Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra vs. Nokia 808 PureView - Camera comparison
2024 ж. 14 Мам.
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Finally, a smartphone with a larger camera sensor than in the Nokia 808. It just still isn't enough. Just another super-expensive phone with a mediocre camera. And a lot of marketing hype. Timestamps:
0:00:00 Specs
0:00:28 Daylight
0:01:43 Lowlight
0:02:58 HDR
0:04:00 Night mode
0:04:43 Flash ON
0:05:15 2x zoom
0:06:15 5x zoom
0:07:15 Full-resolution || Daylight
0:08:01 Full-resolution || Lowlight
0:08:48 Points
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Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra still can't share the tray with the 808. Especially taking max megapixels and flash. Congratulations 808 on winning again.
I would gladly buy a much thicker phone, to have a top quality camera. It's a trade I would do with no regret. And the sensor and software used by Nokia 808 are old...
@@delpinsky sensor and software used by Nokia 808 are old.....but quality :))
@@thedonandquietflows5982 I know well, I still have at home a great Lumia 950 XL, which is still one of the best cameraphone on the market. I'm waiting for the day Android will come fully working on that phone... 😁
Nah it doesn't win mate lol
Which Nokia has a cheap price with high specifications...? Nonsense Nokia, expensive prices and even then there are still many shortcomings. Hahahahaha...
Had Nokia back in 2012 and got my best shots with it. Nokia 808 had something that none of the modern smartphone cameras, with cool specs on paper, have: detailed, NATURAL looking images, without over sharpening, over contrasting, over saturation, and aggressive noise reduction that makes everything look like a cheap plastic.
Finally, a competitor that keeps pace with Nokia after so many years. but nokia is better real life photos
Well, if you use PRO mode on Xiaomi phones. Photos are more natural if you like good old 808 style without modern HDR. :)
@Fifty Dinar Definitively GCAM is also way to go. But bit more finicky in my opinion.
You should check out WillitbeatNokia?'s video of the 2-year older Xiaomi Mi Note 10, it has a fantastic camera: kzhead.info/sun/frtuppdsepWXhp8/bejne.html
Pueckkler yes mi note 10 is best phone with stock camera. even mi note 10 stock camera is better than gcam.
Nokia Pureview 808 is way ahead of its time. Best camera phone ever made at that time era. Salute to Nokia.
hi can you please do a comparison between all the lumias
Thanks for showing the full resolution photos from the Mi 11 Ultra! think you are one of the first to do so.
That 808 📷 sensor from Toshiba still great and surpassed many this day expensive smartphone
808's pics looks so realistic.
hi can you please do a comparison between all the lumias
I actually own 4 808's . Just for photography and 3d video. And I must admit that even with my 2021 android phone I cannot beat the 808. The lens size, xenon flash and rich sound are till this day unbeaten. This phone is a legend! Also forget the newest Nokia's with more mega pixels, all crap!!!
Ikr. That is why I still don't buy in to the Quad Bayer hype. Also, modern smartphone camera has too much AI interruption.
Can I get Nokia 808 in 2021?? I really need it
Do you use the tripod?
Finally the closes camera to nokia
Ne das war das iPhone 11 pro xd
Have you tried comparing with Pixel phones?
Nokia 808 pureview is the doctor strange of smartphone camera world,it never gets old and it never fails to impress no matter how many contenders showed up,it got the magic very few have.I hope Nokia brings a updated version of 808 Pureview with front side illumination,OIS,HDR and image stacking with cinematic video like features,i don't think anyone will be able to compete with it for another few decades 😂😌. Meanwhile Xiaomi,"Nokia 808,now i see why they call you daddy" 😭. Also Nokia, Okay son don't cry,come back next year with better colours and realistic processing,I'll be waiting.😊
wow full res 808 on daylight has 3d feel
Red is a color very difficult for cameras as it is easy to clip and turn into a softer tone like vermillion or even orange. Is amazing to see how the reds in the Nokia photos are deeper, true red, not by virtue of artificial saturation but a quality sensor and lens.
how about nokia 9 pureview vs nokia 808 pureview?
Nokia 808 resolution is the best anyways does it can run KZhead?
In full resolution the mi ii ultra was luckily a lot less processed. Didn't expect that
@Christina 19 y.o - check my vidéó I meant that the mi ii in full resolution was less processed compared to itself in pixel binning mode
Which country bro
Wouldn't have called it that far for the 808. It did take some lively photos with nice, crisp contrast, but you're losing so much detail in the shadows and highlights that you are getting with a more modern phones like the Mi 11 Ultra. You can get the look by compressing the image from the Ultra in an editing tool, but it will take much more than that to bring back in the blown out skies on some of those pictures. Still an awesome performance for such an old unit, but scoring from the bench here, I didn't have it leading in this race.
That shadows and highlights loss is why the Nokia has more realistic image processing. Xiaomi's dynamic range does work wonders in lowlight and HDR, but definitely not for daylight. There's almost no contrast and too much highlights from the daylight photos.
@@farishanafiah8461 Yes, it can appear that way, but that's data you can work with in post that would otherwise be lost. If you want the same clipped highlights, you simply stick the Xiaomi in Pro Mode, and it'll give you similar levels of contrast, but still with a greater dynamic range. (I do the same with my Huawei) You can quibble about the colors, and I'll give the 808 that... I use a Huawei Mate 40 Pro to shoot stills for the website and I've shot back-ups with a Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro, and Xiaomi's color and saturation are indeed lacking... but the level of detail you can get out of that sensor is absolutely incredible... And with the brand putting it in affordable smartphones like the 10T Pro and the Redmi Note 10 Pro, with GCam mods now being optimized for them, a lot of people are going to have some incredible hardware to go shooting with over the next few years for not very much money.
Can’t believe the nokia is 9yrs old. It almost beat a 2021 flagship phone LMAO❤️🔥
2:48 this.. this is a work of art, I can't really explain why this photo makes me feel so good, it's like an anime scene щ(T꒳Tщ)
The Xiaomi has OIS and much more advanced dynamic range algorithm, so no surprise for the Xiaomi to win that scene.
@@farishanafiah8461 yes but the overwhelming feeling of nostalgia the the nokia photo provokes is astonishing, the difference between them was like an anime flash back to the past (ಥ‿ಥ)b
Super bro
That is utterly disappointing!! :/ After nearly 9 years, the Mi 11 Ultra cannot beat Nokia 808 completely in spite of having a 1/1.12" size sensor and all kinds of other wizardry? I hope Adobe (Mark Levoy from Google, the machine learning expert for photo processing, joined Adobe) makes a camera app for a few dollars, which hopefully has the ULTIMATE state of the art camera algorithms, and then we won't ever have to deal with poor utilization of camera hardware like this. Such a waste of pure potential! I know I'm being a bit dramatic, but I expected so so much more from the Mi 11 Ultra in every aspect. And when is that AMAZING camera update coming to FIX EVERYTHING? 12.5.4? 12.5.6? 12.5.10? The Mi Note 10 had a lot better colors. So why is this a downgrade from that? The same xiaomi company and product line?
What MIUI version does this ultra run?
12.5
12.5.3.?12.5.4.? It's important because real camera updates come with ver 12.5 4.
we need new nokia 808 with android
Excelente Cámara Nokia 808
Where can I start with this comparison? Firstly, I got to say that I am dead impressed with Xiaomi's HDR ON algorithm. It's about on par, or probably better, than the HDR ON algorithm in the ASUS Zenfone 8. But for Night Mode though, the ASUS is still my favourite. ASUS still managed to keep the detail sharp whereas there is some detail loss from the Xiaomi. But still, a good effort nevertheless. While I do really like Xiaomi's HDR ON photos a lot, the same couldn't be said with the Auto HDR daylight photos. There's too much dynamic range with almost no contrast in it and the colour is not that realistic. It's the same story when viewing the full res photos. So for Auto HDR daylight, it's a clear win for the Nokia. But for Auto HDR lowlight though, it's hard to pick which one did the best. Both phones give a neck-and-neck battle with the Nokia showing more realism while the Xiaomi has better noise control and shows sharper detail. For zoom, 5x zoom photos is a simple win for the Xiaomi. But that said, I'm really not that happy with the Xiaomi's 2x zoom performance. There is so much detail softness present in the photos. Even the Nokia can still give crisp detail despite the noise. This really does show that doing digital zooming under Quad Bayer pixel binning has never been any effective. TL;DR Xiaomi wins for HDR ON, 5x zoom, and Night Mode. Nokia wins for daylight colour and detail realism, 2x zoom, and Xenon flash. Both phones perform equally well in normal lowlight conditions albeit in downsized or full resolution mode.
Now waiting for another camera comparison between the Mi 11 Ultra and the Lumia 1020 alongside the Lumia 950 XL.
How about the new nokia camera? Nokia 9 and 8.3? Any thoughts about them?
@@cue4070 For Nokia 9, its RAW photo can even challenge the likes of the Lumia 1020 and the Lumia 950/950 XL. But for JPG quality, the 9 is definitely not one the to go for. As for the 8.3, you do have Cinema Mode with H-Log support. Think of its as RAW format for videos. This channel once made a comparison between the 8.3 and the Sony Xperia 1 ii. For photo quality, it's alright but it doesn't win me.
@@farishanafiah8461 thanks a lot for this.
Half way through and again as usual. Nokia 808 producing truer to life images. More natural refined detail, colors, and white balance. Even in cases of more noise the noise simply left a more realistic looking image.
Daylight and 2x zoom is still a Nokia's win to me. For lowlight, I'd say it's a tie between the two.
If the mi ii ultra was optimized the same way the 808 was we might see an advantage. But with everything being about heavy noise reduction, over sharpening, with boosted contrast and colors... it always let's down even larger sensors
Exactly. That is why I'm still yet to see any true replacement for the Nokia/Microsoft PureView camera. Quad Bayer pixel binning is one thing, oversharpening and noise reduction is another matter.
@@farishanafiah8461 And nobody ever does reviews using some raw photo with light processing. Or the 808 on a tripod with iso 50. Or with image bracketing to combine images for hdr. I understand none of those are you ideal every day thing or point and shoot. But it would be nice to do just a few of those for comparison
@@jackskellington9570 I agree, if they truly want to see what these phone can do photography wise, raw photo is the way to go
@@syedkahar4679 eggs crackly
I've noticed the trend for modern phones to be overly blue and vibrant for absolutely no reason. Conversley, some are crushingly dull and overly warm. I think brands are too focused with computational photography opposed to raw, powerful image capture (I.e. night mode vs a decent xenon flash). Let's face it, LED flash sucks verus Xenon flash in speed and the accuracy without overly coloring the scene. This is embarrassing for any brand competing in the space. Add enhanced native zoom (I.e. periscope zoom), HDR, a WRGB sensor and night mode then Nokia would be 1st place as the leader in mobile phone camera performance. Such a shame a huge innovator is out of the game.
My Pureview 808 serves as camera only now alongside my iPhone
Waiting For Lumia 950XL
Bro there is night mode in 808, u didn't used that bro , and ya what is Love about 808 is ...... Natural looking picture without any over sharpening 👍🏼 that's really great, now a days mostly all smartphone cameras doing over sharpening 🤷🏻♂️ which I'm not fan of
Since when there is a Night Mode in 808? There isn't one. Don't make up lies.
@@farishanafiah8461 I didn’t lie bro , if you have Nokia 808 then open camera > select “scenes” > then select “night” or “ Night portrait” option 😏
@@arvi_00 😁👏👏👏👍👍👍
Oh my gosh! I've had a Nokia 808 for a couple of years and I didn't know about the night mode! It really exists)))
@@dilirix9640 yes it does ❤️ do you have any idea where to get battery for 808?
Tell me you didn't edit 808's pic 🤯
The 808 doesn't have a built-in photo editor iirc. Also, it doesn't even have RAW support.
You can edit the photo from 808, thru other smartphones or laptop
This shows the superiority of RGBG sensor compared to RRGGBBGG quadpixel sensor..
Don't forget the Nokia's oversampling method as well. The 2x zoom photo comparison really shows the limitation of lossless zooming from pixel binned Quad Bayer sensors.
808 👍
if only symbian would go opensource... I still be using 808...
808 has 2.4 Aperture. Sharper but not as bright as the 1.95 Aperture from the Mi11u.
Yeah, that is true. The Xiaomi's much larger aperture alongside the latest gen OIS really does help a lot in lowlight conditions.
I need Nokia 808 and Nokia N8 Anybody please send me I will give mobile prices
these reviews are garbage lol , lacks many aspects that should exist within a camera review 😂
Nokia n 808 vs vivo x 60 pro Both optics Carl Zeiss
hardware vs software rendering. search it on KZhead.
If the 808 would have had android i would have bought it and would probably be bored of all other smartphones before until now in the age of 1 Inch Sensors. (even though the nokia can´t keep up exposing everything right)
Make a Xiaomi 12s Ultra vs Nokia 808 PureView. Will a 10 year old phone camera of an extinct company win once again?
Ночью 808 будет проигрывать. Дне́м, если отключить ND фильтр, 808 будет детальнее и объе́мнее, но там где нужен будет широкий динамический диапазон 808 будет его не хватать из-за отсутствия HDR
Show photos in 100% Full-resolution crop and we will see the real winner!
The real winner is Nokia. Because there will be a lot of processed "worms" in the full-res on Xiaomi. The Nokia image will be clean. I am still using Nokia for my "Garhatrion" project and I have also tried many other smartphones. So I had plenty of opportunities to compare quality.
Nokia Awesome
Nokia808 Best 👌👌💪💪
Still nokia is the King 👑
No hahahhahha
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@@lukas6485 YESSSSS
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Don't compare 1 dekad phone with newest phone actually If Nokia come out with Pureview phone 2021 I think Xiaomi far left behind u know
Nokia 😥
Nokia still beat the ultras
Day shots from mi 11 ultra is a oversharp mess compared with pure detail from 808.i have two 808,and Huawei p20pro. Day pictures are much better from 808,than any phone, but night time pictures from p20pro are way better than 808.Zoom on p20pro also is better than 808.From all comparisons only pictures from Xiaomi mi note 10 pro are very close to 808 pureview quality 🤔🤔🤔
It is not always an "over-sharpened mess", this is especially true during the day but nighttime is is clearly better than the 808. I would pick the Xiaomi b/c more versatile. Also, there is far less noise, but again, over-sharpening in daytime kills it. Nevertheless, the hardware is very recent and very advanced (OIS, etc), and very expensive, and the 808 is from 2012 so this comparison, is still, indeed doesn't make the Mi 11 Ultra as good at is should be.
@@pcpll as i can see, same shots in day is much better, much natural, much cleaner from 808 compared with mi 11 ultra, way better, but for night shots you right, mi 11 ultra is much better than 808🤔👍
Looks like a wasted potential of that Samsung's ISOCELL GN2 sensor... Good thing I didn't buy it, the camera in it isn't worth paying that much more (at least now, maybe after some updates it'll get better).
At this point, I wonder what would happen if we have a native RGB version of the ISOCELL GN2 sensor coupled with Nokia's oversampling method. I'm pretty sure 2x zoom and 3x zoom photos would be great, if not excellent.
@Fifty Dinar Because everyone is now going for Quad/Nona Bayer pixel binning. No one wants to do a high megapixel native RGB sensor with oversampling technique anymore. To be brutally honest, I still don't find the demosaicing algorithm from any Quad/Nona Bayer sensors any effective to this day.
The Mi 11 Ultra can take non-AI, less-processed JPEG shots when you use Pro-mode, not to mention its capability to shoot RAW DNG. Mi11 Ultra is certainly more versatile and far more capable than the Nokia 808 (I have a Nokia 808 and I can say, even Google Pixel 1's GCAM DNG matches the detail of that of Nokia, with far better HDR processing)
Nokia is father all mobiles.
Nokia نوكيا
Ja! Jetzt gegen das L950 bitte!
Warum? Hatte nen mittelmäßigen Sensor und die Software ist mittlerweile auch viel weiter.
@@ZamhoidnLA weil das L950 ist unter viele Bedingungen besser als das 808. Es ist nicht nur wegen des Sensors
Nokia is winner
+- equally)).
Nokia Win
808 don't have ultra wide lens. So it's 5 - 0 points for MI 11 Ultra. Also video recording is 5-0 for MI 11 ultra. MI 11 ultra wins hands down if you don't cherry pick categories but consider overall package instead. Not even comparing Snapdragon S4 to 888. 808 it's basically dummy compact camera, definitively not a smartphone in today's standards. It was a good phone back then, I owned one as well. But it cannot really compete with today's phones camera, if you compare whole package, without cherry picking areas where 808 is strong. Back then HDR video was just a dream! Also 8K or 4K60 was scifi. :) On MI 11 Ultra you can have all of than on all cameras and much more. These comparisons are cool to watch but kind of pointless. :) Symbian is dead, let it rest in peace!
@Fifty Dinar Oh sorry, my 1020 had S4. :D Had that one as well for few years. But it was long time ago! :)
i see you hate 808 because 808 wins and wins , i understand you fanboy xiaomi but look today every cameraphone like painting and oversharpened detail, to me hdr and unreal nigth mode note matter, 808 jpg like dslr it true camera
@@alexshadagishvili7314 I owned 808 for 3 years, 1020 for 5. I love them. But as much as I love them, I can at least admit they belong to museum today. :) Most of the time you can easily get around "ugly" JPEG processing by using PRO mode on any phone. You loose HDR, but you get more natural JPEG processing which is closer to compact camera or 808/1020. Xiaomi phones can also remember last used camera mode, so it will always start camera in PRO mode, if that is what you want. :) Dont forget, one can also set sharpening on 808 to max and say that photos look ugly and unrealistic. You shouldn't use any camera on default settings. Honestly who uses DSLR on default settings in full AUTO mode? You always set best mode/settings for your subject, use case, style, etc... If you don't, you don't deserve to take good photos with any camera and you should buy Apple iPhone 12 PRO or Google Pixel or some other point and shoot.
@@lukasdvorok6456 some DSLRs have magnificent auto/Jpeg mode, especially those dedicated to sports because most sports photographers - if not all, takes pictures in quick sequence and don't have time to manually process multiple RAW pictures (although, batch processing of RAW files would be an alternative, it would be still very, very, very time and resource consuming). Also, Nokia 808 didn't have "Pro mode" neither RAW output, so it is not an excuse for the over-processed pictures of some phones.
@@pcpll It sounds that for you Xperia 1 III would be great fit. :)
Smartphones from China are much more sophisticated, more powerful, better quality, cheaper and more choices. That's the real king, not expensive European or American smartphones with low specs. There will never be a smartphone from America or Europe that makes it cheap but has high specifications, just a dream. Hahahahahahahahaha.....
Nobody wins 808 jpg
What a shame
Thank you very much for this video. Xiaomi still the best this year, oh dear huawei lost the crown. Even with samsung s21 ultra or iphone12 pro max. First i am surprise looks the photos of nokia but then i realise xiaomi get the more realistic and thats better.
Oh dear ini don't understand what is '808', its nokia???? They have poor processor, no good at night photos, also nowadays people love 'beautification' in their photos, i just buy vivo x70 pro and its great
Please provide a link to download original photos from both devices. Or else it's just a hogwash.
Other much more popular channels doesn't even bother to do that, and yet you want to call this channel a hogwash? What a hypocrite.
GSMArena just recently posted an article comparing these two phone camera: www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_vs_xiaomi_mi_11_ultra_camera_comparison-news-50047.php So for those people who say this comparison is fake, that's your problem.
Don't compare 1 dekad phone with newest phone actually If Nokia come out with Pureview phone 2021 I think Xiaomi far left behind u know
cruppy jpeg engine ! bypass that shit , shoot raw and learn to edit in one minute , then every phone does the job .
But then again, very few people shoot in RAW. Only prosumers and professionals do that.
@@farishanafiah8461 +
@@farishanafiah8461 its very easy , take the raw files in photoshop express and there in one minute you can make better files from every jpeg .
just edit every single photo in ur gallery bro
When using the Xiaomi's raw photos, the Xiaomi would beat the 808 without problems. And even in auto mode, the low light performance is so much better than the 808, not to mention the over all better Picture taking experience on the Xiaomi. Some people really need to take off their nostalgia glasses. Even my midrange Xiaomi Mi Note 10 lite would beat the 808's old timer sensor, it is mighty impressive for its time, but it is ridiculous to believe that some people think its better. Also the dynamic range sucks on the 808
You are living a delusional life. You have never used good old smartphone cameras. My lumia 1020 captures more details in most scene in 5mp compared to my iphone11. Only problem is dynamic range which can be moslty fixed if you shoot in Raw mode. Galaxy s7,s8,s9,s10,iphone11 and many other non flagship smartphones that I have, nothing can beat lumia 1020. Truth hurts but there is absolute no improvement when it comes to image quality from galaxy s7 to s10. That why I stopped buying smartphones.
@@avinashrai11141 sir, I have used Lumia 1020 and the Nokia N8 aswell. I am a photographer by hobby, I know these things well. I have compared a midrange xiaomi mi note 10 lite with the Lumia 1020, and when comparing raw photos the Xiaomi beats the Nokia. Think about it, the xiaomi has the larger sensor, better optics, better software, what do you think objectively makes Lumia the better camera when shooting in raw other than magic perhaps?.
@@masononemine1702 In my experience lumia 1020 captures way better photos compared to mi11.
@@avinashrai11141 Any proof?
@@masononemine1702 Well, I dont have youtube channel.
I really commend nokia phones over their great camera but I doubt these pictures for being real I hope it is not edited over computer. If not I will really do believe. Thanks for sharing anyway.
The 808 fcking sucks lmao
Lol, it still can give modern smartphone cameras a real fight with that true-to-life realism.
This is fake comparison
fake
Nonsense bro. I had a 808 Pure view. And using a an xiaomi so you are lying to yourself bro.
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@@-eduarth_ab6693 I won't lie bro. The 808 is good. But it's outdated compared to what these new phones are capable of. I've taken low light shots with both, the gap difference between the two is insane!
@@247cscont_nt only low light? For its price is mediocre haha
@@perrito.kamikaze overall my friend. Remember, performance also helps the camera. Low light, bright, it doesn't matter, my friend, I use both phones and use normal and high quality settings. Nokia is very outdated.
@@247cscont_nt Doesn't it just make comparisons with Nokia? It also compares current flagships. Of course he needs to make some more videos.
Fake video
If you really say this is fake, you won't see a Community post about these two phones. 🙄