this and all the reviews are saying that the gearbox is not the best (possibly spoiling the connection with the car and its driving experience). Those who are saying "Emira all day" are basing it just on the look which I agree is better compared to the "honest" but almost 10yrs old Cayman (it will always look good anyway). They should try a Porsche and understand why is so capable and good compared to the Emira. I hope Lotus will have more funds in the future to adopt a better engine and a sharper gearbox.

    @fastdays_1@fastdays_1 Жыл бұрын
    • The 981 Boxster is brilliant and far more practical than the lotus. I have a 2014 981 Boxster S and I love it

      @rtsmith3921@rtsmith3921 Жыл бұрын
    • I own a Cayman as well and there is just something about the Way the Cayman drives . It’s hard being the measuring stick that all other sports cars are out to beat . It speaks volumes as to just how special a Porsche Cayman is .

      @philandviki@philandviki Жыл бұрын
    • I definitely agree with your point, the 2gr being limited to 6.5 is underwhelming, but it's aftermarket support is been on a sharp incline for a while, hence with just a pair of camshafts this engine revs to 7.5 or 8 extremely freely, and having that supercharger increases its power potential even more. I also agree that power isn't everything, but it also acts as a catalyst to add other components such as coilovers, adjustable control arms/camber plates and much more. Hence, i think for someone who tinkers with there car the emira would be a better choice, whereas the Cayman is almost perfect cat from the get go.

      @taarunjain6012@taarunjain6012 Жыл бұрын
    • @@taarunjain6012 I perfectly understand your point but people shouldn't buy a car and tune it to make it "different", you should tune it to make it "better". Doing what you said, so to work on the engine with aftermarket parts to increase the rev range and other things is not like changing a cat or a damper...it can be done, for sure, but if you consider the cost and everything else included, my question is "is it worth it"? you would end up spending quite a fair amount of money which will add up to the Emira's price which is already not cheap - hence you will end up spending a budget which will buy you superior cars on the market. If you buy a car and you change the exhaust, map, or dampers is perfectly fine and I would do it as well..but if I have to buy a car to change it "in a big way" then I'm doing something that the manufacturer should have done, not me.

      @fastdays_1@fastdays_1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@fastdays_1 You are accurate, sir, but I feel tuning an automobile has never been a financially advantageous decision; if we go too far, it becomes a money trap. I'm not advocating that everyone should rev it to 8k; in reality, very few people would go that far. However, a simple tune that lifts the redline to 7k would not be expensive and, in my opinion, would go a long way towards improving the driving experience. And we know it won't lose power based on past dyno charts. Small things such as lowering springs, tune, a nice set of spacers to improve stance and track width, and so on would go a long way toward putting the Emira on par with the Cayman.

      @taarunjain6012@taarunjain6012 Жыл бұрын
  • the coolest car review intro ever. awesome jerb!

    @exaflop@exaflop Жыл бұрын
    • Wow, thanks so much mihai p - I'm glad you enjoyed it :) - Grant Lester (Director & Editor) Let us know what you think to our upcoming videos too!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Love this young guy, he has a real feel and passion for the cars. Hope we see much more of him going forward. The Porsche has to win, more refined and practicle than the competition.

    @mk3kxc4u@mk3kxc4u Жыл бұрын
  • I think I would choose the lotus expecting lower ownership costs while still being more interesting than the Cayman at some aspects that were mentioned: exterior design, steering feel, suspension, more exotic brand

    @rotorblade9508@rotorblade9508 Жыл бұрын
    • What? Why would you expect lower ownership costs from Lotus? Do you know how difficult it is to get them serviced? I had a Lotus Elise and now have a 718 Cayman S and as much as I miss the Elise, it was a dinosaur with little daily livability compared to, well, *any* Porsche.

      @kabob21@kabob21 Жыл бұрын
  • Great honest review guys - really enjoyed this video, probably the best one i’ve watched for a quite a while.

    @roybeasley9645@roybeasley9645 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • the lotus just looks too beautiful especially in that color!

    @JohnNguyenVincent@JohnNguyenVincent Жыл бұрын
  • I have a 2013 911S and it has been trouble free for 8 years. That said, if we had a dealer network for Lotus in Colorado, I would consider it. It's a spectacular looking car.

    @morganvon5664@morganvon5664 Жыл бұрын
  • The intro of the Emira, and then Cayman. Amazing!

    @Venezuela305@Venezuela305 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow! First time here, and two very very "easy to listen to" reviewers. Thank you

    @andersemanuel@andersemanuel Жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed Anders and welcome! We'll be sure to let James and Ben know!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Enjoyed the review. Well done.

    @GuapLord5000@GuapLord500029 күн бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV29 күн бұрын
  • Great review guys.

    @Z-u-m-a@Z-u-m-a Жыл бұрын
  • I enjoyed watching the Video Comparison. The Lotus Emira Is the Model I would choose

    @jamiep61@jamiep61 Жыл бұрын
  • A110s for me thanks 300 kilos less is what makes it a better Lotus than the Lotus

    @octaveful@octaveful Жыл бұрын
    • except for no manual transmission

      @1183newman@1183newman Жыл бұрын
    • @@1183newman The manual in the Emira isn't great. The manual in the Cayman is arguably too long. Neither reviewer seemed to miss the manual in the Alpine. My impression was they actually preferred the DCT.

      @nigel.w@nigel.w Жыл бұрын
    • @@nigel.w You are spot on. I had the choice of all three and went A110S

      @SpencerPlanton@SpencerPlanton Жыл бұрын
    • The A110 is a little more true to the lotus spirit isn't it? If they offered it with a manual and it came to the US of truly have one. Even ss a lotus super fan.

      @beezball@beezball Жыл бұрын
    • @@SpencerPlanton Clearly without driving an Emira

      @exigeboy@exigeboy Жыл бұрын
  • Great episode. Very well done. Thank you. These are 3 amazing cars. Sadly, the Alpine is not even an option for us here in the States but with that said, it is the Lotus Emira in that manual with that bulletproof Toyota sourced supercharged V6 engine all day long. With this being the last gasoline powered Lotus, reliability is huge factor for me and reliability is baked into the very DNA of that engine. Also, there are just the looks. The GTS is an amazing car but it looks too common whereas the Lotus just looks the business. You just want to look at it all the time and I know if I woke up and saw that Lotus sitting in my garage could not help but smile. Hopefully I will be able to add that Lotus to the stable very soon. Keep up the good work!

    @StandingUpForBetter@StandingUpForBetter11 ай бұрын
  • I really enjoyed the first presenters thorough breakdown of the Emira, he talked about the ergonomics of being in the car, its controls, the feedback it provides and how these all work together. In terms of the verdict from the three cars, I wonder if the Touring suspension on the Emira would make it a bit more playful like they described the Cayman as being. And thanks for a great video with presenters that know how to discuss the driving experience of cars in a meaningful way.

    @Asheen_Singh@Asheen_Singh Жыл бұрын
    • Bear in mind the Emira was a left-hand drive pre-production hack as well. Harry Metcalfe has just bought one, so it will be interesting to follow his ownership experience.

      @louishiggins8881@louishiggins8881 Жыл бұрын
  • The mid-engine flat-six is just an excellent formula, from 986 to 982, they all have that controllable, balanced feel

    @tonymccartney2829@tonymccartney2829 Жыл бұрын
  • Lotus by a mile. You both agree it has great steering. Maybe it's just short on powertrain, but the looks are magnitudes better. I don't even notice the Porsches on the road. When my teenagers and I passed an Emira last week, they lost their minds. "What the heck was that?!"

    @steveaverett@steveaverett Жыл бұрын
  • Alpine A110 all the way !

    @domenechmichel@domenechmichel Жыл бұрын
    • Of course

      @zsoltfarkas1028@zsoltfarkas1028 Жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful, insightful, review you guys. Porsche is a superb drive and scores big on practicality, but Emira’s looks and exotic charm make it simply irresistible.

    @ramiller2187@ramiller2187 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • I have a 987 Cayman S, and am really leaning towards an Emira for my next car - the looks just blow the cayman away, and I am sure it will drive amazingly. Hoping a slightly higher HP version comes out though! Like the evora GTs.

    @sonicsabbath@sonicsabbath Жыл бұрын
    • If I get one I plan on having it retuned to hopefully getting closer to 500hp without having to add any mods. Think that would be ideal

      @mattjubie@mattjubie Жыл бұрын
    • @@mattjubie I had the same thoughts myself!

      @Wishi13@Wishi136 ай бұрын
  • Very good video review. Amongst the best I've seen. Wondering what the Emira with the A45 AMGs engine might play out.

    @BM-235@BM-235 Жыл бұрын
    • A very interesting question!..

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Love the Alpine but the exhaust pops on overrun would drive me mad.

    @mosca3289@mosca3289 Жыл бұрын
    • they did both in real life when I test drove it and in this video, sadly

      @henr1k5@henr1k5 Жыл бұрын
    • This is the reason, why I didn't order the valved "sports" exhaust for my Alpine. The pops are one thing. The fake induction noise via snorkel from engine bay to cabin is another one. That snorkel can however be removed easily, so you don't have to put up with this at least.

      @fritzbrause6332@fritzbrause6332 Жыл бұрын
    • +1.. The exhaust pop-pop intrusion is obnoxious. An easy fix I'm told.. Gotta luv the Alpine A110... For now I'll keep my time-honored '98 Carrera S (993) ..

      @michaelschneider-@michaelschneider- Жыл бұрын
    • Suspect the mic was also picking up more than other noises - road engine wind, as it sounded strange.

      @jerehada@jerehada Жыл бұрын
    • Not really a thing. I drive it daily and it's absent in normal mode and fun in sports mode.😉

      @spyros9756@spyros9756 Жыл бұрын
  • Given the reviewers' dislike of the A110S chassis setup, I note there's the A110GT.

    @nigel.w@nigel.w Жыл бұрын
    • AFAIK the S and the GT have identical chassis tunes. Only the "no letter" version that used to be the Pure has the "original" suspension that Gordon Murray found good enough to look at it as his benchmark for his GMA T.50 There is a great Carfection comparison in which the Alpine Pure and the S are compared on a Spanish or Portugese road by Henry Catchpole. Again the Pure gets the vote.

      @fritzbrause6332@fritzbrause6332 Жыл бұрын
    • @@fritzbrause6332 Nope, the GT has identical engine setup of the S, but the chassis of the base version. Wouldn't make sense to slap a GT badge on a track suspension car after all

      @MitchWebb94@MitchWebb94 Жыл бұрын
    • @@fritzbrause6332 There are two distinct upper models for good reason. The S and GT have completely different chassis setups. S is for Sport (smooth roads/track); GT is for grand touring (soft/comfortable). S also has more sport oriented interior; GT has luxury oriented interior. Both have uprated power.

      @nigel.w@nigel.w Жыл бұрын
    • I own a Légéndé (252 hp) with the springs and rolling bars of the S on it Not stiffer but deff more settled in high speed turns and changes of direction. The best of two worlds and indeed a diabolical tool. Can’t be happier!

      @angelarnaudas@angelarnaudas Жыл бұрын
  • The problem with the Lotus is that its still very much a 2nd/3rd car which puts it well out of reach for the normal person with an above average wage. I don't have kids. But I own a 987.2 Cayman as my only car and its perfect for me and my wife and dog. While at the same time I can fit my 2 person drop stitch kayak plus all the kit that comes with it. You simple cannot do that in the Emira/4C/Alpine. That's what sets the Cayman apart. Which is why my dream car is the 718 GTS 4.0L.

    @ForgetfulFoot@ForgetfulFoot Жыл бұрын
  • Just to qualify your comment on cost, to get a decent spec the Cayman GTS is £85k all day long. I always love the fact that you have to pay a few grand to get the GTS interior on the GTS!?

    @markbaldwin579@markbaldwin579 Жыл бұрын
  • Good vid. Maybe test the 4 cylinders versions against each other? All I'm sure the lotus will have it, the merc engine is very good and less weight will help[ plus its newer.

    @leemoldon@leemoldon Жыл бұрын
  • For me, it was the Lotus Emira. It's the full package - looks, performance and price

    @bulmkt97@bulmkt97 Жыл бұрын
    • but C8 is better

      @Howdy762@Howdy762 Жыл бұрын
    • Price? I think this is still very expensive in terms of a credit from Lotus. The monthly costs were about 1.2k. It’s quiet a lot for a 90k car.

      @chris_4044@chris_4044 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Howdy762 hmmm does the C8 come with a manual transmission?

      @kobinawilliams6077@kobinawilliams6077 Жыл бұрын
    • @@chris_4044 In AUD terms on road the I4 version comes out to be just over $190K

      @bulmkt97@bulmkt97 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Howdy762 the Corvette C8 is a very nice car

      @bulmkt97@bulmkt97 Жыл бұрын
  • The exotic beauty the lotus gets my nod of these three. These three are all fabulous so no wrong choice here

    @JBsC6@JBsC6 Жыл бұрын
  • The young guy is a breath of fresh air. Well done 👍

    @wernerengel4919@wernerengel4919 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Werner!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Most folks, including myself would buy any of these cars as a 2 nd or even 3 rd car. So, which one would you pick? The car that excites me the most is without doubt, the Lotus. The car just looks perfect, the proportions are perfect. I own a 2016 Porsche GTS and it is a fantastic vehicle, yet i would choose the Lotus if i were to buy another one to replace my GTS. Having said that, i dont think you can go wrong with either car.

    @jandejong8209@jandejong8209 Жыл бұрын
    • But what if its your only car? The problem with the Lotus is that its still very much a 2nd/3rd car. I don't have kids. But I own a 987.2 Cayman as my only car and its perfect for just me and my wife and dog. While at the same time I can fit my 2 person drop stitch kayak plus all the kit that comes with it. You simple cannot do that in the Emira/4C/Alpine. That's what sets the Cayman apart. You can say the same thing about the 911. But those are for rich people.

      @ForgetfulFoot@ForgetfulFoot Жыл бұрын
    • @@ForgetfulFoot I haven't shopped or driven these cars, but I suspect what you say is true. One car, Porsche. Second car, Lotus. Second car you intend to track on occasion, Lotus with the track set up as an easier decision. It's really hard to deny the looks of Lotus. I can't think of a better looking car for the money... possibly, ever.

      @thedalillama@thedalillama Жыл бұрын
    • 16 Cayman GTS owner here too. I recently drove a 718 spyder with the 4.0 and I will say that engine is quite a bit different than the 3.4 we have, IMO it lacks some of the character that we have. So as a weekend proposition, the lotus seems far more special.

      @Poorschedriver@Poorschedriver Жыл бұрын
    • @@Poorschedriver 718 GTS 4.0 owner here and even though I love the sound of 981, the new engine itself is way better. Not only is it faster, but the torque and overall powerband is a lot better, and makes the car much more of a joy to drive.

      @MrRandomTwat@MrRandomTwat Жыл бұрын
    • 4cyl abortion of a Porsche. Sell it

      @crimsonpirate1710@crimsonpirate1710 Жыл бұрын
  • All three would be a blast own or even try out, but I bought the Boxster GTS 4.0. If I'm going to have a car this special, I want to be in it as much as possible and that is why the Boxster checked all the boxes for me. Amazing style, flexibility, every day'er (just about), and forgiving enough for my wife and exciting enough for me on my own. If you can afford multiple cars for multiple occasions, great, but I'm thrilled with this one.

    @gerryphilpott9766@gerryphilpott9766 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video and competition to watch - love all three cars for different reasons but that engine alone I’d have the Porsche. 👍👍

    @julianhawkins9423@julianhawkins9423 Жыл бұрын
  • Cayman GTS. My vote was cast last year, as we have one at home already 😀 I’d love the Lotus to drive I know, but a Cayman is just SO practical! Road trips for two with luggage space to spare. And THAT 4.0 engine is amazing 🤓

    @DontPanicDear@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, even though it doesn't look as good, at least to me, and is undoubtedly ageing, the GTS 4.0 is still a true thoroughbred, and residuals will almost certainly be in its favour in the medium term. However, in the short term, for those with early build slots, I suspect they will be able to flip their cars for profit, likely in the region of 10k.

      @nigel.w@nigel.w Жыл бұрын
    • Cayman is a big money maker for the far larger Porsche company. Lotus was never going to outsell it. Better to offer something different. All the Emiras sold out quick so it looks as if they achieved their objective.

      @andrewnorris5415@andrewnorris5415 Жыл бұрын
    • I’ve had a 4.0 GTS for over a year now. They are very good for everything.

      @mrlotusmic@mrlotusmic Жыл бұрын
    • @@mrlotusmic ….and on all roads too 😀

      @DontPanicDear@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
    • i daily my evora (emira-old) and have 85,000+ on 3 of them. I drive it everywhere and haul lots of kids and stuff.

      @philip4633@philip4633 Жыл бұрын
  • guy in the blue shirt does a really exceptional job of conveying a car's qualities, would love to hear and see more from him.

    @misplacedape@misplacedape Жыл бұрын
    • I thought that too.

      @jaysix8032@jaysix8032 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly true. One of the most articulate motoring journalist I've listened to for a long while and actually understands the machines he's presenting. Excellent work.

      @varmastiko2908@varmastiko2908 Жыл бұрын
  • Great review guys, thanks so much. BUT for me, i want to see part 2 - a Cayman GT4 vs an Emira GT 4pot AMG (mapped to 420) - this is in reality what my choice will look like. Im sorry but all Porsche (non-gt) are just plain and a bit dull, like the Golf of the sportscar world. Loved the review, but i think i was right to wait and not place my Emira deposit just yet.

    @gbtivbay@gbtivbay Жыл бұрын
  • I'm very curious to hear some reviews of the AMG powertrain in the Emira meanwhile I love the Porsche but am looking at an Alpine to buy ...

    @filipb@filipb Жыл бұрын
  • Nothing wrong with a lot of noise, especially considering it's the last engineered (as opposed to programmed) car they'll make.

    @thepericlesof8449@thepericlesof8449 Жыл бұрын
  • Yellow Emira, with Black Roof, Silver Wheels and Touring Suspension please

    @garyhawkins9246@garyhawkins9246 Жыл бұрын
    • Black wheels

      @Alex-dz6xw@Alex-dz6xw Жыл бұрын
  • As a 981 s owner I am slightly biased but the Caymans are a brilliant driving machine as I am sure the Lotus and the Alpine are too. But It has to be the Cayman that is the winner. Btw, that was the best bit of car jounalism I've seen in a good while. Nice work!

    @wellrunsports1@wellrunsports1 Жыл бұрын
    • That's so great to hear, thanks wellrunssports! See you on the next video!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • The first ten and a half minutes of this video is how performance car journalism should be done: properly describing how the car feels to drive, and apparently using it properly. Five stars.

    @RalphOK@RalphOK Жыл бұрын
    • That's very kind of you Ralph K, thank you! Let us know what you think to our upcoming videos too!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Interesting: TG puts them the complete opposite way around. I guess it shows the importance of a test drive to determine which one is best for you (instead of relying on YT reviews!).

    @GarryMcGovern@GarryMcGovern Жыл бұрын
  • at last an honest review with the cayman. since the emira every journo refers to Porsche as brilliant .. when couple years ago its gearing is long it flakes on bumpy roads and ..its the obvious choice and a bit boring....I like this guy. loved the fact he expressed the lotus character a bit more and not just on pure performance. great work

    @doug3011@doug3011 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Doug, that's really great to hear! Keep your eyes peeled for our upcoming videos :)

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Great review

    @MrPopestar@MrPopestar Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • I would like to see a drag race between the v6 and r4 Emira!

    @TheBepo1986@TheBepo1986 Жыл бұрын
  • My money went on … the Emira … but AMG engine with DCT and touring spec and I think that round 2 will be interesting as that’ll be the spec that most Lotus owners are looking at currently. My S1 Elise is going nowhere however … 😊👍

    @DoctorJezz@DoctorJezz Жыл бұрын
    • Enjoy that detuned engine with the locked ECU. Lotus got you to pay 2x the price of a CLA for a neutered engine. Crazy

      @andrewrossnagel9433@andrewrossnagel9433 Жыл бұрын
  • Intro shot was fire 🔥 0:00

    @deshmukhshrut@deshmukhshrut Жыл бұрын
  • I think it really boils down to what you want the car for track ,touring or as a second car for fun as an all rounder the Porsche but as a second car the lotus but on my drive the looks of the Lotus would turn more heads

    @davidpenney1273@davidpenney1273 Жыл бұрын
  • Have a Porsche Boxster GTS practically be damned, I am purchasing a LOTUS V6 Manual. I am keeping the Porsche but the LOTUS is a dream, so happy the that lotus nailed it! the young guy loved it and the older dad wanted the more practical car. Personally I want a beautiful mistress, a lover to enjoy life " the Exotic "

    @andrewmcclellan1850@andrewmcclellan1850 Жыл бұрын
  • I didn't expect to say this, but Alpine for me. Apart from the pops and bangs.

    @DavidMorley@DavidMorley Жыл бұрын
    • They’re not very noticeable in reality, especially in normal mode…

      @captainianr@captainianr Жыл бұрын
  • Likely going to choose from a used 718 Cayman GTS 4.0, 981 GT4 or Lotus Emira early next year and really struggling to pick but think ill likely go Cayman GTS 4.0

    @chrisdnz7@chrisdnz79 ай бұрын
  • I placed an order on Cayman GTS in April, but was sitting on an edge of a chair, biting my nails thinking that maybe Emira would have been a better choice, but there were no reviews and barely any information about the car at that time. I was wondering how supercharged V6 compares to flat 6. GTS 4.0 felt a bit dull in regular city driving as the engine could not rev up high enough to the sweet spot where the most of the torque is. Turbocharged GTS 2.5 felt a bit more exciting at times with the low end kick, but overall enjoyment and connection suffers a bit compared to naturally aspirated, especially outside of the town. I thought that maybe Emira could have the best of both worlds... In the end the deciding factor was availability and inflation. I just could not sit waiting for another year to buy a car.

    @Dragobrath@Dragobrath Жыл бұрын
  • I'll take the Alpine

    @minibus1351@minibus1351 Жыл бұрын
    • Me too. Ironic really that the car most loyal to the Lotus lightweight mantra is not the Emira but the Alpine. I don’t think it serves Lotus well to have come out with such a relatively heavy car

      @fb30xhk@fb30xhk Жыл бұрын
    • @@fb30xhk My thoughts exactly. With a mantra "add lightness", people expect it to be at least on par with a Cayman if not significantly lighter.

      @minibus1351@minibus1351 Жыл бұрын
    • I have one, lowered, geo setup and mapped to 300ps, and this is the correct answer 10/10 comment

      @jonnowocky8179@jonnowocky8179 Жыл бұрын
    • Wouldn’t touch a french car

      @michaelerisman757@michaelerisman757 Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed, despite the French are fart sniffers

      @naiart82@naiart82 Жыл бұрын
  • I test drove a Boxster GTS and A110 GT before putting an order in for a Giulia Quadrifoglio which is much better than both. Actually preferred the A110 over the Boxster GTS which really surprised me. I haven't driven the Lotus yet but I think my choice would be Emira, A110 (GT not S) and then Cayman.

    @memo3872@memo3872 Жыл бұрын
    • Interesting comment, these cars are actually on my short list, how would you describe your experience and how is the Giulia much better?

      @a.h.403@a.h.4037 ай бұрын
    • The Giulia is an all-round utterly brilliant car, the design process being the opposite way around to the Germans with the Quadrifoglio being designed first by Ferrari engineers seconded to Alfa and the lower models being derived from it which is why they all have a carbon-fibre prop-shaft for example. The GQ has perfect 50/50 weight distribution so it behaves like a mid-engined car most of the time with loads of grip from a sublime chassis and yet it is RWD with loads of power so you can have a different kind of fun should you feel like it. It is a saloon and looks awesome, even better in real life than in any photos or videos. The sense of occasion is just as strong as in the other cars mentioned. I also love the rarity and the fact people don't know what it is. I have driven the Emira since the comment above and my expected order of preference was correct. They are all great cars although if you choose a Porsche the 981 generation is much more enjoyable than the 718 in my experience and I did end up buying a 981 Spyder whilst waiting for my Giulia. I hope that helps a bit and good luck with your choice! @@a.h.403

      @memo3872@memo38727 ай бұрын
    • @@memo3872 Thanks for your reply ! Very helpful indeed, we can clearly see how you like this GQ ! Now I really hesitate between GQ, Lotus Evora GT410 sport and Alpine A110S. Living in the Alps, I just fear the GQ would be a little too heavy despite all its qualities and Lotus pr Alpine would make more sense.

      @a.h.403@a.h.4037 ай бұрын
    • You're a very lucky chap/chapess with all those Alpine passes on your doorstep! I guess if it's compact and light you're after and I wouldn't blame you as some of those hairpins can be three-point-turn sharp then I guess the Alpine wins but I think I would still choose the Evora which is a great car, not to discount the GQ which carries its extra weight with much aplomb@@a.h.403

      @memo3872@memo38727 ай бұрын
  • I'm a Porsche guy, but was really rooting for the Lotus. Anything less than the 4.0 and Lotus would have won.

    @amgguy4319@amgguy4319 Жыл бұрын
  • As a 718 GTS 4.0 owner I can say that I'm happy with your conclusion. The Lotus got a look that's more 2020's for sure and win on that aspect, but the Cayman is from 2012 so I'd like to see some comparison with the replacement in 2024 I guess.

    @BurgerCroissant@BurgerCroissant Жыл бұрын
    • Spoiler alert it will look the same! Porches are brilliant cars no doubt, but they havnt really changed or evolved, they just improve the technology. For me the Lotus takes this. Enjoy your 718, i am sure its a lovely car.

      @edwilliams5417@edwilliams5417 Жыл бұрын
    • @@edwilliams5417 the new 718 will be the same ?

      @Alex-dz6xw@Alex-dz6xw Жыл бұрын
  • I really enjoyed this video - the presenters are like two friends you lent your cars to for a review. My only suggestion would be to have at least one front facing cam inside the car that'll allow the viewer to review the cockpit a bit more. I am amongst the poor souls that live in a country where we are not allowed to buy Alpine cars.

    @numarc1010@numarc1010 Жыл бұрын
  • As an average Joe, who loves sports cars, yet have never driven any of these, I would gladly take either one and be happy for eternity.

    @arymonem@arymonem Жыл бұрын
    • We completely agree Ary! They're all amazing!

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • Lotus, with it’s full on super car looks and superb performance and driver involvement. Plus it’s British (obviously not the owner).

    @iwobbly9374@iwobbly9374 Жыл бұрын
  • Emira for me, a perfect package. Great style, impressive performance, superb handling and certainly much more visual appeal

    @allen7999@allen7999 Жыл бұрын
  • ngl even as a fan and owner of the Porsche Cayman, i'd find it extremely hard to decide between the Cayman GTS and the Emira. As a Cayman owner, I can confirm that the steering and handling is something that makes you feel like an absolute hero. And even tho it might not be the fastest, if it's your first sportscar (as mine is), it has more than enough power to satisfy. Also that practically of having two trunks makes it soo usable as a daily car. I can go out, do full shopping, and both the front and back spaces are enough to take it all. I've only had to do that maybe once or twice, most of the time i'm just getting a few bags and a box of coke and putting it in the frunk. But to have that extra space on hand, it's just excellent. As for the Emira, in terms of looks, you're basically getting a smaller Maserati MC20. So from the get-go, you've got an absolute looker and head turner. Whether that's good or bad is up to you. The steering and power delivery is basically the same as the GTS, though you look to get slightly more power but less steering feel than the GTS. The only one true complaint I would have the with Emira is the lack of practicality, the lack of a even a frunk especially, just seems really odd to me. Though I totally understand how that can make the Emira feel more like an occasion than the Cayman. But for me personally, I want that added practically lol Either way, you're still getting an absolutely fantastic sportscar for your money, albeit for different reasons. I don't think anyone can complain if they got either car.

    @RossCuth@RossCuth Жыл бұрын
  • I bought a 718 Cayman Boxster and been really pleased with it. The more you drive it, the greater the appreciation. I agree in a way it’s not the most ‘exciting’ option, but it handles brilliantly, easy to drive. Doesn’t feel awkward at slower speeds and loves to pick up the pace. The cabin isn’t high tech with whizzy extras, but it’s done very well. I know it’s not why you buy a sports car but it’s also practical. Two boots both very useable. Roomy inside with a passenger, soft too takes up no storage space when down. Personally I’m happier with it now then when I first purchased the car.

    @paulcain9442@paulcain9442 Жыл бұрын
    • How have you found the GTS gearbox? If u rev it out.... you are over speed limit in second, sometimes first. Find it frustrating. Would be great to be able to shift a couple of times to get up to motorway speed....

      @gymbeats6050@gymbeats6050 Жыл бұрын
    • @@gymbeats6050 I’ve got the automatic gearbox. I find it okay, feels a little heavy at lower speeds but that helps keep within city limits.

      @paulcain9442@paulcain9442 Жыл бұрын
    • @@paulcain9442 enjoy bossman 👍

      @gymbeats6050@gymbeats6050 Жыл бұрын
  • Do you like the seat? Seems like you move a lot in it. I am 193cm tall 115kg. Do I fit?

    @lambrosstamos4494@lambrosstamos4494 Жыл бұрын
  • I raced the 981 Cayman GTS around Speedvegas and it is the best car I have driven.

    @CruiseControl1@CruiseControl1 Жыл бұрын
    • I raced a Ferrari 458 there I’ll take that. But I’d buy a C8 Corvette over all of them.

      @craigthescott5074@craigthescott5074 Жыл бұрын
  • Having owned a few cayman S/GTS’s I can’t leave the Porsche but I’ll admit this car has me shopping for one. I no longer have a cayman since “I’m all grown up” but nothing wrong with owning one of these.

    @utcougar@utcougar Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, cayman for me, lotus sounded awesome though.

    @thedrivebygg@thedrivebygg Жыл бұрын
  • All great comments below. I'm surprised the statement; "Tesla is faster" hasn't been posted as of yet. Maybe, that is just reserved for C8 Stingray reviews. Anyway, how was the understeer between these 3 vehicles? How about the braking. Did the Lotus have the optional CUP tires? Was the leather top tier in all 3 cars?

    @ronretired282@ronretired282 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Just to note too much hand movement when presenting is distracting!

    @Peregrine-qp4fq@Peregrine-qp4fq Жыл бұрын
  • I think the Emira looks stunning .. I’ve got a Porsche Boxster and travel all over Europe . It’s the amount of kit I can get in it ..For the kind of car it is .It’s fab and practical .

    @thefilmandmusic@thefilmandmusic Жыл бұрын
  • Does anyone know what the opening music track is? It's epic!!

    @stevie1464@stevie14644 ай бұрын
  • TO BE THE MAN;YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN! Porsche is the king. So, you have to get really exceptional or you run second. You do not dethrone anyone with a countout or disqualification. Beside, first iterations are always a learning car. Great effort. Just come back with version two. That being said, they all are very, very good cars. Good comparison!

    @erniekrass6407@erniekrass6407 Жыл бұрын
    • We totally agree Ernie, they're awesome! Keep your eyes peeled for more of our future comparisons :)

      @CARmagazineTV@CARmagazineTV Жыл бұрын
  • So glad Porsche won, mines on its way from the factory and always wondered whether should have gone for Alpine or Lotus. Defo would have gone Alpine if it was more like 50k

    @bigvern5163@bigvern5163 Жыл бұрын
  • Now that the final factory bits have been decided, i'd like to see if there's any difference in the decisions. Mr Metcalfe seems well chuffed with his newly delivered Emira.

    @lesflynn4455@lesflynn4455 Жыл бұрын
  • Totally agree with the conclusion, it almost feels like they are deliberately limiting the car at some point for instance, the 2gr being limited to 6.5 is underwhelming, similarly with the shifter and so on. Although i would say, it's (the engine) aftermarket support is been on a incline for a while, hence with just a pair of camshafts this engine revs to 7.5 or 8 extremely freely, and having that supercharger increases its power potential even more. I also agree that power isn't everything, but it also acts as a catalyst to add other components such as coilovers, adjustable control arms/camber plates and much more. Hence, i think for someone who tinkers with there car the emira would be a better choice, whereas the Cayman is almost perfect cat from the get go.

    @taarunjain6012@taarunjain6012 Жыл бұрын
    • I'm not sure how much Lotus change out on the engine, but Lotus are not going to be allowed to operate the engine beyond the OEM design parameters set by Toyota. Tuners can take a risk, whereas Lotus as an OEM respecting Toyota's wishes and their agreement, as well as offering a warranty, cannot. (AFAIK Lotus change out nothing on the engine internals and are already stressing the engine more than a standard Camry V6/GS350 by way of the supercharger, but if Lotus indeed change out the oil pump, conrods, valve springs and so forth to support high rpm then fair enough, in that case it would be strange that Lotus wouldn't operate the engine up to the rpm to what it's capable of.) Edit -- from reading forums, it seems the exhaust camshaft is the only internal engine part which Lotus change from the original engine (the injectors and intake manifold are also different). So if the engine cannot turn to 8000rpm within OEM reliability requirements in a Lexus GS350 or Toyota Camry, I don't see how it can suddenly turn to 8000rpm within OEM Toyota reliability requirements in a Lotus? :)

      @TassieLorenzo@TassieLorenzo Жыл бұрын
    • @@TassieLorenzo Yes you are correct Toyota won't let lotus rev it part the OEM spec, but I'm trying to approach this from an aftermarket perspective. The thing is, the 2gr generally has low to mid range power in our Camrys, not high end power, and we know that Toyota reliability targets have always been very high and they over engineer their engines(same is the case with the gr Yaris). If you look at the dyno graphs from any evora with the supercharged v6 we know that it produces it's until the redline, and they don't lose power even when redline is raised to 7k. I'm not saying change every part of the engine, but these small changes go a long way on improving the driving experience.(although it's my personal opinion)

      @taarunjain6012@taarunjain6012 Жыл бұрын
  • That dudes hands are hypnotic

    @Carrera-gp9od@Carrera-gp9od Жыл бұрын
  • The emira have the same problems trasmition cluch replacement like evora?????🤔😊😊😊

    @orlandodiaz515@orlandodiaz51511 ай бұрын
  • The emira sounds just amazing. You want that from a sportscar. For daily driver the cayman is the business. I drove the alpine. I would chose that one. However it misses classic dials and finish...

    @govertvanamerongen5902@govertvanamerongen5902 Жыл бұрын
  • Would like to see all 3 cars up against each other. 300 kilos might make for the deciding differences i lap times.

    @kimkristensen2816@kimkristensen2816 Жыл бұрын
  • Emira's more car even though it's less storage. I bet it's the most comfortable to take on a trip, esp. with touring package. And that look!

    @davidquinn9676@davidquinn9676 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s hard to not love the Lotus badge on the bonnet of your personal ride.

    @davidorama6690@davidorama6690 Жыл бұрын
  • What was that noise the A110S was making?

    @HandRpuffin@HandRpuffin Жыл бұрын
  • Love the three. But I'd choose the Emira!

    @jorgeluiscapiello414@jorgeluiscapiello414 Жыл бұрын
  • I think I’m going to go on the list for the Emira. I’m getting a C8 Stingray but if they are going to be marking the Z06 to high hell I might as well wait.

    @Darth_Arashi@Darth_Arashi Жыл бұрын
    • I’m in the same boat. I want the c8 stingray, but the Emira to me is just such a unique car and you won’t see as many of them as the c8

      @u.b.469@u.b.469 Жыл бұрын
    • Z06 will just make u giggle every time u get in it worth the money. You just wont feel as special in it as it is still a corvette. But if u can get by that it's absolutely wonderful

      @mitchellcobb4826@mitchellcobb48265 ай бұрын
  • Lotus should've used a gated change to remove the propensity for maybe getting 5th instead of 3rd gear. 'Getting used to it' was tolerable for my mate's old 6 speed Volvo diesel but not at this kind of money.

    @michaelarchangel1163@michaelarchangel1163 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm sure they are all wonderful drivers cars but there isn't a bad car these days so my choice would be mainly to do with aesthetics, and the lotus wins this test for me 👍

    @mbangs81@mbangs81 Жыл бұрын
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