My PETROLHEAD Dad Tries A TESLA ?!! | Electric Car First Impressions, Drive & Charging PROBLEMS!!!
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My Dad has spent the last couple of years RANTING about Electric Cars and how Petrol and Diesel are superior...yet he has never driven one!
So we used the new Tesla Model 3 to see if we can change his mind!
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Give him a week or two…. Let it sink in… it won’t take long until he buys one 😂
As a 75 year old I have to say there are plenty of us ancients who embrace the new. 😊
Good man! I don't understand people who get so entrenched in what they're used to... if we were all a little more open minded the world would be a better place.
73 here, just got my second Tesla, a 2024 Model 3 Long Range. Absolutely love it. The 30 day free FSD trial was good enough that I subscribed.
79, love my Tesla Y. Had to convince husband but now is his all time favorite car.
i like to do the thought experiment: What if cars had been electric for the last 100 years and all of a sudden some guy comes out with the internal combustion engine with its less torque, polluting, loud, 100s of moving parts to maintain, fluids to change, no energy recovery when braking...etc... You'd think the guy had lost his mind.
I give him credit for trying.
The best solution is a Tesla that you charge from home and have access to the Supercharger network. I wouldn't bother with any other brand of EV.
All EV have access to Tesla Superchargers in Australia
You have a point but when I got the Kia e-Niro in 2019 the Model 3 was not an option as we needed a more practical car, it had to be hatchback or estate for us here in France. We did some long hauls across France, Switzerland and into the UK without any real trouble charging, although we did have a few sticky moments back in 2019/2020 but the charging network is so good now that I hardly bother planning the trip on the ChargeMap app. Being able to use Tesla chargers is a real bonus as they are so easy to use, always work and cheaper than the competition.
Almost all superchargers in mainland Western Europe are open to non Teslas. At the same time, it’s not in-common to see some Teslas charging at non Tesla rapid chargers that are bang in front of Tesla Superchargers. The reason is those are company lease cars that come with a charge card. And those cards do not work on the superchargers.
So you would not give a Lucid a try?
@@pary327 To expensive compared to a Tesla model 3 and where is there charging network??
I am way younger than your dad, but if I drive 300 miles, I will need to stop to have something to eat, relax, and go to the restroom. Who drives 300 miles then put more gas in the car and keep on driving? Must be a Superman!😂
Road trip in a Tesla is the best experience ever, Tesla supercharger usually has coffee shops, shopping malls, restaurants etc, great place to take a break, have coffee or food and stretch your legs. Never have to go to dirty public bathrooms again! 😊
Great video. Your dad is hilarious. I think you should have emphasized to your dad that most people with EVs don't ever use those superchargers and they just charge at home, so people with petrol cars do in fact spend a lot more time at gas stations than EV owners do at charging stations because most of the time an EV will just plug in overnight. Yes, if you are on a long trip you will have to potentially fight over chargers, but generally on a day to day basis you will just charge at home and save yourself all those trips to the bloody gas station. That said your dad and my dad are similar - can't deny that Teslas are nice, but continuously claim they aren't for him. My dad was the same way with smart phones and eventually in 2017 I just went out and bought him an iPhone and he can't live without it now.
Evs are no good ...
In my two years of ownership, I've charged 3 times at a charge station. 99% of charging is done at home while I'm asleep 🙂
Hilarious. He's probably my age but some people just are stuck with their preconceptions. To be fair, you threw him in the deep end with the new stalkless Model 3, no phone as key and if you'd navigated to the supercharger you would have known it was full.
I understand the charging at home thing which can actually be quite convenient and I've often made this argument myself however, until they get charging down to 5 minutes I doubt I would be buying one. many others would not be convinced either. Lots of people live in cities and charging points are just simply unavailable and you cannot trail leads from your apartment on the 3rd floor across the pavement so it's charging stations or Nothing which makes it very unattractive.
@@pary327 It will take some time for sure, but the price of BEVs will drop enough that people will be willing to deal with the charging issues.
Charge a little longer on long trips, but never ever visit a petrol station again while at home 👌🏼
I am 79 and love my Tesla Y, had to talk my husband into buying it but now this is his all time favorite car, specially on long road trips. Let your dad drive the car for a couple of weeks. Tesla is an experience, none Tesla driver would not understand it because they have not experienced it. ‘We don’t know what we don’t know.’
Most people choose to plug in their phone and charge while they sleep. I don’t know many who choose to stand and watch their mobile phone charge during the day. Similarly it’s best to charge your ev overnight on off peak electricity. Most people drive an average of 18 miles a day in the uk…….
Not everyone has access to home chargers and those who drive more than 18 miles a day such as my Dad. But that is why EV's aren't for everyone at this current point in time, but they do suit a wide variety of people.
@@DrivingBex 18miles that's pushing the technology now, that must be a brand new ev, i heard they only do 16 miles in the summer, downhill with a tail wind.
@@StephenLyons1984 Guy from Perth drove his around Australia in 10 days. 13,600 kms.... just sayin'....
@@zwieseler take it the joke went past you 😂
@@StephenLyons1984 I'm German. We don't have a sense of humour.
Says it all, her dad hates evs, but never been in one, didn't even bother watching the vid..
🤣🤣🤣 honestly it baffles me when people do that. Expressing an opinion on something but are yet to try it. At least he can now base his opinion on his experience
But then you're doing the same as the dad. Who knows, he may still hate it.
BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH YEESSSS EXACTLY. The first line was the absolute hook
It’s costly waiting for your EV to charge and your life is ticking down, just waiting for a charging space and a charge ⚡️😒 ⛽️😁…..Just fill and go
@@marklambert2750 like gas stations don't have lines. Also EV charging spots can be installed in more places than gas stations with less maintenance.
Props for your dad to check out something so new to him. I love that mindset regardless of the outcome!
My 80 year old father feel in love with the power and no maintenance
well, that supercharger situation was unfortunate hahaha
Fair comment... It doesn't fit his needs! I own a BEV, but I'm 100% behind his freedom of choice...👍
I this a the anti EV movement is mostly fueled by governments forcing them on people with cut off dates for ICE cars. Here in Australia cars were more fuel efficient 20y ago as most people drove smaller cars sedan, wagons, Utes, and things like UKs Ford Escort or smaller. But now everyone drives big V8 4x4 and American style pick-up trucks instead of sedan styles Uts like Ford Falcon & Holden Commodore
@@OTPulse Now did the government force larger ICE vehicles on the public as well? Or did the market choose to buy those larger vehicles that use more fuel?
@ProXcaliber Yes. But giving bigger car tax exemptions, they didn't give smaller cars. The same way people complain about EVs getting incentives. Would you buy a 5 seat sedan for $70 or an SuV for $50?
@@OTPulse why don't these same people "rebel" against everything else government "forces" on them then? It's because they are choosing to make it political. That's why I get called a libtard (I'm not a Democrat), Biden lover, etc.
@evtruth Much of the protests and propaganda is sponsored by corporations or rich people against things. Somethings aren't worth fighting against worth funding like environmental destruction and poisoning of natural food supplies (sure people do protest, but gets ignored by MSM because their sponsored by the ones running the things they protests against) but they point at dumb shit like Co2 batteries make and oil produce being burnt. But you're right. Everything gets turned into a political shit-show these days, "facts" get twisted and warped to push all sorts of stupidity, and political activists are the worst.
To be fair, he tried it, and wasn't rude about the car, a bit unfortunate that he had to wait for a charger, but he didn't seem to wait much monger than you would at a busy fuel station. I agree that it is horses for courses, if he is doing a lot of towing, currently, EVs are not so good, their consumption pretty much doubles, but his other gripe about liking to get on and range not being enough was demonstrated to be false as he was obviously hungry and eager to go in for a break and use the toilet, so even in his dino car, he would have had to stop at some point. Our bladder and belly have less range than most EVs today
It’s a typical attitude with those who say they hate EVs. Then when they drive one they admit they are OK. Bottom line is, and I agree with your dad, it’s not for everyone. Technology will change, and it has changed since the outset of EVs. We will have better faster charging batteries that will provide longer range. We will have better infrastructure. All of this doesn’t happen overnight.
Doesn't matter. EV's will forever have Achilles heel of recharge time. To stuff in say 60kwh in 5 mins...do the calculations, look at how to physically implement those calculations, and then give your conclusion. It won't be fine...!
@@jeremylister89I wouldn’t say forever. Batteries are being developed as we speak that will give a full charge in 15 minutes. It will only get better. Developing battery technology is in full swing. I feel confident that things will get better and better. But, what they do have to work harder on is more infrastructure. It is improving, but it still has to come a long way. I’m patient, because the EV that I’m driving will last a very long time. Just for information purposes, it is estimated that 95% of EV produced since 2008 with the production of Nissan Leafs, are still on the road. One Tesla owner reported that in just over 900,000 km he’s using the original battery with just under 100% capacity remaining. That puts to rest those EV hatters that say they only last two years. I’m into my third year with absolutely no battery degradation whatsoever. Full 100% capacity.
Wait - your dad in the UK needs to be able to drive 500 miles before filling up or charging? I just went to Google Earth and found that the UK is only 576 miles from the southern tip of the Isle of Wight to the tip of Cape Wrath in Scotland. Even in the US, most vehicles can't go much farther than 350 miles before a fill-up.
It's the stock answer to people that refuse to entertain the idea of an EV. My bladder would likely give out before an EV battery. And with the speed of the superchargers now, a wee and a quick stop in the shop will add plenty of range for another decent journey.
I feel like some people don’t wanna change their mind because they will feel ashamed 😂 how I could be wrong 😂😂
Reverse in to charge is the best and safest way to park. Even when not charging, it’s better to back in and the pull forward with a clear view of your situation.
That was fun. Thanks! Not sure about Europe but in the US, most people charge at night and only supercharge while on road trips. I used to wait at least 50x more time to fill up as I do waiting to charge so charging is actually a huge time saver, not a burden and many watching might assume. If you don't have access to power where you park, charging would be a disadvantage.
Typical EV hater never ever driven one whereas all EV drivers have driven a blummin diesel!
Not sure if he’s a typical EV hater, but you have a point. Virtually EVERY EV driver has been an ICE vehicle driver for some time, at least! ICE vehicles have brought affordable transport to most of us, will continue to do so for a time and have caused a shitload of environmental damage. Time to move on…
Huh? I'm 61, have had 25+ cars and have never in my life driven a diesel anything.
@@TechridrNot unusual if you’re in the United States. I’ve gone out of my way to buy diesels here in California.
I drive an EV and an oil burner. I like them both for different reasons. I'll never use the EV for long trips.
He's not a ev hater just likes what he likes, Like the rest of us.
I had two days in a row that I drove my Tesla 700 miles. Long days but doable. Love my Tesla Model Y!
I don't think he hates EVS... More like she's not his favorite daughter.
Regarding fueling, one must remember that fueling at a remote fueling facility is rarely required. Almost all fueling is done at home. We have been so conditioned by a hundred years of history where the vehicle must be taken somewhere else to be fueled.
I thought that was a good video and your Dad made valid comments. I don't think he was an EV hater; he just saw the cons but also highlighted the pros
This was great !! 😂 I did this with my dad and 2 weeks later he owned one ⚡️😎 How do you like the new model 3? Is the stealth grey nice in person?
My dad is 72yrs old and loves his new red Model Y. He's even using FSD everyday and can't stop taking about it.
I've owned my tesla 5 years and have never had to wait for a charger. Not once.
I've also owned Teslas for the past five years and only supercharged when I go on a road trip. Which means 98% of the times I charge at home overnight and wake up with a full tank of electrons.
On the dash speedo location placement, our old 2003 Toyota Yaris has its speedo in the very centre of the dashboard and not in front of the driver and was no problem at all. Even better was that it left clear vision ahead of
Charging is easier than fueling if you have a home charger. I don’t miss having to keep my eye on the gauge and worrying about running out. And the hassle of going somewhere to fuel.
He strikes me as a Model S LR kind of guy. Get him a test drive in that!
I’ve just turned 60 have been through BMW M3 s Audi R/S models , lotus and Porsche. I drove my son’s model 3 few years ago , my daily drive is now a model Y performance. No way do I want an ICE car back , to not visit a petrol station or have constant services plus it can see of pretty much anything I come across! I plan to purchase a Porsche boxster EV to add to next year where I would have gone for a petrol car in the past .
Hey that is cool it seems almost everybody loves their Tesla ! Also a German car Enthusiast all my life... at 70 I have two older BMWs and a 2020 Mercedes. I love the ICE sounds and both BMWs are manual trans. I've driven a MS and it was terrific. But the Interiors are so Stark. No thx.
Bex, the word you were searching for is deceleration and UK (and EU) regulations are that brake lights must illuminate if the car is decelerating at more than 1.3 m/s^2 (about 1.3g). BTW you missed the big trick by not telling your Dad how much it would have cost if charging at home.
Thank you! Yes he is already aware of this as my partner has an EV and we charge at home for 7p a KwH 😀
Good for him for giving it an honest go! As the technology improves people with his needs and mindset will come around. Within a few years range will be 1000km and towing won't be a problem, charging times will be (already are for the newest batteries) 10 min for 10 - 80% (and keep in mind that will be 700km added if you have 1000km range), and charging stations will be everywhere (meanwhile, in ten or so years, gas stations will be closing down). By the end of the decade EVs will be a no-brainer for 99% of the public. By 2035 no one will care that most governments are banning ICE anymore than people today would care if CRT TVs were banned.
Oil is finite resource and is becoming more expensive. I wonder what people are going to do when prices for fuel become so expensive, that driving an ICE vehicle becomes unsustainable. What would the EV detractors say then?
EVS are also depending on oil. EVS are far away from being perfect, nor eco-friendly. Supercharges also run on gas, carbon and more. At this moment, EVS are just a way to make more money for some companies… depreciation has been hitting them massively.
@@bastian_baronBut, EVs put what little oil they do use to work more effectively, rather than just burning it. The trouble is, we’re running out of oil. If you can charge a car for a year for the cost of a month’s groceries, instead of a year’s worth, wouldn’t it make more sense to you. That and the pollution from refining oil is creating one heck of an environmental mess. The forest fire season has barely started, and people in Alberta are on evacuation alert, while in the south there are severe water shortages. This is north of the 49th parallel, folks, not the tropics. Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.
I'm lucky, I can charge at night, in my garage, so never have to fight for a stall at a public charger. With an easy 300 mile range, I can even do a weekend at the farm with no concerns.
Diesel fan? Does that mean fan of air pollution, smog, maintenance, high fuel prices, not being able to make your own fuel, giving money to countries he may or may not like being beholden to so he can drive, having to make a special trip once weekly or so to a special fueling station? Yeah, really selling those diesel talking points there, lots of benefits to diesel indeed. In all fairness, the cited shortcomings aren’t unreasonable.
What about the mining of cobalt? What’s that doing to the environment. Which countries are they being mined in? Then there’s the question of what do you do with all the batteries when they are no good? What about where the batteries are made? It will be interesting to see what the effect in the environment will be from the production of EV’s batteries Just saying. I think he was saying they have their place for certain people’s lifestyle but not his atm
@@jacquelinetaylor9794 sure you need cobalt any way for fossil fuels anyway and fossil fuels have been around longer.
It is interesting how this fan and petrolhead idea is introduced by the affluent EV enthusiasts wanting to push these vehicles on to us. Most people cannot afford this technology and the Lexus priced but basically specified Tesla is no real choice for most of us. We just buy cars to get us around and electric is just not a viable option.
@@michaeld5888 yes I need a 5th hand car to afford any of them
All about control in the end, and EVs are another way of obtaining it.....
With all respect to your father, this is not "as good as it's going to get". Technology improves as time passes, especially with batteries and charging times. But he is correct in that This car is not a panacea for everyone. Different lifestyles prefer different features of each type of vehicle.
Right? Can you imagine someone driving a Model T and saying "this is as good as it's going to get"? 😂🤦♂️
Should have started him in Chill mode and Creep mode. That would’ve given him a more traditional drive experience to start. Then bump him up to total experience.
"Good for people who drive locally" Didn't know a 300 miles round trip was classed as local lol.
This is such an absurd statement I hear all the time. I've done over 11K miles in roadtrips, the shortest one being 900 miles. Zero problems. Negligible time difference (we stop every 2-3 hours anyway for snacks and safety - driver fatigue).
You could have checked on the Tesla nav screen How many chargers they were and if there is a wait time. Could have avoided that one. I bet it was the same getting him to change to digital TV 😂😂. Good vid.
When we set off, they were a few available. Due to time constraints, Leicester is the closest one without having to detour 20 miles😅 He doesn't even have a mobile phone bless him, but does like his flat screen TV 🤣
@@DrivingBex 👍
@@DrivingBex Have you ever seen the Model S that did 752 miles using the after market ONE prototype 200kw battery
That was fun. Thanks for sharing
It's amazing to me just how many people HATE EV's but have never been near one, in case they catch fire of course. And straight of of the blocks - I need to drive 600 miles without a break argument (10 hours) came out.
We have one car in the family and I have just updated to a Tesla Model 3 RWD following a Kia E Niro 4+ for the past 3 years. We drove the Kia E Niro from near the Humber in UK to Disneyland Paris. We did 870 miles and stopped where we had to stop adding bits of charge. There were free chargers at at Disneyland Paris, so cost me just £35 for the whole trip. For doing 27,572 miles it used 8087.896kWh at a cost of £874.26. An ICE car at 50MPG would have cost £4,011.03 or at 45 MPG £4456.70 The new Tesla has some quirks but far less bings and bongs than the Kia. The buttons for indicators made sense and have been very easy to use. In fact if the trun signal does not cancel just tap the button again. Better than the disco I would get trying to cancel the stalk version sometimes! Finally with the Tesla make sure you navigate to the charger as it will advise you how many chargers are free and pre heat the battery for optimal charging. Also I have seen some drive through charge spots that would be caravan or trailer friendly. Not many but they are increasing.
I have never had to wait at a supercharger. But I live in California. We have plenty of superchargers. I had no idea people had to wait.
One of the ways I explain regen, it's like down shifting on a manual. They will quickly adapt that lifting off with your right foot is like down shifting. Cheers.
Most people can't afford to spend upwards of 40 grand on a car. By the time Tesla's are affordable to average people (Used ones) they will be worn out. The new cheaper Tesla might have a chance... But even if that has a starting price of 25k... to a lot of people it will still be well out of their price range. My salary is 22k... so even if I was able to live somehow without paying any bills or spending any of it - I still couldn't afford a Tesla.
great content! your dad is a funny guy!
How come you didn't know before you got there that there were no available chargers? Doesn't the tesla tell you that on screen? My Škoda does and I was sure the model 3 did too (it did when I owned one)
It does
Diesel TT... says it all. Not what I would call "petrolhead" not even going to mention Tiguan and caravan!
Before EV's were a thing the caravaner was the most despised/hated of drivers in the country. He's only passing on the hatred that he's received over the years. I suppose it makes him happier.
ALL gas cars give overly optimistic mileage estimates as well.
It could have been a much better experience for him You could've explained navigation and set it so that it would use a destination with a charger en route, thus rerouting you from fosse park to a more quiet charger I was also looking forward to the grin when he floored it but you didn't take him on the M1, lol
As mentioned in other videos, we had time constraints and the fosse park is the closest charger by 20 miles. It isn’t much use explaining sat nav’s to my dad…once I set him up a basic sat nav to direct him home and he still got lost😂
@@DrivingBexsounds like FSD would be perfect for him. The car would follow the navigation.
You didn't use the Navigator to see what was availabe :) Was this after non-Teslas were allowed to use the Superchargers?
Great video, typical that would happen at the charger. :) There is a definite age aspect to the resistance to new tech. I think the overall adoption will be driven by the younger and next generation of drivers. My boomer parents have finally gotten a hybrid, they may get there eventually, especially once self drive allows them to retain their mobility as they get older. My next car will be a 3 or a Y. I'm heavily into the tech so can see through the FUD. :)
So you leave the house with 320 miles of range. Are you going to drive for 4 hours straight at 70 mph without stopping? Every day? I got my Model Y 3 months ago. Haven’t been to a supercharger yet. I’m 78 and loving that this SUV can out run my old 427 Corvette or SLK55 AMG Mercedes, on electricity that costs 1/4 of what Premium gas costs, quietly.
I agree with your dad about charging with a caravan, I have a diesel tow car, and an electric mini which I've only ever charged at home.. its nicer to drive and good for 95% of our journeys... funnily enough we changed a petrol audi tt for the mini !
Haha enjoyed it 😂, good one.
you're doing good work 😀
Petrol heads refuse to accept that petrol/diesel vehicles also looses fuel when being driven. The fact that EVs indicates SOC so clearly and even indicates current power use so clear, makes SOC easy to read and very obvious. Very few ICE vehicles do that, and in those that does, level of fuel and fuel flow is just as obvious. Now, compare ICE vehicles with similar performance to an average EV, or a Tesla Model 3 LR (Dual motor) and see what milage it will give on a tank or liters/km? Similar ICE vehicles (performance & size) will struggle to get 320 miles on a 65 liter, M3 comes to mind. So, its not that much of an issue really. When on long gurneys, driving 3-4 hours in a go is very tiring and when charging say after 3-hours of driving, one can have a toilet call and something to eat, and when that is done, chances are you ready to go at least another 3-4 hours. It seams to me that the EV has only one issue, the Batteries. With that constantly improving, and hopefully some drastic changes coming over the next say 4-5 years, that will eliminate the worst part of the EV, which admittedly is already not that bad! Energy supply, however, that is the Grid, might be an issue if it does not keep pace with the demand added by EV's. So , that will have to be improved and fast! Hope that will happen, by adding more nuclear to the Grid, as that is the most clean and lasting base-load energy source!!!
loses ,,, why do so many people spell this word incorrectly
When I look at advertising ranges I use these WLTP (would likely to perform) NEDC (not even Damn close)
The volume on this video was like a rollercoaster
What was the first EV you tried Bex as got feeling had the MG4 on test a while.
Cupra Born was the first ev press car (and ev I’d tried)
@@DrivingBex my EV, I’d never driven until collected it. Was saving for 4 years until prices came to me (VW e up facelift 32.3 kwh). Still enjoying and I’m very fussy. Done 4500 miles in about 7 months.
You can see from the little car shown on the screen when the car is braking 👍🏻
How does it not "suit your lifestyle"? Just because you decided beforehand that you hate it doesn't mean it could'nt actually suit your lifestyle.
Love the 500 mile on a tank. Half full on an average day so 250 miles before refueling on your average day rather than start the day with 300 miles.
Don't forget the cost of filling up such a large tank with fuel!
I really will miss hunting then queuing five deep whenever there’s a fuel shortage.
It takes 10 minutes to add 100 miles to my Model Y. By the time we grab snacks and use the bathroom it's ready to move to the next stop. Charging simply isn't an issue with a Tesla.
Would have been been cool to put him in the performance
This OLD man does not drive 400-500 miles without stopping. UNLESS he wears a diaper on trips.
well done, so, real
it would be interesting to see what your dad thinks about an Audi or BMW EV compared to the Tesla
Much worse experience in general for a lot more money, but he'd like traditional controls layout.
@@Mrbfgray Personally I would never buy a new EV you can get really good deals on used in the US
@@sirgardensalot I've never bought new vehicle in my life w exception of very good deal on new 1-ton for business. Still love my 'old' 2011 BMW M3 but I can't see ever spending much on an ICE again except for a weekender maybe. Next daily will be a Tesla but in no hurry.
your dad mentioned the tesla is for around town well I with a home, would never use the tesla charging network and pay triple for power then not waiting at all with a charger at the house.
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Given Musk’s shenanigans and rising competition, I seriously wonder if Tesla will survive as an independent company. I just bought an EV - not a Tesla
@@charlesbruggmann7909 whether anyone buys a Tesla or not doesn’t matter to me, I believe in electric vehicles in general. Good luck on your purchase, I wish I could afford one myself.
@@charlesbruggmann7909 I'm more than certain at the point that they would get rid of him rather than letting him run the company into the ground. And by "they" I mean the shareholders.
@@ProXcaliber Not sure I agree. There seems to be a Musk cult amongst many Tesla shareholders. Whatever happens, he will make money - not so sure his groupies will.
Wow. Isn’t he a fun fun guy!
Love your accesent!!
So I know die-hard petrol and diesel drivers from the EU. You were and are now driving Tesla LR. Towing caravans is absolutely not an issue. They have been driving all over the EU since they were retired. One person drove all the Alpine passes with a caravan over the summer over time. He just said that Tesla has a lot more power than its 300 hp diesel back then. They then leave caravans and come back home for special occasions. On camping grounds they talk to others about beautiful places and off they go. When it comes to costs, they just laugh. How stupid we were to spend so much money on a workshop and petrol. When it comes to the security system, they are absolutely thrilled. Mileage without a trailer anyway. My friend is 63 years old and was also a petrol nut. Used to drive AMG for power. Once with me in the MP3 and drove it myself for 600 kilometers and MP3 was ordered. He couldn't believe what he had used. That was right after the trip. Now he has stress with his wife because she really likes the MP3. That wasn't the case with AMG because she felt unsafe while driving. Now he is often a passenger thanks to convincing arguments from his wife.
You can charge in the garage
If i had a house with solar panels on the roof and a drive I'd buy a small ev if it was cheap enough' but i don't i live in a flat so have a ice car suites me fine happy motoring 😊
He'll get a free bus pass eventually, far simpler mode of transport.
If only there is a reasonable bus service, he probably would use his bus pass 😊
will that tow his caravan?
Tesla UK chargers use CCS?
Thats a real problem nearly fighting? to charge up, Not knowing whos waiting whos first, People jumping queue! Do you really need that hassle just to charge NO! Nice vlog your dads got his head screwed on.
An excellent video. Need to see more of your dad 🤭😜.
Thank you!!
He does raise good points about ev’s Poor range compared to ic cars Atrocious range when towing anything Diminished range at higher cruising speeds, compared to ic cars Charging times Poorly designed charge stations, often no roof cover and no drive through set up if you have a trailer or caravan. To unhook a caravan just to charge would be ridiculous. Reverse in to charge, not good for a lot of drivers. Expensive - initial price of the car and cost to charge at a charge stations could increase. Cars are really heavy which calls for a higher load and wider tyre and reduced tyre life. Terrible resale value Eventually all these shortcomings will be in the past. EV’s are improving fast and they will soon be the way to go. I can totally understand older people not wanting to change because they know it isn’t worth it for the few years they have left to drive. They need to improve the range dramatically if they want get more people to change and there needs to be way more charging stations. If you have your own home with solar and mainly do short trips and don’t need to tow for a great distance, then they are worth the change now. Even more so in the coming years when competition reduces the buy price. One the other hand, If you drive on long trips, rely on charging stations for charge, often towing, than no, they aren’t for you. When I say long trips, I mean like me driving 1500klms every week to go to and from work.
People who say they need more range are IGNORANT about the range they ACTUALLY need in their EVERYDAY use. Even this old guy was apparently ignorant of his bodily functions that will require him to stop LONG before the EV runs out of charge.
Reverse in to charge is the best and safest way to park. Even when not charging, it’s better to back in and the pull forward with a clear view of your situation.
I could keep going and knock down each of your so called points, but you get the picture.
Don't get me wrong, I like EVs but I wouldn't buy one yet as it doesn't make sense for me. The range is totally ok if you just do the trips into town. I drove 625 klms each way out west to work. Even the service stations are few and far between and zero chargers so it would be impossible to get there. If you live in the southern half of Australia then you'll most likely have more access to chargers. If you're just going to town, for me 25klms each way, then yes charging at home isn't a problem, especially if you have excess solar. If I want to drive to Brisbane I have one Tesla supercharger on that whole trip so towing anything is not happening either. All my points are valid particularly the ones about towing and parking at chargers. Reversing into a charger isn't possible if you're towing anything and it certainly isn't safer than driving forward. And when I said drive forward, I meant the same as a fuel bowser, forward in and forward out. That would also solve the 'towing something' issue and make it easier for the older generation. I have faith we'll get there but there's a way to go yet.
On the map you can see where and how many people are using the chargers . You guys are new
Christmas day must be fun.
Why didn't you look at the charging stations and see that one was full and so go to another one?
Why didn't you put the supercharger in as a location so the car would tell you whether there were any available chargers? You'd know in advance then.
I don't know your dad, but felt he was just being stubborn. I get his point about caravans, but not something i care about. So I believe they will be catered for in the future though they may have to use lorry charger spaces😅
That's it. They will never suit everyone...just like how a supercar wouldn't suit everyone. But glad he got to experience it and can now see why they do suit some people.
@@DrivingBex That isn't really a fair comparison, EVs are likely to be the only standard form of car in the future, while supercars were never going to be what everyone has. EVs will eventually cater for most people, battery technology will see cars that can go over 1000 miles between charges in the not to distant future, towing is the only spanner in the works, it requires larger bays for charging, and the car uses about double the juice to get anywhere. I'm sure with time, these problems will be ironed out, but currently, if I owned a caravan, the last thing I would want is an EV. But in the long run, they need to suit everyone.
@@JimT-RCT I tow a caravan with my i4. 100 mile range when towing. I just un-hitch, charge, and re-hitch. Takes a total of 5 mins. I just treat it as part of the journey. On its own, it can easily do over 500 miles with one 20 to 30 minute stop to charge. How is that a problem? My bladder won't last more than about 200 miles anyway.
Love the “bloody hell” British language.
I do love this EVs are not for everyone when any alternative to them is shortly due to be banned. Also car companies will be fined if they do not switch over to producing them to fixed quotas in the interim. This attempt to make us somehow love the idea we will have all to buy these very expensive Teslas is very creepy.
There are more EVs than just Tesla, just saying.
@@ProXcaliber True enough. But then so many EV users recommend the Tesla as the one we should really get. They are all expensive except the Chinese ones but in one of those I would worry as much about the airbags deploying as anything else. Musk whose enthusiasm seems to flit around on a whim saying they are not a car company and the sacking of the supercharger type team is a worry. These EVs need more manufacturer firmware support with changing charge standards than an ICE car though support that is a worry even with the latter. This transition if it is forced will not be fun for anyone as if people move to EV the infrastructure will be stretched if petrol stations close with little money around to expand the charging network.
You should do a video of him using FSD. That may change his mind a little more👍🏻
The only thing I don’t like Tesla is that many controls have to be done through touch screen. I would prefer physical knob and buttons that I can access while keeping my eyes on the road, with touch screen it is often not the case.
NO they don’t. You can control most settings with voice commands. And most of the other setting are in your profile that is loaded each time you get in the car. Ignorance.
Why is that an issue? Anything needed during your drive is one swipe away. Even better, just click the right steering wheel button and use your voice. Even less distracting than trying to find a physical button.
Door handles from hell.
Door handles are easy if you’re NOT a buffoon. Push your thumb on the big part and grab the skinny part. Been getting people in my Lyft Tesla for FIVE years that way. Not rocket science.
100 miles cost how much?
Bex is great.
I don't have time to watch it all, where in the video does he "floor it"? (Does he even do that?)
I like driving 1000 miles with out stopping to pee?. 18 hours driving without stopping? What, why, NO ONE does that. Electric cars work for most people if they are really honest.
You telling me this bloke does not atop foe the bathroom, and drove 600 miles non, stop. Yeap 😂 muat be a robotic protate. 🤣😂
Always been a Tesla fan but don’t see how your video was ever going to give your dad a positive opinion. The one thing I expected him to be impressed with is the the acceleration compared with diesel vehicles but that was never tested or mentioned. The charging experience would put anyone off.
Just rent a camper or an ICE car for that one yearly caravan trip. Why keep a guzzling expensive car for that one week? BTW, you know the Tesla card is just for back up right? Your phone is the primary key for the car, it will sense when you're there so you can just get in. And you can grant "keys" to friends via their Tesla app on their phone as well. So much easier than using the back up keycard.
My parents are retired and go away whenever they came, so renting wouldn’t be sufficient. Yes I’m aware with the card and phone but my dad doesn’t own a phone😂
My dad refused to test drive a Tesla I rented a couple years ago.