Gang Enforcers Open Up On Their Violent Pasts | Crime Stories |
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In our new show, we bring together people from the crime world, get them to an old London pub and see what stories they can reveal.
In the latest episode, former gang enforcers Ray Hill and Chris Lambrianou reveal their most shocking crimes. The pair also share stories on working with some of Britain's most notorious gangsters, including the Kray twins and the methods the violence they would use to collect debts in the criminal underworld.
Thanks to Ray and Chris for taking part
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I think this format is even better than a normal interview, similar people bounce off each more naturally maybe
*similar people bounce off each other more naturally.
Definitely! They seem to try "out do" eachother and share memories but it certainly makes for good content
I Agree .. Compadres rather than Subordinates
It came off more natural. It was more of a converation than an inyerview
These are the most polite demons ever lmao nailed someone to the ground but also apologized for swearing
proper old school
Reminds me of the 'pirhana brothers' skit from Monty Python. Interviewer: I've been told Dinsdale Piranha nailed your head to the floor. Stig: No. Never. He was a smashing bloke. He used to buy his mother flowers and that. He was like a brother to me. Interviewer: But the police have film of Dinsdale actually nailing your head to the floor. Stig: (pause) Oh yeah, he did that.
Where I grew up there had been a guy who terrorised everyone, especially drug dealers. My uncle got out of jail and moved back in with my aunty. Week later he had bumped into the local lad on what had been a walkway in the seventh floor of a highrise block of flats. My uncle picked the lad up by the neck held him over the railings and told him this is my area, you sell anywhere else you want. If you sell here again then next time you go over. Moral of that story is, regardless of how much you think of yourself as Mr big there is always someone that makes you look small. The guy he had grabbed never got seen about in that capacity for years.
Chris is as man of god. Hardly a demon. Could have been lost in translation. I know people don't understand some of my midland uk sayings. Both decent people now. Leopards can't change their soots but humans change.
@@RJ-wx3fh you mean you haven't nailed anyone to the floor. Your slipping.
Both Ray and Chris are today pillars in the community. Chris after imprisonment went on to dedicate his life to helping troubled souls beat addictions etc at the Ley community and Ray carries his message today to deter people from that life. That is worthy of respect. It’s not where we start out that matters but where we finish.
I went through the programme at the ley at the end of the 90’s. I Remember Chris and the encouragement he gave me when I was a complete wreck of a human. Along with a lot of others of course.
AMEN
Chris was a gentleman thanks for your comment
Agree with that mate
Strange LB didnt mention this
The fact that Chris Lambrianou has outlived so many of the firm and gone on to dedicate his time to help others is testament to what an absolutely amazing man he is.
He was basically a tea boy in a firm of people who simply preyed on weaker people. He’s hardly Al Capone.
Go steady there would you buy his undies
@@spamme9021 He was doing his own thing he hardly met the Krays, he had plenty of money making schemes clubs car lots etc in Birmingham his brother Tony was on the Firm he got caught up in it on a night out in London basically.
This has got to be the best KZhead channel. Every single interview is brilliant.
Their round tables, minutes with, crime stories etc are some of the best and real content on the Internet in my opinion, these guys and girls have a knack at getting this level of video/interview. I don't like all the meme stuff they do, but the hard hitting stuff is simply unmatched by any other content creator.
Prash Th, you should watch Shaun Attwoods channel.
@@CCTV1984 thanks. I've just subscribed
Chris respect
Can this one be continued please. Absolutely fascinating!
Rays stories are something else kzhead.info/sun/pbGOprCEbqRmips/bejne.html
@@davidgavine7728 Thank you.
We need more of these! Such an interesting format😊
There's blokes like this with these tales in every bar in the UK lol
Ray and Chris proper geezers mate. It's great listening to them chat. Old school.
Never smashed your kneecaps without first asking your name and always shook your hand afterwards.
@@michaellavery4899 Yup. True gentlemen, eh.
Lol rays a gentlemen these days and m glad he’s got so many good stories to tell that he hasn’t even mentioned yet lol
These guys are the real deal
This is the most profound video I’ve ever seen on KZhead. What amazing men for changing the way they think. Can’t believe what I’ve watched. ❤
I love how Chris talks about the pain he felt from not seeing his daughter. I felt sorry for him, no one thinks about the pain a father feels being locked away from his kids, it's the mums most of time. Being locked up away from ur kids can help the parents change their life.
One of the best old firm interviews out there, totally honest , no fantasy fairytale just honest truth
Absolutely love to hear these guys living their lives again. What a great account they can tell us and what amazing things they have seen and experienced. Thanks for this Guys, brilliant!
I really like the way Chris tells a story, calm and without the graphics.
Absolutely love this style of interview, this one was fantastic as well.
That was surprisingly powerful. Good for you Chris on turning it around.
This is very powerful! Can garuntee these guys will hold a door open for u,legends
I love hearing and learning about people and their unique experiences! Thank you for sharing gents!
Nice interview Ray 👊look the part there 😉 nice one Chris ,that's the truth right there 🙏
These are powerful videos. Great work
I remember reading Chris’ book decades ago. Very glad to see him looking well. RIP to his brother Tony.
Thanks for this chilling informative piece guys respect 🙏
This is truely fascinating! I would love to have a pint with these two. I have genuine respect for these guys despite the past.
So sorry to hear what you went through thats terrible...👊💯💪👍🏻but brilliant chat between u and chris..thanks for sharing ..
chris is a true gent, i could listen to him all day.
Never missed 1 of rays vids his the absolute man u have to love Ray his like a big uncle
Years ago ray was nothing like what he is now he rob every drug dealer in west London and was a very dangerous person
That “nice one bruv, good boy” bought a tear to my eye
I'm just a random army vet from the US. These UK guys get down in an entirely different way especially the older guys wouldn't want to run into some these guys in a dark alley.
Jesus, Chris has absolutely milked this mcvitie story to death. And he's never sure on what tunnel they drove through one minute it's rotherhithe, next interview it's blackwell. Where next tower bridge? To say his yarn is flawed would be an understatement..
@@md4933 I’m with you fella, these guys live of fantasy stories that over the years get more elaborate. Won’t be long before they start talking about the time that had a beer with Jack the Ripper 😝
They are not young anymore and I know ray well yes he definitely dose get muddled up sometimes that he’s age same for Chris but what they are saying is the truth very one knows what happened in that case when the car run out of fuel so they let it over south it a fact in about 20 books
@Stanly Stud the embarrassing thing is that they actually think people look up to them for committing atrocities that undoubtedly had life changing effects on many lives. Sadly there are fools that do, the reality is that these days there are 12 year old kids that would end their lives for an iPhone.
@@md4933 What does it matter what fucking tunnel he drove though you melt!
All the very best to you both ❤ Enjoyed that !
Heartfelt response from Chris there about the bible and how it inspired him to see his jail time through. I understand how difficult it is to be away fro your family and especially your kids. Chris was 100% right when he said that's real pain, a helpless pain that grates on you constantly because it's in our instincts as men to want to protect our children and families.
Need another on with these guys. Great video!
Very interesting and Great Format for these types of interview.
Interesting interview. It is always inspiring to see people turn their lives around and try and give back to the community. Ray's introduction was important though and I think that it speaks to an element of criminality (especially organised) that isn't understood well by most people: trauma plays such a significant role in the paths that people take, whether to addiction or to the kind of violent criminality being discussed here. Listen to the pain in Chris' voice and imagine holding that inside of you, all of the time. This is a long post but hopefully worth it for those who are interested in OC. What the famous gangster movies and TV shows don't touch upon is this kind of trauma (The Sopranos did a little bit, but for the most part, it may only be hinted at and is not integral to the story at hand, even though it was an integral part of the make-up of these notorious real life gangsters). Sexual abuse in particular is something you will find in the backgrounds of many within organised crime, and sexual violence is often used within organised crime. It isn't spoken about really, possibly because it is so horrifying, but it goes on a lot more than people realise and isn't confined to the prison system, which is more of a cliche. One notorious gang in Birmingham was known to use gang rape as a form of violence towards people who owed money, and this gang controlled the drugs in that city and the wider region. It happens all over within organised crime as it is a highly effective form of violence which many people will fear more than getting stabbed or having a finger chopped off - one story about two guys "punishing" a man who owed them money, a young guy who was basically being mentored by these two was shocked when he saw it happen but was taught that this was basically business practise. The guy who suffered that took his own life shortly after. I remember hearing of it happening locally to me - one of the local gangsters and a second person did that to a person "to teach him a lesson" as I was told (and I suspect that the person who told me was the second person involved in that punishment. Just something about the way he said it, and he told me many more horrible things that he and others had done as part of that whole lifestyle - the creativity of these crooks when it comes to violence is crazy.). The point I am making I suppose is that there is something very wrong with how organised crime is glorified in our culture, with young kids looking up to the local gangsters in areas where there aren't many opportunities and where there is neglect, abuse and so on, even though so many of the prominent figureheads within organised crime are highly damaged, traumatised people who had awful childhoods. Ordinary people wouldn't last in organised crime: not only is there the constant paranoia, not knowing who to trust, expecting cuffs or a blade or bullet at any moment, knowing that you will have to be as violent as you possibly can in order to succeed and to keep this up but also to be able to withstand those levels of violence. A large percentage of the population have never even been punched in the face! Violence breeds violence - combine this with poverty and lack of opportunities in our broken economic system and you will always find people trying to earn a living in other ways, and the ones who "succeed" in that world are the people with the greatest capacity for violence. But beware that if you go into that lifestyle because you got a kick out of Peaky Blinders (haven't seen it myself), just keep in mind that you may well get yourself buggered (literally) if you don't pay up or if your OCG is in a war with another one and you find yourself having been kidnapped and tortured, or your family threatened, your house petrol bombed or shot at - the list goes on. One thing I noticed when I was younger was that you always knew some wannabe who was "related to the Krays", who Chris in this video worked for. Every town and city will have one of these guys. I've even heard it second-hand from others: 'did you know that X is related to the Kray twins?!'. I used to point out to them that the Krays ran nonce rings, and that Ronnie Kray in particular was known for being a violent homosexual rapist as well as pedophile. Usually Mr. Wannabe will stop claiming that his second cousin's brother-in-law was the third cousin of Charlie Kray senior's half-uncle. It is just a bit of a joke, but you get the point. In Manchester, people idolised the Noonan brothers - two of the three are dead and the remaining brother, Dominic I think it is, is currently serving time for historical sex offences against young boys. Go figure. It is a nasty, horrible world and no matter how much filmmakers and TV show producers try to claim that they are showing nuance and context etc., in the end, most of this stuff just ends up glorifying the whole lifestyle. If anybody got close to making a film about how it really all goes on, it'd be more like a horror film than anything else. If anyone has any recommendations for films or TV that show things honestly and don't try and glamorise it for the audience, please let me know. In terms of Hollywood gangster films, I'd say that The Departed comes closest to showing how it works, especially with how close organised crime is to law enforcement. Ironic given that this is a film by Scorcese, who is considered by many to be the best when it comes to this genre. Ironic also that it is a fiction and a loose adaptation, but Scorcese's flaw is that he relies too much on the source material: Goodfellas is a flashier telling of the notorious rat Henry Hill's version of events (Scorcese wouldn't even let Ray Liotta meet Hill before filming!). The Irishman relies on the ramblings of some old man who claims to have been everywhere, from giving weapons to David Berrie (played by Joe Pesci in JFK by Oliver Stone - a great movie) to actually shooting Jimmy Hoffa - that film is the Forrest Gump of the gangster movie genre. The Sopranos, as mentioned before, is probably the best example of the gangster genre being deconstructed, especially with regards to the therapy angle, which offers glimpses into Tony's trauma and helps us to try and understand how he became who he became. Funnily enough, the wannabe, keyboard gangster-types hate those parts of the show, and that's because they are too caught up in the fantasies of power, wealth and all that. An important aside here: just as in any industry, black market industries that are run by organised crime groups also feature high levels of inequality. The local big shot might be driving a nice car, but he's probably mid-level and can only hide so much of his cash, and unless he is friendly with some people in law enforcement (which the best gangsters always are), all it takes is for someone to snitch - possibly a rival gangster giving info to his own cop - and then his door is kicked in. The real guys at the top who actually make all of the money, you probably wouldn't know them if you passed them on the street - they have the real money and they favour keeping it. "Snitches get stitches" is a load of BS too - it is to keep the little guys in line, to throw fear into subordinates and rivals, but all successful organised crime groups will have close relationships with law enforcement, and they will happily inform on a shipment coming from a rival so that attention is diverted from their own, or they may even snitch on one of their own, having a few of their underlings go down and keep their mouths shut ("snitches get stitches", unless you're running the show). Then you have the runners who run the drugs/guns/whatever else around, who get paid peanuts when you place it up against the risk (even without risk, I knew a runner who was employed as he was a crackhead and the dealer used him to run the little baggies to all the other crackheads, paying him in drugs and a weekly wage that was probably around the same as the minimum wage, in a major city (tax free but still, not exactly a life of luxury, especially when you spend all of your money on crack). This is also why gangsters like to recruit children - you can pay them next to nothing, groom them into the falsehood that they are a part of something and are protected, let them have an "image" and they don't face the same legal consequences (although the system will likely f*ck them up if they end up in it, effectively training them to become proper gangsters when they are older, if they don't die first) and so wont be likely to grass (snitch for the yanks). Anyway, rant over. Point is: kids, being a gangster isn't flash - it is a facade and is policed by a monopoly of violence that most people wouldn't have the ability to withstand. Also, unless you are lucky, you will only end up either dead or in prison, with all of the pain and suffering you have been through, let alone that of which you put others through.
That was very well written and very interesting to read. Thank you for that. I'd like to hear your opinion on Top Boy. Is that closer to reality than those other shows perhaps?
@@Leadfoot_P71 Thanks, I'm glad that you appreciated it. I haven't seen Top Boy yet but have seen bits of it and some of what I saw seemed quite accurate. Only from clips and such but it seemed to capture some of what I saw when I lived in southeast and east London, in terms of how some of the black gangs operated (not exclusively black but in areas with high black populations etc.), but I don't have much to go by. It seemed to have been inspired by The Wire which is one of the best I've seen in terms of policing the drug trade, basically in how futile it is, and the creator had a series out recently based on true events about a corrupt task force in Baltimore (where The Wire is set). 'We Own This City' it was called and, whilst it relates to American policing which is different to that in Britain, it definitely showed how police officers can and do become corrupted, particularly in the drug trade. I might give Top Boy a try, even just for entertainment. I don't think we'll ever see anything too close to reality though, given that the truth of the matter would be too much for people to stomach IMO. I started a novel on gang culture and got about 30000 pages in but lost the thread a bit, but it came about after a funny instance: I was on a journalism course run by a paper I wrote for a few times and, on one session, an editor from another paper came to give a talk and also an exercise which was to come up with ideas for investigative pieces and we would vote on the best two and split into groups and plan the story. My idea was to investigate links between the big drug dealers and the property developers. The editor said that it was a great idea but I'd end up wearing concrete shoes and being thrown into the canal! It was voted on though and we looked at how we might go about it. I decided to write it as a novel instead but lost track of it and moved onto other projects. I may go back because it can be frustrating to see these worlds glorified. Anyway sorry to bang on, I can't really say when it comes to Top Boy but from what I saw, it seemed that they tried to keep it real as much as you can expect from a BBC drama. There was a good mini series by the BBC recently starring Martin Freeman, playing a copper in Liverpool, and it sets you up thinking that he's bent but it becomes more complicated. Worth a watch to see how some relationships between police and crooks come about. Sometimes its as simple as a family member or childhood friend. But again, they only really scratch the surface.
Good read this. People seem to skim past how vile Reggie kray was with young boys. The only thing that irked me about tom hardy was that he agreed to the movie you see a bit of how ref was but not enough. The krays are idolised by young that know nothing but the name. They were cowards and bullies plain and simple
Well written and interesting! As a Dane, one Danish movie from the 90s, called Pusher, comes to mind that I think portrays how quickly a criminal life can go from going well to extreme shit in a very short time. Mads Mikkelsen became famous for being in it. I also think it was the first movie done by director "Nicolas Winding Refn", that also made the movie "Drive". I'm an ordinary citizen so I wouldn't know how accurate it is, but it certainly doesn't glorify crime and shows how greed backfires and the loss of control, violence, F'd up relationships and paranoia that follows.
Everything you’ve said here is bang on (And an extremely great read that I hope people don’t just gloss over), people only wish to see the bright sides of these things through films, music or other media and it’s pretty much glorified, but then when they hear about real life events such as knife crime skyrocketing in the Uk they pin it on something trivial or bad parenting when nothing is ever really that simple, it is genuinely infuriating.
i love the way they speak to eachother, they have a really nice flow
This is probably one of the best interviews LB put out.
There's a better story told here between these two men than in any film I've watched about crime. It's a remarkable difference from the overdone and glamourised True Crime format. LADbible, you are doing this consistently. The truth is the truth. You guys find the people who tell it as it is. Respect to you and all of the people who come on. Lots of the people you interview have been served justice or injustice. You let people tell their whole story regardless (some editing too, but very thoughtful editing) . Keep up the good work and do not change the format. It really does help people gain a real insight into the lives of others. I hope Ray and Chris are doing well.
Absolutely
The UK has the most polite goons I have ever seen 😂😂😂😂. With that accent , even their death threats sound polite .
'Scar down his boat race' haha love that
Good old Cockney rhyming slang! 🤣
A wonderful conversation!
Wow....these were some serious OG's here...fascinating to hear them talk and I'd love to see more videos of them
The past is in the past but it shapes you for the person you are today. I was generally moved at the end of that video, and that takes alot.
Nice one mate rays a very likable character and he’s only telling the truth
I think, the guy he's talking to is called Chris
both Chris and Ray you can tell can still handle them selfs, but would be a good pint talker, one thing my vet friend told me, never anger older vets, they survived to be that age for a reason. my uncle Terry, sure he was 500 pounds but he also was a black belt in judo and over 50 years of training, pissed him off only twice, never have i flown over a chair so fast in my life lol and i deserved it, i think i was 11, and the other time i was 22, i was angry at my cousin his son bc he was being a richard, he was 13, as i grabbed garret, i feel uncle Terry's hand on my shoulder, size of a bear claw, at the time i was 220 pounds in good shape, i was tossed over the couch and he said you touch him to fight him again, i will fight you, let me deal with him. my aunt and mom saw it and said well did you learn. yes lol hes been gone 6 years now, dude was an awesome man, 74 he was.
Thanks for sharing this amazing family story, ur uncle seemed like a cool guy to be around in a party
@@oraah_2783 he actually was, he could tell a joke, he spoke japanse and would teach us, dude worked in the film industry as a agent for 30 years, he loved Judo and also would show us how to do it safely
You know remember the last thing a fighting man loses he’s his will and they are a lot more wiser sounds like a good man thanks for sharing that 👍🙏
Ive never met chris but i have ray, and i know ray can handle himself and im sure chris will be the same
Really enjoy these type of interviews
I started watching this thinking the other guy was a proper OG but Chris’s story moved me and he didn’t elaborate it he was genuine. Loads of respected bothered for what you went through all being not being late abiding but I could tell you were speaking the truth
Best one I've seen yet!
It takes a community to raise a child. How different this story would have been with a few more cuddles at the right age. Heart breaking.
I wish Bobby was there. That would be so interesting to see them together, exchanging life stories and experiences.
Very interesting video, it's a bit like top trumps of violence. Hope we have a part 2.
My word, this *"CONTENT"* is breathing life into the this channel with these heavy hitting interviews of the guys!
This channel is breathing life into this channel? What? 😂 make that make sense
@@DubC fixed it!
@@DubC I was half asleep, but yeah that was retarded for sure! Then I was in the middle of a sentence as I began to fade out again... I had to get rid of that too!🤣 It's usually autoerror from my phone, but this was all human! 🤔...😑
I find it rather _ironic_ that you think this video of two lifelong *murderers* and *torturers* humble-bragging "breathes *life* into this channel"
@@wholeshebang1 I actually thought that when I wrote it... It's a brutal play on words, but these really are their best videos. I like to get a little shock from the tales and then consider what it was that made them quit. I think Bobby is about the coolest customer they've had so far. You wouldn't suspect that he was ever a kingpin of any mafia organization.
Want Part 2 . Best one on lad. 💯
Excellent style of interviewing. 👏.
Thank you both for sharing..💟🔥☮️🇳🇿
Amazing interview.
Ray Hill has said some kind words about Ronnie Bender (Kray Firm) on his KZhead channal. Much respect 😎🙏
This was amazing content
Emotional, men who have been through hard fucking times, humbled to hear their story, wish them all the best in the future.
This was powerful and moving to watch 😢
To quote an old friend "I'd rather ask a question with a smile and a gun than a smile and an empty hand" Odd thing is he never needed the gun his reputation went before him.
Al Capone said "You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun"
So who’s won the competition? - What competition? The “I was the most violent enforcer” competition.
Fantastic honest insight between two top names.
It’s absolutely insane that we can sit and listen to these two having this discussion. Insane in a good way.
Couple of good bed time stories for a rainy day!
LEGENDS!! tip my hat to you both
Brutal and honest. It's interesting the sad pattern of cause and effect.
Cheers Ray and Chris. Very interesting chat.ta
10:35 did he really use the word “Tummy” 😂😂
Wow,powerful stuff,its the family that does the time. Two very different people
Farken just love the accents so much of these guys 😂😂 there is no other when it comes to talking about gangster stuff! Lolzz
Real man, feeling what lambrianou says
21:20 LOL, great interview.
Chris i don't know if you will ever see this. I want to thank you for helping me understand my destructive behaviour I've been terribly let down by the system to, im so angry all the time I'm trying to instigate violence as a release i suppose. Ironically im only hurting myself. Im going to be mindful of this. Im constantly introspective analysing my mind. My family doesn't think it's healthy i think the opposite. Things that are obvious to most are no longer to me having brain damage. I digress.
you can do it my guy i believe in you, you can change and be better to yourself and others dont give up
God bless you fam, have a blessed Christmas and stay strong ..
Have you tried any conselling ? I wish you well.
You are attacking your organs with anger which will leave you in a debilitated and sickly state one day (with you being physically unable to do anything about about it. The worst kind of prison you'd want to be in. Trapped in your own body). Go the other way my friend. Leave alcohol alone, and tame your wild demons as YOU are the master and not them. I pray you discover your self mastery and take possession of your true power and dominion. As for the violence, i encourage you to join a boxing gym so that you made feed your demons with exercise and structure. A heavy bag will leave you drained and filled with peace. Seek its time and attention daily. Good luck my fiery friend. 🙏🏾😌
Lay off the sniff
Nice Ray. I knew when u turned up in the bakers hat n boat trip a celebration was on. Good luck Uncle 👊🏼🙏
great interview but props to the interviewer again. true pro
Great interview from 2 wise men
Thank you for this fabulous duo both coming from differnt places though ending up in the same . Good to hear the Cockney accent plus pub look thought i was in the Prince of Wales pub owned by Teddy Haynes whom i worked for ...Jimmy Tibbett Legend in lifetime good lemon squeezer .Yhat was one of my play grounds yey
Love this!! A ray I wouldn’t mind that hat 😂😂😂
Ray hill is an absolute legend, he has helpex me past year while ive been going through some hard times, ive done some podcasts with him on his channel, fathers have rights too, big respect to ladsbible for putting ray on
this was fantastic 2 great blokes
wow quality! same thing all the time people quick to judge but its clear to see most of them have something in common, let down by the system and abused by the system. you create a man that feels no pain good luck taming him!
Amazing 👏🏼👏🏼
The loyalty and honor they still hold, you can see them radiating like this😂 so gangster?
Lol, Chris is not playing about. Love when he talks about taking out stokey police.
The contrast between being these guys coming off as blokes you would find at a pub and them having committed violence beyond what a common man can imagine is shocking
Great video didn't know Ray or Chris but I knew the Richardsons I was only about 5 years old and I was down the shrimp and winkle stall with my dad. They were standing there with their crombie coats and always slipped a few Bob in my hands. Later on in life I had my own scrapyard. I would love to meet Chris. He is a legend.
Eddie said Ray could not have a fight and was useless in and out of the ring.
Bang bang u suit these kinda of interviews / chats
Haha, these two are right diamond geezers. My family were all Londoners, dad was a boxer, sure he was involved in shady business but he died an old man last year. Some of the stories my mum has told me, I don't know how we all survived, life in 60's London was tough.
You're absolutely right.... good afternoon how are you doing over there hope you're having a wonderful day it's a lovely day that the lord has made
Hearing people like this provides an interesting perspective into the minds of people who couldn't give these things up for me as a kid. Always amazes me how the true gangsters are the best mannered
I think that would be *extremely rare,* if at all possible, from these 2 *low-brow, wretched men* who've *_willingly tortured & killed people._* I don't buy their phoney, high-brow schtick one bit. They appear to have no conscience for the reprehensible things they've done and the pain they've brought to so many (including family & friends of their victims) - and even *relish* in the retelling of their so-called "accomplishments."
‘I knew that violence prevails. It was something i could use. I had a power, a power that i could stand up for myself and i weren’t frightened’ ‘Good!’ Thats two hard old school blokes!
That was a brilliant podcast well done ray and Chris bless both men respect and love ❤️
I agree with you mate, blinding podcast
Brilliant is there a part 2
I really felt the pain then. For Chris. What he was saying about his daughter God bless Chris. All the best, Take care, my. Friend
When is part two please? 😄
Fascinating.
I'd usually watch YT videos on 2x speed… Impossible with these two 😅
Chris is inspirational. He's an icon of reform.
amazing video
Boss video mate respect YNWA brother
They both come across really well here.
This is gold. My fave movie genre is British gangsta