Duolingo Versus Rosetta Stone: Gamified Versus Systematic Language Learning
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I sometimes feel like I learn more from the hints in Duolingo than the actual lesson. I always make sure to view the hints before doing it to reinforce something new.
Exactly! I think Duolingo activities help you see the patterns over time, but the _hints_ are what help us understand what's really going on. Definitely good to use them as you do! :D
Great video! This was really helpful. Thank you so much!
You're welcome! I'm glad this video is still helpful after a few years haha
This was very helpful. You're awesome!!
I'm super glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for dropping a comment 🔥 Keep up the good work!
Great video, it helped me a lot. And you have a nice voice 😊 Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much, so glad it helped! Best of luck on your language learning journey 🐦
What a great video! Super informative🙌
Glad you think so! Means a lot that people are taking things away from it :]
thank you so much! you are helping me with my assignment right now
You are so welcome! If I may ask, what's the assignment? Not sure if it's generally for language learning or something pertaining to these applications, but I am curious!
Thank you, I was having problems with choosing an app to learn and what I'm ending up doing is using both and see which one wins. This is the exact video I've been looking for as I've been searching online "what is the difference between Rosetta Stone and Duolingo" and haven't found many rewarding answers. Also, I love learning about languages recently as I was told that I don't have very good language or comprehension skills and at 45 I don't want it to decline, I want it to continue to get better. Subscribed.
Learning languages is fun for sure! I'm tackling Russian this year and decided to use both platforms because they use different approaches that are both great. I wish you the best with your learning endeavors, and I'm glad that this video could be of help!
A great video, so helpful, many thanks
So glad you got some value out of it! 🔥
Very thoughtful, articulate and helpful!
Glad it was helpful! I have a few other language videos cooking in my brain but I think it's about time I get started on those. Thanks for dropping by and best of luck in your language learning journey! 🔥
This was fantastic. Thank you for putting in the effort to make this video!
So glad you got value out of it! Thank you!
Fabulous breakdown, Mark! I love that you showed your work and all the research and thought that went into your opinion. The fast pace was good, and I was hanging on your every word. Every part of the video had value and you look like you had a lot of fun making it! 💯 Now I know the differences of both and which is best for my needs 😊
Thankyou thankyou! Thanks for feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed :D
Hey Mark, thanks a lot. A lot of videos talk about them but I found yours to be the best one for what I needed :] I have a bit more than a year to learn and practice Korean. I think I'll get a plan from Rosetta stone. Tried their 3 days trial, liked the fact that it was full immersion. Still keeping duolinguo though, always better to have multiple resources. Anyway, thanks again !
Heya! Super glad you got something from it. In the 2+ years since I’ve made this video I’ve actually done a good amount of research on second language acquisition. I discuss a lot of things in my japanese learning logs on the channel, but all in all definitely keep consistent practice on the apps- just make sure to also use other resources (if you aren’t already) like music and podcasts and flashcard for vocab. Gotta use what we can as cognizant adults! Most importantly though, enjoy the journey 🔥🔥 Thanks for dropping a comment!
Very helpful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Best of luck with your language learning endeavors 😀
Great video my man!!!
Thanks for the data focused review dude
Not a problem! Hope it helped 🔥
Good video . Keep dropping them .
Thanks! I'll keep 'em coming :D
Thanks you did great ❤️
Glad you liked it!
I'm learning Arabic too. Duolingo has been waaaay more helpful than Rosetta Stone.
Really? That surprises me, but pleasantly! Duolingo's arabic course has very little for material (maybe they've changed it up since?). Glad to hear your experience with Duolingo is more positive!
@@markbacon78 I really like Duolingo but* there are 5 lessons in a level and (usually) 5 levels in a bubble. I counted all of the bubbles and there were over 200! If I complete one lesson (literally) everyday then it would take "years" to complete Duolingo considering there are usually 25 lessons per bubble, am I wrong about that?
U look so much different than u did at the beginning of the year omg. Also I am learning German and Korean on Duolingo & it’s pretty great. Plus it is free lol. Great video as always dude (:
Heya! Been a while since I've seen ya comment haha. Glad you enjoyed! And hey, nothing against either of these platforms. Duolingo is so fun, I just found Rosetta helped me focus on my weaker points. Keep on learning, glad you're expanding those horizons
Mark Bacon yeah dude this year has been so rough but I saw the notification for ur video and it made my day. We should link up again you’re a really great guy!
Merci pour cette très bonne analyse.
De rien! 🔥
Awesome graphics man. You dropped the crit on this. =]
Yea, see, I prefer duolingo too.... But I'm on the, "gamification sucks," team (hear me out =p). And I don't like that gamification and tons of gamification apps suck at actually achieving a game and not featuring some kind of story. That's cool that you're in a unique scenario to test this stuff out.
Hi, I´m Brazilian. My native language is portuguese. I achieved my fluency in english. Even though I´m fluent in english I keep working hard to get better and better in english because of my goals and because it became a passion for me. I use both(Duolingo and rosetta stones). But I do a lot of things for my english.
Thank you for this lovely video. I have enjoyed listening to you. I am learning Spanish on Duolingo and I like it. But I must say that it is SA Spanish (to be honest, I can easily understand listening comprehension) and American English (with many grammar mistakes) so Duolingo is just for some basic knowledge. At least I don't mix Italian and Spanish any more (I have learnt Italian offline 😊). Keep up with your great videos and with learning the languages!
You're very welcome! I'm glad that the video was enjoyable. Keep up your language learning journey! 🐦
Yo! Thank you so much for such a great review.
Glad you enjoyed! Hope you took away some value from it
So I'm currently using Doulingo to learn Spanish. I plan on getting Rosetta Stone for Christmas. I really enjoyed the breakdown on the strengths & weaknesses of each program. My hope is that with a little work each day between both programs I'll become proficient in Spanish....then perhaps I'll venture into another language.
Great battle plan! I think it's good to use both programs. I've found Duolingo to be primarily vocab for me at this point, and Rosetta Stone is great for picking up patterns on my own. However, I'd also highly encourage doing things like reading news articles in Spanish (easy or hard, your choice), even kids books are great, and watching TV shows in Spanish with subtitles on in English (and eventually without!) The learning programs are great, but applying them in your day-to-day life with comprehensible/easy to understand input, or so I've found, really reinforces the ideas taught in Duolingo and Rosetta Stone. Nothing like watching a TV show in Russian and shouting "I KNOW THAT WORD!" ahaha
This is an incredibly comprehensive review of these 2 programs. This video needs more thumbs up.
I'm incredibly grateful that you found it comprehensive- me and conciseness don't often get along well, haha. Thanks so much and I'm so glad you got some value from it! 😀
Great informative video
Glad you think so! Thanks for dropping the comment.
I think Duolingo is good for someone completely new to a language, to 'get your toes wet' and then supplement it with other resources for the language. I do agree that the listening and speaking sections can be a bit flawed at times.
That's a really good way to put it- just wetting your feet and then jumping into more complex things if you choose to take it more seriously 🤔
I love your video! I'm looking for English online class. There are many person looking for English as a second language. Please make a video about English course. Thanks so much!
Fantastic idea! I will look for that and see what I find. I know both Rosetta and Duo do English courses, but I will do research. Glad you enjoyed :)
I'm doing Japanese in Duolingo and I must say that I quite like the listening exercises and don't find them hard to understand. Sometimes Duolingo gives them too early when I don't know enough of the vocab and I just have to skip them, but when they work they work great. So I guess this differs from language to language. I don't think one can draw conclusions from this to more difficult languages, as Spanish and Italian is much closer to English than let say Russian and Japanese, so this might change how effective Rosetta Stone's no English approach is.
On the note of the Japanese thing, the recent changes have been good. It trust the listening in Japanese is pretty good, but from what I did this 'experiment' over a year ago the Spanish audio was very unclear. Sort of like giving you fluent speaking when you're not ready for it yet. I think the audio I had a tough time with had its place, but that place was at a later level. I also agree that it's hard to extrapolate all of this to more concrete languages. Having used Rosetta Stone Russian for several months no, there still remains the issue of no English. I bought Russian For Dummies and once they explained the grammar and I used it to learn the pronunciation of the Cyrillic alphabet, Rosetta Stone became 10x more useful. I'm sort of developing a research project more on this, but I definitely agree with what you're saying- I think my past experience just differs to what is offered now. Thanks for dropping a comment and the insight on the vid! Really appreciate it 🔥
I'm doing Japanese in Rosetta Stone and so far I'm matching pictures to flashcards with sentences that I can't understand half of. It's going great! :'D
I just want to be able to talk to my family in Japan (im half Japanese half American. ) I only know English. But I'm going to use both apps and see which one works better for me. This was a good video!
That's the best way to go- sample everything until you find what works best for YOU! Personally I've found the alphabet systems on Duolingo, such as in the Japanese and Russian courses, can take away from the experience a bit. I would definitely recommend diving into the language and learn the characters as you come across them over and over, but no harm in trying to memorize them either 😀
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De nada!
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I can dream, haha, but maybe one day. Maybe this Saturday's follow up video will help with growth :) Thanks for the optimism, day made
Bravissimo! Grazie!
Prego! :D
As a person that believes in immersion, an absolute beginner need SOME explanation like how the alphabet or script works in your target language. That’s why most people that start Rosetta Stone quit. Maybe if your native language’s alphabet is similar to your target language but then again I feel that grammar needs to be somewhat explained.
Couldn't agree more! I've got another video coming out in just a couple of days that essentially says language learning apps are useless, at least for adults, unless you use something like For Dummies and use other resources to learn what's going on under the hood. Thanks for the feedback! Hope you enjoyed the video.
Mark, you did such an excellent job with this video. I am thoroughly impressed with your analysis and delivery. Skillful beyond your years. I have a 6-year-old daughter who wishes to learn Japanese and Korean and I am still on the fence on what program, to begin with. Based on your presentation I think I will do Rosetta Stone but are you familiar with other platforms? Keep up the good work! You are pretty amazing!
Wow, thank you! I am so glad you enjoyed the video. I unfortunately do not have experience with other programs like Babbel or The Pimsleur Method (although maybe one day I'll try them), but any one can work! The main idea I've taken away from these other platforms is incorporating things like TV shows with Rosetta Stone (great primary learning device to base curriculum around) to make things more immersive in the home environment- especially making use of the younger age as well- such as my attempts to read French books and make French videos as well as watching some TV shows in Italian. I do know a lot of people who use Duolingo for Japanese, and for a younger audience the gamification could be helpful when used with something more traditional like Rosetta Stone to keep up the enthusiasm behind it! Hope all goes well :)
The comment section on Duolingo is priceless. So much information!
True! I think that's become much stronger lately. I honestly love the community idea of any app, from streaming services to language learning. Thanks for dropping by the vid!
I'm all about the aggressive pace. Makes me open my mind to the 'listening' side of things instead of fighting off my boredom :P
I dig it! I think language learning needs to be a bit more "aggressive" in general; jumping into conversations regardless of how much you know, listening to songs, going beyond the "curriculum" at whatever pace you're given. Thanks for watching and keep it up! 👊
I’ve decided to give Russian a try, I have no reason to other than I just want to know. I’m going to give duolingo a shot first and try to watch Russian videos and stuff and immerse myself that way. Either way, thank you so much for a systematic analysis of the two platforms...kind of reminds me of the NileRed youtube channel. Cheers 🙌🏻
I’m doing Russian myself- definitely a worthy opponent! Definitely watching tv in Russian has helped me want to know more about it, haha. Doing some work with the alphabet has also been super helpful so I can work on reading Russian with whatever lessons Rosetta Stone gives me. It’s tough but you got this! 🔥 Glad you enjoyed the video and I take the NileRed similarity as a huge compliment, so thank you! Haha
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I'm learning Russian too. Can you tell me which is better with Russian? Are you finding yourself with duolingo or Rosetta stone?
@@abderwahed yep. I have a ~540 day streak on Duolingo. Love the platform.
@@pkmachinegun are you able to speak and understand Russian now?
Duo lingo is free, and becomes more fun as you level up.
Honestly, I've been using it lately, and it has improved so much! Rosetta Stone still useful but practically unchanged. I wonder what their business model has been lately.
I am using Duolingo to learn French (Duolingo is really only great for French and Spanish as that is their main languages. Things might change as time goes on and other languages might become more fleshed out overtime) and the hardest part is all the different pre-tenses. Once you get a grasp on that, it isn't really that hard. I write stuff down and review hints to help me out. Some sentences are really odd though and wished there were less odd ones and more natural ones. I never used Rosetta Stone. I heard it really good and is one the best when it comes to speaking; though it is kind of expensive.
Yea Rosetta Stone is a little pricey, but it looks like you're using Duolingo well! It's a great place to start and a great thing to use as a central language learning tool. But as long as you do other things, like writing and speaking allowed during lessons, you're making the most of it! Thanks for stopping by the video.
Duolingo was way better than Rosetta Stone. I used to have Rosetta Stone for years and couldn't get fluent. So in 2017, I moved on to Duolingo and it was better.
I like the way you rated them both qualitative and quantitative :)
Thank you! I wanted to make sure I tackled these from a measurable point of view but also provide people with my opinion as someone who's adamant about learning languages. I'm glad you got some value from it! 🔥
This was very informative thank you. Idk why the dislikes those are haters smh
Ahaha, maybe they just ain't a fan of the language learning grind 😔 Nonetheless, thanks so much for your support and positivity! Super glad it helped, more language videos coming soon 🔥
I use a tablet since a few days, what i dont like about duolingo is the it cant go widescreen.
Great video!
Thank you!
I’m learning Japanese on duolingo and it is amazing. I try to max out every lesson. Every time I start a brand new lesson, I feel like I’ll never learn the kanji, by the the 5th go-round, I surprise myself on how much I remember due to the repetitiveness. I love it.
That's great to hear! I agree that those levels on each bubble really do build up, or "ramp up", efficiently. Only thing I'd say is to work on the material of those lessons outside of them, such as practicing writing out some new sentences on your own. Nonetheless, fantastic to hear you're maxing out the bubbles- levels 4 and 5 are when Duolingo's effectiveness really shines! Keep up the great learning 🔥
i watched this after 3 year of using duolingo for Chinese, Swdish and Russian, also duolingo now has lvl 6 as max
Mark! Great Comparison of Duolingovs Rosetta Stone. What would you recommend for my Fiancee who has just come to me here in the USA. She is from Ukraine, and speaks Ukrainian and needs to learn English. Thanks, John
That's a tough one, but if she's coming to the USA that's an advantage right there- jumping right into an English speaking environment. I would recommend Rosetta Stone because they've got some pretty good modules for English, and they recently released a program specifically intended for English learners! Best of luck
I tried a couple of Duolingo's Irish courses but, even with my limited knowledge, I spotted many errors and gave up. That the courses I tried had many mistakes was confirmed to me by a native Irish speaker. Maybe it was just the particular courses I happened on that were faulty, but I lost all confidence in Duolingo. Rosetta Stone charges UK and Continental learners almost twice as much as US learners. Why?
Unfortunately I have no idea why Rosetta Stone charges more outside US- could be because they are a US company or something? Very strange. And yes- Duolingo has great courses for the popular languages, but for things like Irish, it’s similar to the Arabic course I mentioned in this video- very incomplete and support is lacking. Babbel might be worth looking in to! Best of luck on your learning journey 🔥
Earlier this year I paid in advance for a year of Duolingo Plus and after about a month it just went away, reverted back to the free version. Tried reloading app. Duolingo has zero customer service. So I’m just out of luck, and $100. I’m not paying them again...
I'm sorry to hear that! I never really thought about their customer service. If you're using the app and on an Android, it's worth going into the Google Play app, under "Subscriptions", and seeing if you can re-activate it there. I believe the App Store has something similar for iPhones. If you got it on web though, I'm not sure what to check :( Bummer they really don't help out customers in those case...
Are you able to use Rosetta stone for multiple people? Or would each person need to purchase the program? Also I really liked your video. I will be watching more. Thank you for taking so much time in creating it.
Well, in theory you could give your login to multiple people, but Rosetta Stone doesn’t have multi-user support on one account. For example, if I completed all the Unit 1 lessons for Russian, anyone who used my account would have to “redo” lessons and keep track of their own progress. But you could have people share an account in theory, not sure if I’d endorse the decision though, haha. I’m super glad you liked the video! I’ve got a few more language learning videos in the works too. Super happy to hear this video continues to give value!
An alternative would be the good old Rosetta Stone Classic. Local install, built-in multiuser support, and no online accounts or subscriptions. Maybe it looks a bit old-fashioned, but it still works fine. And honestly, Rosetta Stone didn't change that much. Most of the contents were already available in the old version. You can buy a CD of this program on the second-hand market. (Many people use pirated versions. In theory, I'm ok with this, because it's abandonware. But nevertheless, I recommend a legit copy.)
So, would the ideal way to learn be to use both?
My thoughts on the matter have evolved quite a bit over the past two years, but as adults I think we should be doing a fair mix of things. There's really no short answer, but I made a video recently about the gamification aspect of language learning apps and talk about it a bit there so maybe that'll be a better answer? All in all, these things are tools that should be used alongside other learning. Learn grammar rules, do Duolingo, watch tv in your target language, etc. They shouldn't make up your whole learning journey.
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Je manges une pomme mean I eat an apple and not I am eating an apple which is Je suis en train de manger une pomme.
Funnily enough, I see the distinction between the two in French but in English I see no difference between "I eat an apple" and "I am eating an apple". Could be a language variation thing, but they're simply both present tense in my head. "Je mange..." and "je suis en train..." are definitely different to me though. The latter is more "I am in the process of eating..." to me? Not sure if that makes sense, but it's a good comment! Language is too subjective sometimes haha. I hope you enjoyed the vid regardless!
Interesting. 🤔
A word with many ambiguous meanings... nonetheless I hope it's one of the good ones and that you got something from the vid! Thanks for stopping by 🔥
@@markbacon78 Its a good one Sir Mark. I love languages. The analysis was "magnifique".
I can't be bothered to pay for Rosetta Stone lol, but I use Duolingo, and use other apps and resources along with it. I am currently learning German!
Yea that’s fair- for courses like German that are widely supported, Duolingo is still a great resource. It’s good that you use other apps and resources! No one thing will get you there imo, for example I’m using Rosetta, Drops, and watching a show on Netflix in Russian for Russian. Keep up the good work! 🔥
"I can't be bothered to pay for Rosetta Stone lol" - That reminds me of some pirated version of Rosetta Stone Classic 🏴☠️😂
With rosseta stone though when completed can u speak the language or is it more like knowing phrases?
As with anything, Rosetta Stone alone won't really go with you. Your level of fluency depends on how serious you take it. However, I will tell you that Rosetta Stone- taken more seriously at its core- will get you closer to fluency than Duolingo. You'll become conversational, but if you don't watch tv shows in your language, listen to podcasts on Spotify, etc. you won't reach fluency. Like when you learn math, you have to practice problems; when you're learning a language, you have to practice using it. Some more tips on that at the end of the vid, as well as the 3rd video in the mini series on language interviews with various students. Hope this helps!
I think English is more complicated than arabic specially in WRITING :)
Huh! Fascinating. I want to tackle arabic one day so I'll keep this in mind 🤔
Find a radio station in Spanish, and make a game as to what every commercial was for.
I love that idea! Makes great use of commute and/or general driving time 🔥 Thanks for dropping by the video!
@@markbacon78 I’ve been doing that only because the connection stopped working to play Spotify from my phone. I love music so putting two hobbies together is always fun. I play guitar and piano too. I’m also no good at it because I never have time to practice. But, I just painted a picture so......it just how I want to spent it. Going through Covid makes everything slower except my residents patience lol.
@@markbacon78 It is my pleasure. It’s very important to me because they say learning another language helps prevent Alzheimer’s and my mom has it. Once I became fairly fluent I noticed a change in my brain power. I was able to solve puzzles I couldn’t before and things like that. I’ve started learning a little German and I like it too. I also learned to read music, that should count lol. But I tried Irish and absolutely hated it. So unless someone is going to pay for me to go to Ireland I’m not going to learn that one. Languages with different letters seem really hard. But I love seeing all the girls learning Korean because they like Kpop
Why choose? Do both and get a more rounded learning experience. That’s my approach.
If you are able to pay for Rosetta Stone, I say definitely! I use both on an average basis, but for different languages. However, both work at different paces and you might be re-doing basics multiple times. Their structure is quite different but it can help solidify things. Regardless, I personally found my time in Rosetta to be massively more helpful for Russian so I don't do Duolingo Russian anymore. However, I'm pretty laid back on French so I keep up with French on Duolingo because it's much less intensive/I make it less intensive on myself 😀
Is it just me or does this guy kind of sound like John Green in his crash course videos?
Talks kinda fast and might be reading faster than he can process? Sounds about right ahaha. I took some inspiration from Crash Course because I know I talk fast but I'm still looking for a way for it to come across right... so thanks for the comment 😀 Hope you enjoyed the vid 🔥
I find Rosetta Stone frustrating - the pictures don’t give you a clue what the language is fully saying - it took me a while to work out how to actually use it.
I feel similarly, especially when it comes to pretty vague images ("is that window... or door...?"). While I definitely preferred it during this mini experiment of mine, I've found that Rosetta Stone can not be used strictly alone, but as a tool to pair with other resources. It's great for exposure to decent accents and a wide range of vocabulary, but without other external resources its power is dampened a bit. It definitely takes a while on how to best use it, but I'd definitely say that it's best used as part of a tool set- if that makes sense! Thanks for dropping by the video and moreso for the feedback! I really enjoy seeing the thoughts people have on this stuff
BUT your guessing what that is the ENGLISH description would help you learn faster
I gave Duolingo a try this week to learn Japanese and it really wasn't for me. It's too basic and limited. And it made me mad when I translated something into natural English and it said it was wrong.
I feel that. It starts off _real_ slow, but I do believe it picks up. Might be a good way to learn more vocab should you need a tool for that! I've found that mobile apps are just best for vocab and not really much else haha. Thanks for dropping by the vid! 🔥
Great information however, I encourage you PLEASE slow down when you’re talking. I missed a lot of your awesome information because I just couldn’t “digest “ your rapid fire info.
Haha, great point! It's been over two years since this and that's been one of the things I've worked on most. Still not quite there, but I'm working on it (especially for scripted videos like this). Thanks for dropping by and feel free to check out some of the later videos I've made in relation to this one! 🔥
Rosetta stone is confusing as hell. It doesnt bother to teach sentance structure at all and focuses only on things like saying "the red ball" or "the man is wearing a purple sweater" with a picture for each. It teaches you to associate a sound with a picture and not actually the language
Yea, the sentence structures never get very complex and that lack of complexity really doesn't encourage you to keep moving forward... It attempts to forfeit translation... "but at what cost"
The new duo lingo system with the hearts system is absolutely terrible.
Yea I don’t like using their iOS app. It’s like it discourages you in a way. Web browser doesn’t have it though so I do it on there! Thanks for dropping the comment
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Duolingo is getting only worse with time, the content is improving, the platform not so much... more grindy, hard to test out, and you lose hearts over typos and cannot progress. Btw Leadorboards suck and are so easy to cheat without learning a thing. The community and forums can be helpful, but I am getting still emails after 2 years that they accept my alternative translations... Rosetta Stone has its flaws as well, it is slow, though not slow compared to DuoLingo... Much better to learn language if you are motivated to learn it. But you need your inner motivation and stay focused. I do not like early output in language learning and the tricky thing in Rosetta Stone and others is they will not tell you wich sound you pronounced wrongly. Sadly neither is good for learning Finnish.
Unfortunately everything has its flaws... and I agree on those duolingo points. I remember trying to use the app on iOS and the heart system really holds you back! Had to stick with the web version but find it's tough to stick with. The leaderboards are fun but can lose their incentive after a while... So yea, that inner motivation you touch on is also super important. I would also recommend branching outside of these programs to watch tv/movies or just forcing yourself to speak/write for a couple minutes in your target language to challenge your brain and get the language flowing :D Never forget that end goal 👊
@@markbacon78 I like Duolingo for testing my language rather than learning it. Do not spend much time daily. I like to watch TV, and listen to radio, bit it takes me a long while to get from absolute beginner to intermediate/advanced level when I can start immersing in the language quite comfortably. Anyway, I actually use Harry Potter to learn languages, it has great translations and audiobooks, and I usually use LingQ, but I still need to learn at least the basic vocabulary and grammar before diving there.
Ah I missed this response! LingQ I've heard is fantastic and I think it's great to immerse yourself in the ways you are. Personally I listen to Russian podcasts that are for Russian learners (even though I still can't understand more than a few words) and French podcasts to tune my ears. Harry Potter also a great choice- no limits! Keep learning 👊
@@markbacon78 I also got TuneIn Radio, and that app is amazing. I can keep listening to foreign radios whenever I get internet connection, while driving or walking, just to train my ears and I can really _hear_ the progress I made in the last year. I prefer news channels, lots of fast paced talking and advanced (and often grammatically correct) language. I may not understand everything, but I can learn! Though mostly I use that to see how much I understand. It is nice to experience the first phase when I start identifying some key words and then the next phase when I understand the individual words but I have no time to make a mental image but over time I kind of stop identifying individual words but form that mental image of what is going on....
That's super cool! :D I'll definitely look into that app- never heard of it, so thanks for the update!
Rosetta Stone has Farsi/Persian, Duolingo does not..
This is indeed true! And if they did it would take a while for the course to become pretty detailed.
I have used Duolingo for four months to revise French from a B2 level. I do not recommend it. On its own I would say it’s great, but there are other products which are much better. Problems with it include: 1) Leader boards which make you focus on points instead of learning. It took me several months to realise this. 2) Serious bugs in the iPad application which can make it impossible to answer a question. 3) Very poor English, which makes me worry about the quality of the French. 4) Errors in the French, confirmed by native speakers. 5) Really weird phrases such as "The boss will not travel without his penguin" and "Remove the duck from my bathub". 6) Extreme woke. Thus a character putting on a dress is just as likely to be male as female, and apparently half the French population are gay. How about reality not a political fantasy please? 7) Useability issues. Switch from the app to a browser to check a word and after. a short while Duolingo loses your progress in the current lesson, so you have to restart it. 8) I learn very slowly with Duolongo as they introduce words and grammar slowly. I have to learn lots of words outside of Duolingo to make progress. 9) There are no grammar explanations in the Duolingo iOS app which drives me nuts. I am using Busuu for German from zero knowledge. It is much better. It feels more professional. Duolingo feels amateurish due to the poor English, weird phrases and errors in the French. However, Busuu is not enough on its own. I use Anki too, and for French I use podcasts.