PETROL vs DIESEL.. 425HP 435D X DRIVE vs 480HP M4 vs 455HP 430D
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00:00 Introduction
01:40 Car specs and owners
04:21 Drivers expectations
07:40 Sound checks
08:11 Roll races
10:11 100-200kph times
10:45 Drag races
13:30 1/4 Mile & 0-60 times
14:39 Verdict
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Why is the M4 480bhp? Bootmod 3 will give 500whp on 93 octane on a stage 1. 480bhp is pathetic.
would be good to have a quick car spec breakdowns listed kinda like hoonigan drag races, makes it easier to digest n compare
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I just got my F33 435DX done by darkside development kzhead.info/sun/atB-lc-QbaCbi4k/bejne.html There most powerful car soo far 1000+Nm torque hoping to be the fastest F33 435d in uk and europe hope i can be on your channel with it show of a true diesel torque monster not bhp chasing car is a very high spec and fully modded wrapped chameleon tints ambient lights full love has gone into the build from fully stock to m4 gts replica in a year
Yo Jamie how is it lad how's your 335d xdrive I'm picking mine up this Friday its Ben with the 505 535d that car sold on now that use to do 0-60 3.7 and 100 to 200 7sec
"It's a win for the 4!" - some guy, in a 4 series only race
😂😂😂😂
that guy is so cocky lol
Bit of a prick really
Them lads at darkside are wizards with diesel engines!
Awesome work..
🤣👌🏾
Shame they don't do Ford engine
@@markstimpson9685 what ford engines worth tuning
@@eoghanhennessy443 the tdci is good engine or the cosworth lump is good
It’s nice to see Ryan smile for once 🤣
Did I? Haha
@@ryanp6138 just a little 😂… I’m bringing my G30 530d to you soon… I want that stage 3 hybrid turbo swap 😍😍
@@ryanp6138 a question for you Ryan. Is the 435d you brought the absolute best you’ve done or could you go further with the tuning and eventually beat the m4 everytime?
@@ryanp6138 Reyt then!
And we have another one!!! I love it when there's a mixed bag of results, shows that these are brilliantly lined up using great inference. Well done Jamie, you've done it again! I obviously vote m4 as that's what i drive as well.
It’s very refreshing to see the zf8 gearbox handling 1000nm of torque!!! That’s great👏
Loving the petrol vs diesel races especially when they are the same or similar bhp. Makes it interesting
Un diesel siempre por desarrollo final ganará a un gasolina en altas velocidades
@@ivanpm3633 other way around
@@DslStudiodafür schlägt der diesel aus dem stand immer den benziner
Nice to see some contrast here Jamie! Hope your keeping well! The Channel is smashing it! Let’s get some big power diesels on the screen!!? 📺
Got a qst remapped 4.0 v8 sq7 around 500bhp 1000nm torque.
Coming soon! Ima get mines to over 500 and 1000NM an see what Jamie’s sayin
Love a diesel power, No smoke no poke 💨💨💨
@Tracksuit Dave haze derr
I went from a 335d xdrive to an M4. Loved the 35 and great in all weather, best all-rounder I’ve ever had - but in the dry, the M4 wins hands down and has me smiling more often!
I’m in that same position atm, got a 335d xdrive mapped, just put it sport plus and it’s a damn beast
Does it win on the mpg as well?
As an ageing ordinary family guy who can't afford an m car, have been driving a 320d since 2016 and it's more than satisfactory both in terms of reliability and performance.
@@gersi8351 I get 1.89l/10km ≈ 12.4mpg in my M4 mixed driving. 0.99l/10km over a 650km journey all highway driving at 110-240kph but mostly 120kph.
I went from a 335xd F30 innovation pack to a e46 330i/6 again, just can't get over the F30 lack of steering feel...
Darkside Ryan does magic on diesels. M4 had a good tune as NVM Mabz one of best in the buisness. Shows how well these mappers do and how reliable the cars are ! Great Video Well Done !
Love the little colab, Ryan is the man when it comes to diesel!
The white 430D sounds like an AK47, damn man. 7:45
Given how close they actually were in performance I'd definitely go dirty smoker. The price of a M car plus the extra trips to the fuel station...makes a well sorted 30d or 35d a better deal. If money is no object then yeah M car
100% agree - keep those diesels lethal
Darkside aint cheap, The work on those diesels cost 7k, add that to the price of the 4 series you might aswell get an m4
@@ruz316 you can get around 380bhp on the 35d with just a stage 1 remap. doesn't cost much to get to that 425bhp figure either
@@mafiahvh exactly, removed the dpf, fit a bigger intercooler and they will happily hit 430hp, some have achieved over 450hp
M4 will cost around 3x the money to feed and maintain over time,they become absolute money pits once they hit 5-6 years old or around 70/80k miles,the parts are astronomical compared to non M parts,plus on today's roads having the instant monster torque from a tuned diesel is what you want,most roads and speed limits aren't as suited to high revving machines.
Great to see darkside again
Hey Jamie! Amazing content as always - keep it up! It would be nice if you also get a 100-200 leaderboard on the channel as this is where the power of a car really shows no matter if its rwd fwd or awd. Greetings from Bulgaria
The smile soon got wiped of m4 boys face 😂
How? Like for like mods there not even comparable.
How is easy, rewatch it 😂 they are all epic cars in their own way, but for the m4 you need it to be dry for the full potential.
@@lloyd.8272 it’s the price difference that matters.
@@lloyd.8272 like for like mods is not important in the real world but value for money is. They all probably cost about the same if not, the diesels might be a bit cheaper especially when you consider fuel economy.
@@lloyd.8272 yeah but engine for engine they are not comparable. The m4 is a twin turbo stage one petrol running 480bhp and the 30d is a single hybrid turbo running 455bhp which would cost a hell of a lot less than an m4 and it just finished behind the m4 … I’d take the 30d all day every day
Darkside are legends with dirty diesels 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love how your channel has progressed! 🙌👏
Love the work at darkside! Been following them for a while now
These shootouts are legend. Thank you Jamie 🙏🏾
Disappointed Ryan didn't open with "Reyt then!"
This is just an advertisement for Darkside now 😆 both their cars was 10/10. Good on the lad with the M4 tho.
Love the diesel stuff🔥
👊 come on the torque is too much fun
I enjoyed watching this , keep the good stuff ❤
Excellent showdown! Hope you can run it back when the roadway is dry
Thanks mate I enjoy soo much this videos when you came with diesel cars!!!!! I hope more cars here from darkside specially 1.9 tdi or 3.0 tdi audi. Thanks mate you make my Sunday
Diesel torque hits different. It's addictive.
You know 😎
but were was all that torque in that race?
@@99Lezard99 loosing because diesel need longer gears lol
It doesn't though since torque doesn't matter
@@99Lezard99 lost to bad traction?
Glad to see you smashing these drag races, state of carwow doing Hyper cars vs Motorbikes. Love how you keep it real with modded cars!!! Keep this up please!
Gotta laugh at this comment Keeping it real with enhanced cars 😂😂😂 Carwow has better content. I'd rather watch a chiron vs f1 car than watch some overpriced bmws with bad drivers race over a drag strip
@@aero2507 I think you have a language barrier in terms of what I mean….These are cars most normal down to Earth people can relate to or own. Watching this shows people real life examples of how a car will do with an m car. Who gives 2 shits about a multi million pound car vs something else nobody can drive? Yes some of their races are good….but Bikes vs hyper cars? Come on now…..get real 🤣🤣
@Aero250 how is watching two machines for which you can google their stats and know the outcome before even watching the video more entertaining? Better Than to see three different builds and be able to compare how the builds effected the cars relative to each other and to their stock engines? And as was said these are real life cars with real owners, with real mods. I don’t care if a Bugatti Chiron can beat an f1 car in a drag race I’ll never drive either of them. And on top of that half of carwows content is just reviews of disgusting electric BMWs that haven’t even came out yet they barely race anything good anymore. Officially gassed is clear of carwow.
@@kathleenmacdonald2843 big stiff idiot hasn’t got a clue has he, people who actually like cars like races like these! It’s so good to see things like this! I used to love Car wow races, but lately all they seem to do is get over priced super cars racing bikes and other cars 99% of people will never drive 😂🤦🏼♂️
Another weekend, another epic OG battle!
It was really good meeting you today at the services bro! All the best with the integra! Hopefully get to see you again at some point talk more about the 5 pots 😃👊
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The Darkside guys are good guys - I watch their channel as well. We need to get these cars back when it's dry.
I think the rwd diesel would win. 1000nm on wet roads is impossible to put down
Not really, they've always had a silly markup on products
@@GapeGang True, they sell original BMW parts for more than you'd pay at a dealer!
Awesome to see some n57’s on the channel done by DSD! Great video. Owner of a 1000nm m57 35d, such weapon with all the torque and quite stealthy since its smokeless😎
But it's not smokeless and it revs to 4k so what is the 1000 nm good for lol
@@digitalscale76 talking about ur 2 stroke moped?
@@bartselter5332 what? Thats gotta be the most corny unfunny thing ive read all day. No, im talking about physics you bozo. Torque doesnt matter dieselbrain.
Have you done any upgrades to the gearbox for it to handle 1000nm or does the stock 6hp handle it just fine?
That M4 is 🔥🔥🔥
Yeessssssssssss. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been dying for this as I have a 335d x drive. There's not much out there on KZhead surrounding these cars racing.
That M4 sounded epic, good race by all, all about the traction
Is the 430d with its single large turbo more tuneable than the 435dx with its two? Always seem to see it with higher stage 2/3 figures…
Feck me you’ve gotta rate Jamie big time for bringing the races we wanna see! Mad!
Jamie, you never fail to deliver yet another epic video. Shame the weather wasn't better, though 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾😅
Great race 🙌🏽🙌🏽
That M4 is 🔥 I Had High Expectations on the F82 M4 to Win and tbh it did me proud it just goes to show that Ashley was Driving the He'll out of that Stage 1 M4 and Struggling For Traction But Keeping his foot planted Regardless of The Weather Conditions but gotta give it to the BMW Diesel Machines the 430d & 435d was unstoppable This was a Close battle I think if it was Dry and had better weather Conditions I think the M4 Would of shown its True Protentional Great Race Between All 3 Cars Epic Video As Always Jamie Keep These Crazy OG BATTLES C'ming 💯💨👀
Mate they practically do the driving for you lol
@@mortimermortimer7555 yep, without a gearstick and clutch you're pretty disengaged with the car,all they do nowadays is just hold on to the steering wheel which for me will be alright when I'm 70+
@@flodareltih6775 The traction control was going mad in M4, he'd have crashed without it.
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n was worse with 1000nm torque,it won't grip at all
@@flodareltih6775 It looked like he had no finesse with the throttle compared to the other cars.
A M4 stage 1 with just those mods even an early model will achieve over 500bhp and 542 lb/ft quite easily. So the map on this one is quite soft. Better tyres on the M4 and wider too. So better traction even in wet conditions. With less torque than the diesels. Has better chance to get power down. Overall an expected result for the M4.
Of course, but used M4 is about double the price than those diesels. I think they offer a lot bang for the buck.
@johanneskoskela384 I like my bmw 330cd exactly because of power to cost ratio. Currently at 418bhp and will be going to 430bhp very soon 🙂
More like 480whp
@@commantrosexetlos4700 which will be over 500 bhp @ flywheel 👍
Diesel all the way. 435d xdrive Gran Coupe for me though. Dark side are good tuners. I think once you do the DPF delete, EGR and swirl flap mods, (the potential problem areas with these engines), the diesel engines are the ones to go for. You still get great mpg with the diesel engines as well. 435d x-drive going to 0 - 60 in 3.5 secs is just awesome!
I had a 435i GC M-sport stage2 everything nice. But I bought an M4. What decided it was the massive difference in chassi. But I miss 435i a lot. Best all around car I've ever had.
Round 2 Jamie not 1 😆🙈 @ 14:36 Great video either way! Keep em coming!
The torque of the diesels gives them an advantage off the line, and the 35D with X-Drive speaks for itself. Me personally im petrol all the way but good to see the potential of a tuned diesel
No it didn’t. M4 just struggling for grip first drag. 435d flys cause it’s 4wd. Torque, more specially low down power helps most when you are cruising then what to shoot off suddenly without dropping gears.
@@PiOfficialyou still need torque to make the most of the hp you have..
@@spookyreaper1702 all cars have enough torque. Never seen anything more more hp to weight and same or more traction lose to something just cause it was ‘torque limited’
@@PiOfficial exactly sure hp is defined by torque at specific rpm but in 95-99% of the cases the one with the best power to weight at the wheels will win unless traction limited
@@spookyreaper1702 torque is just HP.... When you take into account rpm. Hp is what counts end of the day especially with turbo petrols. Different story with peaky NA.
Diesel Powahhhh 🔥
The 4x4 BMW diesel seems like the prefect daily car, got to say the M4 sounded very artificial.. wicked video mate as always 😎✌👍👊
'Perfect daily' - That's a common misconception from 10 years ago... Diesel cars are no longer £30 a year to tax and diesel is no longer 1p different from petrol. 2019+ 435d xDrive is £520 tax and the fact diesel is like 10p more per litre than petrol cancels out the extra mpg. I'd much rather run a petrol daily with less going wrong, same running costs and be able to rev it past 5k. The government is going to extort diesel drivers wayyyyy before they do it with petrol.
@@1993j sooooooo many facts!!!!! Not many people think of it tho, sadly for them.
@@philip244 Say that about the Audi r10/r18 lmao dominated Lemans and WEC with diesel engines.
@@1993j yes and no. I hear what you’re saying but the fact is if you do long journeys a petrol can’t compete wit the diesel mpg. My car gets 70MPG at 70MPH. Both have got their perks and faults. Looking forward to getting some V8 petrol builds going
@@philip244 Ah yes the clownish excuses lmao and only the Le Mans race is 24h long, have you ever watched WEC bruh
I had a 2015 435d. I loved that car more than oxygen. This video is life for me. Unfortunately due to financial issues I now drive my dad's mk5 convertible astra. Understeer personified is that car. It's painful to say. Hopefully one day I'll get a 4 series again 🙏
Love a good old traffic light line up in my stage 2 435d to confuse most fellow traffic light competitors :)
Grow up
@@garycartwright4860 Grow up
@@garycartwright4860 says the one watching a petrol head type channel and then commenting on enthusiasts posts.. Secure your ego brother and rid yourself of your negativities ❤️
@@derekporter66 dpf delete and downpipe was £250, front mount intercooler was £300, decat was £100, remap £250 and xhp stage 3 gearbox map £300.. So all in about £1200 and should be about 390-420bhp going off other builds. 0-62 in 3.7s and 1/4 mile in 11.7.. Ready for stage 3
@@derekporter66 n57 isn't near as good as b58 for 100-200 runs, it's strengths are 0-100mph.. About 10 seconds on 100-200. Mpg is right foot variable.. At worst 24mpg when gunning it everywhere but on eco mode driving like Gary Cartwright (linked above) about 50-52mpg..
I wish that we had those BMW Diesel in 🇺🇸, I love diesel cars, excellent race 🏁
Finally a video showing the world just how crazy diesel power really is😂🥵
Expensive to run? A diesel engine? Nope not even expensive actually.. If you talk about m4 yes
It lost...
Bear in mind, though... Only one of these cars is actually road legal in the UK.
1000nm and still lost when both had traction 😬
@@EnglishTMTB How are two of them not road legal exactly?
I'm a Petrolhead, so M4 all the way, but that 3 litre diesel is the best diesel engine without a doubt, in single or twin turbo guise 👌
Love it when 2 channels I watch cross over lol
Great to see some love for diesels on this channel. Diesels might lose out on the race by not being as responsive as petrol. It's just in their nature, however in the real world. If you do moderate to high mileage a day or got a somewhat heavy car, it's all about the torque. Considering those diesel engines don't ever have big performance mods, just removal or restrictions and faster spooling turbos. They are seriously impressive
That's the thing, though... "In the real world", these two diesels aren't road legal, might not pass MOT and would land big fines if a BiB knows cars. Granted though, for a given performance level, a diesel is going to be easier to live with in terms of fuel consumption... But those emissions systems these cars have had removed can result in costly bills if/when they go wrong. (And FWIW, yes, my daily is diesel as at 30k+ miles a year, petrol doesn't make sense)
@@EnglishTMTB it depends on the tune. Generally the EGR valves/flaps can lead to more harm than good if they fail or arent cleaned regularly. All depends on what mods are done and how well they are accounted for in the tune. Diesel tuning is a little bit more sensitive than petrol but if the tune is good (not toorich/lean), the DPF is fitted before the test and maybe asmall bit of kerosone throw in the pure a bit cleaner it should pass the test
@@rotatingglasssafe Passing the test doesn't make it legal though - it just means you've gotten away with it... Removing emissions equipment that came from the factory is illegal straight up. You're not wrong, really, though - there's a huge difference in emissions between a well maintained and cared for engine and a neglected machine that it's owner regards as a whitegood... It's yet another case of one size fits all regulations being a laughable waste of time and injustice to many.
@@EnglishTMTB ah yes if we are going down that rabbit hole them yes changing anything that would overall effect the efficiency of the engine's ability to reduce it's emissions would render it illegal but if that's the case than all car drivetrain related car modifications are illegal. Something as simple as a cheap aftermarket muffler. But really on the open road emissions are less of an issue it's cities where more should be encouraged or take public transport
@@rotatingglasssafe up to a point, a lot of mods could be questionable... DPF/EGR deletes are a little more cut and dried, though. Again, it doesn't necessarily upset me that people do it... But would I want to drive something on the road that risks a big fine? No
This is why you are going to win!!! I’ve been looking for this video for ages….tuned diesel vs an stock m car but this will deffo do…. recently last night and I couldn’t find it now here it is… #patt3rnup 🔥🔥🔥 i think stock m4 would get gapped
Diesel torque apart from some of the new EV's has always been good. Back in the day had an old 1.9 PD TDi at Darkside the bhp and torque were impressive even by some of todays standards. Those guys know their sh1t!
That second drag between the M and the 435 was too close to tell, that was a draw. M4 guy messed up on first attempt with gears. Great video as always 👌
It wasnt 435 was littlebit ahead
435d guy messed up gears on the second attempt also which allowed the m4 to catch
M4 is slower vs 435d stage 2 at 400m..stick m4 does 12.5 about like a stage 1 435d..stage 2 435d made low to mid 11s ..stock m4 doesn't go under 12 sec
Would be great to have these three back on a dry day👍🏻
Be same results I’d say
@@easyerc2226 I would say the wet track is probably a fairy significant advantage for the xdrive. Given how close the second drag was, I doubt it’d beat the M4 on a dryer track
@@easyerc2226 nah, as fast as the diesels are I suspect the m4 would win every race on a dry track
It could be a separate diesel battle list also, that have been fun…
Now lets all address the 🐘in the room. What is the price difference for a standard m4 vs a mapped 430D or 435D all the same year? How close would they really be in real life to the standard m4? Speaking from xp there would be little or nothing in it🤔. However the diesel has better mpg lower purchase price, insurance & road tax. But would still love a m4 much better exhaust note, exterior & interior styling. Gr8 vid btw👍
Channels growing like vow Jamie’s in the fast lane full throttle and ain’t stopping for no one nothing can stop me I’m all the way up all the way up hahahaha just don’t end up landing on the moon Jamie coz we all will miss u hahahahaha
435d Launch was clean!
M4 jumped the first two roll races then shouts let's go 🤣
What a great lineup of cars!
M looks almost EXACTLY like mine. Never seen another satin black. Nice car.
The 435D is the warehouse managers car at my workplace. Been in it and I can say from experience its faster than it looks.
I drive an f33 bmw 435d and its a perfekt allrounder
As soon as I saw the lineup I knew the beemer was gonna win
😅
Imagine that 435d can do a 3.2-3.3 in the dry to 60 🤯
A very naughty motor indeed.
Interesting for the Diesel BMW is the MPG, but still delivering massive power. Sound always Petrol. Amazing Cars🤙
“A train length slice of gapple pie” lmao
This is what i been waiting for
Darkside developments know their stuff with diesel engines, had my ibiza 2.0td tuned there and had no problems at all after 6 years of ownership. Own a 340i nowadays but if I went back to diesel I would be taking my car straight to these guys!
Uks best youtuber
The real life drag races that matter car wow are like fantasy drags races haha
Great Video !
Let's be honest their all winners with their cars... great video thank you... Which one would i have? Any of them....
Became a dieselhead thanks to darkside developments. Love to all of them
Ew
@@digitalscale76 is that what people say when they see you?
@@tryhardgames1907 No. I am very handsome, I look really sexy. Hit me up with your ig and have your old lady tell you. That was such a lame ass attempt lol diesel brains
Proud to be in the 435d team for about 2 years :D
M4 for the sound, but 435D for the rest, though I'm biased since I have a 435D standard not tuned, though I only bought it 2 days ago 😁
The OG lists is strong 💪 people needs to come proper 💪
Always loved 435d 💪🏻
They do a clean remap unlike other tuners.
I am buying only 5 series and most of the time diesel and petrol,in 2010 it happend once and I bought 2x diesel E60 520d and 530d but at this time I owned E60M5.Now in my garage F11 530d 310 BHP and 650Nm and G31 540i witout modification
9:41 man turn into Mario 😂😂
Next week looks interesting 🤔😯🔥
8:45 Bmw sound that we all know
My screenshot says a draw between M4 and 435d on the second drag race. If the 435d won it was by an inch. Fun video. Real British Autumn conditions. Thanks b
More diesel content bro , please lol
You know !
Dude, when we gonna get my death trap on your channel lol 😆
I’m so happy the 435d won the drag race, we need fast diesel cars in this would
I've got a stage 1 435d, and she is rapid. In all conditions too
How come the single turbo 430d produces more power than the sequential turbo 435d?
435d in uk weather smokes 95% of cars off the lights, unreal motor all year round
Please run this again in the dry 🙏!
Made my day!
I have a 330D f80 with 390hk 750nm and this was fun to watch!
I was gassed as soon as I saw the Darkside stickers on the rear windows 😜
Those diesels sound insane for diesels
You just ain’t beating petrol engines 😂🤙🏼
Lovely to see diesel power smoking the petrol!