Full Cinematographers Roundtable: Roger Deakins, Rachel Morrison, Dan Laustsen | Close Up With THR
2018 ж. 26 Ақп.
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Janus Kaminski ('The Post'), Roger Deakins ('Blade Runner 2049'), Robert Elswit ('Suburbicon'), Rachel Morrison ('Mudbound'), Dan Laustsen ('The Shape of Water'), and Hoyte van Hoytema ('Dunkirk') join Close Up with The Hollywood Reporter for this seasons's FULL cinematographers roundtable.
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Imagine being the crew that setup the lighting and cameras for this interview. I don't think you would ever feel as judged for your work than being in a room full of some of the best cinematographers in the world while you setup some panel LEDs.
Patrick Tomasso I was just thinking about this lol. So much second guessing going through your head.
There's an interview with Deakins somewhere on KZhead where he calls out their lighting, he's like "these lights I would never do that" Hahahah
Patrick Tomasso Ahhhhh that hurts my soul so much lol. I've heard him say he doesn't use fill lights. Meanwhile you set up a fill and he scoffs hahaha
he wasn't mean about it, he said, This light is beautiful, but i wouldn't do that, just proving the point that as a cinematographer you need to have your own style when you are doing stuff
anybody ever hear of an entire town fucking up someones whole life to get ahead in life .. for some bitch uve never met u can find anywhere
This lady is the best host. She allows everyone to speak without interruption and she asks thought provoking questions. I wish she had done the director’s roundtable this year.
Better than the guy who does the director roundtables
YES!!
Agreed
What's the reporter's/interviewer's name?
YES PLEASE!
Hey THR! Have you thought about making an editors roundtable? I think many of us would love it deeply. Thanks.
Oriol Domènech That's awesome 💡.
Brilliant
I second this! Would absolutely love that
yes!
Great idea. I'd love to see a Sound Designers or Visual Effects Supervisors Roundtable as well.
"I would have shot Blade Runner on an iPhone" - Roger Deakins.
What does it mean?
@@Ayah-vx2ds That he actually doesn't give a F*** about what camera he uses. It's all about the lighting.
@@nukliozz really?
Film>>>>>>>>digital. Cry about it.
@@Lite727 future is digital. Live with it.
Rodger talking about researching architecture in order to understand light better is underrated
Do you have the timestamp for this
When the film vs digital conversation started i could instantly see that "here we go again" face on Roger Deakins ahah
Not necessarily. I see him simply listening.
This lady was a much better moderator than interrupting guy. Can we have more of her please?
Very original aint you
@@AndyP998 doesn't need to be original if it's true
@@jessica5497 You who ride simpleton bus need to understand one thing about editing. I know who you talk about and have kept eye on him few times, he seems like he is interrupting all times but there is noticeable edit just before so they cut directly to his next question so it looks he is interrupting all time. You gotta start learn some things
@@AndyP998 , that is indeed the case but why are you brushing off the fact that Stephen Galloway comes across as a f***ing arrogant interruptor in these videos? The reason doesn't matter so much in this case - what matters is the end result. And the END RESULT with this moderator instead of Stephen Galloway comes across as more respectful and civilized! THAT is the point.
@@jcp1984again Most of its because of editing, like i said before. There are noticeable cuts between answers and questions
I love how Roger Deakins says "stuff" all the time. He talks and acts like a rock star it's great
He’s a cinematography rockstar 😎
He's like Bill Nighy in Love Actually.
slip him into pink floyd and no one would bat an eye
He looks likr a retired rock star who is about to go back on the road amd is going to smash it lol
"Don't use any fill light, I think, that's the key..." Was this intentional lol
This is lost on me - what do you mean?
C B when it comes to lighting, you have a key light (the main light), a fill light and a back light. It was a play on words. He was basically saying don’t use a fill light just use a key
@@TheDylanHoang just bounce the light
If roger's dreams came magically true and shot a film with Tarkovski it would be the best looking film I'll ever see in my life, if it would be possible
Alejandro Benavides Yes!
The best films of Tarkovsky were shot by this man Rerberg Georgy. He was a genius cinematographer, remember and respect that
Ольга Соколова don’t do the GOAT Sven Nykvist like that (he shot Offret)
Liam Kerrigan Ye but I haven’t seen the sacrifice, I’m saving that for last. But watching him shoot for Bergman, I can only imagine
@@user-wy9ng8bz5u Rerberg Georgy shot my two favourites The Mirror and The Stalker. But I think it is worth to mention Vadim Yusov who worked on 3 movies with Tarkovsky, later he worked with Sergey Bondarchuk, Georgiy Daneliy, Nikita Mikhalkov. True Legend
Roger Deakins is so passionate about film, its so inspiring to see a nearly 70 year old talk about movies like I talk about them with my friends.
It's HUGELY underestimated for the big public how huge the influence of the work of a good cinematographer really is. They are truly the ones who transform movies into pieces of art.
Diente de Pollo yeah, I mean basically how you present the movie itself is 90% of it. Nobody wants to watch a cheap uninspiring looking film. It is such an essential part of the movie... But a director should know the beauty of wonderful visuals. Taika Waititi is a fantastic example of this, he is one of the most stylish directors out there today.
i almost cried when Roger Deakins said Andrei Tarkovsky. The thought of such an amazing director and a talented cinematographer was almost too much for my heart.
you literally cried about it you loser
@@LanaaAmor on a 3 year old comment. Cheers mate
@@eldueno6593 cry about it
@@LanaaAmor k
@@LanaaAmor yr not very nice :(
I love the fact that everyone pay their full attention when roger talks it shows a lot respect
when deakins said andrei trakovsky my heart skipped a beat.i can only imagine the cinematic masterpiece
I LOVE this interviewer. She allows it to just feel like a normal conversation without pretense. I love that she turned the typical question about women in film onto the MEN and asked them if they specifically try to hire women!! I wish she did more of these interviews. She also clearly knows a lot more about the cinematography craft than the other interviewers knows about acting/directing.
Where is the Best Boy Grip Round Table THR??
bobunitone Kevin Spacey wasn’t available
bravo sir
Door PA round table
"Human Sandbag" roundtable. Steven Galloway, you hack... Make it happen!
@@bobunitone i would happily use Galloway as a wedge for dolly rails
The energy in the room is super intense, you can literally feel it. A table filled with some of cinema's greatest and prolific cinematographer's who all have different personalities, and at some point would've or would-be competitors, but it's super thriller to watch :D
This was the slowest yet most engaging roundtable this year
"Deakins" needs to be a word in the dictionary, describing that which makes the ordinary "extraordinary". Used in a sentence: We need to "Deakins" it up a notch. Or That which was blank, has now been "Deakined".
I think imma start using it actually in real life.
LOOOOL Brilliant 👏🏾
Man poor Bob Elswit, they misunderstood his question. He was asking for advice. They were so rude there lol
agreed! I know Deakins tires of the digital vs film discussion and but I felt like he was just like 'here's a medium I struggle with but I want to know it better and learn to use it can anyone help' - he wasn't being a luddite/film purist saying one medium is better than the other. I felt bad for him there I think he meant very well and it got a bit cold there all of a sudden! Clearly a touchy topic!
Ikrr!! I actually felt bad when they started literally bashing him for that 😂
They understood him perfectly and their answer was proper: use what you like and force the director to go along with it. Bob isn't a new kid, he's a respected DoP so if someone chooses him, surely he can force them to use film. It's like those old teachers who tell you "use digital, it's the future anyways" but in class they start commenting on your work being odd because they don't understand it has different implementations. Just stick to your guns and swing em if you have to.
I felt they were a bit rude as well especially Deakins.
@@DarkAngelEU Sure, but Bob doesn’t want to force them to use what he’s comfortable with. Bob wanted to learn how to improve when he does digital. He wants to be his best when he does either. That’s why he’s asking the question in the first place. The questions wasn’t “I don’t want to shoot digital. How do I get off it?”. Then sure “Apply pressure on the director” would be the answer. But I agree with you bunch. I also felt bad for him. He wasn’t opening the argument as to which is better. He wanted professional advice and figure out why he struggles so much with that format.
I’m mad that they use these other dudes when they have this lady as a possible interviewer... she’s so great compared to them. Thank you ma’am! You killed it.
Why are you on this video if you don't care about cinematographers?
22:03 Elswit talks about not having figured out digital and Roger reacting to the guy like "What is he talking about. Its eazy peazy yo"
BT dubs I would've totally hated Elswit after this if he wasn't so goddamn wonderful with his work. This truly is a roundtable of the masters. The deaks, Elswit himself, Laustsen and the great Janus. Phew! Too much talent yo
Just leave on the Factory Settings and then pretend you're composing shots.
@@YashAditya why would you have hated him. He put forward a question as politely and with as much self-awareness as possible. He didn't just lash out.
Any roundtables with the art directors/production designers? I would love to see the dynamics and how differently they speak about the film from the very beginning of the process in the designers perspective
I love how they talk about the projects coming together, not having to be the "genius" most people think directors are, but just the guy holding the camera, who shot everything, but no one notices. You're very important, yet you don't have to deal with all the fame. It's perfect for an integral artist .
I think they misunderstood Elswit. He wasn't debating, he was asking for advice. They were actually kind of rude. 20:11
It was such a hostile interview honestly. They were so defensive over so much stuff and like you said, very much misunderstood poor Elswit.
Ye exactly, Dan was the only one who answered the question. It's a shame would of loved to hear what the others would of said.
True Deakins was pretty turned off....seemed he is stilled pissed at Bob winning against him for There Will Be Blood ....he was the main contender that year for no country for old men
Could u tell me in which minute you're referring to? Thank you.
Elswits comments were like a breath of fresh air for me...he was talking like you would as a casual conversation. As if we (film lovers) got a chance to be privy to something really interesting...but the others just stopped it flat...I don't really get it.
Kind of crazy to hear them say that film students aren’t watching movies older than 1980.
Can't say for the US, but I don't think it's true for schools in Europe.
@@JonJOn0 Definitely not in Europe. We learn to respect history.
Definitely not true in Europe. You don't even need to be a film student, cultural studies, communication & media studies all delve deep into the beginning and the back catalogue of film. I remember that we dissected at least a dozen films from 1900-1920 (Le voyage dans la lune, The Great Train Robbery, Intolerance, Les vampires etc.) at a course that wasn't even a deep dive but rather a general evolution of media.
In film school, the oldest film I've been assigned was in 1992 if I'm not wrong. For study it was some Clint Eastwood film I don't remember which. BUT I live in a country that didn't really have any iconic films much before that.
I studied in San Francisco, and we even watched some Lumiere productions from back in the 1800s lol So I’m not really sure what they were talking about here 🤷♂️
Roger deakins is one of the living legend and a master cinematographer of Hollywood Cinema history...he is genius..
All of them are masters in thier own way...
The Hollywood Reporter, I really want to thank you for starting these roundtable series. A lot of love to the team who are involved in the process of making these successful.
Deakins the cinematography king and yet is interviewed so rarely he turns up wearing the noisiest synthetic wind cheater.
And even after they moved his mic... No different 😄
I noticed that too. Used think he could afford some decent natural fabric.
He's a cinematographer not a sound guy.🤣 I seriously thought my speakers were acting up.
Oh boy. I was looking forward to this!
thank you for finally uploading the full roundtable! :)
Roger Deakins better win the oscar this year
DONE.
Won
Thanks for doing these roundtables, Hollywood Reporter
On of the best roundtables this year. Such an interesting and sincere conversation. Not only are they great DPs, but also people with very bright and inspirational personalities. More talks like this, well done, the Hollywood Reporter !
This is so awesome! I could watch this all day!
Finally!Subbed to this channel because of this round up!
I really like this interviewer/moderator. I thought this along with the animation roundtable were both very well conducted and I credit the interviewer with her style. I also liked the editor that did the cinematographers roundtable last year. He too had the type of questions that elicit good conversation. I'd like to see them both host more of these roundtable discussions.
FINALLY! been waiting for this for weeks!
We need more round tables of professionals together like this. Raw and wonderful. I think I’ve watched this whole thing a few times now.
the moderator’s lack of assertion in interjection totally made Elswitt look like a fool once everyone was ready to move on
that wouldnt happened with the much-maligned interrupting guy
24:58 take a shot every time Hoytema says ‘you know’
When Deakins said "in Blade Runner, all the colors are in camera, actually on the digital negative"........ That aroused me.
Why?
The pros all in one room discussing craft, what a treat this video is!
Thanks for this :) Always valuable content, I love it.
love that roundtable. so inspiring
I didn’t like Dunkirk as a film but I’ll admit the cinematography was amazing. I’m hoping Deakins wins this year. Blade Runner was stunning.
Nomad Black The Academy agreed with you.
I liked was able to creatively jump around in time and add individuality and character to a sixty year-old story of thousands of people. The pacing of the film and way it was edited was spectacular and definitely deserved the Oscar it got for it. I do agree with you on Blade Runner though.
Why didn't you like it ? I thought Dunkirk was brilliant exactly because it was so pure cinema with minimal dialogue, and mainly just sound and images. And it omitted a lot of the typical Nolan stylistics which I thought was refreshing.
Dunkirk gets better every time you watch it. I didn't like it at first either, but I caught it again on HBO recently and I enjoyed it a lot more. The structure takes some getting used to.
@@Jonmad17 that's Christopher Nolan for you
I love this panel. Great picks.
I have not seen a movie in two weeks but Ive watched like 6 hours of THR's roundtables :D very interesting
Jānis Apels hahahahaha
I don't have time to watch movies either.
I don't know if this stuff has been around for a long time and I have inexplicably overlooked it so far, or if they are just building up a genuinely movie talk channel. This stuff is absolutely awesome, entertaining and interesting. Not at all this usual "How to sell a movie" interviews. Compliment. More!
It’s been a few years but you’re in luck because that means you have a ton to go back and watch!
They have been doing it for a few years now all the full roundtables are around 45 minutes to an hour and are absolutely awesome. I don't bother watching any of the small cut up bits they post before hand I just wait for the full length ones.
listening to this great professionals, listening to how they think and create is massively inspiring!
I want Chivo Lubezki to be on the next one!
I believe he doesn't do interviews. Not sure why, but don't think he's up for the whole publicity thing.
Martin Jordan chivo is socially akward and doesn't like to be in the spotlight like at all.
That was great, I loved watching and listening to these master cinematographers, people that usually don't get too much time in the limelight.
I love how the other DPs are scratching their heads wondering how to make digital camerawork look organic, and Roger's just sitting there wondering why it's any different.
as a cine student...i am loving this
Some brilliant questions!
Watching these make me so happy
The host did an excellent job. I enjoyed this a lot. Great information from these legends.
So much talent in one little table.
I don't know anything about filming or photography, but this shit was riveting.
This was the best roundtable
This was just amazing. !!
Please do more of these roundtable things with experts in arts fields. Please. the world needs stuff like this x
This better be Rogers year!! the work that was done on 2049 was so inspiring.
Loved how Roger was like, lady move on with this topic, WE ARE FED UP! hahaha. Had he not said that they would've gotten stucked in there! Anyways this conversation was so educational.
This is an absolutely stellar panel
Not sure who got this idea to have all the creators sit and discuss...its great to watch and hear them ❤️
Insane group of people! Nice one thr!
I’m really stoked for Empire of Light. Just in the trailer, there are a few signature Deakins shots, i.e., the shot from behind with a perfect silhouette of the characters. He is really not only a master of photography, but also knows his lighting, and the importance of it, whether it’s actual sunlight, or moonlight on location or artificial lighting in a studio. A true artist.
Fun Drinking Game: Have a shot of tequila everytime Hoyte says "You know"
Amazing host. Amazing interviews and exchanges, but this host was never in the way, yet still involved. Felt so appropriate. We need more of these!
bunch of excellent artists
Was wondering about how they managed to shoot the oil well fire scene in There Will Be Blood when I firstwatched it. Apparently it was a happy accident! Great scene.
To everyone saying that they disrespected Elswit: Elswit is a professional cinematographer. He's respected. He SHOULD be having a conversation with the director about the medium he wants to shoot on where he says "I want to shoot on film because..." and the director and him can have the conversation. It's simple. Deakins wasn't being rude, but he just tires from having this conversation of film vs. digital. He is saying that the CAMERA. DOESN'T. MATTER. It's what's in the frame, it's how you light it, its your composition. That's why he said he'd "shoot blade runner on an iPhone." Elswit doesn't know how to make his digital work look the way he wants? Well, Elswit, do the camera tests. Test different cameras, lenses, lighting, patterns, colors and filters. It's a matter of putting in the work and not just asking for a fast pass from the other professionals at the table because no one is going to be able to give him a straight answer about how to get his digital work to look better. Too many variables involved.
Additionally I think Roger and others were pissed that it was asked while the cameras were on, they knew the second it was mentioned that it would be a large portion of this video. I'm sure if Elswit had asked the group this when the cameras were turned off it would have been a frank and pleasant discussion. But everyone knew that when he brought it up it would be the main feature of the video and their answers would be on film sites across the web.
@@geoffreybassett6741I did find what Elswit was talking about Digital stuff to be really interesting as someone who really doesn’t know anything about cinematography. Plus I don’t think what he is saying and asking was a bad thing. Asking people questions is fine as long as we aren’t being extremely rude or violent about it.
Great video
These guys are the absolute best in the business. As a filmmaker they inspire me tremendously
have you seen the series "Lasermannen"? The best cinematography ever by Hoytema imo, so gritty and beautiful at the same time! Inspired me so much!
I wont lie - when I heard Deakins mention Tarkovsky I felt a little tingle in my happy place.
YESSS! This is what I've been waiting for!
We need another one of these next year
Awesome conversation with cinematography giants. These men and woman, are true geniuses. A good director is as well. People fail to see how important the DOP is. The DP is an absolute key to the filmmaking process. The DOP I think often can understand and speak a scene better than a director or director/writer who wrote it. They have the ability to fabricate a scene, including its blocking, its composition, its lighting and motivation all within their brains. Alot of things a DP might say could very well be overlooked by an over ambitious director, a producer, or what have you. Trust your DP's people. They are the key to a tremendous amount of film success.
Amazing content! One question, is there going to be a Film editor’s roundtable? It would be amazing! They are a big role of filmmaking.
Come on! The best cinematographers in the world are around the table! As an amateur cameraman, it is impressive to see them all together and have their opinions about productions.
Roundtable Suggestions: Editors, Sound Designers, Composers, Visual Effects, Makeup & Hair, Production Design, Costume Design, FOreign Language FIlm (directors), Casting you know, just to capture the breadth of filmmakers involved in production.
29:30 euuuuhhhh... Janus explaining why Spielberg doesn't have much to offer anymore.. they don't talk, his 'main concern is that everyone looks presentable and dignifying'.. explains so much about how I feel about Spielberg films now. The images are 'full of hot air' at all times.
Excellent
The way Janusz ripped that lapel off him in the end...😂😂
I love this. My only quibble, Denis Villeneuve’s name is pronounced “Deni Ville Neuve”. His last name is 2 syllables not 3. It’s basically French for Newton.
Deakins is an idol for me. What a treat. 😍
Melville and Elswit or Deakins and Tarkovsky, those would be dreams!
8:18 it is worth mentioning here that Hoyte did not take other from Pfister on DUNKIRK but already on INTERSTELLAR
I absolutely love these interviews! Deakins is a genius! It would be great if you could do more of this kind of interviews. There is any possibility that you could upload the translation in Spanish, please
He does what he wants, he does what he wants, Janus Kaminski he does what he wants!
waited soo long for this one! :D
I watched this just today: december 2022. I felt amazed.
is there a link to SoundCloud for this?
Really cool and informative :'j
Wow Caroline, what a line up to interview. I'm so jealous and inspired. Hope you're well.
Nice qoute Roger "the more the budget has,then the more expectation and the more you push yourself to do stuff and you get down to the same thing"
I just love Roger Deakins
OOOOh shit! Yes night made! been waiting a whole year for this!!