ARAMUS: 1831 Execución de Mariana Pineda

That cannot be denied

Poor Lady? I see absolutely nothing poor about this woman, although coming into this video fresh I would not dare insert myself into the era in which this happened. As we were not alive to experience the political turmoil of the era. Whether or not she deserved to be executed for trying to what appears to be overthrowing the sitting government at the time. She accepted the consequences fully and with great dignity. Considering the time. There were a lot more brutal methods of execution available. The system in which she died under indeed was corrupt, but I don't see anything poor about her she had a lot more strength than people might give her based on a movie's interpretation.

Era el ceremonial de la época.

In Amazon Spain

Esas ejecuciones eran dictadas por tribunales militares, pero los reos solían ser civiles.

The garotte was still in use in Spain in 1974. The last five executions were by firing squad (all on the same day in 1975).

En Estados Unidos tenemos la inyección letal y la silla eléctrica hasta hace 3 días y en Inglaterra hay cadena perpetua.Enriqie Vlll le cortana la cabeza a sus mujeres .En España nunca se mató a una Reina y menos con un hacha como si fuera un árbol.

​@@WDH59510 Todos eran terroristas .En EE,uu los matan a día de hoy a los negros por robar un coche y por la espalda . Anglosajones.

@@WDH59510 Salvador Puig Antich was executed March 2, 1974 for anti-Franco activities.

I don't know why, but I am very interested in the history of Spain, Portugal and the colonization of South America by these two countries(even though I'm despise colonialism and racism as such), maybe because of my Asperger Syndrome, I am attracted to the Iberian culture :-) How did Marian Pineda deserve her fate that she was sentenced to death in such a way? Why do the Spaniards admire her today?

@@PawelK198604 We must be twins, my friend, since I too have Asperger's syndrome. Mariana Pineda was an outspoken person who supported democratic reforms and social justice issues, along with that of her late husband, who was also a Freemason. Both read various writings of Simon Bolivar, American Federalist Papers by Thomas Payne, Jefferson, Franklin, etc on his treatises on liberty and equality and tried their best to introduce such practices in Spain. After her husband died, Mariana continued to carry on his work and shared her views with like-minded people, dissolving the feudal caste system, granting women's rights (including the right to vote, run for public office), Gypsy and Basque recognition, religious freedom among the Jewish and Moorish communities under democratic rule. The ruling monarchy viewed such ideals as radical nationalism and therefore a threat to the status quo. The old school conservatives feared the likes of Pineda's ideology would cause social dissent and unrest, resulting in the destruction of the monarchy in almost the same way as it did in France and put the Church and its governing representatives at risk during their revolution and Reign of Terror 1789-1799. They didn't want a repetitive bloody coup d'etat of that sort done in their country. Pineda was well aware of the consequences of her words and actions and was willing to give her life to such a cause if need be. She was a marked woman for speaking her mind in a time when women were deemed as mere chattel by being meek and obedient to their husbands, parents, etc Some might have called her callous and a traitor because of this, but Spain's views have changed in such a way people like Mariana would be proud of and yet like other newly independent countries, still have a long ways to go, however. I hope this helps answer your question...If you wish to chat further, you can also send me an email printangel@aol.com

​@@PawelK198604Mariana Pineda formaba parte del movimiento liberal, que deseaba para España una monarquía parlamentaria como la inglesa, una democracia. Fernando VII, el rey de entonces, era un rey absoluto que abolió la Constitución. Mariana encargó el bordado de una bandera liberal, y, al ser descubierta, fue detenida y condenada a muerte por traición. Lo que la hace admirable es que le ofrecieron varias veces la vida y la libertad a cambio de delatar a los liberales que conocía, y se negó a ello siempre. Siempre se la admiró en España por eso.

How evil ..and the execution of 6 millions Jews during the holocaust, only because they were not Christian, that was OK?

Lo è sempre stato .

Y sus descendietes😊

Young, beautiful and mother of two children.

Probably in the script. It's called acting

It would be terrifying, as well, even if she were old and ugly.

she is an spanish actres her name is Josefa Flores "Marisol" (Josefa Flores) and she is alive!

PEPA FLORES

It’s Sick!

Es Marisol fue su último trabajo antes de retirarse

The goal isn't efficiency. The goal IS torture and slow and painful death.

The Spanish still used it as a method of execution in the 1970s under Franco.

@@ianmcclellan7695 Hopefully on the filthy Communist swill who yearned for the "good old days" of their Messiahs - Lenin and Stalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

matismf there's no justification for such an awful method of execution and Franco was a fascist who overthrew the legally elected government. So he's hardly the good guy.

I agree, long-drop hanging is a much better execution method. Quick neck snap with near instantaneous death.

She killed no one. She was found guilty of a liberalism conspiracy which, notably, included the rights of women. She refused to disavow her beliefs and got strangled for it. Dangerous for women to have equality or liberated notions back in 1831.

She didn't kill anyone, but was involved in helping a liberal prisoner escape. She was offered a chance to live by snitching on her cohorts, but refused to do it.

Franco finally croaked in 1975.

Aynen !

Para las personas como ud que viven en un mundo de fantasía; si no existiera un alto precio para crímenes y otras barbaridades, estaríamos peo

​@@franciscosanchez7474Vengan a Uruguay y observen los crimenes barbaros que hay y las penas son ridiculas. Después opinen si es necesario o no la pena de muerte. Saludos

@@ricardoM113 en todas partes hay crímenes bárbaros porque ahora se protege al criminal

This seemed humane compared to that guy they put to death in Alabama the other week.

-Beach.sunset - Ni idea hermano estoy pensando lo mismo jajajajajjajajajaj

Viva el Donald Trump

Ximena G "Por qué los comentarios son en ingles si el video esta en español?" Por la misma razón que los comentarios son en español cuando los videos son en inglés.

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Porque a los anglos les encanta resaltar todo lo oscuro de la historia de España. Sin reparar en que no hay nada más oscuro que su historia. Ya sabemos que son expertos en exagerar sus victorias y esconder sus derrotas y sus miserias.

Muy bien expresado.

Le falta ortografía. Aprenda a escribir y redactar.

Usted ha visto pocos caballos, porque ella va subida en un borrico, no en un caballo.

@@manchego6610 un burrito ...tan maravilloso que párese un caballo ....y confusión ..y le contesto a esa persona que me dice lo de mi ortografía .......primero los nervios de redactar , en pocos minutos en el pensamiento ...segundo en mi niñez , ni escuelas. Ustedes lo tienen todo ..y ensima , se burlan de una persona mayor ...ni escuela ni comida ....usted tan listo , vivira ,a cuerpo de rey ....yo no ...con ella le quiero decir la edad que tengo , sin estudio de nada ....si he escrito este , algo , impecable para mí ,a sido por haber victo , la serie , y recordar mi tierra ....dejen por favor las críticas y sehan ma benévolos....

@@antonioalvarezberbel5328 Oiga, que yo no me burlo de nada. Que me limito a decirle que va montada en un burro y no en un caballo, que con la edad que dice usted que tiene, debía distinguir entre un animal y otro.

Elbert Derf yes and abusing little girls and boys. A priest at work. Hell has a place for them

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It was the priests who addicted the whole of China to opium ... It was the priests who dropped the two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ... The priests are the owners of the world drug business ... The priests promote Woodstock gang bang worldwide ... They are the "idols" of young people who follow them devotedly in the service of God ... In fact, the convents are full of young people eager for sacred music, modesty, virtues and prayers ... The priests run the arms industries, all revolutionary movements and terrorist organizations ... Yes, priests are the owners and agents of the lucrative industries of pornography, pedophilia, organ trafficking, the white slave trade ... Priests rule in Soros, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Ford, etc., they also rule the ONU, parliaments, judicial courts, armed forces around the world and determine wars and crises... Everything in the name of God... for the happines of demons! All right... I understand!

deliberately obvious attempts at sarcasm as here, is a begrudged admission.

@@elbertderf803 For example, it is not because a father is bad that all fathers are bad, nor that, it will give us the right to condemn paternity. The "deliberate attempts at sarcasm" are not admissions of begrudge, but were a direct reaction to what you deliberately imply in your original placement.

No es hipocresía, la condenó la ley del hombre, la ley de Dios la considera su hija y le ofrece su apoyo hasta el final. Ahí la Iglesia no podía evitar la muerte.

@@AguedaG no hablo espangol. Hablo ingles, alemagn, russo, gales, poco Frances.

@@bobapbob5812 ¿no hay traductor de Google?

It is hypocrasy, since the church always sided with the absolutist rulers. They protected each other and innocent people seeking freedom paid the price

The Spanish were very religious.

Princess Of Halloween : the garrote.

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Garrote. Se sujetaba el cuello con un aro que se hacía girar al mismo tiempo que un tornillo rompía las cervicales. Se suponía que era rápido, pero había reos que tardaban hasta veinte minutos en morir, y otros se ahogaban en su propia sangre.

Basically snaps your neck and crushes the windpipe. A bit like hanging except you sometime strangle to death if your neck doesn't snap when you first drop.

The Garotte, an inhumane way of killing someone, it wasn't as quick, and clean as this film shows, it slowly compressed the neck, slowly crushing the throat and neck of the condemned , who met a hideous demise.

¿Y cómo se los iban a sujetar si no?

El mismo Dios que les dio libre albedrío para elegir entre el bien y el mal.

Dioses no existen.

No, yo lo que dije fue, que España es un "shit hole", pero no es igual.

I dont either. She was executed for political treason and conspiracy. The monarchy's of Europe did not tolerate other liberal opinions, and that is why the 1848 revolutions were also put down. It is Spain very conservative and the inquisition was still active until 1834.

Al Macias thank you

sedition and to take part in a liberal conspiracy. widow and mother of two youngsters, she had been delacted for having just embroided the words law, freedom and equality on a flag and accused of taking part into a liberal conspiracy... since she had refused to denounce any supposed accomplice she was put to death

She was executed when they find a flag in her home and after her arrest, she refused to name her conspirators. They tried to fight again tyranny.

Trini Lopez sent me..

Murte sinbolisanlo negro

La muerte

Donald Trump

La muerte y la rebelion popular... seguro.

Era un símbolo de luto y entonces el luto por una persona ejecutada por motivos políticos era un desafío a la autoridad. Demostraban su respeto a Mariana y su desprecio a los verdugos.

Porque ella se negó a dar lis nombres de sus compañeros contrarios al rey.

Because the killing is turned into a ceremony.

She was of high class.

ella no era terrorista, ayudo a huir a un rebelde, pero en realidad eran fieles al gobierno legitimo y la constitución. El rey regreso a espana con ayuda de los franceses y lo jodio todo

She would have definitely taken it as an insult.

All women executed in movies are played by beautiful actresses - surely you must have noticed.

@@brianrodney5202 todos los que la conocieron coinciden en que Mariana Pineda era una mujer hermosa. Aunque le faltara un incisivo superior. Pero ella hubiera preferido morir a prostituirse con Fernando VII.

Następni będą klimatyści.

Elle a eté declaré d'avoir commis de trahisón contre le Roi d'Espagne.

Pronto. .

Ya en España se dejo la monarquía absoluta y la pena de muerto atual mente los reyes son solo gobernantes sin poder

Bollocks

El Ejecutacion no Tiene Justificación 😮

@@mariadelvillar3201 Nunca,en pasado ,por todas las partes del mundo había factos tan crueles....

Sono disgustato della pena

No, sólo curiosos.

That was not good for Humanity.what kind of crimes she had committee.