Settling woodworking's biggest controversy: EPOXY

2023 ж. 17 Мау.
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    @Lincolnstww@Lincolnstww11 ай бұрын
    • A real sponsorship! Path to youtuber looking strong!!

      @Leqi@Leqi11 ай бұрын
    • 0:10

      @Nhansomnang@Nhansomnang11 ай бұрын
    • Talking crap about somebody else's creation or art form is just a low life thing to do, there's nothing wrong with using epoxy !!!!! You are sad and pathetic. Thumbs down and no subscribe 👎👎

      @jonny555ive@jonny555ive10 ай бұрын
    • Hey there, I heard you mention Upstate South Carolina. Would you be interested in stopping by a career center and working with some students?

      @TheOldFatDadGoober@TheOldFatDadGoober10 ай бұрын
    • @@TheOldFatDadGoober send me an email

      @Lincolnstww@Lincolnstww9 ай бұрын
  • What an epic ending! I think if it were your table, I'd vote for the spider base. But for your parents, it has to be the base that your mom used to love that you then chopped up for your own purposes to provide a gift to your mother of something that was already hers. 😂😂 But man alive, did that turn out looking GREAT! Well done!

    @hansangb@hansangb11 ай бұрын
    • Cliff hanger ending! 😂

      @rmTheWalrus@rmTheWalrus4 ай бұрын
  • You know you are in trouble when you are called by your "given name". Great build, great video.

    @davidmeyer9204@davidmeyer920411 ай бұрын
    • If you hear all 3 names you know you ain't getting out of your room "until Jesus comes back." 🤣

      @demontekdigital1704@demontekdigital170411 ай бұрын
    • Jonathan!

      @Osiwan960@Osiwan96011 ай бұрын
    • Do you really think that little part wasn't rehearsed?

      @OneTequilaTwoTequila@OneTequilaTwoTequila6 ай бұрын
  • Your Mom at the end! Priceless! Thank you for sharing all your efforts with honest commentary.

    @pjwhalen5104@pjwhalen510411 ай бұрын
  • The old table base for sure in my opinion. the spider legs looked cool as heck to be sure, but I really liked how it all came together with the updated 'vintage' legs. Great work!

    @BricktowneMedia@BricktowneMedia10 ай бұрын
  • I think we'll all benefit from a supportive community without gatekeeping! I think you made a great looking table even though it's not my personal taste. I don't feel the need to trash talk it because I wouldn't want it in my living room, I'm happy that people enjoy different things as long as they have something that brings them joy.

    @RunarMagnussen@RunarMagnussen11 ай бұрын
  • Great video, even better ending!! As a maker, not a woodworker, I'm kinda tired of anyone emphasizing how a real (fill-in-the-blank) creator would do something. Personally, I'm just delighted if anyone is creating anything. The act of creation, however it's done, is what I respect.

    @jothammcmillan8854@jothammcmillan885411 ай бұрын
  • That first table base looks like a Czech hedgehog. Flip the table over and you could stop tanks and trucks in their path. LOL

    @michaelsennett7540@michaelsennett754011 ай бұрын
  • I think the spyder base looks really cool and if you were doing this for a commisioned / production work absolutely the way to go. However, considering the circumstances you made the right call. Finding a way to give your parents a new table, sharing your skills while still incorporating a piece of their history will make it even more special and memorable down the line.

    @chrisbrannan3784@chrisbrannan378411 ай бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @Lincolnstww@Lincolnstww11 ай бұрын
  • Dude went fishing in the pond for an actual woodworking video. Well done!

    @WoodcraftBySuman@WoodcraftBySuman11 ай бұрын
  • Love seeing you and Matt work together. It turned out stunning. Both bases are awesome but I think my vote would go to the reconditioned one if it going to be used as a dining table. Less banging of the knees. 😉

    @gbjones54@gbjones5411 ай бұрын
    • right? I concur...I looked at those spider legs and thought, ok but where do I put my legs? lol

      @BricktowneMedia@BricktowneMedia10 ай бұрын
  • She didn't break out your middle name, so we probably can assume you're not in too much trouble.

    @robertlee1977@robertlee19773 ай бұрын
  • When epoxy is as expensive as it is there's a case to be made for filling the voids partially with other materials and leaving the epoxy for a thinner visible portion only. Obviously this only applies for more opaque epoxy color choices, transparent or semi-transparent colors may benefit from being an all epoxy pour for aesthetic reasons.

    @msytdc1577@msytdc157711 ай бұрын
    • There’s a case to be made for throwing filler into anything lol. Cement is dirt cheap but I know guys that throw trash, leftover nails and broken masonry into every pour they make. It’s just fun I guess

      @ourtube4266@ourtube42665 ай бұрын
  • M2 lumber is awesome. Great selection and pricing. I love that the lumber is local and professionally kiln dried

    @bryancannon631@bryancannon63111 ай бұрын
  • 'Learn to compromise' is a good lesson to learn.

    @virtuous-sloth@virtuous-sloth10 ай бұрын
    • Watching Jon snack on walnuts while sanding pecan.

      @virtuous-sloth@virtuous-sloth10 ай бұрын
  • How cool is that, making a river table with Ron Howard!!!

    @mikegorski9723@mikegorski972311 ай бұрын
  • It was honestly so worth watching till the end to get your mother's response!! That was priceless, and I couldn't stop laughing for an hour....hahaha. Great project, loved all the aspects that you pointed out concerning the process.

    @paulm.campbellii7516@paulm.campbellii751610 ай бұрын
  • How dare you leave us with a cliffhanger.. I almost got a heart attack from that ending.. good thing I have life insurance from policygenius

    @ycmakes@ycmakes11 ай бұрын
  • That is one gorgeous chunk o wood Cam is a great one to watch for these too. You are proud, I'm sure. The original base looks absolutely great with that table

    @pmdinaz@pmdinaz11 ай бұрын
  • Cool video. I have a lot more respect for these tables and the people that make them after watching the arduous process of creating one. I'm also surprised to say I like the base you made from your parents original dining table better than the metal base. Cheers!

    @T_Jonesy@T_Jonesy11 ай бұрын
  • I really love your videos, how much down to earth are they and the fun. Matt is also a gem. Thanks for the show!

    @seggremalac@seggremalac11 ай бұрын
  • This is THE MOST ENTERTAINING woodworking channel on you tube!!!!

    @MrAnimal1971@MrAnimal197111 ай бұрын
  • Loved this video, it is destined to be one of your “ classics “. The end is priceless. Oh and the table looks amazing!!! Great work👌

    @albertm8576@albertm857611 ай бұрын
  • I've said it before, and I'll say it again, you are currently making the best woodworkering, or in this case, wood-and-plastic working videos on youtube. Keep it up man! I'm looking forward to the wood finish video and the mitersaw station video.

    @jamesburton6661@jamesburton666111 ай бұрын
    • I think the videos are out already

      @wesleychen4408@wesleychen440811 ай бұрын
  • Ah man, the way this video ends.. LOL. SO glad you decided to go all in on KZhead.

    @RobDucharme@RobDucharme11 ай бұрын
    • That was the best part of the video!

      @MG-bv1vl@MG-bv1vl11 ай бұрын
  • Cool project. I like the repurposed base better. Thank for sharing.

    @brendanlangord1687@brendanlangord168711 ай бұрын
  • I think the pecan with the deep black accents looks really nice, and both bases look great under it. I'm an old, so if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the upcycled base, mainly because it just looks more traditional. Happy Father's Day!

    @JimHester@JimHester11 ай бұрын
  • My favorite part? When you opened the drawer to get the Drumel. I have a drawer just like that.🤣 Loved the ending!!!!

    @jraglob5924@jraglob592410 ай бұрын
  • Table looks great, video is awesome, you and Matt click well!! Thanks for the opportunity to assist!!

    @christopherhonnen2250@christopherhonnen225011 ай бұрын
  • This is fantastic adaptation of the existing table base. That's how I got my start in woodworking, just making furniture for my family.

    @dottyjyoung@dottyjyoung11 ай бұрын
  • I can’t believe Blacktail Studio didn’t show you his one of a kind, groundbreaking, earth shattering techniques.

    @appalachianpunk@appalachianpunk11 ай бұрын
  • I love your open and honest approach, and the way you include all the hiccups along the way. The end result is a beautiful piece of furniture, one of the best I've seen. The black really compliments the wood finish. I prefer the remodelled base.....because it looks stylish and involved woodworking. Cheers from across the pond.

    @bikingmagoosy1173@bikingmagoosy117311 ай бұрын
  • Option 2! Your mom's reaction was priceless, I hope she likes it. I think you did something spectacular and once she sees it will enjoy it for many more years to come. The metal bases are nice, but they are beginning to feel played out.

    @KipringPayne@KipringPayne11 ай бұрын
    • If you want to get really zany, take that modern base and put in on the original top after some restoration work.

      @jimh472@jimh47211 ай бұрын
  • All epoxy thoughts aside, the final product looks great, and for most people who don't spend hours out of their week watching woodworking videos on youtube, that's what matters most so well done! I'm torn on the bases, both honestly look good to me.

    @kellenholt6655@kellenholt665511 ай бұрын
  • Chef’s Kiss for the use and placement if that Happy Gilmore clip. I literally laughed out loud 🤣

    @smxaviermelendez9210@smxaviermelendez921011 ай бұрын
  • Easily one of your best videos to date. Loved every moment of this. Thank you for all the work you put into your content. Inspiring and hilarious. Bravo!

    @danobluda3407@danobluda340711 ай бұрын
  • That table is sick!!! Great work!!

    @kevinbetts6254@kevinbetts625411 ай бұрын
  • Woodwork or not this video is great entertainment - Well done on a great project!

    @paultolman2832@paultolman283211 ай бұрын
  • Great video mate. I think the the fact you pointed out how long the prep time is for finish was great. I think a lot of other KZheadrs skip those details out, which really helps the Maker Community out. Again, loved the video and the table is sensational!

    @kjh_woodworking@kjh_woodworking11 ай бұрын
  • Had no idea we were going to get a lesson in Integral Calculus like we got at 9:00. That was sum good content right there.

    @intrepidus3378@intrepidus337811 ай бұрын
  • I agree….river tables are not my favorite, I would never choose to buy one, but I can appreciate the work that goes into them..!!!

    @patrickgreen9747@patrickgreen974711 ай бұрын
  • you guys both have a natural presence on camera, great job!

    @joshmagrum3552@joshmagrum355211 ай бұрын
  • Matt was great! Good camera presence and very clear when explaining

    @darthrevanakc@darthrevanakc11 ай бұрын
  • Here for the algorithm. And to cast my vote for mom's favorite table base. Definitely option #2.

    @coreyghayes@coreyghayes11 ай бұрын
  • Not a fan of river tables but that pecan is beautiful! Nice work sir.

    @darrelduke@darrelduke11 ай бұрын
  • Love the ending! HA HA HA HA!!!

    @Erik_The_Viking@Erik_The_Viking11 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for this video! I have been wondering what the anti-river table crowd truly had issues with. The “maker” in us I think is what brings us together, and I was so glad to see you reusing the old base (woodworking). To me (none domino owner) I always feel that the domino is cheating at woodworking, but then I just suffered through making two bedside tables with 36 mortise and tenon joints each. Maybe I’m just jealous; after all I had no problem using my jointer and plainer instead of Han plains. Respect for the Makers!

    @MLSteffel@MLSteffel11 ай бұрын
    • I agree, and even John has a hard time getting past digs at the epoxy crowd many times in this video. Epoxy is just another medium to mix with wood. Do those who grouse about it or even question if it is woodworking say the same about those who use manufactured metal legs like he proposed in this same video? It is another non-wood substance that in this case is actually replacing the wood entirely whereas the epoxy is united with the wood in the project. Your point about the domino is just as valid, planers too. We can all come at these things from a certain perspective. And I will admit, I sometimes have a hard time with the CNC crowd, but I also know how much time and effort goes into programming and setting it up, so I cannot say it isn't "making" just because a machine did it. Again, I have a power machine for making wood flat, a hand plane is a more primitive machine for making wood flat. A CNC is an even more powerful tool than I have that can . . . make wood flat and more. I would love to hear an actual argument (critical points backed with evidence, not mere ranting) from those who claim that river tables aren't woodworking.

      @jasonwebb3848@jasonwebb3848Ай бұрын
  • Love the spider base. Much nicer sitting without hitting legs and the angles give you a place to put your feet :) Nice table :)

    @DamianDArienzo@DamianDArienzo11 ай бұрын
    • 💯

      @alexsharypov9844@alexsharypov984411 ай бұрын
  • Love your humour your hard work and your willingness to try new things. Looks great 👍🏻

    @einsteinbpc@einsteinbpc11 ай бұрын
  • I love the end of the video. You should more like that, little things that not many people do sometimes add up better.

    @Bugnarok@Bugnarok11 ай бұрын
  • Your Mom's reaction: Priceless! I am still laughing :)

    @MsRmaclaren@MsRmaclaren11 ай бұрын
  • One of the best endings to a wood working video. Brilliant

    @braincraven@braincraven11 ай бұрын
  • Woodworking (and/or epoxy river table) videos need more twist endings like this. Thoroughly entertaining. Even though you've scared me from ever trying to make one of these myself.

    @TeeVeeGames@TeeVeeGames11 ай бұрын
  • Lol that was great especially your mom at the end 😊

    @reddevilsuperstar@reddevilsuperstar11 ай бұрын
  • I actually like your modified base. Seems more appropriate for the table and the room.

    @bc.cadguy6048@bc.cadguy604811 ай бұрын
  • I love your channel, and this build was amazing. I prefer the base from your parents' old table. It looks simple, elegant and highlights the tabletop. Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us.

    @lupenielsen@lupenielsen11 ай бұрын
  • M2 is great. Good guy, also presented at our Greenville Woodworkers Guild a while back.

    @roklemnok@roklemnok11 ай бұрын
  • Nice build. I like the up-cycled base better personally and thought you did a great job on it. Planning a slab/epoxy table for our kitchen and will have same challenge as you having a small one man shop.

    @tjwaggoner1@tjwaggoner111 ай бұрын
  • Great build John.... Love how you repurposed the old legs.... Keep up the good work!

    @BobBrittonBespoke@BobBrittonBespoke11 ай бұрын
  • I don't particularly want to make one myself, but it was fun watching you make yours.

    @ropable@ropable11 ай бұрын
  • The repurposed table legs look great! Well done on the entire project!

    @randyhunt3272@randyhunt327211 ай бұрын
  • The ending is epic! When we heard your mom say your full name, I think most of us recognized that sound of surprise and possibly disappointment and could all relate. Hilarious! Also, the table turned out really great. I'm not a huge fan of river tables in general, but this one looked really beautiful and I guess I would probably be happy to have it in my home. But not for $3000. That's just crazy talk.

    @atreynolds@atreynolds11 ай бұрын
    • At least he didn't get "three named". LOL

      @wayneosteen1539@wayneosteen153911 ай бұрын
    • Hang on! I thought she was just acting.

      @nowthenad3286@nowthenad328611 ай бұрын
  • What a great post!! I really like the older base. I always look forward to a new video from you. Always wanted to do a river table but probably never will.

    @markglabinski526@markglabinski52611 ай бұрын
  • That was phenomenal. May be the first table of that style that I can really say. I loved It

    @jameslogan1153@jameslogan11539 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @Lincolnstww@Lincolnstww9 ай бұрын
  • Great job man, I really enjoyed this(especially since I wasn’t doing the sanding). I like your repurposed base better.

    @keithbrock6410@keithbrock641011 ай бұрын
  • Tossing a vote in for spider base. This was a fun ride!

    @adevans67@adevans6711 ай бұрын
  • Im from York County SC. Didnt know we have a mill in the upstate. That's awesome! Definitely earned my subscription & support.

    @brentjenkinsdesigns@brentjenkinsdesigns11 ай бұрын
  • Love how you are ripping on epoxy tables not being actual woodworking, but you do buy that finish from one of the biggest epoxy woodworkers out there :D

    @dennisstolwijk7906@dennisstolwijk790611 ай бұрын
    • Who said Cam is a woodworker 🙃

      @Lincolnstww@Lincolnstww11 ай бұрын
  • Your mother's response was classic!

    @teaguewhite26@teaguewhite2611 ай бұрын
  • I’ve watched a KZhead video from a resin supplier where they explained that if you have a large area requiring lots of resin then fill it with a strip of plywood therefore reducing the volume of resin required and saving money

    @azza1793@azza179311 ай бұрын
  • Soooo Good!!!!!❤😂😊 this was so entertaining, and the final scene was epic!!! Excellent job, man! Glad to have you on here making movie and woodworking magic for our viewing and maker’s pleasure. Happy Father’s Day too!

    @Mr.GucciClass1A@Mr.GucciClass1A11 ай бұрын
  • Great job John! Love your humor too.

    @kevinash8825@kevinash882511 ай бұрын
  • LOL, love the ending. Great job on the table. Looks fantastic. The original/reworked base is the best.

    @jamesbannerman4804@jamesbannerman4804Ай бұрын
  • The only thing I hate more than river tables is river table videos. But I managed to watch almost your whole video. I like your sense of humor, you had me laughing. Also, since I've been working wood for only 40 some years, it was good to finally get some instructions on how to sand. Thank you

    @tomruth9487@tomruth948711 ай бұрын
  • Great build! I like both bases. I think the spider one is cooler now but may date the table in a decade or so.

    @EvanDunville@EvanDunville11 ай бұрын
  • Wishing u all the best on this new, full time endeavour … really enjoy your efforts!

    @lameducksoup3702@lameducksoup370211 ай бұрын
  • Your mom...lol! so awesome! The spider base is nice, but the one from the old table is gorgeous, and my preference by far! I know this table is long done now, but I loved this video!

    @_billyklubb_@_billyklubb_Ай бұрын
  • Nice work and great video, Jon. Enjoyed seeing you and Matt in the shop and now in the video. And fun that I built something with a slab of the same pecan tree. I do look forward to the epoxy table fad going away.

    @cyclingturtlewoodworks@cyclingturtlewoodworks11 ай бұрын
  • I like the upcycled base better. Nice job on the table. Cam would like it too.

    @markabernard@markabernard11 ай бұрын
  • great table Jon! love the spider base - Matt is a great guy, love the collabs!

    @danielrobinson435@danielrobinson43511 ай бұрын
  • As someone who barely has a practical bone in my body, I found this video surprisingly interesting. Why wait to thank you later? THANK YOU right now Jon.

    @StuartMacadam@StuartMacadam11 ай бұрын
  • the ending was epic🤣

    @voodoo152@voodoo15211 ай бұрын
  • "It was perfect, like flat-earth flat"... you got me hard on that one XDD

    @highchiller@highchiller10 ай бұрын
  • Dude, I could spend 30 hours just looking at that top! I prefer the repurposed base, but it's Mom's decision, right? Loved the ending!

    @scottboettcher1344@scottboettcher134411 ай бұрын
  • Very happy to see another video! I actually manually creeped the channel about 12 hours before you released this video. Guess I had a feeling it was coming!

    @ericdonohue9008@ericdonohue900811 ай бұрын
  • I'm not a fan of epoxy/river tables either but, i think this table turned out looking awesome. I think option 2 for the base looks best

    @adamroberts737@adamroberts73711 ай бұрын
    • Agreed. And maybe the premade bases are a reason some woodworkers look down on river tables? I think I like the second in part because it was crafted, and crafted well!

      @MLSteffel@MLSteffel11 ай бұрын
  • Great video. Love the Superfast Matt refs in there as well. I do like the spider base, just depends on how stable it would be if someone sat on an end

    @KrayyNZ@KrayyNZ11 ай бұрын
  • Great video Jon! You had quite the adventure on this one and the results look awesome!

    @dwwoodbuilds@dwwoodbuilds11 ай бұрын
  • this was awesome. I think your point about re-defining the question makes a lot of sense as well. loved your mom's reaction at the end. 🤣

    @rbdesignsnh@rbdesignsnh11 ай бұрын
  • "Jonathan!!!" Perfect coda! I always appreciate your videos -- the content and the style. Keep up the great work (epoxy river tables notwithstanding)!

    @David-ok3cx@David-ok3cx11 ай бұрын
  • It's funny how Matt looks so much like Rob McElheny. Yes, it is woodwork, and yes, they are beautiful. AND your table looks AMAZING! I wish I could afford one. Great video, as always.

    @LuizNunes74@LuizNunes7411 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful table and the metal base is by far the nicest

    @cuanham@cuanham11 ай бұрын
  • Table came out great and I really liked your take on the whole epoxy table thing. One of my favorite videos of yours so far. 👍

    @doylestownhuskies9624@doylestownhuskies962411 ай бұрын
  • I thoroughly enjoy all your videos, regardless of the particular content. I just want to hang out with you in your shop and listen to you talk. You make me laugh and teach very well. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort for all your videos. -M

    @markwidawer3890@markwidawer389011 ай бұрын
  • Wow! That was very interesting in the process it took to make that table top. As for the bases, they both looked great but as for which one to use, I think it would depend on what the chair design is since they should somewhat match the design cue's of the table.

    @autoguygl@autoguygl11 ай бұрын
  • Another great video and you can’t go wrong with either base. Just couldn’t decide which I liked best.

    @philwoodard5439@philwoodard543911 ай бұрын
  • Very impressed, nice work, great video!

    @jeffkowalski4936@jeffkowalski493611 ай бұрын
  • To me this is definitely woodworking. You have to understand the wood a lot more and it is very critical to the end product.

    @cujero@cujero11 ай бұрын
  • Oh my god John, I Effing LOVED this video!!! You had me informed and laughing all the way through to the very last second. I got a ton of inspiration from your vid which I really appreciate because I'm in the middle of my very first epoxy table build myself (I'm very nervous...). Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into this video John!

    @MichaelBuilds@MichaelBuilds11 ай бұрын
  • Good video, and you two make a great double act. I liked the finished product more than I expected - not a fan of the bright blue made-for-youtube tables but the black felt more natural. Also I liked your remade base better.

    @mcba@mcba11 ай бұрын
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