What is the Gospel of Thomas?
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Sources/Recomended Reading:
Asgeirsson, Jon (2005). "Thomasine Traditions in Antiquity The Social and Cultural World of the Gospel of Thomas". Brill.
Brakke, David (2012). "Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity". Harvard University Press.
Carlson, Stephen C. (2014). "Origen's use of the Gospel of Thomas". Uppsala University.
King, Karen (2003). "What is Gnosticism?". Harvard University Press.
Van den Broek, Roelof (2013). "Gnostic Religion in Antiquity". Cambridge University Press.
Meyer, Marvin (ed.) (2009). "The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of Sacred Gnostic Texts Complete in One Volume ". HarperOne.
Meyer, Marvin & Harold Bloom (1993). "The Gospel of St Thomas: The hidden sayings of Jesus". Bravo Ltd.
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What do you think about deism?
Talk about Mansur al hallaj and Kabir
As someone who rejected Christianity as a teenager on doctrinal grounds, I've since found that the life of Jesus and his teachings makes far greater sense when seen from a non-dualist perspective. The Gospel of Thomas shows this was definitely part of the Early Christian movement
What does nun-dualism mean here? Google only shows me indian philosophy.
I, too, would like to know how a non-dualist philosophy clarifies the gospel.
@@aenesidemus8819 You must discover it for yourself. Another way to think about it is as a paradox. Truth here is contextual, and pure Truth exists as the context beyond all contexts.
@@edward9674 non-duality is realised when the illusion of the separate self is seen through
@@aenesidemus8819 the esoteric teachings in Zen,Taoism,Sufism,gnostisism ,and Vedanta in Hinduism,and Buddhism all come together in Non-duality also the Kabbalah
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On the Sabbath though??? ;)
@@LetsTalkReligion can you do a video on the Nazarenes and mt Carmel. Were the Nazarenes an offshoot of the essenes
@@LetsTalkReligion or had any connection to them
I'm so glad the Nag Hammadi library was found.
Yes me too. I have a speech that I've said so often to the so called "religious' when they come to mey door tryhing to convince me they have god in their front pocket, that I have nearly word for word about the importance of the Nag Hammadis. oF course, most deny the importance of them claiming them to be the mysterious, illegal "GNOSTICISM" of the evil boogyman devil. Well, the original black book of the devil was created to fool the ignorant (which those with the power made sure they kept in ignorance) and trick the stupid. If yhou read the "illegal" books yhou will find that jesis (even in the black devil book it says this) took some of his disciples aside to teach them secret things. Well? What ARE those secret teachings? They are definitelyh NOT in the devil book. So for those who refuse to seek the true meaning of jesix, well, you are going to have a very difficult time in hell. (And frankly, you have NO idea what heaven or hell is, you DON'T own god!)
I just went down an hour long rabbit hole about the Nag Hammadi library. How random is it that this is the first video i watch after that and this is the first comment i see???
@@RyanKnoll-pq2cp What do you mean by an hour long rabbit hole? It may not be random at all--it may be that goggle is spying on you and presents you with "similar" choices to what they spy you looking at.
@@RyanKnoll-pq2cpit’s the algorithm, not that mysterious
@@theblueonez lmaooo you’re right. I was on one man. What a day that was…
The Gospel of Thomas consists of 114 sayings that Jesus expressed to Thomas. Two-thirds are analogous to the synoptic gospels. It is the book of Jesus’ proverbs.
The notion that The kingdom of God is within you, is also biblical. Luke 17:21. It's what scholars call parusia. Great video man! Well appreciated!!
I have been reading The Gospel of Thomas document for years. It's modern theology makes more sense than the church controlled and produced canonical scriptures. I love The Gospel of Thomas and consider myself a Thomasine Christian who will not taste death and have been already resurrected in the Lord. The Kingdom is within us and all around us. Greetings and Blessings To All. Amen.
People who believe the gospel of Thomas(not a gospel, not written by Thomas) aren't Christians, it denies that Jesus's death and resurrection is what saves us and it denies the trinity
im leaning towards this designation as a new follower of jesus
Do Thomasine Christians congregate or practice a religion. Or are you self identified
@@RavinderGosal-qf5sh you need teachers
Are you sure of that? Again,. more people telling others what god wants? Really, just more liars trying to gain power and $$.@@jasonearls5985
Reminds me a lot of "The future is already here - it's just not evenly distributed." (W. Gibson)
walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911
This is the concept of Christianity that brought me back to the teachings. The goal is enlightenment. 500 years after the Buddha brought the message of enlightenment to us and left to be one with the universe.
Absolutely mate. 👍 If only Christianity followed this path hey? Even though Origen wasnt a fan of Thomas, he did argue the point of the reality of reincarnation..
i like eastern thought
Bruh they’re all the same thing. Kingdom of God is within you = enlightenment/Nirvana.
I thot Origen was against Thomas?!@@waynerichards2944
walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911
Wonderful video. Thank you. Your outro reminds me of the soundtrack of the animated film, The Rabbi's Cat, a lovely fictionalized account of a time and place where peoples and languages and faiths lived side by side. It always makes me happy to hear it.
The best non-dual Christian book I've ever read. The Gospel of Thomas should be read by all Christians for a true taste of Christianity..
Sir, it warms a non-religious scripture-geek's heart to see a Christian encouraging his fellow believers to read non-canonical books .. ❤️
Stop smoking crack
the other christianity is christianity too. Perhaps a form that does not fit you, but that is personal. Just like you have different forms of practicing islam, etc.
@@Houndfromhell76 Giving attention towards graven images has its place I suppose, I believe it's called Bhakti yoga. Just remember, the kingdom of Heaven is within...as Jesus said.
it is far from a true taste its 2nd century and was never accepted by church fathers
reading the Nag Hammadi was very interesting, knowing the contentious rivalry that envelopes the topic of debate, it certainly allows for the individual to discover and learn about the diverse methods of thought surrounding this subject matter.
walked the golden Path 369 returned in one whole in one whole in one many out womb a Trinity first and last beginning and end one and 99 born 100 a untouchable living book was in me before I was born choose known proclaimed three times over before he was born 1. 24 .75 add move right repeat return to one . He came to me in life showed me how he knew me before I was born proclaimed undeniably three times over before I was born out womb in 7 months two became one in ten thousand three returned in one whole in one whole in one whole in one many in the divine spark light fire purified Holy Spirit in eye of fire out womb next to two sleeping giants and a bottomless pit in the purple and gold state five stand as one known proclaimed three times over before he was born choosen before he was born for great suffering and before and during great suffering always staying true and just choose by God to be his compass out womb and in man born again in life without tasting death in Christ born again 18.1.24 judgement multiply once see perfect harmony in balance 369 with all in-laws above married the father known to the true virgin mother creator cause and effect given amnesty from law won't taste death seen beginnings from ends first became last last first out womb and in man born the untouchable living book twin or other half in one whole in one untouchable living one won't taste death the superman the hope for the man of understanding out womb Jeremy Michael middle name nickname Moezer at 3 speech impediment shorted to Moe and others man born again in life without tasting death Michael my God given name and five stand as one whole in one whole in one whole in one many M1911
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@@alcabins2722Bible is gay
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David Brakke's vidoes on Gnostis is one of the most intresting things I've ever found on the internet. I really want to thank you Filip and Andrew from Religion for Breakfast for inspiring me to keep looking up all those awesome lectures.
lets hope can obtain gnosis and not goto hell which really really ultimate terrable...... idk how a God of love can build a system where MOST WILL goto hell instead of a FEW, i understand free will but seems ppl can goto hell for the most petty of crap......
As usual an amazing and enlighthing video! Brother Filip Would love if you cover gospel of Barnabas and gospel of marry Magdalene as well.
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I am Druze and I like to watch your videos that are informative and unbiased ❤️
@Asclepius Yes
Thank you!
Very interesting religion, I found so much in it compatible with my thoughts, as someone who studied ancient philosophy and the world religions.
@@-whackd we don’t even know much about the religion because the Druze are so secretive plus they don’t take converts
@@LetsTalkReligion, keep-up the good work, Filip!
I have learnt so much about all religions from you, including about my own. I like that your videos are objective and so well informed. Thank you
Did you though receive any knowledge or info about where to seek knowledge or just academic trivia? Knowing is seeing hearing touching feeling the facts of man's inner life.
There is an old saying, "History is written by the victors". So in essence many things we have been taught as history has a strong likelihood of not being exactly how it actually went since it is being depicted from a certain perspective and not all perspectives involved.
Thanks Filip! For a comprehensive contextual deep-dive into the Gospel of Thomas, I also recommend the works of Dr Samuel Zinner - specifically: 1. "The Gospel of Thomas: In the Light of Early Jewish, Christian and Islamic Esoteric Trajectories" (first published 2010) 2. "The Gospel of Thomas Sayings 1-19: Seeing God Through Exploring the Text" (2019 article available on his Academia page)
"In Gospel of Thomas" Jesus claime he is God(Allah) *Gospel Of Thomas Verse 77* Jesus says: (1) “I am the light that is over all. I am the All. The All came forth out of me. And to me the All has come.” (2) “Split a piece of wood - I am there. (3) Lift the stone, and you will find me there.”
Wonderful video as always. One lil nit pick, while the (seemingly) complete text was found in Coptic, we do also have the Oxyrhynchus papyrus fragments in Greek as a partial second text. Also, if you ever wanted to do a Part 2, delving into the meaning and controversies of the final saying would make for a fascinating video.
The way I understand it, the Gospel of Thomas is for the esoteric. Those who have the eye to see beyond the veil. No wonder it wasn't included in the current Bible. Powerful words!
Rather for the pantheistic. Like Spinoza...
It "wasn't included" because it has more in common with Manichaeism. There is no evidence the author known as thomas knew Jesus, he was a disciple of Mani.
Wrong.
For some people the Bible is the word of God and they are fanatical to the point they wont entertain any dispute. I do not accept Bible literally because it has been doctored so many times. You are not allowed to change main text in. Gita or Quoran. If you read Maimonides' , " Guide to the perplexed" , he clearly says Bible uses symbolic language. It has one meaning on the surface and one meaning on the depth. If you change the text the inner meaning is lost. There is an element of arrogance in christianity, which makes people , particularly young adolescents rebellious. They are looking for some logic and reason whatever they read. There are so much illogical and absurd things in Bible that is unacceptable to any intelligent person. No wonder the churches are not full and number of deists, agnostics and atheists are rising. In England churches bought by hindus and moslems to be converted to temples and mosqes. In Scandinavian counties only 15 to 20 percent people attend churches. So if Christianity is survive they have to have a unified honest and humble approach. For me personally Faith is nothing but affirmation of the absurd. Absolutely useless. Milan
@@fifikusz panentheistic
Wow! Just found your channel today. Fabulous learning. Thank you!
In the teaching as I was taught, gnostic means truth. The gnostics were believers of the true knowledge. Thomas was not subjected to the filter of politics, government and the church.
lol Thomas didn't even write this "gospel" it was written in the late 2nd century, long after all the apostles had died out
@@tomtemple69 The original 1st century gospel of Thomas had been copied many times. The original was handed down during the late 2nd century. The copy that happened to surface that we have today just happened to be a copy from that time. There may be more copies out there.
Very much appreciate your professionalism in presenting different sources of and aspects of Christianity. I've left my church, but it seems I'm really only beginning to learn.
I've stopped going to church because I feel that the church is so restrictive in terms of worship..nothing wrong with it or against it. Just seeking more and delving deeper than what rhey do in church and to find my own way/form of worship through the teachings of Christ and the Bible. Funny enough, a friend told me about this gospel, I've already been shifting my mindset to God being present everywhere and in everything
I learned more about Christianity since leaving it than I ever did as a devout evangelical.
This is not instead of the gospels. Believers of grace of Jesus Christ, Know the same knowledge, it’s continuing the teaching of Jesus. It’s exactly the teaching of grace, if you see Joseph Prince . You need Holy Spirit to see the truth. Find congregation with Holy Spirit to know the truth
the core teachings of Thomas speak to what to me is the highest truth - that the Kingdom is within, that there is a connective thread of us each to the ultimate consciousness. Evil becomes explained as those that have become drunk and lost sight of their innate connection to the divine.
@@nrenre16 sadly Institutionalised Christianity, condemns St Thomas. Evangelicals will tell you you’re going to hell for uttering such words or thinking such thoughts. For me, St Thomas, and it’s synergy with the Dao de jin, made perfect sense of what otherwise is a totally ambiguous and misleading man contrived New Testament!
I really like the way you present your topics!
Great teching Professor Holm. I thoroughly enjoyed it!
This makes a lot of sense especially in a philosophical way,which is what religion is if it functions properly.
i love seeing anything gnosticism. ty for spreading information about our beliefs and faith unbiased and just giving information. God bless phillip
Long live jewish\christianity and may its original teachings be preserved live on and be witnessed by all people and people will say things like we may not believe in Christianity but we like and respect it and we want to to prospure best regards from a Muslim line of ismail
Probably my favorite of the gnostics. Thanks for the video and links.
Thanx wondrium for sharing insight about the gospel of Thomas on this platform.
Thank you for these insightful videos.
This gospel has been a great help for me in understanding that there have always been a lot of different manuscripts and to be able to let go of the idea that the bible itself was divinely inspired. Being raised strict evangelical Christian, it was a difficult road to take. Thank you for sharing this. I like how you have an open-minded approach and also consider different points of view. In the end, it will always be difficult to get a complete picture of when and by who all of the manuscripts were written.
So many of the early followers of Jesus were persecuted and killed by other "Christians". Those persecutors are now the church, and those persecuted are now mostly forgotten.
As there is not a recorded Word of God, niether a single Word of Hi's own witting, nor God ever took the hand of anyone or dictated what to writte on the Bible by Faith we assume its Go's word however each book was written by Man no God. Moreover was the Catholic Church representing Christianity who made the choices. Particularly think or writting are authentic.
That's one way to look at it. Other people wrote books therefore this book is totally not inspired.
ALL THE WRITINGS OF THE BIBLE WERE GOD INSPIRED......
@@Pushing_Pixels ..... you have that wrong: The Early Christians, that is shortly after Jesus' death whole areas of the land conversations took place especially in Rome where persecutions took place committed by the pagans of the Roman Empire and the Jews: The Romans killed the Christians in their Amphitheatres and Arenas for blood sport: it was considered the Killings of Christians as a spectical and popular sport when they were mauled by animals: those who didn't die immediately, got dragged off into areas where they were later finished off by the Roman soldiers: this was a daily event, even twice daily, considered as a recreation. Also there were the persecutions of door to door hunting down Christians: Those persecuted are the Saints of the Roman Catholic Church, throughout history & today honoured as Martyrs: they died believing in the teachings of Jesus Christ: They died for their Faith. Read yr history and get yr FACTS AND NOT YR OPINION.
Brilliant work, it’s a great pleasure to be your subscriber, Dear Author Waiting for your new series
Fascinating video. Keep it up!
The" Gospel of St. Thomas." Thank you. Incredible information to be reflective upon.
Not to be confused with St. Thomas Aquinas.
@@kristenmoonrise I know, thank you
You’re believing in a false Gospel.
One of the most rigorous, balanced, and grounded voices on the platform. So hard to to do on the subject of religion. 🙏🙏🙏
Outstanding presentation! Thank you!
Looking at God's creation is the only way to truly know Him.. I've always observed nature, and life, the world and the universe, and saw God, for me, that always were God, He is everything.. this gospel made my soul warm.. it's beautiful.. a beautiful philosophy..
Jesus literally said don't love the world. 💀
Fillip, as you know, imbedded in the Acts of Thomas is The Hymn of the Pearl which I would love to hear you speak on. Well done! As always. Michael
This is so fascinating. Thanks for this video!
Very fine work ,been watching a few of yer videos and they are superb
Thank you. I have a better sense of the main core belief of Gnosticism now. Other “explainers” are so confusing.
I had a nagging feeling that Jesus was true but his true teachings were not understood and hidden by dogmatic people for motives other than salvation.
Excellent survey of this most important text. Thanks man, great video.
Great work as always my friend.
Fascinating stuff!
Through this gospel I finally got it. This is worthy of truth in my eyes.
Thank you for this. Well done. 🕊❤️🕊
This is a great extraction of Thomas
I've read the gospel of Thomas,at 3 times, I'm not a religious scholar but it seems to me,it makes sense
Great insight just the fact that Thomas isn't in the Canon makes it more credible to me it really shows the mystical side of Jesus
This was amazing. Thank you! ❤
Great video! Would love to see a video discussing the Samaritan Chronicle!
This is a video which bears watching a couple times and taking note. While I feel intelligent enough to understand the basic premises and proposed explanation, there were a few parts I was dwelling on and didn't hear your assessment. But, thank you for making this relatively understandable.
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Love Learning about this stuff
You and me both!
Thanks there is a channel like this. Very informative 🥸
Thank you for the fascinating video!
Thank you for the video. Quite thought-provoking. Having watched this video, I feel emboldened to make the conjecture that aside from the theological differences between the Gospel of Thomas versus those of the canonical Gospels, one reason for rejection of the Gospel of Thomas from what evolved into mainstream Christianity is the idea that to know oneself is to know Christ leaves little if any room for mass control. In other words, Catholicism would not have flourished if people were more introspective. Both Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox Christianity were as much about political power, as any government past, present or future. Peter and Paul dictated their way to the masses. From what has been presented in this video, the Gospel of Thomas neither demands such dogmatic devotion, nor encourages others to pursue such blind devotion.
Thank you for your videos and channel, brilliant. I am a non dualist & this is a non dualist text. It simply has its culture and regions flavor.
I'd be careful to use words like "non-dual" too generously, as we can easily end up anachronizing. But the text certainly has immanentist or even monist themes.
@@LetsTalkReligion for a academic perhaps, but not for an actual non dualist. A Sufi would say you academically understand sufism, but you're certainly no Sufi.
What's a non dualist?
Thank You for all Your lectures.
The Greek version is reconstructed somewhat in the Nag Hammadi Scriptures edited by Marivin Meyer(which you provided the link to). This is primarily based on the Oxyrhynchus papyri (1,654,655) and quotes of Hippolytus of Rome (Refutation of all Heresies 5.7.20, 5.8.32) I personally also like the Gospel of Truth, the Tripartite Tractate (Valentinian texts) and the Gospel of Philip
I'm deeply amazed. The gospel of Thomas has clear-cut similarities with the Hindu Vedanta
Because they come from the one and only God.
Let us share your vision, how is it so and what are the similarities, enrich us all?
@@sigma4777not everyone agrees, billions can express it.
@@jasonearls5985 And doesn't matter if everyone agrees.
@@jasonearls5985 Everyone never agrees on anything.
Great segment. Have always been interested in findings like those at Nag Hammadi and the Dead Sea since having the privilege to see an exhibit of the Dead Sea scrolls over a decade ago (in San Diego). Would welcome more videos that look at the "other Christianities" since they may have been more numerous than than believed. Also interested in how far back the Oriental Orthodox Churches go, in securing their own identities and organizations, employing languages like Syriac, Armenian, Gez and Coptic and Arabic. Like how likely was Syriac from the start the language of the liturgy of certain churches, sidestepping dependence on of Koine Greek translations (and Hellenistic interpretation, since Aramaic was a lingua franca of the Near East, like Koine)...?
Hello Mr.Filip, I have watched many of your works (videos) and thouroughly enjoy them. I learned a lot and deeply appreciate for sharing your knowledge with us. I always wanted to ask you about something (it may sound ridiculous). Are you, in any way, related to Christian Bale (well known actor)? I hope you will answer this question.
Thomas was in south india very early. Thats why in 325ad his writings where not there. Thank you very much. I see you play the lute. Theorbe? A beautifull music instrument.
The Gospel of Thomas is dripping with authenticity, both in historical context and in esoteric content.
Because you were extant almost two millennia ago, correct? ;)
Don't be ridiculous, authenticity for Jesus would have been the Torah, not pagan ideas such as these.
@@threestars2164 So many viewpoints and narratives. Funny how 4 books managed to make it into the cannon and everything else was burnt and shunned away.
@@abdulmunim318 As you hear they don`t know the date of the writings of Thomas. They do know it from the other gospels. Besides that is the old testament speaking about our lord Jesus Christ.
@@threestars2164 "Sing to Hashem a new song." Tehillim 96:1
My favourite line in the gospel is: “Blessed is the lion that becomes man when consumed by man, and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes and the lion yet becomes man” I think there are hints of the passion and the resurrection in this particular saying
Jordan Peterson talks about this verse in his video the Logos when he says either the battle will be within ourselfs or outside. If inside we will grow (the human who ate the lion) if we choose outside (lion who ate the human) we will crash and burn
@@AnonymousStrugglerJordan Peterson knows nothing about Christian theology or biblical scholarship beyond what suits his right wing agenda
Love it, thanks for sharing.
This video was really helpful. As a evangelical, I’ve always wondered about this, but never knew what was in the gospel of Thomas. I can see why this gospel led to mysticism and dualism, thus rejected. But a good compliment to the cannon if it was included.
It sounds non-dualistic to me, which may be part of why scholars may be hesitant to group it with more dualistic gnostic traditions
This is mystical insight and language. It may be gnostic in origin but similar insights can be found for example in St Paul. These sayings resonate with the teachings of St Francis
Great! Thank you for this gem. Any returned cathar here? Please say hello 🕊
Thank you for a fair and good review.
Very interesting, nice presentation, thank you!
My favorite Gospel!
Could there be multiple layers to Thomas? Could it be a version of what is called "The Q source", that had later Thomasine interpolations and subtractions?
Years ago I had read that Thomas was thought to be the sayings source for the other gospels, possibly even Que as you mentioned.
I'd like to recommend some books by S P Lourie, which I came across a year or so ago, specifically in this context The Thomas Code. Also The Rock and the Tower about Mary.
Thank you 🙏 for the great videos you make! Would you consider making video on the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, because in there is also a "hidden knowledge"
seek and you shall find...
By far one of my all time favourite books. Just a gem of a read!
Doubtful. Its incomprehensible to all
Galatian 1: But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
What book?
Thanks so much for posting
Can u make a video about Mormonism (LDS) ? very curious about that religion. Great video!
Completely fits in my meditation discoveries.
I was in a coma I visited heaven when I came back I read the gospel of Thomas daily for over a year now.
Great interpretation, thank you.
Thank you for this message possible
Awesome job, all your output is high quality but this one on Thomas is already one of my favorites. Thomas was a live document just like the other gospels. Some of it is independent and older, some of it is canonical gospel redaction. But what's important is that the Gospel of Thomas teaches nonduality. These Wisdom teachings cut away the unimportant mythos, they concentrate on what's important - the Truth about the Kingdom.
What? No, it doesn't.
Paul warns against such things :in Galatians 1: But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! The gospel of Thomas is illegitimate, ask any biblical scholar worth their salt and they'll tell u that, it was written over a century after Jesus had ascended, while the original gospels were written just a few decades after Jesus had ascended Gospel of Thomas was written by someone who never saw Jesus or any of the apostles
Gospel of Thomas is very wonderful
too bad is illegitimate and not written by Thomas
@@tomtemple69Like every other book in the bible.
@@nicojohncervano7690 lol tell me you know nothing abou history without actually telling me you're partially right, Thomas never wrote any books in the bible the 66 book canon has been authenticated by the early church, the old testament was compiled 200 years before Jesus was born
Very well presented. I sometimes wonder about the Protestant Reformation and how it may have paralleled the early Christian period when there was no established orthodoxy and varied doctrines proliferated among the early converts. Out of the mainline Protestant churches, sprang smaller churches and one-off non-denominational. This seems to be very similar to how the so-called Gnostic groups sprang up in the period following the Apostolic missions. Orthodoxy had not been firmly established until after Christianity became legal by the Roman authorities and subsequently supported by the emperor. Many of my New Agey friends believed that the Council of Nicaea was held to marginalize the Gnostic groups, but I learned later that this was not correct. The meeting had the effect of marginalizing them, but the real target was a doctrine floated around by one of Orthodoxy's most influential bishops, Arius of Alexandria. Arius's teaching had gained large numbers of converts among the Germanic people who were living North of the Danube at the time. Arianism, not considered to be a Gnostic tradition, became a serious threat within the next century, so the Bishops who crafted the Nicene creed were not off the mark.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
If anyone cannot grasp the spiritual truth delivered to an inquiring people as Presented in “The Gospel of Thomas” ! very little else can be said for any edification to them.
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You should make a vid on that library
I find this particularly fascinating. Mostly, as if you consider a zen bhuddist concept using merkavot(working the chariot) symbols, I could see most of this being right along this text as a result. I am not saying that conclusively, but more as a view that could have been being evoked either by accident or intentionally. I will have to read thru more of this text, and look for one thing I have noticed in other old gospel texts. Aramaic phrasings being forced into greek words. If some are present, I would then argue there is a signature of the same belief inheritance.
Thomas is unique. Zen Buddhism doesn't have the same metaphysical concepts- Buddhism doesn't really have anything like a source or a true self doctrine, it has the doctrine of emptiness and no-self (Suzuki and others used the notion of "true self" to try to teach Zen to westerners who probably wouldn't understand the doctrine of no-self, and find it distressing).
Honestly, it’s these interpretations that make Christianity make absolute & perfect sense to me & I can now embrace it
That's exactly what Satan wanted
@@tomtemple69 I bet you never ever expected to hear this but you’re absolutely correct!!! Not long after making that comment, I went into an Orthodox Church on Holy Monday. That day I was confronted with the real presence of God so intensely that the Holy Spirit drop-kicked the Gnosticism right outta me!!! I stopped wearing my crystal bracelets, got rid of all my New Age stuff & now I am in the process of being a catechumen & I’ve been attending church faithful for nearly 4 months! God is so Good & I can’t get over how He never gave up on me, even when I was so lost!! He truly is The Good Shepherd! 🙇🏻♀️☦️💖
@@VidBint you are one of the fortunate few who was willing to put aside their pride and submit to God, sad thing is we are a very tiny minority, narrow is the gate to heaven and few find it
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Very much appreciated 🙏
Imagine a world where the Gospel of Thomas was included in the New Testament...
No I want you to do that as you have read it, tell us how the world would be different.