Fallout TV Show: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
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The verdict is in for this RadReview on the new Fallout TV show, and it seems to have something for everyone. See if you agree with my takes on the show!
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Timestamps:
Intro- 00:00
The Good- 02:03
The Bad- 10:50
The Ugly- 15:28
Short Thoughts- 27:12
Outro- 27:54
Please all I want is a door opening to a wall that has “fuck you” spray painted on it, it would be so funny
Omg that would be the funniest scene of the show. Having Lucy be all hey I found the way all cheery and when the door opens have her just absolutely disappointed. Meanwhile Coop says some off handed comment like that was unnecessarily rude of someone. Or something to that effect.
Right before a huge raider ambush. It would go crazy
So the only thing you want from season 2 is a single laugh at fanservice? Do you own funkpops by any chance?
@@brunoactis1104your anencephaly is showing
I still think that is the best joke from the games XD It's just perfect.
10:20 This moment where The Ghoul kills Roger, it is actually super merciful and good. Cooper knew Roger was gone, and was going to become Feral. That's no life. He wanted him to have a good wholesome memory and a semblance of lucidity before he went out.
Exactly how I saw it, died with a smile on his face, more than most Wastelanders can hope for. Was a nice mercy, while also teaching Lucy what has to be done when a Feral is too far gone
Yeah it felt like one of those moments that rly humanize the ghoul. If he was only hungry he would’ve just killed Roger and sliced him up, but no, he waits until Roger is distracted. His last thoughts of his mom’s apple pie was really touching
And proceeds to take his stuff afterwards like every Fallout player. "Maybe God have mercy on your so- HOLY SHIT 16 CAPS!"
Reminded me of the ending in the book of mice and men
@@obsidianv3 Think of the RadBunnies, Roger
On the point of the "anti-feral" drug for the ghouls, I feel like it could be a placebo. There could be some pre-war drug that gives the sensation to ghouls that they feel better, but there are several examples of ghouls from pre-war times that did keep their sanity for the 200+ years, and had no indication they took such a substance.
I could see this being true. However, Roger outright states they have been taking this for a loooooong time. “That is a lot of phials.” Curious to see how they explain it, and if it actually has been in use for, possibly, centuries, how they justify it never being mentioned or shown.
There's plenty of medications where once you start, you're never supposed to stop, such as many heart medications. It would be perfectly on brand for Fallout that someone post-war created an anti-feral drug that does in fact stop feralization, but withdrawals from the drug actually accelerate the descent into feral status, making the user completely dependent on the product forever. Big Pharma, Big Pharma never changes.
It’s a retcon. Ghouls haven’t shown any indication of needing this drug before because they haven’t needed it before. Not saying it like it’s a good or bad thing or anything. But it’s certainly a retcon.
Has it been confirmed at all thats what the drug does? I'd be curious if it's some other type of Chem that he's addicted too. Ghouls have been known to be addicted to chems
@@AesirUnlimited Or it could be used by different ghouls depending on how they were ghoulified. This drug could be used by ones who are still irradiated and always pose of risk of ferality.
One little thing I liked was how the Hollywood sign lit up at the end and you see it’s sponsored by Nuka Cola totally fits the fallout universe
i feel like the moment where maximus flies off like a cartoon character is almost like a wild wasteland moment, its so dumb and over the top
So… who have Wild Wasteland? Cooper or Maximus?
@@justnoob8141 Gotta be Coop imo
@@justnoob8141definitely thaddeus my man was out here regrowing limbs
@@justnoob8141 Us, clearly. Either that or we were allowed to collectively share in on Coop's drug-fueled lunacy.
@@justnoob8141 It's Cooper... Maximus has the Idiot Savant
21:09 The issue with this is that Mr. House claims the bacteria will inevitability end his life even if he was slightly exposed. Also, since the House ending is reliant on the NCR being stable enough to provide caps, if the NCR fell, perhaps Vegas fell aswell. Along with the Tunnelers moving to the Mojave.
He also said cats were extinct. Point is, people can be wrong. I do not think it's a reach to assume that Mr. House was in a delirious panic after 200 years of what was essentially isolation and having his whole wold crashing down. I think he was just afraid. I do not think it'd be a retcon or anything to assume he didn't die and was just locked out of his network
@@Meowmeow0506 Honestly cats not being extinct is the only retcon im glad fallout 4 did because i like cats
@@Meowmeow0506 Cats didn't exist in the Fallout Universe any capacity until Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 (two games released after Fallout: New Vegas) and is thus a retcon. I like the existence of cats in the Fallout Universe so I'm glad they added them, however at the time he said it, he was 100% correct. Not only that, but cats only appear on the East Coast, so as an immobile individual who only woke up from a coma relatively recently, you can give him some leeway. Also, cats aren't directly relevant to his immediate survival so House simply stating something one off as a side comment and him saying something that only he would know about are two completely different things. Just be honest, it's completely foolish to think he's incorrect in this situation. He could have survived for hours, week, months, but 15 years is an inane prospect, especially with the chaos and destruction surrounding Vegas.
Just throwing it out there, what if House had already downloaded a copy of his consciousness to a computer (seems within the scope of Fallout tech) and just played dead till the Courier left. House has enough ego to have contingencies to make sure he never truly died, he fundamentally believes he's the only hope for humanity.
@@Pali729 Eh maybe but why wouldn't he have already and also, does he simply play dead throughout the Yes Man ending too?
Imagine Hank gets to the 38 and it's just Yes Man left behind by the Courier. Yes Man and Robert have a dynamic of Yesman using House as a toy lol
Imagine if Hank was the courier
I have a feeling we will have a scene much like described in the video where House is alive on life support but not connected to the machines. I can imagine the scene now "JESUS FUCK HANK IVE BEEN LOCKED IN HERE FOR YEARS YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BORED IVE BEEN" then he just snaps back to being all calm and normal.
My theory about the bombs is that Vault Tec wanted to drop the bombs, but china sent them 20 hours earlier, which is why Howard wasn't in vault, why Mr House's calculations were off by 20 hours. The Yangtze Captain says he launched the bombs in boston, so China definitely struck, and according to the Enclave and the Switchboard, China launched first
And wouldn't that be a convenient hand-wave for the writers?
@@ThisismyKZheadAccount-oz7qi I mean, it'd make sense. If some cowboy actor could spy on that meeting, then that goes without saying that China could and probably did have some form of spying done on what is frankly one of the biggest closed door meetings in the entirety of America. So they likely had foreknowledge that Vault-Tec was about to drop a nuke and went, 'Well, might as well strike first'. The only thing unbelievable about it all is the fact that Coop managed to do that in the first place.
When the boston bomb hit the war had already started tho, remember, before the fallout 4 mc got to the vault (the moment where the bomb hit boston) there was already other detonations detected in the us
@@ThisismyKZheadAccount-oz7qi Not a handwave. There was a persistent risk in the cold war of one side suspecting a first-strike attempt and launching a pre-emptive first strike of their own, and submarines using MRBMs could be used as a first strike. We don't know that Vault Tec actually did launch first, only that they planned to either do it or provoke it. Such a plan leaking could very well have provoked the PRC to launch first. Hell, Vault Tec could have executed their plan to create a nuclear war by leaking their plan to create a nuclear war and letting politics do the rest. You're jumping to conclusions.
I have a feeling that in Season 2 it will show that Vault-Tec didn't want to truly drop the bombs, dropping the bombs hurts their bottom line. The fear of the bombs is their bread and butter. Maybe when all of the vaults were deemed ready? Yeah, sure - because then it's the next step of all of their experiments. But not all of the vaults were ready on 10/23/77. They could only get them ready with a continued river of money and keeping people terrified of the nukes were the lynch pin. I think VT 'dropping a bomb' would be perhaps to manipulate some minor country to test a nuke to show they were now part of the nuclear stage, or perhaps stage an accident in a non-US test facility. Something that would breed fear, which was their primary product.
I think Chet is going to have a redemption arc in Vault 32.
I love that brave little manlet.
@@Lobsterwithinternet He’s our guy
Maybe he'll be the one to rescue Norm somehow
@@Lobsterwithinternet Am I missing something? Isn’t Chet like 6ft 3?
@@josephpeters7076 That's the joke.
Regarding the reveal of New Vegas my folks (both unfamiliar with the game) thought the final shot showed Seattle. Which was really funny to me.
I saw a lot of that to.
The Pacific ocean has dried out entirely or something?
@@kikosawa i mean, could be considering there is so much desert now
@@Ricardo_Rick no
It's good that they gave 1 INT builds representation with Maximus.
Some of his lines straight up sounded like 1 INT speech options.
He also has 1 charisma. Lucy straight up asked him if he wanted to fuck and he fumbled it
@@sonicwave779 "You wanna make my cock explode now?"
1 INT, 1 Speech, 10 endurance, 10 Luck Interesting build for sure
I think the secret man in the window during the Vault Tech conference was G Man. Prepare for unforseen consequences.
🤔
But his eyes weren't glowing.
You mean the guy from skibidi toilet ?
@@ManEditz777in the flesh
Nah it was easy pete pulling the strings behind everything
Cooper Howard is a really cool character. It feels like he’s a mix of John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart. I also like how he’s the origin of the Vault Tech mascot 😁👍🏼. In my opinion, the best parts of the show are the pre-war flashbacks. Cooper discovering Vault Techs true intentions is a legendary scene. Awesome video man!
I just felt they happened to soon and thse shuld have been S2 things. I wanted more wasteland in my season 1 of fallout.
Absolutely I loved Walton gogons in most everything he's in but he was perfect in this
The main female actors was so good I had no idea she wasn't American. Her American accent is on point and her behavior is so perfectly the 1950's style the vault dwellers would have.
Radking isn't American either
Is Radking in the show?
@@jacobrjager I wish
@@afungai1649 LOL! Case closed then right? 😉
My biggest issue with the show was the handling of the NCR. I don't inherently have a problem with them being reduced in power, but the way it is handled feels unnecessarily abrupt and vague for a group that has been built up for so long. While I'm aware Todd said that it's unlikely this is the last we'll see of the NCR, I don't think the show should have necessitated such a statement from him in the first place. As far as I noticed Maldaver's group (who don't even feel like they needed to be the NCR) is referred to as the NCR point blank, not as a splinter group or a smaller detachment, their base is labeled as the NCR headquarters, and no other formal presence of the NCR is shown or really alluded to at all. I'm hopeful they'll reintroduce the NCR as a significant faction once again in due time, however their handling in the first season is disappointing for me nonetheless, especially when it seems they have no problem ever expanding the Brotherhood's power.
The story of 1/2 and New Vegas is a perfect trilogy showcasing the rise and fall of the NCR. Even by New Vegas the NCR was on the ropes. We saw them start in 1, rise to power in 2, and saw their decline in New Vegas. I think that’s a good story that is just fine as is. No need to keep forcing the NCR into everything.
You realize that they built up the Brotherhood to be the big Villians of the tv show right?
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116no, They weren't declining. They were "declining" in the Mojave and In the Mojave alone Odd you say that given what Bethesda does with the brotherhood of steel. Getting the spotlight in every Bethesda game. They literally traveled across the United States twice now. Edit (three times mb, forgot 76)
@Plight_ Exactly. This is what annoys me so much about Bethesdas writing. NOOOO YOU MUST HAVE EVERY PART OF THE WORLD LIVE AS IF THE BOMBS DROPPED A FEW YEARS AGO HOW DARE YOU START TO REBUILD Saying that the NCR is on the Decline in New Vegas is like saying America was on the Decline during Vietnam because the troops there may have been having trouble there
@@Plight_just letting you know that I hate the way they nuked shady, however after Tandis death , there is no possible way to deny that the NCR would decline, especially with Kimball who probably died in Shady.
Imagine if radking was called freakyking
and instead of talking about fallout lore he ate deathclaw ass and sucked their toes
Groovy
And instead of making fallout lore videos he ate arse and sucked toes
radking if he sucked toes and ate ass instead of talk about Fallout lore
Seek Atom
One thing that bothers me is in the last episode where the Ghoul talks about the flaw in the power armor chestplate welds, but why didnt he know that and just kill maximus in their first encounter?
That's actually addressed in a throw away line. That armor has a different lining from normal.
The lining could be one explanation, or he was just toying with him since he could tell Maximus had no experience in it
His armor has special lining. It was referenced multiple times
@@CloudBlitzer The lining wouldn't fix a major flaw, if that was the case then they would have definitely had it be standard issue
Tempered lining + the ammo. Cooper was clearly loading specialised ammo into his revolver before the fight with the knights. It's likely he didn't have any of the special AP when he fought maximus because he was expecting raiders at best, so he was packing just those HE-like rounds. Whereas at the observatory he knew he'd be running into the brotherhood so packed the appropriate tools. It would track with the lore because the NCR canonically shredded the brotherhood with high power ballistic weapons.
The problem with the destruction of shady sands is that the NCR is basically a country made up of several cities, towns, and states. Along with 700,000 citizen. Just nuking the capital wouldn’t have ended the NCR. Another thing is I’m afraid that they will turn the New Vegas storyline in season 2 into a brotherhood of steel vs enclave conflict, because I can see Todd Howard doing that for the TV show, because no one outside the video game know who the enclave is. I think the first season is great except for the lore.
But even in New Vegas, the soldiers biggest complaints were how thinly stretched they were for manpower, supplies/resources, you name it. It seemed like the NCR was wounded then. Everybody is like, "It's too big to fail". Look at Rome, look at the US right now. Failure happens, and it is usually complicated and multifaceted.
One thing i hope they clear up or at least mention in the 2nd session is how the master did not break in the 3 vaults in la
Finally someone else thinking about the first game when comparing the show
Possibly couldn’t find it? He wasn’t able to find 13 until the Vault Dwellers existence gave it away.
It’s really easy to assume he missed them, couldn’t get in them, or couldn’t get to them amongst many other possible scenarios as to why he couldn’t get to them.
They wont because its not important
@@YazzPott vault 13 was hidden in a cave and far to the north of the masters base of operations and with a mountain range between it and the mariposa military base. It makes sense that it would be hard to find. The masters base is a vault inside Los Angeles. I simply don’t believe that their where three more vaults in LA that the Unity somehow never noticed. Three vaults filled with exactly what he was looking for. Also their was already a vault In LA in the first game (it doesn’t have a number) completely unrelated to this trio of connected vaults.
I've somewhat softened from my initial reaction to the series. But I guess my overall feelings depend on how the NCR is addressed in season 2.
This is exactly my feelings as well. Any problem I have has the chance to be fully okay if season 2 is done correctly, only time will tell
Its reactions like this and lead to garbage shows like this where woke idiots take good IPs, cram their politics in, and then sheep like you just accept it
Totally reasonable. Im hoping we see a Helios 1 type battle, the full might of both the NCR and Brotherhood going at it..... while Legion does its thing.
They got to Shady Sands by way of...fast travel.
The wrist boosters aren’t necessarily a retcon. Could just be a variant replacing the more cumbersome jetpack. This would still allow them to re-add it if they do need a super-heavy boi to fly into battle with a mini gun.
The faceplate thing: As a practical matter, having a removable/openable faceplate on a suit of armour makes perfect sense and has real world historical precedence. In the later medieval period as suits of armour started to be made out of more rigid material (what most people think of when they think of a knight ... plates of metal head to toe) many/most helmets were constructed so that parts of the face protection could be temporarily removed by the wearer so that they could get a better view of things, or have a quick drink/food, get a breath of fresh air, or issue orders/have a conversation, when not directly involved in a fight. Sure, the power armour allows all of those things while fully encased, but as humans we all feel less comfortable and more constricted when our faces are fully covered. Think about all the cry babies that couldn't stand the thought of wearing a cloth mask for short periods of time during the Covid pandemic and would have full blown temper tantrums any time they were asked to do so. So while I get that traditionally Fallout power armour suits didn't have opening faceplates, it is both a harmless change and makes sense from an in universe persepective and a TV production perspective (You sometimes need to show the actor emoting while interacting with another actor, which would be very difficult if you couldn't just convieniently flip open the visor). I've been with Fallout since 1997. On the whole I thought the show was pretty good. There was the odd bit that didn't fit previously established lore, but I didn't much care. The look, feel and tone was very Fallout, to the point that it almost felt like watching a playthrough at times. It wasn't perfect, but it was more than good enough, and I hope season 2 keeps it up. Good video, by the way. :)
Glory to atom. We're is tato lore
Fr. Are Tatos not a post war mutation? Why are the vault 33 dwellers farming post-war irradiated food species
@@wesleybutler1868 this is like Jet being pre war
Pretty sure the wastland guide has it, don't remember what page off the top of my head
Thats like asking for pheasant roast lore, you need to chill
@@wesleybutler1868 well they could have gotten the tatos from outside the vault
Great review! Great and detailed thoughts on the show.
I’ve been waiting for this one
I’m glad it’s canon that Vault Tec did the Mouse Utopia experiment.
I'm also glad they made Vault-Tec a more powerful group than the Enclave. /s 🦞🙄
@@Lobsterwithinternet I mean shit they worked for the government and outright went over them I mean it’s possible they started the war
idk i really like the idea that vault-tec even mamaged to outplay the shadow government, it makes them so much more sinister as opposed to just another tool used by the enclave
"YOU SHALL BE LEAVING NOW GOOSY, WITH THIS 2 WEEKs OF SUPPLIES "😂
Thesedays RadKing is the only fan channel I like to listen for fair takes so this has been a long while coming
Don't forget what Ulysses said about the Tunnelers, "They'll start emerging throughout the Mojave in time, might be years. Probably less. They breed fast, hunt in groups, more than enough to bring down the strongest in the Mojave. Once they draw blood... Seen them tear apart deathclaws... Deathclaw might get some, but the rest will swarm it, tear it apart, like Denver hounds".
Yeah and theres a deathclaw skull in the mojave we see
That theory is weak and can be blown off quickly.
People keep saying the tunnelers couldve destroyed the strip, but the tunnelers are adverse to light. I don't see the writers wanting to fight off tunnelers during the whole of next season. Everyone is already upset that they destroyed shady sands now if they destroyed every settlement in new Vegas too? That would be asking for hell
Light and loud noise. So the Strip would be quite literally the best place to survive the tunnelers.
Honestly. I’m a bit upset that The Cloud didn’t find its way to Vegas ala Fallout Dust mod. That was always a threat on the horizon regardless of who won the Mojave.
people are too hard for Dust. A lot of the writing in it is honestly goofy af. It's a worst possible scenario post ending, its not the best thing to make good film or writing from
Honestly I just interpreted that as "They're gonna sink New Vegas" because I'm an idiot
@@bringurownvibe I just think that a lot of New Vegas dlc had left these threats that would eventually reach the Mojave. I think it would be cool to see The Cloud had hit the Mojave followed by the tunnelers resulting in regions collapse. Then at least a Nuke in the region would make sense within existing lore.
My biggest power armor nitpick is the fact that you cannot exit the suit without a power core. No manual eject method while inside the suit? Absolutely terrible design. Especially in the show as we even see Max inside while the power is out his visor still says backup power or whatever. Feels like they just added it to let the plot happen and I really hate lazy writing like that.
This is pre-war American technology, the same kind of people that made power armor also designed hazmat suits that oxidize to the deadly chemical they were specifically built to combat
So you agree New Vegas exists? ;) @ijneb1248
@@dangela3039 who doesnt?
what if there is but Maximus hasn't read the manual
When you finish NV with yes man he literally says he’s going to shut down to incorporate code he found in House’s mainframe into his computational matrix. I get the feeling we’ll see a spilt personality Yes Man with House still existing in YM’s code fighting for control
The devs have said hes just upgrading and not trying to be assertive or janky or whatever
That wouldn't make any sense. House was just connected to his network, not actually part of it. If anything other than the House ending ends up being what they go for, then he's dead, and there is absolutely nothing of him left there. And, as the other person said, the devs have confirmed that Yes Man really was just upgrading, nothing more.
I have to say, I agree completely with you in this video. About jet nozzles on power armour: they have it in Fallout 4, and I don't mean the jetpack. There is an upgrade for power armour legs that enhances the AoE when landing after leaping. I don't remember the name of the upgrade, but it suggests that the legs contain some kind of braking thrusters, which would help explain how power armour completely negates fall damage in the game. I personally think that it would have made more sense in the show to replace the full jetpack with the same kind of jets mounted at the feet, for exactly the reason you mentioned. Also, Chet is a perfect character. He has the classical movie hero look, clean, muscular and conventionally handsome, but he turns out to be a coward nearly to the point of uselessness. This also makes him the perfect contrast to Norm.
As someone who also watched with a Non Fallout fan as well it was interesting to see what peaked my interest more than hers. She was into all of it and learning about the lore and world (She has since started a run on F3) But me who has played all but the OG games I was mostly interested in the Goul/Coopers storyline and definitely Vault 31-33 mystery. Something I don't understand is why have some random newcomer be the guy who blew up shady sands? We have a in game reason for it to be nuked with Lonesome Road.
Because the newcomer is part of the story of the show? Its like saying in NV "Who is the newcomer Ceaser guy and why he is such a threat to the NCR came out of nowhere"
For me the ugly of this show is how they basically ignored fallout 1s locations by having the vaults in LA
Eh to be fair it’s not far fetched the Master and his army could have missed them or couldn’t get in or get to them to begin with. Lots of possibilities there
You mean like fallout 1 misplclaces bakersfield/vault 12 on the map?
I dont see a way around it while also making people happy with the West Coast thing. Fallout 2 covers the breadth of California, there's not really a place to put it. Vault 31-33 is a special case for Vault-Tech, so it's entirely plausible it was kept off any maps or materials that would normally lead people to the location of vaults.
@@Pali729A better idea would to have just written the show in a way that doesn’t conflict with a 20+ year old established franchise. We shouldn’t have to justify things like these or have conversations about potential lore breaking changes, the people in charge of a multi million dollar project should take care not to mess with lore, whether Godd Howard approved it or not
@@tree7677 there was never any making everyone happy. If they didn't put it on the West Coast, there'd be even more whining and moaning. It's not changing the lore to say the Master didn't get EVERY vault in California, and as the show clearly demonstrates, those vaults largely stayed closed and completely isolated, so why would anyone in the first 2 games be talking about them?
Jonathan Nolan (The Producer of the show) said specifically that he lost a significant chunk of his life to Fallout 3, so even though the show picked the more modern fallout aesthetic (which I do think is more cohesive), it's clear from what they showed in-show and from Nolan's words that they took big inspiration from the older games as well. And setting it on the west coast in order to also appeal to those classic fallout fans was a great way to go about it if I'm honest.
That final episode with Lucy’s father in power armor, I just couldn’t not see the Five Nights at Freddy’s movie Climax.
Yes, I thought the same thing
Spoilers! 😂
Love this. Been waiting for this video and as always u didn't disappoint 🍻
Great video I really liked your take and insights on the future of New Vegas
Have a good day rad king
Man, the Fallout series has the chance to do the funniest fucking thing imaginable, and make Todd Howard the real big bad behind the entirety of Fallout.
Great video! Really enjoyed your thoughts and think you have one of the most reasonable takes I’ve seen.
I was waiting for a TV breakdown from you, great work man
Best thing about it by far was the music from the games. It never gets old listening to the Ink Spots and Ella Fitzgerald who is one of the greatest singers of all time.
Also made me realize how much we need some Cash on the radios.
Yes Ella is too cold
i.... couldnt stand the music... way overused... some would be good but it was my only real grip
I do miss the NV tracks though, with the cowboy feel.
The original score was fantastic too! I love how much it takes notes from the Fallout 1/2 OSTs, parts of the Ghoul's theme takes heavy inspiration from the track that plays in Necropolis and there is some influences from Metallic Monks in the Brotherhood Theme.
Theres also the possibility that the Tunnelers destroyed Vegas. Ulysses said they would do so eventually. EDIT: Keep in mind folks. The Strip gets all of its power from Hoover Dam. If the Tunelers attack the Mojave, they could very well destroy Hoover Dam, cutting off power from Strip. Even if House canonicly wins the war, once Hoover Dam is destroyed, he doesnt have enough power in his generators to maintain the strip. The strip falls into into darkness, and Tunelers swoop in and kill everything, including the heavily armed Securitrons. They can burrow super quickly, have poisonous claws, and can tear through power armor and a deathclaw in seconds. Tuneler are more OP lore wise than people realize. Qoute from Ulysses to further clarify: "They'll start emerging throughout the Mojave in time, might be years. Probably less. They breed fast, hunt in groups, more than enough to bring down the strongest in the Mojave. Once they draw blood... Seen them tear apart deathclaws... Deathclaw might get some, but the rest will swarm it, tear it apart, like Denver hounds."
I would hope that's the reason, but I don't trust the writers to know what Lonesome Road was let alone use any NV DLC story beats.
Then again, Ulysses likes to talk a lot.
Ulysses was just running his mouth he clearly spent too much time in the divide to be anywhere near a stable mind
@@akuokami1677you have very poor media literacy if you think that about Ulysses. The guy is smart and wise in many ways, the only thing he's unreasonable abt is his grudge against the courier but even with that he can be talked down from nuking the NCR. He knows exactly what he's talking about 90% of the time
Either way, New Vegas is dead. And they will destroy what is left of it's lore. And I'll be there to laugh at all the shills when it happens.
Great video love it and Also love the serie
Before watching the your vid I'ma say that I love the show and it's reignited my love for the series
The prop department killed it
Yea literally, the props were ass. The power armor looked like some kids amateur cosplay and they tried to make the voice sound like a 40k space marine 😂😂😂
@@eeebee6166 the armor looked great. Straight out of fallout 4. Could you have made a better suit? And the voice thing is a little off but I like it. It's perhaps a little too deep for my taste. But literally everything was pretty much a 1 to 1 recreation of things seen in the games.
@@jordonturner9559 The armor looked like it was made out of plastic and the action in the armor looked even worse lol. "Could you have made a better suit" Yea if I had Amazon's resources I could. But I didn't make this show so it's not my problem. So by "1 to 1 recreation" are you talking about the power armor doing voice changes to sound like a WH 40k space marine? The arm jets that made them fly around like they're on a Saturday morning cartoon? The "ghoul medicine" that looked like mountain dew piss and magically keeps them from going feral? Or was the the woman with the mustache that the writers wrote into the show solely to have a tranny to use "they" pronouns? Yea, so much 1 to 1. Shady Sands being in the wrong place, power armor face plates lifting up, the BOS having basically an American flag with their own logo even though they literally seceded from the US government upon discovering the FEV experiments, vaults being literally connected together, the power armor helmets wobbling all over like a bobblehead. That's just off the top of my head. Clearly you didn't watch the show or play the games, did you Amazon bot? 🤣
@@jordonturner9559 Well I've replied twice and magically my comments aren't appearing. Basically i pointed out all the reasons you're wrong, so i'm not surprised. It's forbidden to complain about this show on youtube because they're inherently anti-factual lol
@@eeebee6166 sounds like lies and bs. If you can't explain your reasoning for the props being bad that's not KZheads fault.
Love the Vid, id love to see some theory videos about what's going on with the Brotherhood and the Enclave, as well id like to hear your take on the theory that the Brotherhood incorporated the remnants of the Legion following the death of Caesar.
Bet! I have some plans for upcoming videos where I will look at some of these things :)
RadKing’s gotta be my favorite fallout KZheadr, great vid man!
Hail The Radking for this great Video. at 27:44 you forgot to mention the Gulper int the Basement of V4
The forearm jets seem likely to be meant as stabilizing feature to help the back mounted ones, they’re just getting used in bits and pieces due to scarcity in the post war
I get that, but the face on the helmet opening up is what kills it for me
Thats true they could be stablisers, buuuuuut it launched him waaaay in the sky, more so than the back mounted ones have ever accomplished.
@@YazzPottwell, it could also double as slow fall
@@anonymousfigure4726 I mean considering a brotherhood elder got killed because he took his helmet off, a faceplate isn't exactly an unwise modification
@@anonymousfigure4726 I disagree, the face plate reminds me of knight, its the jet arms I hate.
Because of the hinged power armor helmet. I think this expansion is actually extremely logical. Not only from a cinematic point of view. If you just imagine this situation: A group of soldiers in full armor somewhere on a battlefield during a ceasefire. They have to eat something. Completely removing their helmets would be a huge risk if they were attacked at that moment. If they can only open part of their helmets, they would still be very well protected and could eat something quickly.
It's also someone of a nod to medieval knights. Brother hood of steel has knights soo..
Great video man. I feel like you got how wr really feel about the show after the honeymoon phase is over
The Vertibirds in the Vegas Shot may indicate an attempted invasion of new vegas by the NCR at some point, which would open up both the Legion and Mr.House endings to be cannon, with the invasion taking place some time after that.
My theory is it's the House/NCR ending that got cut from FNV. House becomes an NCR subject after the destruction of the securitron buker, and after the bombing of shady sands makes his gambit to break away again leading to all the destruction we see in the streets
If Joshua Graham shows up. I lost..
If they want a season 3 they'll do that season 2.
Auslander suche Joshua Graham?
there is an interview with Jonathan Nolan the Director of the series. in the interview he goes over how much he played fallout 3, and other very in depth aspects of gaming and the different ways it tells a story. so basically the lead actor as well as show runner have played at least 1 of the fallout games. also the Board says the fall of Shady Sands was 2077, not the bomb. the arrow pointing to the right kind of indicates the bomb happened AFTER 2077.
I’d get chills if season two started at the top of the lucky 38 and you see a screen kick on with House’s face 😊
Well, the problem with the date is that everyone is looking at the wrong blackboard. Yeah, in that flowchart, there is an arrow between 2277 and the bomb. On the main blackboard earlier, there's only three drawings, the last being the nuke, and above that the date is clearly 2277. So Todd retconned the show, practically.
I personally didn’t like the retcon of ghouls needing drugs in order to not go feral. My head cannon is that the drug dealers around those parts has made a placebo drug to trick ghouls into buying it. This would track with how ghouls are treated through out all the games. Another issue I had was that gulpers were sorta implied that they were made by vault 4, but they are somehow in far harbor all the way across the continent in fallout 4. Those were my only issues lore wise. Narrative wise I really disliked how everyone was connected/ already knew each other. The twist of all the overseers being prewar was cool, but it was kinda dumb how cooper personally knew the overseer. Like the amount of coincidences in this show took me out of the immersion at time.
Or that it’s just Radaway. That’s also a good one and it makes it more interesting.
I think the two gulpers aren't the same. Two people in two far away places just came up with the same name for two different creatures
@@tylerleach8796 That's what I thought it was.
I think the Gulpers are just a case of two abominations with the same name The Gulpers in Far Harbor look more like giant salamanders and they live in trees. The one in the show looked like a messed up Axolotol
Also annoying they called them “drugs” and not “chems” to begin with
Only thing i really hated was the kinda nonsense nuking of shady sands, it felt like one of those random things that people who have no idea how to write do in order to increase the stakes of the main story or something. Idk it just felt bad. Which is so weird because everything else was pretty well written.
Unless we find out Vault 31 has a bunch of nukes, how did Hank nuke a city if he'd been in a vault the whole time?
I liked it because it gave some environmental storytelling, like what the games are known for.
@@kyleellis1825 I wouldn't be surprised if 31 had at least a few tricks up its sleeve considering it's effectively Vault Tec HQ at this point.
@@Captain-Jinn I feel like the BoS would have tracked down the source of a nuclear launch in the last 15 years if it was Vault 31 though. It just feels like a lot of the action set pieces got the set up rushed into not making as much sense as they could have with a couple more episodes to space things out.
I been waiting, I been waiting 👏🙌Glory to you dude, bring it ON.
8:50 My mom has never played the game but we watched together n she basically immediately identified new Vegas. "Is that the strip?" He's in las Vegas?!??" Followed by "what the hell is that" (deathclaw)
Keep in mind the canonical ending to fallout 4 is that the brotherhood of steel or minutemen won because we see the prydwen in show if you zoom in on the shot
That's just another airship. Not the prydwen.
@@kyleellis1825 it says Prydwen on it in the show if you pause and zoom in I think
@@owenlaramore9622 That's weird because we already know they have multiple of them.
@@kyleellis1825 it is weird I feel like it wouldn't have been hard to change the name to caslewyn or whatever on the 3d model
@@kyleellis1825 Eh, that could have been an oversight, but I think the more telling thing is that the old guy tells them that it was an order that came directly from the "Elder from the Commonwealth". Now, that's obviously a bit of a stealthy reference to Arthur Maxson, but it's vague enough that his death isn't directly refuted. But still, that does seem to imply either the BoS or Minutemen endings are at least soft canon now.
I dont like the implication that ghouls need that drug to keep frok going feral. It implies there was some type of anti feral meds made before the bombs dropped. Otherwise, how are any ghouls that turned right after the bombs dropped still sane?
Or, you know…it’s Radaway? Why am I the only person who came to that conclusion?
@@tylerleach8796 You have no idea how glad I was that you also came to it. I felt like a sane man in a crazy world.
@tylerleach8796 we see the vault girl being given radaway. It's not the same stuff. Plus why would a ghoul need radaway? They love radiation.
@@puddingpop6058 because too much radiation on a ghoul can turn them feral? What do you think makes a ghoul feral in the first place?
@tylerleach8796 not true. We see sane glowing ones. Which have been exposed to alot of rads. If it is radaway that's stupid. But it's not because we see the girl being given radaway on a IV drip and the medicine the ghouls need is a inhalant.
A backpack jetpack would be just as hard to use while firing a weapon. You still need away to control it. And even if you could just use your thoughts to direct the jetpack it would still be difficult to focus on both. The jetpacks on the hand would also allow you to better adjust your centre of gravity
It seems everyone has forgotten that at the end of Lonesome Road, depending on the ending you choose, Ron Perlman says that nukes fly into "The heart of the NCR". Maybe, just maybe, the Courier lost at the end of Lonesome Road or even if they deactivated the nukes its not too much of a stretch that Hank could have somehow reactivated at least one since he obviously knew the lay of the land
i still think they did Sinclair the dirtiest, dude had little to do with big mountain in the game but was their representative for some reason, and they made him old and fat even though sinclair was probably in his 40's at the latest and was likely of average build.
I imagine they changed Sinclair's appearance to help differentiate him from Mr.house.
THIS!!! That tbh is my biggest issue with the show. Vault Tec droppin bombs first, cool thats been long theorized Shady Sands, aight I can read a flow chart But having Sinclair rep Big MT instead of Mobius / Klein (or whatever names they were going by pre-war) was no cap disappointing.
He was an incel in the Sierra Madre dlc, so I think the look fits.
@@mitch8695 you mean scientists that have no place in a board room full of CEOs, yeah makes sense. I swear people are inventing the weirdest reasons to hate on the show.
It seemed Sinclair had a very close and longstanding business relationship with the Big MT. Its not entirely unlikely that the scientists at Big MT would ask this high profile businessman to represent their interests at this business meeting, that kind of thing happens in real life.
Got it within a MINUTE of posting lol, blessed
The set design was insane, It felt like the show was pulled straight out of the games, even down to the small details like the yellow construction lights on the ground
Ncr victory (most chosen ending) but the tunnelers attack would be the most lore friendly continuation of the show im also very disappointed in the reason why shady sands was nuked as opposed to to it actually being nuked
I cant believe they made the fallout dust mod Canon Seriously from 19:00 to 21:37 is basically just describing the backstory from that mod, hell the post credits vegas looks like it came out from dust They made fallout dust canon
I’m not one of the ones who cares all that much about the face plate, but the issue I see is there was an old brotherhood elder who died because he took his helmet off to look around and a poison arrow grazed his neck and killed him. That sounds like solid evidence you could never face plate. Also it does look a little goofy.
The armors get modified every game with no explanation. There doesn't need to be a lore discrepancy for it, as the show happens 9 years after Fallout 4. The faceplate and hand jets can just be upgrades.
The dumbest thing by far is the scene where the Ghoul starts one shotting Brotherhood Knights because of an ancient defect in the CENTER MASS of the armor. That's not a lore issue, its a common sense issue.
@@richter6699 It was actually below the center mass on the lining bellow the chest plate. Maximus points directly at it on Titus's armor when he commented he had that area upgraded hence why the Ghoul couldn't affect his armor the same way. Well that and the Ghoul didn't have armor piercing rounds at the time, during his first encounter with Maximus (which by the way is lore accurate as armor piercing rounds do go through power armor in the games like it wasn't even there).
I think the face plate thing is meant to be a nod towards medieval knight who often had helmets with plates that could lift up to show their actual face. And since the person wearing the power was a "knight" it might be a little nod to that. The one big issue I had a problem with was that the armor apparently has no way to release the user if they're fusion core is removed so they are Essentially doomed. This seems like a major Design flaw.
Not gonna lie. Just cause Tim Cain says it's good, doesnt validate that they missed a lot of "Fallout" beats. It's similar in the vain of 4 and 76 the soft reboot of the series. This is not a bad thing as it caters to a broader audience but it'd be disenginous to say "original creator like so this good" I haven't heard Brian Fargo sign off on it and I don't think anyone is waiting to hear his take. Because it's superseeded him at this point just like how it has Tim Cain.
This is making me feel old, purely by the fact that the guitar riff periodically playing - most easily heard at 26:59 is the riff used for, typically, tension moments or at commercial cuts for the Made For TV 1994 The Stand
I want the GOOD independent ending to be canon where you selected to deal with all the factions and families properly. There is no excuse that a massive army of upgraded securitrons to have ANY issue holding off some wastelanders with 9mm pistols and sticks.
if you first met Chief Hanlon he talk about lake mead and dry up water source in the west. he said "We neglected the dams or pumped all the water out a long time ago. Owens, Isabella, the San Luis. Drained the aquifers of everything they had" "Just a lot of mud and dust now. It's a different feeling, watching the sun come up over the water. Takes some getting used to." "Back west, you don't see too many of these. Lakes, I mean. Natural or man-made. Any kind, really." is the fall of Shady Sands is because dry up water source leading up to famine and they move their former capital to boneyard ??
It’s also because of the Brahman Barons gaining more and more political power in the NCR. Basically rich businessmen took power in the republic.
I think the show also mentioned a famine in 2077 so that could be the case
Boneyard isn't existing either in the show. It's all ruins. And Filly.
I like the way you did it,oh the irradiated one !!!!😊
if you have a way to square away vault 33 existing in such close proximity to the masters cathedral, this might be salvageable
How can a yao guai kill a man inside a power armor and die from a 10mm shot to the head?
Critical sneak
Bethesda logic and terrible writing
Tbf the guy didnt do himselves any favors running
@@trentr9762how is a basic nitpick terrible writing lmao?
Crits, man. You seen what a critical headshot can do?
maximus being an idiot savant is a big W in my book
I really enjoyed his Story, he seemed well meaning. But extremely incompetent. His actor was also so great, he absolutely brought the character to life.
Is this how people are excusing his terrible character now? "He has the idiot savant perk"?
Seemed like a selfish rat not worth being an Initiate in the first place. But now I guess squires are adult slaves and outranks aspirants and initiates.
It's kinda annoying that he gets rewarded for everything at the end in my opinion
@@Plight_ It's not a reward... He told his friend he wanted to leave and his friend gives him the spotlight so he can't escape the brotherhood ever.
Im still uncertain who dropped the bomb first. While the show tried to allude to it bei g Vault-tec's doing, my theory is that they were planning to do it, but someone or something (im looking at you Zetans) beat them to it before they were ready. Far as i know, there are at least two vaults that were still unfinished and their missions never the light of day, vault 88 and vsult 114. So id say the mystery is very much unanswered.
I too thought it was weird the fact that Janey was not with her mother as the bombs dropped, but I have a theory about it: it may have something to do with Barb's miscalculation relating custody. It's clear at the start of the show that the two of them are divorced by october 2077, which means that by then Cooper is probably not anymore on Vault-tec's "guest list" with his daughter and (ex)wife. Of course Barb knows when the bombs will drop, so she has calculated how to take her daughter to the vault whithout causing suspicions. So either she was going to pick her up from her ex husband's house but did not manage to find them (as they were a the kid's birthday), or maybe (if that day was Cooper's turn with Janey) she did not expect Cooper to pick her up so soon. In any case I think they will clarify in the second season through the flashbacks.
The T-60s flip up faceplate may more so be a reference to tanks rather than any kind of helmets. Mostly on historical tanks, the driver's hatch could be partially opened to improve visibility and ventilation in non combat situations. This being present on power armour feels perfectly in line with Fallout's aesthetic! It also makes a lot of sense, i ask you, without the benefit of having your armour pieces be able to clip into eachother, or magically have the helmet disappear with the press of a button like in the games, how easy would it actually be to take that helmet off? Yeah it'd probably be a huge pain and you may need to get out of the suit or have someone else take it off if you want it removed. Having a flip up faceplate just makes perfect sense.
For a costume, yes. For a pressurized suit of armor, no. You got to keep in mind that ‘the more moving parts, the more points of failure there are’ which means that the faceplate (let's be honest, it's so we can easily see the actor’s faces) would be a bigger weak point than the chest piece ever was.
@@Lobsterwithinternet Litteral tanks, tanks, have these, its not an issue for a suit like this. It being sealed doesn't matter either. Tanks have hatches and any tank made after the 50s are air sealed for protection against chemical and nuclear attacks like a suit of power armour would be. Also this is a completely stupid argument that its a weak spot when there was already a panel line where the faceplate is, and the power armour designs have plenty of seemingly useless or precariously placed joins, like the t-45 helmet being split across the middle and bolted together.
I hope it was the Brotherhood or the Enclave who bombed Shady Sands, Enclave as a final fuck you, and the Brotherhood as a strategic strike. After all, when kid Maximus emerges from the fridge, he’s rescued almost immediately by a Knight. Why would the Knight have been there so close to the time the bombs fell, unless that little 50’s style fridge somehow had enough room for a kid and days, if not like a week, or supplies? He likely would have known when the strike was to happen. Lucy’s dad, being pre-war and heavily involved with vault tec (and thus the enclave or military) might have known where some bombs were, or the codes needed for them, and given it to either group
The bigger question is how did he survive all the radiation when he left the fridge? Or even everyone who lives there.
@@Lobsterwithinternetold school fridges used to lined with lead, and lead has a really good property of slowing or flat out stopping radiation from breaching into a space
it would be absolutely hilarious if the canonical ending for new vegas is that the courier died in his grave
The dream theory!
The bad: no deathclaw! AAAARGH
Titus was horribly done, there is no way that guy would ever get the rank of knight, let alone a squire.
Yeah I think he was a bit too pathetic, but it's not like the brotherhood is immune to corruption. But honestly it kinda makes sense if maxson is still running everything, that guy is a fucking idiot.
i feel like in the original games you see knights who are dicks. hell, even in fallout 4 there is Knight Rhys at the Cambridge Police station who only serves as a foil. Ig they made titus mean so we would be slightly less against maximus for siding against him
Yeah all brotherhood members are perfect ubermesch there couldnt be any cowards and fuck ups in their ranks, the brotherhood is just so perfect as the games have shows us
Nah, hes the average BoS knight
Or the fact that the ENTIRE show would not have happened because the geiger counter is ALWAYS on so they would have detected the radiation from the raiders instantly
It was really a mixed bag for me. It does what I was worried most about and doubles it: making West Coast Fallout match the East. I absolutely hate everything looking like it's been only 20 years since the war instead of 200+ years and the fact that the Enclave and Brotherhood are shoved into where they don't belong. Shady sands could be nuked, sure, but that doesnt excuse the complete lack of NCR control, citizens or military outside of the remnants we see at the end. It's like the writers and Bethesda are hellbent on never doing anything new without destroying what came before.
The NCR was already collapsing in New Vegas. I swear NCR fan boys are wild. Y’all just can’t accept that the first 2 games and Vegas told us a complete story of this society. You don’t see Legion fanboys crying that Caesars legion didn’t last more than 1 game.
In New Vegas you already know Shady Sands isn’t the capital. The politicians are all corrupt, and power lies in the hand of trade caravan companies. The NCR was already dead in New Vegas. Yet people like you seem to think that they’re a stable and powerful state…
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 NCR was in no way a collapsing society by the time of NV. They're a highly functional society with industry and trade. Their hold on the Mojave is unstable but that is due to mismanagement of their forces. It's not even their only military campaign as they have an ongoing expansion south into Baja which appears to be going well.
@@PalindroneV2 Except NV literally doesn't back that up. It's clear that none of y'all actually paid attention to literally ANYTHING any of the NCR characters in NV actually said.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 It's not a matter of wanting to have the NCR stay alive, it's the matter of it being realistically fallen. The NCR was going downhill for sure in NV, their government was increasingly corrupt and losing power to the brahmin barons along with them stretching their military too thin across too much land to handle. This wouldn't leave California and its surrounding areas as barren as Shady Sands though. The reason Legion fans aren't mad is because there's no need to be when California wasn't established as Legion home territory. I'm pretty certain they'd be mad if we saw Arizona only having a single handful of Legion left though.
In the first episode the father at the birthday party says he was able to get him to do a kids party was because of alimony, we have to assume then that his wife left him and he lost his job. So he had some sort of custody over the girl and so the mother couldn’t control where they were when the bombs fell even if she knew.
I think the changes to the power armour could be a cool addition as a variant. We've seen already that this was used by someone who's in a power armour that is used for flying around. So perhaps this is a variant of the BOS power armours like maybe it's their Jet trooper squad or stuff
The shady sands not being in the correct place could be like city management when you have a city you don’t want a bunch of population living on your prime farmland so the place where they geck where they probably grew the food for the city of Shady Sands
Hundreds of miles away? That doesnt make any sense. Plus, you know, the Boneyard is already there
Dude just accept that it’s wrong and is a blatant mistake. Shady sands is not in LA and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that.
Bruh in Vegas they talked about having vehicles and trains and all kinds of different stuff and you’re over here like hundreds of miles away. How do you think food gets to you? I’m pretty sure you don’t live on a farm.
@@gameheathens2480 shady sands being inside LA is a blatant retcon/mistake. Entire cities don’t just get relocated. Are you stupid? Or just refuse to believe the writers cheated with locations.
@@gameheathens2480 Firstly, there are farms all over the place where I live. Secondly, while vehicles were used, what exactly would be the point of relocating Shady Sands for them? If it’s “city planning” it’s hard to say its the same city when theres hundreds of miles of wasteland between them (in fact other NCR cities exists between the two locations). We know where they used the GECK, it wasnt in the Boneyard. Plus the sign in the show also says “The first capital of the NCR”. Both Fallout 1 and 2 have similar locations for Shady Sands, and it’s not in LA. Thats the equivalent if the US called Washington DC Philadelphia and pretended its been the same city the whole time. Growing produce locally is always a better option than sending unreliable salvaged vehicles over mountains. (Not to mention they were literally growing wheat/corn IN Shady Sands in the show. You’re reaching too hard to justify a mistake or a retcon.
The Radio DJ has been shown in Amazon PRime to be a Minuteman Radio tower
She was there as a child, so she had the location marker. They must’ve fast traveled 😂
14:50 That’s a good point, hadn’t even thought about it 😅
People cry about the changes to power armor, well this is the Brotherhood of Steel. For the past 200 years they have technology to modify existing armor, probably build their own armor based off the originals as well and adapt it to suit their needs. The face plate rising for example. It would be far safer to have that raise up to interact with someone, or to eat, then take the entire helm off and exposing your head for an easy head shot. This world is all about survival and modifying things to ensure your survival would be a priority.
Exposing your face is dangerous period. They'd have been better off designing feeding tubes. Beyond the weird face mechanism I want to know how ironman jets get a 4ton wearable tank off the ground
The face mask is purely an actor vanity thing. Just like when actors took off their masks during Covid when it was inappropriate. Doesn't help that the silly voice modulator (retcon) made everyone sound the same. Can't wait to hear Lucy the first time she climbs into a suit!
It makes sense honestly. If you're in a dangerous area and want to keep your guard up but need to do something like eat or drink it's best to not take off the whole helmet to do this. It's also a nod to medieval knights whose armor also had face plate that could be lifted up for pretty much the same purposes I described. Someone else also stated that we as people do tend to get a little claustrophobic when fully encased like that so having a way to get some fresh air without removing the helmet would be nice. I'm honestly surprised more people aren't fussing over maximus having no way to get himself out of the armor when the core was removed. Sounds like a major Design flaw.
I see a lot of people complaining about the power armor face plate thing but havent seen a peep about the fact that maximus was trapped in his armor after his fusion core was stolen and the ONLY way he could get out was a manual release from the outside? This sounds like a serious and fatal design flaw. I think there should be some way for an operator to get out of the armor from the inside in the event of a problem like that or some kind of malfunction.
Especially because that in itself is a massive retcon. It's very clearly stated that even the fusion core power armour can function without a core. Just to a much lesser extent.
@@TheTeremaster it would make sense that they would have some sort of manual hydraulics for the user to operate without power. If the core is out of juice or in the event of an emp.. it would make sense for the user to not only have a way to get out of the armor by themselves but also be able to move the armor a few feet either to hide it before bailing or maybe help isn't too far and you could just walk the suit over.
My head cannon: 2277 saw some sort of disaster destroy the original shady sands. But being the origin and symbolic centre of the ncr they relocated shady sands to where it is found in the show
Also vault tec is actually run by the tunnel snakes and Butch is actually the head of vault tec. He started the war at the age of 10 then froze himself until the events of fallout 3 👍🏻