DIY Reverse Tilting Cargo Trike #3 - Complete build

2024 ж. 18 Мам.
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This is version 1.0 of making a cargo trike. In this iteration:
- New frame - explanation of extension and head tube
- New metal wishbone suspension with ball joints
- New steering knuckles
- New 3D printed wheel hubs
- Tilting mechanism
Checkout version 0.1 and 0.2 if you haven't yet:
- 0.1: • Cargo Trike with 3D pr...
- 0.2: • Cargo trike with 3D pr...
Have fun!
Video chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:11 Frame extension
3:38 Head tube
10:00 Double wishbone suspension
14:08 Steering knuckle
15:10 Wheel hub
17:11 Frame assembly
18:52 Test riding
20:53 Steering
21:21 Suspension and tilting
22:55 Next improvements

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  • Very good about pressure adjust shock for load variation

    @sithieu9009@sithieu90099 ай бұрын
  • This is fantastic. I'm still in the drawing phase for my project so thank you for lots of ideas and practical demonstrations.

    @jackl4349@jackl4349 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm amazed at how much you managed to do with relatively few and simple tools. I need to learn how to weld.

    @littlebrother82@littlebrother82Ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much! Indeed, my policy is - work with what you have;) And I took a 3-hour welding course before starting to weld. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
    • Are you using an electric arc welder on basic home electricity for this?@@pedro-neves

      @littlebrother82@littlebrother8229 күн бұрын
    • @@littlebrother82 hello, yes, I use a gasless system with fluxed core. The machine pulls a maximum current of 17.5 A on the grid side, so suitable for a low power connection. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves28 күн бұрын
    • thanks! @@pedro-neves

      @littlebrother82@littlebrother8228 күн бұрын
    • @@littlebrother82 no prob;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves28 күн бұрын
  • A very nice build. Thanks for the details. I was always wondering how to extend the steering column.

    @TorBoy9@TorBoy9 Жыл бұрын
  • Nice build. I particularly like the nice feature of the opened “hole” in front of the crank system.

    @Luiblonc@Luiblonc8 ай бұрын
  • Take. My. Money.

    @pw11299@pw11299 Жыл бұрын
    • :)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • Lacking self love.

      @suprememasteroftheuniverse@suprememasteroftheuniverse8 ай бұрын
    • ​@@suprememasteroftheuniverse❤❤❤

      @MarcilhoDamasceno@MarcilhoDamasceno4 ай бұрын
  • it's cool to see people using simple tools trying to design the mechanisms of their dreams. beautiful vehicle! 🚴‍♂️

    @make-love-not-war-Z@make-love-not-war-Z8 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! I hope to inspire other to do the same - work with what you have to create, if that is you passion;). Just don't work without protective gear! This is very important and can be obtained inexpensively.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • Great video! Thanks for breaking it up in design element segments. Appreciate your explanation in the end... and... looking forward to your next video!!! THANKS!!

    @bicicogito989@bicicogito989 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • I am exceptionally impressed 👍. I am building a recumbent reverse trike go-kart contraption with my son. The build is really similar in design. It will help me when I get farther along. I also really appreciate seeing a backyard builder on here using their PPE, thank you too for recommending it.

    @volkswagenation@volkswagenation Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for your comment;) Happy to read that my project is helping! And pleeease use protective gear. It's just not worth getting hurt.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant work

    @danos3284@danos3284 Жыл бұрын
  • Очень впечатляет! Восхищаюсь вашей работы!Удачи!🍀

    @liudmilasireac1132@liudmilasireac11327 ай бұрын
  • Very inspiring. I made a 4 wheel pedal car 40 years ago. I gave it away. I now want E Trike. Winter work!

    @RandyMoe@RandyMoe8 ай бұрын
    • That's a great compliment, thank you very much! I do hope to inspire others to build. Would be great if you share it as well;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • Looking forward to your next video.

    @carliusanders@carliusanders4 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! I already have one more recent than this one: kzhead.info/sun/pNmJdqqBmItuaZs/bejne.htmlsi=g6GzWjwHQ3ISiO5W. And I'll release a new one in the beginning of February. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves4 ай бұрын
  • Very well done and explained. Thank you for sharing your experience 🙏

    @DunderOz@DunderOz7 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much for the kind words!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves7 ай бұрын
  • Tenho uma cargueira que usa um único tubo central. É um modelo interessante e tenho pensado muito em dia e todas à frente. Muito boa a forma que você está construindo!

    @FernandoMDB@FernandoMDB Жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting design

    @kazuza9@kazuza9 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely brilliant. You are my hero man. I am just so excited to build my own cargo bike one day soon

    @Bikemaddad@Bikemaddad5 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much! I hope you do! Making stuff is awesome;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves5 ай бұрын
  • Wow, excellent looking design.

    @kwaaaa@kwaaaa3 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves3 ай бұрын
  • Nice tilting design...

    @AbamTopeng@AbamTopeng Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome build and awesome documentation.

    @solaroweder3707@solaroweder37077 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! Love your channel too!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves7 ай бұрын
  • Nice job

    @LeadDennis@LeadDennis Жыл бұрын
  • The best i've seen on youtube, I do love different ideas.

    @woden20@woden20 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much! More iterations coming;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Anazing, beautiful, thank you do much!

    @spiriter1988@spiriter19888 ай бұрын
  • LOve the way you made the wish bone.. beautiful work. I don't have a 3D printer need to find a way to make the wheel hub out of metal. The 3D printed wheel should also be the spoke wheel for maximum rigidity. WIsh you the best.

    @badrinair@badrinair Жыл бұрын
    • Sw

      @SandaPacurar@SandaPacurar10 ай бұрын
  • Man I like this Trike very good! 👍

    @user-iw3qm7lv4y@user-iw3qm7lv4yАй бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Increible trabajo de investigacion y desarrollo. nuevo suscriptor. atento a tu trabajo, desde Mendoza, Argentina. Gracias.

    @biocargo@biocargo Жыл бұрын
    • Gracias!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome Sauce!!!

    @davidlong3696@davidlong3696 Жыл бұрын
  • Wearing eye protection in shop 👍

    @BHARGAV_GAJJAR@BHARGAV_GAJJAR8 ай бұрын
    • I hope to incentive people doing DIY work to wear protection. Low cost for saving your life!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • you made excellent thing!!!

    @user-ti4lb7rn8l@user-ti4lb7rn8l3 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves3 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much for the details - BEAUTIFUL build! You should start a business!

    @jamesfranklin5541@jamesfranklin55418 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much! I'm continuing to make new build. Maybe one day I'll have one that is great to ride and can be built at an affordable price;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • Gostei muito dessa ideia

    @claudiorodriguesalves5192@claudiorodriguesalves5192 Жыл бұрын
  • You are a genius!

    @CapitanPodd-lm2dm@CapitanPodd-lm2dm9 ай бұрын
    • You are very kind;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Show parabéns 👏 pelo projeto muito bom mesmo 👏

    @alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu@alvarobotelhovillelaaprendernu Жыл бұрын
    • Obrigado!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • You've got all kinds of patent material going on with your work.

    @Billy-cs4cc@Billy-cs4cc5 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves5 ай бұрын
  • Great work, stumbled across your video as was interested in exploring the idea of 3d printed steering knuckle for a project im doing, an electric mountainboard but with handlebar for steering to use as a mobility aid. If weight is an issue for you then would highly recommend 3d printing moulds and wet laying either carbon fibre or flax cloth, no welding required! stronger than pla and much lighter than steel. There is a technique for pressing 2 sided moulds called carbon fibre forging that may suit for the steering knuckle.

    @stefanshotton7477@stefanshotton7477 Жыл бұрын
    • I cannot express how much I want to make carbon parts that way! I have never tried it but I've seen some videos about it and it looks great. Maybe this will be the project where I'll put some carbon parts made out of printed molds!!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Que inteligência Abençoanda por Deus em irmão arrasou parabéns vc faz por Encomenda

    @claudiorodriguesalves5192@claudiorodriguesalves5192 Жыл бұрын
  • FYI, I think you need tubular spacers on the axles between the two bearings😮 this stops the nut pre-loading the bearings too much by crushing the bearings inner races together. Also, king pin inclination and Ackerman angle seem wrong to me. Team juric channel has a very good tutorial on suspension! He is building a cyclekart in Australia, and knows his stuff✅

    @rogercrier9115@rogercrier91159 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much! Ya, in the hubs I tightened the but just enough to be tight and not crush the bearing but a spacer would indeed be better. For the king pin - yes, I learned this recently;) I have a big scrub radius. I'm redesigning the king pin for 0 deg. About the steering - also agree. Actually, the whole dimensions are full of tolerances. On the next version I'll put a serious effort in making the dimensions accurate. I'll check the channel that you recommend. Thank you for the tips!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • excelente!

    @fer-x5764@fer-x57649 ай бұрын
  • mantap bang

    @witosarlaw@witosarlaw6 ай бұрын
  • My opinion is that the steering axle of each wheel, should be point more close to the place where the tire touches the ground. I mean a steering geometry, similar to a regular bike. I guess that the steering of this trike in this configuration will be influenced by small obstacles on the road. But maybe the steering setup was already changed, or the described effect is very small. I am riding a kind of cargo recumbent trike which is also tilting.

    @olivervehling2764@olivervehling2764Ай бұрын
    • Hello, I totally agree with your observation about the distance of the steering axle to the place where the tire touches the ground. This can be fixed by adding an angle between the upper and lower ball joints. I showed this in this video if you're interested: kzhead.info/sun/pJaAhL6ca2RuqYU/bejne.htmlsi=a6SMrjKUDZMQHY_Q. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Muito bom, vc e um cara inteligente!

    @RicardoAlves-wc6ps@RicardoAlves-wc6ps Жыл бұрын
    • Obrigado Ricardo! Espero que tire proveito do video;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • That's how a velocargo should be IMO. With added cargo weight, redundancy in safety is even more important. Not needing a beefy stand is also very nifty on a heavily loaded bike.

    @SEThatered@SEThatered6 ай бұрын
  • Fantastic build and I really like that you accomplished the design and implementation of a complex piece of engineering with only simple tools in what looks like the back garden of your flat. It shows you don't need an expensive workshop to do great things. Would you consider sharing some of the designs for the double-wishbone suspension?

    @Jon-mf2no@Jon-mf2no10 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much! It is my small backyard plus a 3x2 meter shed;) I promise that I will share the drawings of all the parts of the next build (including the wishbones)!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves You've really inspired me to try something similar. Thank you so much.

      @Jon-mf2no@Jon-mf2no10 ай бұрын
  • You need to add some camber and caster angle in the front and it will feel much much better

    @HomeDistiller@HomeDistiller9 ай бұрын
    • I will test this with the design that I am making now. I'm making a setup with adjustable caster, camber, scrub radius and steering ratio. I'll try to find the best geometry!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Nice video and presentation. I noticed the new suspension has no built in tilted head tube angle for a Trail length which is a standard in all two wheels bikes. It relates to dynamic balance and stability.

    @philoso377@philoso377Ай бұрын
    • Thank you! That's a very good point! Since this version I made a few more iterations and I shared some geometry analysis. You can find it here if you're interested: kzhead.info/sun/pJaAhL6ca2RuqYU/bejne.htmlsi=ANjAb6xR_AW3Pyy8. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Ficou legal Pedro. Deve ser gostoso conduzir.

    @cckerber@cckerber9 ай бұрын
    • Obrigado! Ainda precisa de ns melhoramentos;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • I'm not so sure about the steering and 3d printed wheel parts, but I love the suspension and tilting design. There's some fancy complicated designs for cargo bike steering here on yt, but two steel break lines tensioned equally would most likely do better than the pushing rods setup you have going on. Very interesting build, though. I'd like to see what other improvements you can come up with. Cheers!

    @PaulSpades@PaulSpades9 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! The 3D parts are there just for testing the geometry. The next hubs will be made of aluminium;) In the next version I will have adjustable caster, camber, scrub radius and steering ratio to make a comparative analysis and I'm considering steel cables for the steering;) Hope you enjoy my next video! It takes a while because it's a hobby project but it's very enjoyable. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
    • Ils semblent que les deux roues avant sont auto stables à l'arrêt

      @phiphi70@phiphi709 ай бұрын
  • cool

    @snakelakeestates8666@snakelakeestates8666 Жыл бұрын
  • Nice! Have you considered giving a slight positive caster angle to your front wheels? I believe it'll make the trike steering more stable and might also help a bit with the front suspension

    @chienbanane3168@chienbanane31689 ай бұрын
    • Nice point, thank you! Actually, I'm working on a setup where I can adjust Caster, Camber, Scrub Radius and Steering Ratio. My next video will have tests, results, and a comparative analysis;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Cool

    @mikegordon6870@mikegordon6870 Жыл бұрын
  • Grinder and paint makes me the welder i ain't ;-) Nice build and interesting wheel design, needs a TIG welder, fluxcore is horrible for thin stuff.

    @hinz1@hinz1Ай бұрын
    • Aah, couldn't agree more! I'm a terrible welder with bad tools. In fact, the next investment for my shop is a TIG welder. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Roata din față -stînga este compromisă.

    @nicudragomir3657@nicudragomir365710 ай бұрын
    • True. These wheels were not super rigid. I made new ones in the meantime;) Check it out here if you're interested: kzhead.info/sun/prlrirdvhZ6YnWg/bejne.html

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • Muhteşem

    @volkankahraman4497@volkankahraman449711 ай бұрын
  • Молодець! 👍👍👍

    @user-ip8bx8in2r@user-ip8bx8in2r9 ай бұрын
  • Muito bom

    @DDiegoBigode@DDiegoBigode Жыл бұрын
  • Disc brake calipers? Also, the long frame tube you added, would make a great place to mount batteries inside for an e-bike. /btw: you are a fabrication genius

    @normanmadden@normanmadden10 ай бұрын
    • Very well put, thank you for the constructive comment! I haven't mounted the calipers yet but they are considered - they will be mounted on the interface between ball bearings and axles. As for the batteries, I also agree with you;) once I have a mechanical setup that I am happy with, I'll start converting it to electric. In the next version, I'll show a version with some geometries that can be changed to do a comparative analysis. Stay tuned;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • This is the trike I want to steal all the way to South Korea.

    @ssamorang@ssamorang9 ай бұрын
    • That's the beauty of the internet;) You can take it almost anywhere;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Wow great job. You are an inspiration to others. Cargo bikes are a good idea but just too expensive. I think if you have wide handle bars on the bike you will have a more 1 to 1 turn effect with the wheels for steering, the wider bar makes you move it more for the same turn effect. What do you think about making and selling the front part because this is most of the build?

    @utubeape@utubeape29 күн бұрын
    • Hello, thank you very much! Indeed, I have considered selling kits. But only when I reached the point where it's very good and very durable. There are a couple of iterations newer than the one in this video. If you check my channel, you can find the newest on this playlist. I'm now working on some improvements. Maybe this will be the version where I can sell some parts;) Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves28 күн бұрын
  • Please reinforce the frame at the head tube extension, it looks like it'll be under huge stress if there were cargo on the front, and you cut out the part that would normally carry most of that. The double wishbones look quite solid, but from there to the tire it looks quite flimsy. Might be not just the hub, but also the sheet metal, or there's not enough distance between the bearings to resist the bending load?

    @Flapdr01@Flapdr01 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for caring! Adding cargo will definitely be a new phase and I'll add robustness to the frame. As of the hub, I don't think it's bending at this point. The first thing (which will be the next part of the project) will be to make strong wheels because they are bending.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Hi Pedro. Many good ideas, very clever made !!! And nice made video + well explaned too🙂 What determind how much the bicycle tilt ?. I'm thinking if you could benefit from these improvements ideeas: * Only one long steering-rod, but thicker and stiffer ? Maybe supported in the middle * A little Camber at the front wheels steering-knuckles, for better selfcorrecting after turning ? * Centerpoint steering, at the front wheels steering-knuckles, for more stable steering when hitting e.g. a holes in the road ? Maybee have a look at Atomic Zombies e.g. "Streetfighter" plans, where all these issues are well explained Keep up the good work ! 🙂 Kind Regards, Kjeld

    @kjeldholm7370@kjeldholm7370 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much Kjeld! Regarding your question - I started designing with only one constraint - the width. I wanted the trike to be able to pass on most doors. The tilting limits were a consequence of this constraint and the double wishbone design. In fact, the limits are never reached while riding which I think is good. Regarding you suggestions - they are most appreciated! I am now redesigning the wheels because I want spokes and then I'll focus hard in the steering to make sure it's good. Hope you'll watch the results;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • very cool design . an E version would be also be nice .

    @siriosstar4789@siriosstar4789Ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much! Actually, my next video about the trike will be the electric conversion;) Already got the kit;) Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • what are the tube OD and ID? I had a similar idea, but was concerned about the flex (especially with the cargo weight, say, extra 100 kg). Tandem bikes have a double A-frame. Cool soundproofing BTW :)

    @runcycleskixc@runcycleskixc10 ай бұрын
    • Hi there! The tube is 60 x 56 mm (wall of 2 mm). I think there's barely any flex. Super rigid. But I haven't tried with cargo yet. Still making changes to the tilting mechanism. Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • From 19.30 onwards is the left front wheel slightly buckled. It appears to have a wobble in it. Nice job though.

    @robertwillis4061@robertwillis406110 ай бұрын
    • Ya, the 3D printed wheels were to super rigid indeed. I already made a new version. Check it out here if you're interested: kzhead.info/sun/prlrirdvhZ6YnWg/bejne.html

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • On a conventional recumbent trike the steering axles are pointing exactly at where the wheels touch the gound at an angle. I hope this info help.

    @VacuousCat@VacuousCat Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! I believe I understand what you mean. I've been reading and watching a lot of material about steering geometry. There will be a lot of theory put in practice in the next version for sure;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Like a bakfiets. I guess the two wheels up front can make steering harder.

    @punkdigerati@punkdigerati Жыл бұрын
    • The steering is not yet great. But I am thinking that the steering will be as great as in a two wheeler. I'm inspired by other 3 wheelers such as the Piaggio MP3. One of the advantages of the 3 wheel systems is that it decreases the crash rate. On a bike, the front wheel slipping will probably cause a crash but not on a trike.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool!hi maybe i can have the 3d model of the front suspension? i like very much it

    @BridgeValley3Dprinting@BridgeValley3Dprinting8 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! This version is still a little bit improvised. I will share all the 3D models in the next version.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • I think a 10 speed transmission would be better for a cargo bike.

    @danieloblinger1199@danieloblinger11998 ай бұрын
    • It needs low gears for sure if I am to pull cargo up hill! I also intend to add an electric drive.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • How well did the solid PLA hub hold up? Love the design btw, especially front

    @ChristianBorrman@ChristianBorrman Жыл бұрын
    • The PLA hub is the most resilient 3D printed part in the whole design! It's still rolling. I'm working on the new version and have been riding it around and the hub is just there, as it was. Note - I am not advising to have a PLA hub! This is just to test the design. You need a metal hub.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves yep, don’t worry was asking as a proto!

      @ChristianBorrman@ChristianBorrman Жыл бұрын
  • Those welds won't win any beauty contest but good job anyway.

    @plain_and_simple@plain_and_simple10 ай бұрын
    • No they won't;) I will transition to TIG welding at some point and work harder on proper welding but for now I'm still super novice. Thank you!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • Sücht goud uut un foahrt ook goud awer wenn du nu vörn mehr gewicht upschmieten deist bün ik neej mehr so secker of dien vörderbau dat uuthollen deit. De 3D version seech een beeten stabiler uut ook wenn de neej uut metall weer. Sall ja eenglich een cargobike ween🤔 anners is dat ding echt top😍

    @lockevonderfeuerwehr3708@lockevonderfeuerwehr37086 ай бұрын
  • this is awesome, cant wait to make one

    @gravitysdaughtr@gravitysdaughtrАй бұрын
    • Thank you! I hope you do! It's very rewarding to ride your own build. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Hola, me ha gustado el vídeo está bien interesante pero, tengo, una pregunta. ¿ el anchó que le dio a la parte delantera, es igual al largó del manubrio? Un gran saludo a la distancia 🌎 Desde cuscatancingo, san salvador, El SALVADOR, C, A.

    @luisaguilar6672@luisaguilar6672 Жыл бұрын
    • Hola Luis, si, es parecida. Quería que el triciclo pudiera pasar por una puerta;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • panes mata bichos en bicicleta !!

      @yetroyetro3452@yetroyetro3452 Жыл бұрын
  • Could you share where you bought the bushings and ball joints for the wishbones?

    @maakmeneer@maakmeneerАй бұрын
    • Hello, sure! Here is a link to the ball joints: www.profibohrer.de/M12-angle-ball-joint-rod-end-bearing-SQ-12-RS. The bushings, I 3D printed them (just an experiment). Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • hey Pedro :) Do you have any link about the Ball joints ? where to buy ?

    @frommyashesrisenrebornredemed@frommyashesrisenrebornredemed4 ай бұрын
    • Hello, sure, here it is: www.profibohrer.de/M12-angle-ball-joint-rod-end-bearing-SQ-12-RS. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves4 ай бұрын
  • Lovely work man! how but that bad boy must weigh quite a lot? still really funny concept tinkering on my on simular project! :D

    @Antiairdevil2@Antiairdevil211 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! Yeah, it's a little bit heavy for sure. Final version has to be on an aluminium frame;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves11 ай бұрын
  • In conclusion, there are multiple reasons why trikes have two wheels in the back with one single wheel up front.

    @plasticman3952@plasticman39525 ай бұрын
    • The two wheels could be in back and would stabilize the trike on slanted roads. It's perfect with a motor on the front wheel.

      @Billy-cs4cc@Billy-cs4cc5 ай бұрын
    • With recumbents it’s common to have the two wheels on the front. Though these wheels are very large, and the design is mostly there to give you room for your feet.

      @AWriterWandering@AWriterWanderingАй бұрын
  • Nice build. Can you tell me how long is the wishbone in the suspension?

    @Failer__@Failer__ Жыл бұрын
    • Hello Failer, the wishbone is 164 mm long.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves is that from joint to joint? Looks a lot longer on the video. Thanks anyway.

      @Failer__@Failer__ Жыл бұрын
    • @@Failer__ Actually, the 164 mm is of the wishbone only from the bushings to it's limits so there is an extra ~ 5 cm of the ball joint part. So from joint to joint 169 mm.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Мастер!

    @user-kw1kp2sp3o@user-kw1kp2sp3o Жыл бұрын
  • Pedro, mas essas peças em 3d não seria muito frágil pra uma bicicleta de carga?

    @Igorcavallera22@Igorcavallera228 ай бұрын
    • Olá Igor, boa observação! Sim, são muito frágeis. Elas são feitas por impressão 3D só para ver se funcionam. Os próximos hubs serão feitos de alumínio.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • hola pedro . podría comprar los planos para imprimir las piezas?

    @octaviosanchez1584@octaviosanchez15849 ай бұрын
    • Hola, gracias por estar interesado! Mi próxima versión será mucho mejor. Y prometo compartir todos los dibujos.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • I think putting rider in the back is a huge design flow. Limits your cargo volume drastically.

    @user-pm8je4fo7e@user-pm8je4fo7e10 ай бұрын
    • Hi there! Ya, I understand what you are saying. And I think there are benefits for both designs. One benefit that I see for having cargo in the front is e.g. transporting kids and being able to see them while you ride.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
    • ​@@pedro-neves Hey! Yeah, I get the temptation. Although personally I would still go with back seats because of the pain of million blind corners in urban areas. It's been a year now. What would you say about this particular issue, what's your experience?

      @user-pm8je4fo7e@user-pm8je4fo7e10 ай бұрын
    • @@user-pm8je4fo7e very good point! This really shows how it's good to discuss things and have different experience and point of view! My experience is mainly from Amsterdam, where I live. Most people here that own cargo bikes and trikes have the cargo bay in the front so this influenced me. I also tried a couple and I liked the driving experience. Riding a bike is very safe because there is space exclusive to bikes and there is usually pretty good visibility around the corners because you have the road on your left and the sidewalk on your right. Nevertheless, your point is still valid. I would like to see a study that shows which configuration is safer.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
    • ​@@pedro-neves Thanks for sharing! In my experience there is clear ridgeline: if you mainly travel on general purpose roads alongside with cars, then it's frontseats for precious cargo. If you drive sidewalks - then it's backseats. I've been to Amsterdam long time ago, it was my understanding that you mainly have dedicated bike lanes as a part of carriageway. In my city in Russia dedicated bike paths are almost exclusively a part of sidewalks or are completely separated, but on intersections they still merge with sidewalks, not carriageway, so having a great deal of blind corners in residential areas is inevitable. Hence my stance. It wasn't too bad until e-scooter rascals came to scene tho. I thought maybe bike-rikshas could give the ultimate answer since they withstood a trial of time and numbers, but no, turns out they differ from country to country. Although they are more or less consistant among the same country, which could be the tell that there is something else to the choice besides historical heritage, it's still hard to say from here what exactly are the reasons behind design choices in each case. Hope this whole exercise of ours will give somebody a food for thought. Have a nice day!

      @user-pm8je4fo7e@user-pm8je4fo7e9 ай бұрын
    • @@user-pm8je4fo7e thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts! Indeed history plays a role. Once people get used to a certain system, this looks the best until someone somehow proves that something else is better. It's also obvious that cargo in the rear or in the front has different popularities per region. I try to explore different possibilities with my exercise. After I reach the limit of how this system can be, who knows? Maybe I'll test cargo in the rear;) Thanks and have a great day!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • I am not an expert, but I wonder if it would be safer to pay a local turner to lathe the wheel hubs out of solid Aluminum. Everything looks very solid, but not sure about the PLA wheel hubs.

    @runcycleskixc@runcycleskixc10 ай бұрын
    • The PLA hubs are certainly not reliable. These were made just for validating geometry. The next ones will be made out of aluminium just as you said.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves Thank you for posting your build. It's inspirational.

      @runcycleskixc@runcycleskixc10 ай бұрын
  • Very Nice, where are you from?

    @diegoamaral7417@diegoamaral741710 ай бұрын
    • Thank you very much! I'm from Portugal.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • Better to use cables for the steeringsystem.

    @j.r.arnolli9734@j.r.arnolli97346 ай бұрын
    • I agree! And I will switch at some point;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves6 ай бұрын
  • Wait, are those funky rims are 3d printed just like that?

    @VEC7ORlt@VEC7ORlt2 ай бұрын
    • Hello, the rim is metallic and the inside is 3D printed. I used the spoke holes to screw the rim into the 3D printed part. But this was not rigid enough, unfortunately. I have made new wheels since then. See them here if you're interested:kzhead.info/sun/prlrirdvhZ6YnWg/bejne.htmlsi=7Q-SHwpNYh62S-Bn. And now I'm working on yet a new version of the wheels;) Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves2 ай бұрын
  • The Steering looks a little nervus ? May be must change the Steering Transmission ?

    @heikowalter8239@heikowalter8239 Жыл бұрын
    • It is nervous;) you are right. There is a lot of elasticity between the steering bar and the wheels. My next improvement will be actually new wheels and then the steering.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves I got the same Problem and I make it better with longer handel Way to steer the Frontweels !👍

      @heikowalter8239@heikowalter8239 Жыл бұрын
  • Where did you find 3 bolt wheel rims?

    @roberthosking7524@roberthosking7524Ай бұрын
    • Hello, I 3D printed the inside and fastened to a steel rim. Checkout how I did it here: kzhead.info/sun/f6qgZsivf6Ofa5s/bejne.htmlsi=X1YkktPCd0uhcw1H&t=246. But, I don't recommend this. Unfortunately, the wheels were not strong enough. I have a video just on how I made the current wheels: kzhead.info/sun/f6qgZsivf6Ofa5s/bejne.htmlsi=X1YkktPCd0uhcw1H&t=246. And I'm working on the version 3 of the wheels. I believe these will be the best ones;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-nevesАй бұрын
  • Вы показали как делали передний мост и рулевое управление

    @archiwart3322@archiwart33225 ай бұрын
  • When will we see the panic stop test results?

    @plasticman3952@plasticman39525 ай бұрын
    • I hope there won't be any panic but here's the newest version: kzhead.info/sun/pNmJdqqBmItuaZs/bejne.htmlsi=TKEFXlbEvP4MjyTc Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves5 ай бұрын
  • any comparison video on tilting point on 22:38 ?

    @ZuNunchaku@ZuNunchaku22 күн бұрын
    • Hello, I tested with the tilting mechanism locked and did not like it. This is because it no longer behaves like a bike, it behaves like a quad, which I think is worse. Then, I actually built a trike with lots of adjustable geometries and made a comparative study. You are welcome to check it out here: kzhead.info/sun/pJaAhL6ca2RuqYU/bejne.htmlsi=cgT6QeiBwYq5qcaE. Cheers!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves22 күн бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves yeah i watch all your videos, what if the nut is on top of the holes vs on very lower. or no nut. it will move the point of tilting. there is no information from your video

      @ZuNunchaku@ZuNunchaku22 күн бұрын
    • @@ZuNunchaku, ah, sorry. Now I understand your question. Those holes don't actually change the point of tilting. The point of tilting is defined by where the wishbones are fastened to. Those holes only define the degree of freedom of one side pushing the other. At the time it made sense to me to test, but now I don't think it makes a difference as long as you make it in a place where it can move. Hope this answers your question.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves22 күн бұрын
  • does it have ackermann steering_

    @toroddlnning6806@toroddlnning68069 ай бұрын
    • Hi;) Good question! Yes, I designed for that but let me be honest - with the tolerance of my fabrication it ends up not being very exact. My next build will have more accurate parts and jigs to make sure everything is super aligned.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Where did you get the front wheels from?

    @nilsbeck8392@nilsbeck8392 Жыл бұрын
    • Hi Nils, I used a standard rim and 3D printed the center. You can see how it's made in this video: kzhead.info/sun/f6qgZsivf6Ofa5s/bejne.html Now, I have an improved version of the wheels. You can see how it's made in this video dedicated to the wheels: kzhead.info/sun/prlrirdvhZ6YnWg/bejne.html

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • What is the turn radius on this bike ?

    @pooddescrewch8718@pooddescrewch8718 Жыл бұрын
    • It's about 3m but the steering will be completely redone. I'll make sure to specify this number in the video!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
  • Das nenne ich Fortschritt und Innovation. 👍👍

    @miorieser3210@miorieser32108 ай бұрын
  • Predetermined breaking point steering tube......

    @p.wikary9435@p.wikary94357 ай бұрын
  • As for the welds being alright but not looking good as you stated, A good weld will be good and look good without grinding. A bad looking weld speaks volumes as to the quality (or lack) of the penetration. I'd like to see a bend test of your welds.

    @ravenouspathogen@ravenouspathogen8 ай бұрын
    • Yes, I agree that my welds are not good. As many things in this trike, they are meant to serve a purpose in a prototype. A production version would need professional welds.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves8 ай бұрын
  • nice video, but i dont trust the pla parts

    @jalokin6554@jalokin65549 ай бұрын
    • Thank you! And you are right;) I don't trust the PLA parts either;) I made them to test geometry but will replace with metal parts.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves9 ай бұрын
  • Why the length?

    @balloney2175@balloney21755 ай бұрын
    • Hello, this is a design for a cargo trike. When I'm finished working on suspension and steering I'll fit a cargo bay there;)

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves5 ай бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves Okidoki

      @balloney2175@balloney21755 ай бұрын
  • в чем изюминка этого велосипеда?

    @user-nb7nl4ss8e@user-nb7nl4ss8e10 ай бұрын
    • For me it's the fact that it's a trike. I want to make it this way to be more stable and safe than a bike.

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves10 ай бұрын
  • the concept is pretty cool, not a generic cargo bike. but the hub and its bearings is not good. as an engineer i can see a few constructive flaws with it. not accounting for using 3d-printing parts, that can easily deform or delaminate in bad conditions. if you assemble further bearings, do your bearings a favor and only beat/apply force to the outer race.

    @jekker1000@jekker1000 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks a lot! Yeah, I won't beat the bearings any more for sure... I'll press them next time;) As for the 3D printed parts, they will never be production parts. They're just there to validate design and I'll change to metal once I think I have a final design. I also expect that the kind of bearings that I'm using is not the best. If you have any extended notes on choosing the right bearings I would be happy to consider!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
    • @@pedro-neves really cool to hear this. as to eliminate some of the shortcomings, i'd not only do a press-fit with the bearings but to also secure the outer race with a Circlip. And i don't know what sort of bearings you got. I assume generic roller bearings. So you'd need a fastened and a loose side. To better construct this with the limited space there is, you may also consider deep groove bearings or tapered roller bearings in o configuration.

      @jekker1000@jekker1000 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jekker1000 , I deeply appreciate the advice. I mean to construct something via an iterative process that will be really good after some point. I will certainly consider those types of bearings for the next iteration of the hubs!

      @pedro-neves@pedro-neves Жыл бұрын
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