The epic conversations between Dubov and Magnus Carlsen before and after the game!

2023 ж. 28 Жел.
341 353 Рет қаралды

Daniil Dubov and Magnus Carlsen are good friends of each other. This is well known. Dubov has worked for Magnus as a second in his World Championship Matches in the past. When they were pitted against each other at the World Blitz Championships 2023, everyone was looking for a fighting game. But they not only treated the viewers with their chess moves, but also their conversations before and after the games!
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  • If you have a Wildr username, you are eligible for 1 month of free ChessBase Premium Account: wildr.chessbase.in/

    @ChessBaseIndiachannel@ChessBaseIndiachannel4 ай бұрын
    • IM ON WILDUR AND WER GONA REBOLUTIONIZE HOW SOCIAL MEDIA WORKS

      @charnielduterte3796@charnielduterte37964 ай бұрын
    • Hmm?

      @javierwilde8840@javierwilde88404 ай бұрын
  • Dubov was in Magnus' team for the world championship and they are good friends.

    @milahundepensiontaastrup-v9806@milahundepensiontaastrup-v98064 ай бұрын
  • For those who couldn’t hear: Dubov asks about Magnus’ points. Magnus goes over his score. Magnus jokes about everyone being there on time. Which leads to all the laughter after the arbiter announced another delay. Dubov then jokes to Nepo’s table about everyone drawing and getting fined for being late but now the tournament itself is running behind. Magnus and Dubov joke about everyone waiting and how awkward it is. At about 7:40 Dubov says he thinks it’s a draw. Carlsen agrees. They then talk about how Magnus would’ve won if they kept playing it out.

    @user-os3hh6sk3y@user-os3hh6sk3y4 ай бұрын
    • It's very strange.. that Dubov make to Magnus Win's all the games, sure that to Dubov send big amunt of dolars, more.. i think thats Nepo, Arionan are comprometed with theyrs, also its very strange. please i dont thinks that is a big complot tha involcred all the player elit

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yusephdiaz9215eEnglish, motherf*cker, do you speak it!?

      @sneakyvictorsneakyvictor7658@sneakyvictorsneakyvictor76584 ай бұрын
    • he doesn't "think" it is draw lol :D he "offers" a draw, and Magnus accepts.

      @TheAmanov@TheAmanov4 ай бұрын
    • Yup, and Magnus knew he would win the championship with the draw because he just needs half a point. So for him no point trying to eke out a win.

      @sunmeet@sunmeet4 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@yusephdiaz9215At the end of the game Dubov says that Magnus was in a better position for this reason he offered a draw. Guy is really really expensive in terms of mental energy play too mach games in the same day, i think pepole which dosen't play chess competion are so hard to understand it, inventing conspiracins which put Magnus at center. So in the lastes rounds there are a high number of draw offers, also beacuse you spent a lot of energy and bring you to grow the probability to do a blunders, so an esay draw was better for both players. This behavoiur is so human.

      @scoppato46@scoppato464 ай бұрын
  • these videos deserve subtitle

    @ajaykumar-ve5oq@ajaykumar-ve5oq4 ай бұрын
    • Forget deserves it needs

      @ishan1127@ishan11274 ай бұрын
    • Its always the same problem with chessbase india.

      @Michael-vwsl@Michael-vwsl18 күн бұрын
  • Ian is in love with Magnus. He kept trying to look at him while smiling

    @sebastianstanfield3061@sebastianstanfield30613 ай бұрын
  • A lot of whispering, but also a little bit of coughing. This is what chess content is made of.

    @markushornung7835@markushornung78354 ай бұрын
  • So epic I can't hear a fucking word they say

    @ExpiredToast11@ExpiredToast114 ай бұрын
  • First time I've actually seen chess players with a firm handshake

    @Loneshdo@Loneshdo4 ай бұрын
    • That's what you get from carrying your queen the whole freaking time... there's a horse my Lady, just so you know...

      @Yoda300YearsAgo@Yoda300YearsAgo3 ай бұрын
    • Dubov can do muscle-ups and Magnus is known sportsman. Bobby Fischer trained for strength so his opponent would feel it during hand shake

      @bekanav@bekanav3 ай бұрын
  • woww, really great whispering from world class players. what a sportive and playful whispering . made my day. really could feel the magensian magical whispering. dubov did great too.

    @venkatsaipadishala1916@venkatsaipadishala19164 ай бұрын
    • It's very strange.. that Dubov make to Magnus Win's all the games, sure that to Dubov send big amunt of dolars, more.. i think thats Nepo, Arionan are comprometed with theyrs, also its very strange. please i dont thinks that is a big complot tha involcred all the player elit

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yusephdiaz9215 What in lords name are you babbling on about?

      @sjay7292@sjay72924 ай бұрын
    • @@sjay7292 something about "that to", also amunt, dolars, someone called Arionan I suppose..? whoever the phuck that is. Something about "comprometing" -which I'm sure isn't a word- being strange. Then some probably indian illuminati nonsense that is obviously also spelled incorrectly making all of it a completely incoherent mess of letters. But I did try to do my best deciphering this babble.

      @eVieww@eVieww4 ай бұрын
    • @@yusephdiaz9215😂🤣🤣🤣 Go to docktor.

      @TheNordmo@TheNordmo4 ай бұрын
    • @@sjay7292 I was wondering the same thing, more curious than the elites' conversation around the boards LOL

      @jeffreyknapp945@jeffreyknapp9454 ай бұрын
  • Have never seen Nepo as relaxed

    @yankorusev@yankorusev4 ай бұрын
    • Yeah he looks happy.

      @IsomerSoma@IsomerSoma4 ай бұрын
  • these two are always so lovey dovey at world rapid and blitz

    @evesolis6133@evesolis61334 ай бұрын
    • Of course, beause Magnus send money to dubov

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
    • Dubov was part of Magnus' team for the world championship in classical, they are good friends.

      @andreidinu7316@andreidinu73164 ай бұрын
    • @@yusephdiaz9215 People like you commenting dumb shit like this don't deserve to see two legends like these playing against one another

      @SilenceOase@SilenceOase3 ай бұрын
  • 0:48 repeated it several times to watch every players reaction. somehow this is wholesome. nepo super relaxed, even there is magnus, and two seconds around him of the players who beat him in world championships 2 times in a row. I really wish him all the best for the next attempt, hopefully.

    @dmnbkr1256@dmnbkr12562 ай бұрын
  • And then you realize,they're in fact like a family.

    @wasekbillah8637@wasekbillah86374 ай бұрын
    • Of the cheaters

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
    • Go smoke a joint and chill. @@yusephdiaz9215

      @PPdabest@PPdabest4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yusephdiaz9215keep coping,anyone on that tournament is better than you. just because you got stuck in 1000 elo doesnt mean theyre cheating

      @acone2017@acone20174 ай бұрын
    • Lol relax your ass, it s just a joke ​@@acone2017

      @Volkodai03@Volkodai0319 күн бұрын
  • Oh lord, I never realized how loud the clocks are at those events

    @loudamir7390@loudamir73904 ай бұрын
  • *Magnus opens his mouth* Commentators: “LEGENDARYYY!!!!!!!”

    @Thesamurai1999@Thesamurai19994 ай бұрын
  • I love when they don't care about the tie guy just after the game.

    @jaucanillo@jaucanillo4 ай бұрын
    • "the tie guy" 😅 You mean the arbiter?

      @DexM47@DexM474 ай бұрын
    • The shy guys dont care about the tie guy 😂

      @dunebythenile@dunebythenile4 ай бұрын
    • That's called disrespect 😊

      @zialielmahdy@zialielmahdy4 ай бұрын
    • The arbiter is so rude. Clearly pushing them out, even grabbing some pieces. I find this really disrespectful. Imagine clearing Nadal and Federer’s bench as soon as they are done. Give them a minute, those are professionals.

      @ChefJorisLarigaldie@ChefJorisLarigaldie4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@DexM47 where he lives there are no ties, people don't use clothes there already.

      @LeonardoRflp@LeonardoRflp4 ай бұрын
  • Dubov played out of his mind, congrats

    @boohoohoohoo@boohoohoohoo4 ай бұрын
  • They should put subtitles :')

    @germanjesus214@germanjesus2144 ай бұрын
  • Magnus epic reaction

    @FCmobile_Boyz@FCmobile_Boyz4 ай бұрын
  • Nepo was like, maybe i can bring my chair and join them to have some fun meanwhile. :D

    @zdenekmatula550@zdenekmatula5504 ай бұрын
  • Rapport never fails to be handsome

    @ddenti99@ddenti994 ай бұрын
  • So Richard Rapport is also here😍.

    @Fahad_Ghani@Fahad_Ghani4 ай бұрын
  • this looked almost legit draw after lot of trades, but in next round Dubov and Nepo knight dance back to initial position - arbiters did not like it at all.They did not like 2-move draws and 9 move draws either, but let them stand as 0.5 points for each

    @stagna1959@stagna19594 ай бұрын
  • The median ELO of this frame is insanely high....

    @Niltimff7@Niltimff74 ай бұрын
  • Conversation so lit the it made Ian Nepo Jealous 😂

    @priestlyb908@priestlyb9084 ай бұрын
  • It bothered me so much that Magnus did not replace the dark Queen with the brown Queen to match the rest of his pieces...

    @wot_hog@wot_hog4 ай бұрын
  • You. An tell that dubov is someone that magnus respects

    @mp29940@mp299404 ай бұрын
  • The conversation and struggle between two Gigachads 🗿🍷🗿

    @dvrsth@dvrsth4 ай бұрын
  • Turn on the captions buttonon top right of video cuz we. Cuz we can hear them

    @isabellam1936@isabellam19364 ай бұрын
  • Epic conversations that no one could hear, and someone who wanted to interrupt them in the end. What to make of it?

    @mixchief@mixchief4 ай бұрын
  • Rapport looks like Count Dracula 😄

    @Sukasangrai@Sukasangrai4 ай бұрын
    • He is Dracula’s grand grand nephew

      @RigoMuniz@RigoMuniz4 ай бұрын
  • Powerfull attack

    @Fungkiso@Fungkiso4 ай бұрын
  • I thought you can not use left hand? I think i read it somewhere. Or, may be I was misread it.

    @JackySupit@JackySupit4 ай бұрын
  • Nepo was curious about their conversation

    @hellostranger2012@hellostranger20124 ай бұрын
  • Almost all chess players are really good guys. Of course, there are rivalries, but above all they are really good guys. 👍

    @gorangoran6335@gorangoran63352 ай бұрын
  • Engraçado é ver todos das outras mesas olhando para a mesa do Carlsen, com vontade de estar ali jogando contra ele.

    @AtlasMila@AtlasMila2 ай бұрын
  • does anyone know what chess set is being used here? I would really like to get my hands on it.

    @TheyCallMeNis@TheyCallMeNis3 ай бұрын
    • get out of town!@@sprookjestv4249

      @TheyCallMeNis@TheyCallMeNis2 ай бұрын
    • Looks like a digital board

      @mathildewesendonck7225@mathildewesendonck72252 ай бұрын
    • DGT Timeless Chess Pieces

      @bsmith5167@bsmith5167Ай бұрын
  • How epic….

    @qwut9544@qwut95444 ай бұрын
  • nepo low key has a crush on magnus

    @Yash42189@Yash421894 ай бұрын
  • Headphone users warning 8:25 LOL

    @thefart@thefart4 ай бұрын
  • OMG I'll go for Dubov

    @user-cv6yn2tl9c@user-cv6yn2tl9cАй бұрын
  • Duberov was sinerian upcomer

    @KienTrinh-oh1kd@KienTrinh-oh1kd2 ай бұрын
  • why did magnus give up in the end?

    @samson23723@samson237234 ай бұрын
  • Dubov: we are friends! Magnus: draw, ok 😅

    @andreizelchenko934@andreizelchenko9343 ай бұрын
  • 0:47 lol

    @rdsls100@rdsls1004 ай бұрын
    • Yeah... What is the announcement that makes everyone laugh?? I can't make it out...

      @oldhossradbourn5900@oldhossradbourn59004 ай бұрын
  • New to chess here, why does the referee guy put both kings in the middle like that after the finish? I noticed they both reset the entire board except the kings, which were still next to eachother in the middle. Just curious! Would appreciate a brief explanation. Thanks!

    @tj8606@tj86064 күн бұрын
    • The kings are placed on the square of the winning player's colour but if the game is a draw they are put on both colours. Here Magnus offered a draw and Dubov accepted so the kings are put on opposite coloured squares showing a draw.

      @wolfganghendery8298@wolfganghendery82983 күн бұрын
    • @@wolfganghendery8298 Thank you!

      @tj8606@tj86063 күн бұрын
  • how is magnus on the seat before the clock starts

    @samarthbhandavale9815@samarthbhandavale98154 ай бұрын
  • nepo wanted to be a part of the converstation XDDDD

    @dalimelki2971@dalimelki29713 ай бұрын
  • Where is the overlay screen Chessboard?

    @tagstagona3776@tagstagona37764 ай бұрын
    • What a casual

      @xs10z@xs10z2 ай бұрын
  • Amazing chess centure! So youung chess players amd both on the top so many years! Just remember the situation 30-50 years ago! What a grate time!

    @valentinklevanec9352@valentinklevanec93523 ай бұрын
  • 8:26 OMG I got scared 😂

    @marvik69@marvik694 ай бұрын
  • Been watching chess a few days now.. it seems to be mostly... opening theory... trade pieces to end game... and whoever has some attack that wasn't counter correctly wins?

    @lovetownsend@lovetownsend4 ай бұрын
    • Well that’s chess trying to attack correctly and counter correctly. They’re more prone to simplifying because the time control is shorter, less to worry about when you’re down to seconds. If you look at classical games there’s more intense calculations.

      @IamThatIsTwoMice@IamThatIsTwoMice4 ай бұрын
    • Blitz bro

      @MrTomsimoes@MrTomsimoes4 ай бұрын
    • if you are being HONEST??? you are some sort of GENIUS

      @rickdynes@rickdynes4 ай бұрын
  • Let's just remember we are here to have fun. (Right?) 😀

    @Qtrainer@Qtrainer4 ай бұрын
  • I like when my knights look straight ahead before and during game.

    @robertk8829@robertk88294 ай бұрын
    • For real. Doesn't Magnus know they need to see where they're going?

      @fritzlange7934@fritzlange79344 ай бұрын
    • I always keep my knights so they are directly looking at the king. If my opponent moves his king, when it's my turn, I'll go "j'adoube" and adjust my knights. I like to think my opponents find it annoying : )

      @xs10z@xs10z2 ай бұрын
  • Where has Sagar Shah been guys?? He should commentate every chess video period!

    @kdubjbass@kdubjbass4 ай бұрын
  • If anyone can writeascript to what they said. Their voices are very low , loud bavkground noise , thick accent and lost of mumbling

    @55555hello@55555hello4 ай бұрын
    • Sure buddy we got nothing better to do anyway

      @playermartin286@playermartin2864 ай бұрын
    • ​@@playermartin286lol

      @trevortheclever1733@trevortheclever17334 ай бұрын
    • Dubov: How you doing? Magnus: Fine, you? Dubov: Good. Have you heard about the appeal? Magnus: Yu Yangyi's? Yeah, I saw it. Crazy stuff. Dubov: Bruh. Magnus: Bruh. Dubov: Dinner still on after the games? Magnus: Sure.

      @gffg387@gffg3874 ай бұрын
  • Draw?

    @enricoforte5410@enricoforte54104 ай бұрын
  • lagrave the boss

    @badmice9657@badmice96574 ай бұрын
  • They all smile like little kids who get ice cream, so I assume chess is giving them some serious dopamine highs....😊

    @thomasmullee3049@thomasmullee30494 ай бұрын
  • they say he could easily sniff out his opponents next move

    @JaranBraco@JaranBracoАй бұрын
  • Could someone please explain how a game can be assumed to be drawn when there are so many pieces still left on the board? How can they both be certain that neither player will make some small mistake and give the game away?

    @owenjj93@owenjj935 күн бұрын
  • They're talking about how knights move

    @lord.d1_@lord.d1_2 ай бұрын
  • Funny 😂

    @NONSTOP_SO_1_VN@NONSTOP_SO_1_VN4 ай бұрын
  • I am FED UP with guys in ties INTRUDING on THE GOAT when he is making post game conversation with his opponent - the tie guys are beyond rude and intrusive treating these players as if they are cattle - and moving them along - I wish Magnus would tell tie guy "back off pal, i will signal you when you can approach" - let these brilliant players speak to one another and discuss the game they just played!

    @justinherbert9146@justinherbert91464 ай бұрын
    • It's their job and it doesn't matter if it's the GOAT or last place in the tournament everyone deserves the same treatment.

      @sebdenzil@sebdenzil4 ай бұрын
    • i can't tell if this is a joke

      @alanportela493@alanportela4933 ай бұрын
  • lol i move like groce when Dobov King g-2 befor sec he does xD

    @user-fm2tz9xg1y@user-fm2tz9xg1y3 ай бұрын
  • Какая приятная дружественнаая атмосфера. 😊

    @andrevadyaskin164@andrevadyaskin1643 ай бұрын
  • It's crazy how Dubov faced huge backlash for working with Magnus and going against Nepo. Seems like a dream now

    @kuhelihalder4058@kuhelihalder405820 күн бұрын
  • I dont even know what they saying but im laughing with them :D

    @toric5341@toric53414 ай бұрын
  • Magnus still being nice to nepo after this controversy its great...although am not a big supporter of magnus...still he has a clean heart...great....👍👍👍👍👍

    @Alchemist12345@Alchemist123454 ай бұрын
    • It was R10. Dubov played Nepo in R11

      @PogoninaNatalia@PogoninaNatalia4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@PogoninaNatalia he's talking about the private lounge

      @jalil7208@jalil72084 ай бұрын
    • It's very strange.. that Dubov make to Magnus Win's all the games, sure that to Dubov send big amunt of dolars, more.. i think thats Nepo, Arionan are comprometed with theyrs, also its very strange. please i dont thinks that is a big complot tha involcred all the player elit

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yusephdiaz9215my nigga what is you on about 😂

      @thabangphillime9570@thabangphillime95704 ай бұрын
    • I don't think Nepo has any issues with Magnus but with the organizers and FIDE instead.

      @doryphoros@doryphoros4 ай бұрын
  • Who is won first

    @devadasumendem6579@devadasumendem65794 ай бұрын
  • The Wizard of Moscow 😊😊😊😊

    @SemutHitamChannel@SemutHitamChannel4 ай бұрын
  • Epic conversations between Phineas and Syndrome (The Incredibles)

    @jinpoloperez6682@jinpoloperez66823 ай бұрын
  • Ian Nepomniatchi laughing from a million miles away.

    @nishusaif6085@nishusaif60854 ай бұрын
  • Im focus on dubov noise 🎉😮

    @user-fl6hq4wc8l@user-fl6hq4wc8l26 күн бұрын
  • a cara do nepo com ciume kjkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

    @pedrolucasrezende5355@pedrolucasrezende53553 ай бұрын
  • It's epic because you cannot hear it and you have to imagine what they're saying

    @RockClimberAlex@RockClimberAlex3 ай бұрын
    • ахахахахах top comment

      @user-gk6ge3vj7f@user-gk6ge3vj7f3 ай бұрын
  • Who is the winner

    @CalixAdrianneBuning-wv6ce@CalixAdrianneBuning-wv6ce4 ай бұрын
  • Dubov again with the $1500 Balenciaga sweater flex.

    @Hossflex@Hossflex4 ай бұрын
    • See them mostly for around 1000 and now theres a sale 900 but way to expensive , i bet it shrinks like crazy doesnt seem like real good quality .

      @AverageJoe1006@AverageJoe10064 ай бұрын
  • the arbiter standing there just getting ignored because he can't do anything to the best players in the world

    @prawnydagrate@prawnydagrate4 ай бұрын
  • My 2 favorite players. The most creative and the strongest player ever

    @trocchiettoski@trocchiettoski4 ай бұрын
    • I didnt see Bobby Fischer in this video...

      @GAMTT@GAMTT4 ай бұрын
    • @@GAMTT ehehe and Tal, is amazing how can be beautiful a game with such a not suprising amount of openings

      @trocchiettoski@trocchiettoski4 ай бұрын
    • @@GAMTT he's dead because magnus clapped his ass easily

      @mke344@mke3444 ай бұрын
  • 🤝

    @Debisadri24.12@Debisadri24.124 ай бұрын
  • his second...

    @asenciondivinagracia8881@asenciondivinagracia88814 ай бұрын
  • Pecatur tangguh

    @husnithamrin2187@husnithamrin21874 ай бұрын
  • 😂😂😂 at first I was sacred by seeing his nosr

    @ranjitroy4090@ranjitroy40904 ай бұрын
  • I would like to create a tournament where players can drink beer, smoke, play Crosby, Stills & Nash, and get penalised for being polite.

    @EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes@EponaDreams-AmbientDreamscapes2 ай бұрын
  • Who is Nepo playing? Anyone know?

    @adamkorekach9936@adamkorekach99362 ай бұрын
    • Richard Rapport

      @iahimadilab@iahimadilab26 күн бұрын
  • The strongest chess bromance we've had in awhile... It sounds like the talking about rizzing up Huns at the tournament

    @apelapatoff2386@apelapatoff23864 ай бұрын
    • It's very strange.. that Dubov make to Magnus Win's all the games, sure that to Dubov send big amunt of dolars, more.. i think thats Nepo, Arionan are comprometed with theyrs, also its very strange. please i dont thinks that is a big complot tha involcred all the player elit

      @yusephdiaz9215@yusephdiaz92154 ай бұрын
  • Интересно как Ян и Даниил на английском общаются

    @gamebox8537@gamebox85373 ай бұрын
  • Why was that a draw at 7:38? Magnus has played on for the win many times with much less material. Maybe Bobby Fischer was right, everything at top level is pre-arranged.

    @kewkabe@kewkabe4 ай бұрын
    • I saw another comment say that after they agreed to a draw they talked and ended up thinking Magnus would have actually won, yes. Not everything's a conspiracy. They're still human beings making decisions in the moment.

      @Glaedr11@Glaedr114 ай бұрын
  • Translation: "All those other moves we didn't play were just, meh, ok."

    @lucasnewman3186@lucasnewman31864 ай бұрын
  • Meskipun ga juara, terbukti duvob pecatur hebat

    @user-cg3vf3it1v@user-cg3vf3it1v18 күн бұрын
  • Yeah great conversation. Let me just find my babel fish, or Rosetta stone. I'll, just turn on captions...no, I'll just turn on auto-generate...no option. Hmm, I guess I'll read a bunch of comments till i find someone that gave a translation and hope they aren't joshing us not fluent in this language.

    @FreethinkingSecularist@FreethinkingSecularist4 ай бұрын
  • Why do none of these games include the computer chess board? I can't watch them like this

    @lukebrady65@lukebrady654 ай бұрын
  • (7:13) После К:d5 и К:f6 играть на победу могли только белые.

    @andrewt8859@andrewt88594 ай бұрын
  • if u can understand 1 sentence u are superman

    @robz537@robz5375 күн бұрын
  • who won the game? dubov?

    @andreandre2230@andreandre2230Күн бұрын
  • Так, а кто выиграл-то?

    @user-xi3tj8od8s@user-xi3tj8od8s4 ай бұрын
    • dubov

      @71lupenzo710@71lupenzo7104 ай бұрын
  • I think your spell check is glitching "epic" from "yawnarama" or whatever word you used for the barely audible mundanity herein.

    @groveman1852@groveman18523 ай бұрын
  • İs the match draw

    @apexlegends1555@apexlegends15553 ай бұрын
  • Who won?

    @munch314@munch3144 ай бұрын
    • Draw

      @teslaa108@teslaa1084 ай бұрын
    • @@HellSword-qt9thhe won

      @iNFaunTae@iNFaunTae4 ай бұрын
    • @@iNFaunTae no it's a draw

      @teslaa108@teslaa1084 ай бұрын
    • @@HellSword-qt9th draw

      @teslaa108@teslaa1084 ай бұрын
    • You can tell by how they place the kings in the center right after the game. If both kings on black square black won. If both Kings on white square white won. If each king stands on thier regular color, as it was in this game it's a draw.

      @Sa_tycker_jag@Sa_tycker_jag4 ай бұрын
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