Remco Evenepoel Strange Decision GIFTS GC Lead Away | Paris-Nice 2024 Stage 4
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I am so happy to see Bernal this strong ;)
It's so good, man. Seeing him performing like this again is what we all hoped for, but secretly feared would never come to pass :')
He is flying for early season forum 😁
3:01 "Plapp comes back, just been chillin' mid pack, back of the pack" Patrick spitting bars 🔥
Remco rides the hardest of anyone, just usually at the wrong time.
As Eric Morecambe said, “I play all the right notes just not necessarily in the right order”.
Accurate assessment
This is why I think Remco in the tour means advantage Pogi
@@StufferburgPogacar is totally different class to Remco currently lets be real. No evidence that Remco can keep with TP or JV in the long mountain stages.
@@2011hwalker I meant that as to say there are many times when Pogi actually wanted Jonas to work with him going off the front, like stage 1 and 2 last year TDF and Jonas looked at him and said “no way!” Whereas Remco would gladly work with Pogi and get whooped in a sprint. Remco being a wildcard in the tour is an advantage to Pogi overall in my opinion
This stage was so weird roglic dropping at the end Remco giving free seconds away none of the big teams attacked and plapp taking yellow for free
Free seconds away where
@@animetributes6996 could’ve easily attacked across to plapp but decided not to
These reviews are the best thing in the whole cycling media!
this channel and Chris Horner, iykyk
Y'all sleeping on the pod?
Nice to see the under appreciated riders taking the race! Nothing is given to the big names.
1:23 When a souvenir Tour De France 2016 Bell does its own Time Trial, while time traveling!
Yep
Wild stage. I imagine the Quickstep bus wasn't a lot of fun afterwards.
the Quickstep bus is never fun when you have to ride with Remco, he keeps on whining
@@abbotbusoni4311winning*
You mean winning right 😊 Remco is still the biggest winner of all the GC guys today. @@abbotbusoni4311
@@abbotbusoni4311 lol I'm for Remco but have to agree 😂
No bus was fun last night, they all like how are we gonna take those seconds from these 2???
hey guys, love the Pod. Just a suggestion. You guy often make predictions the day before a race, stage or an entire stage race, and it would be great if you could cite, maybe right before the profiling of the route, if your prediction from the day before came true. Would be curious how you guys do and I often can't check myself because I am riding while listening, or doing dishes, driving, etc. That would be great.
Don't know why but watching this stage reminded me that Pogi and Jonas are still on another level even compared to Remco and Roglic. There is no world where Pogi doesn't, if he was here, win this stage, and Jonas would have surely won too.Also I've got no idea why Remco is so brutally conservative in stage races nowadays. Yes he might not have had it today but still he should have just tried on the second to last climb or even before that.
Honestly I think this was Remco trying his hardest. If you look back at other stages this season he has no steam compared to many other riders that are not expected to win the TdF. His actions as of now were rather average, its just his own talking that always suggests he is a potential tour winner...
Think the answer is pressure. Nobody will complain if a one day race rally doesn't work. But in stage race, it can have dramatic consequences, and everyone will give him shit for free like during his first giro.
@@endautrestermes That is his own fault. The man always has a big mouth. Yeah offcourse people are going to pressure him.. People are like: Oke lets show where that arrogance is coming from then. I think he is a good rider and if you see his palmares on his age its very nice. But Remco is as a person.. nah way to arrogant. And the stream of excusses when someone is better, becomes also really annoying.
@@userbrytje008 That's besides the point. Was trying to figure out why the difference between GC and classics, not why people hate him. Arrogance and hate are both weaknesses btw.
Quickstep media folks need to shield Remco until his HR is below 80.
Naah let him talk, always fun to listen to 😂 who wants them bland interviews anyways
Solid analysis as always
"A talented GC talent" - LR
Very nice review. Strange stage. Love to see Egan back so strong.
Yours are the best cycling recaps I have ever seen!
what a crazy race this is turning out to be. Looks like it is Remco's race to lose, but with that said, he can certainly find a way to lose it.
Well described. Thank you.
M.Skjeldmose having a good day, after Catastrophic team trial! That was too Costly! Remco and Roglic?? Open Paris-Nice😜🔝❤️
love the editing here ... video footage cuts to still shots crossing the finish line etc ... that Remco glance 🤣👍
youtube Cycling Pro Net has a nice post-stage interview with Remco for this one
Enter The Plapp!! Great ride 😁
It seemed as though QS & Remco possibly knew that Remco was not on a great day, thus they thought that UAE would take care of keeping the stage together for everyone while defending the leaders jersey. If I assume that Remco was not on a great day, then my bigger question was why was UAE not doing more to defend the jersey? It seems ridiculous to think that UAE were just sitting there thinking that Remco would eventually blast-off at some point.... I definitely agree with Patrick that the way that this stage played-out was perplexing.
Why should UAE? - they don’t have any of the top favourites. Plapp and Buitrago are more active threats to ineos, bora and quickstep who all have more numbers than UAE in the final. Not to mention Almeida and McNulty lost about about ten seconds to Remco on the final climb so maybe weren’t feeling good (climbs don’t really suit them either).
But he looked really good when he attacked?
@@rossbroomfield5199Teams usually try to defend their leaders jersey. Even if the leader isnt even an GC rider. Thats just how the Sport usually works. Also guys like Plapp or Buitrago are direct concurrents of the UAE guys even if Remco and Roglic are on an different level.
@@adrianbuck8772 It is Remco and Primos that are expected to win. UAE can do nothing and make the other teams work if they want to win. UAE had no reason to be out front and defend their jersey...
@@jaycahow4667 It only helps them winning if Remco/Roglic pulling themselve and therefore spend more energy or if their have to spend their Team chasing and being isolated mean UAE could roll attacks. But none of that happened. Which makes sense given that the Situation was less than 30 Kilometer away from the Finish and both guys still had still some teammates near them. In terms of them beating Remco and Roglic the stage did nothing. In terms of getting the highest possible GC result they gifted Plapp and Buitrago some time.
Anybody read the bell? That was a 2016 Bell from the tour de France. Kind of interesting.
first great to have these short breakdowns back keep it up man😃
5:32 They are using the new TCR?
thx ❤
I don’t think Remco had his usual legs today. Normally he would of attacked further out from the finish line or even attempted to go solo. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wins the gc but wouldn’t be surprised if he drops badly on one of the mountain stages
Props to Plapp and Buitrago. You've got to think if Pogi was here he'd be running circles around this GC field - his race-craft is a different level.
Both Jonas and Tadej would eat these guys for breakfast. The odds for who'll win the Tour de France actually shifted quite drastically after this stage. The bookmakers decided that both Remco and Roglic are less likely now to beat Jonas and Tadej.
@@Soli11 His drug intake is on a different level.
Pogacar has not won a Grand Tour in 3 years, he has completely crumbled in the Tour de France 2 years in a row. In fact in 3 years he has only won 2 noteworthy stage races, Roiglic has won 7 in the same time.
@@animetributes6996 How many of the stage races he has ridden has he won in the same amount of time though? That’s the better statistic to use. Roglic has won GTs and one-week races because currently the best two GC riders did not challenge him. In 2022, Jonas was still doing domestique work for Roglic. The races where Roglic beat Pogacar was mainly due to him being able to team up with Vingegaard and attack with two leaders.
@@animetributes6996 The point is that Pogi's race-craft (consistently demonstrated in one day races and stage races) is much higher than the field here. Roglics stats in GC versus Pogi have limited relevance because because (1) they have inherently different race calendars, Roglic preferencing stage races whilst Pogi mixing in one-days (2) Pogi has actually finished ahead of Roglic in more races when they've both started (3) Roglic has demonstrated less race IQ than Pogacar, and Pogacar having a better one-day record (in which race-craft makes a bigger difference). Finally, Pogi lost the last two TDF based on climbing performance vs Jonas.
Egan Bernal is Back !!!
Looking at GC times it isn't Remco that is gifting GC away, at least it seems like they are doing it (Team+Remco) in a more manageable fashion compared to the failures of last year.
It seams that riders no longer have any ability to think on the road. If you feel good - attack, if you don’t - sit in. Otherwise, wait for the team car to tell you what to do.
THIS!!! A bunch of robots who no longer have race instincts. Blame it on a culture of data training versus actual race tactic training. It's all about timing your efforts these days in the form of watts per kilo.
@@creativeclecticnonsense
Bernal is so close come on man!
Yay plapp!
I'm trying to understand what UAE are doing in this race.
Same as they did in Tour of Emirates 😂
No "C'mon Luke" shoutout? :) Strange stage indeed. May I say even team antics all over.
Where is the Strade Biance video?
Missed today, came here to see wtf happened....What a wild day! Great breakdown as usual, beauty throw by skjelmose
It seemed way too orchestrated by remco to be a mistake because he was so calm when he let Plapp go. In my opinion they let him go and expected UAE to chase because they are currently so in control of GC and if they chased remco could just sit in behind the yellow jersey's train. Also they are only halfway through the 8 days so if remco takes yellow now he will have a target on his back with UAE's superteam and 3 leaders to control him and stop him for the next 4 GC heavy days.
@ 4:04 "Hey Louis! You're leading out THE WRONG GUY!" That was hilarious, Sir! 🤣 One of the many reason why LR is so darn good! 👍 Great to see Plapp taking a rare opportunity! Superb riding - deserved the Yellow! 😁 M 🦘\🏏😎
Waiting for the Tirreno-Adriatico video where you dunk on everybody for picking Bauhaus 😂
The only way to explain the tactics has to be some sort of meta season planning, in the sense of not giving too much energy too early in the season, right? Otherwise what Bora and Quick Step did makes no sense.
Remco sometimes rides like a stopwatch rider , picking up bonus seconds etc , other teams should realise it means he is not on a good day...and attack like hell
Matteo is a beast
Remco thought he had got third 😆
Remco is The young Roglic. Prove me wrong
Wrong….Roglic was never as arrogant or disliked as Remco.
Bernal beat Roglic 😱😱😱
It's interesting that when the women had weird racing strategy last year, everyone was having a go at them, but this stage and a few other men's races this year have also been weird race strategy and no one bats an eyelid... 🤷 Just Remco being normal, Roglic still working into form... plus a multitude of other 'reasons' (excuses)... 😏
So sorry liddle was shit on team trial skjeldmose would have been up there otherwise , but he probe je can be there beating rog and remco
Why is Nils Politt still missing his german stripes on the sleeves ffs
At Ineos they keep a rider in check and not do stupid things like Plapp did today. Good for him that he went to Jayco.
Remco is still playing football in his head.
This was just weird to watch. Dont know at all what to expect for the rest of the Week
The was not reason for Ineos to chase after Buitrago, they should leave Soudal to chase since the stronger ride is Remco.
REMCO SHOULD BE A GREATEST ONE DAY to WEEK LONG RACER. I AM CAMPAIGNING FOR KEEPING REMCO OUT OF GRAND TOURS. MAKING HIM LEAN AND DOING 7H CLIMBS KILLS HIM.
I think he might transition in 2-3 years if he's not successful in his TdF bid. I can't imagine him battling for a TdF podium years after year, he has too much of a winning mentality.
Skjelmose looked amazing today, too bad his team screwed him in the ttt
3:03 plapp memoji 😂
Remco is burning matches and making the same sort of mistake that gave Kuss the Vuelta. Not saying that Plapp can necessarily win this, but Remco should know that full gas sprinting for 6 and 0 bonus seconds is not the way to win stage races... Meanwhile Roglic is calmly biding his time and saving his legs just like he did to win every stage race he lined up for last season save the Vuelta... This weekend in cold weather will be fun!
Remco wasn't burning matches. He did exactly the opposite today! Remco burning matches = attacking from at least 30K out like Plapp did.
Remco was defensive. I like Roglic but he looked weak today, he is 40 seconds behind Remco - assuming the other stages go ahead he has peak Vingy or pogi level numbers putting 40 seconds into Remco is going to be near impossible on one stage. If he was strong he would at least have tried something at the end of today - and given bora pacing was probably the plan but it didn’t work out.
Mate, I like Roglic but in no way was he "biding his time" today. He went for the first spring and got comfortably beat by Remco, and he would never allow a gap like that open on the finish of the last climb - a climb that's usually his bread and butter - unless he had no choice. He just didn't have great legs today.,
What a weird, weird stage.
Here Evenepoel seems to say he thought Plapp had been caught: kzhead.info/sun/kracgcZ6gZqAdok/bejne.htmlsi=B1nNRE0zOSUMIA7v
Really not hating here, but Remcos racing is sooo average. His interviews always suggest he is one step ahead of everyone, but this season he is lacking on all ends 😅 i dont see a real competition for Pogi or Vingegaard there...
Plenty of people are smiling with Gaudu´s performance. Karma others may say.
Remco has'nt learn anything lol
His arrogant look as he got beat out for third.. Priceless.
No, didn't you hear Remco it was (insert something here) fault. (This time he said it was UAEs fault)
It was UAE's jersey to defend. Like the last 100 years of stage race cycling. UAE doesn't have riders that will gain time in the next stages, so if they want to keep GC, they have to defend and ride (and sacrifice 1-2 of their 4 riders in GC).
@@l.d.t.6327 Nope. You don't defend if you feel like you are weaker on the stage. Why make it harder and lose more time.
It's an unwritten rule that who is leading gc has to defend so you can see why remco complained@@letsgetbusychild
@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 yes, because he always has an excuse.
@@letsgetbusychild You're implying that Remco should feel like he is the strongest, but maybe he didn't feel that way. It wasn't up to him to make his team work after Bora pulled so hard and UAE had the numbers. The fact they didn't control Plapp and Buitrago, is something Remco regrets by now, but at least for him, given his small time gaps to those riders, it should be possible to reel them in, even with time bonuses only if he can't drop them. Who knows that won't even happen, but at least Remco has a better position than most of his GC competitors that really have to create gaps in order to win GC.
This stage does not inspire a lot of confidence in Roglic's chances. It may be possible that the didn't burn any matches here on purpose, but this kind of finish was often where he opened up a sizeable gap. Maybe Roglic will now drift down into mediocrity after leaving his old team.
Things are sure easier with the likes of Kuss or Van Aert as superdomestique, as opposed to average domestique dropping early.
@@endautrestermes I was thinking more about his individual performance level but sure, the domestique situation doesn't help. But I understand his move - there simply wasn't space for him in Jonas's shadow. Changing teams was his only chance for another stab at the tour.
weirdest stage so far
LR u got to stop glazing Remco
I think Gall wins this race if there was one proper mountain stage.
Remco is thinking like a cc rider at times.
I don’t understand why Remco isn’t a Tour GC main character
He's the biggest podium contender after Pogi & Vingegaard
@@ikbenwelthuis Bernal
He is definitely a podium challenger, but I think people still have it fresh in their minds that he completely bonked out of the GC in the last GT he rode.
@@ikbenwelthuis yet hasn’t had 1 start at Le Tour
@birdbro1990 Pogacar won it on his debut. Why can't Remco podium on his debut?
10 minutes gang
plappyyy
ROGLA not even in Top10...is weird.
Remco isn't the sharpest nail in the bucket. Strong but needs to quit thinking he is the tactical genius
Wasn’t a decision. Didn’t have it in him
Surprise surprise Roglic sat on and did jack all. Such a passenger. I suppose he has gone 3 days in a row without crashing that must be a new record for him.
Gifting a GC lead is Paris Too-Nice
@ 0:28 Manny Pacquiao
Remco never mistaken for a smart rider.
Roglic is chilling. He knows he will win and doesn't waste energy on useless attacks for a few seconds😮
There's no difference in the effort Roglic gave and what the other GC favorites gave in the last 500m, if he was strong enough to win the sprint for 3rd he ABSOLUTELY would have
Roglic will never attacking like Plapp or Buitrago. Group of GC was losing time at the final climb to Santiago because he was faster then Wilder, simple.
Nah, this had Roglic written all over it. He simply didn’t have what it took.
What? He clearly didn't have the legs today, and barring a miracle he's not winning this race. He's way behind after the TTT, and depending on the weather saturday there's like 1 or at most 2 stages left where he can make any sort of GC difference. You think he's just going to give away seconds on a finish that's usually his bread and butter? No.
He was criticising UAE for not catching the two riders in front, so I very much doubt that he sat back and just allowed them to go.
Roglic, as most of the times, doing absolutely nothing.
Pogi is far better than Primoz
we're going to have yet another race ruined by overzealous nagging weather haters
🦘That would be so awesome if Plapp wins GC 🇦🇺
Go Plapp 🇦🇺🦘