I Ordered An iPhone 13 From China And This Is What I Received
Your fancy iPhone might be e-waste if breaks and cannot be repaired but this
"Alps IP 13 Pro Max" is manufactured as e-waste.
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On the bright side, at least the parts are not paired to the logic board.
🤣 yall just won't let that go
@@GameN3rdz well it's a dick move...
True
@@GameN3rdz they never should. This is the biggest cancer in the industry.
@@GameN3rdz not like hugh left the opportunity to kill apple about the headphone jack
If you guys don't know what processor is running on it, my guess would be a MediaTek MT6580 because most "welcome" branded clone phones use that
I see a Smoorez fan right there!
100%
@@everydayblind same
Looks like it since only 4 of the "10 cores" it says on geekbench is running and geekbench says its a 28nm architecture with mali-400 mp graphics on it.
Yeah, that was my first thought when i saw the phone "this is a welcome device" XD
Still, just 15 years ago, this would have been the most amazing piece of tech ever
Not even 15. More like 10
Just? 😂
@@the_meinssgss2736 15 years is nothing to old farts like me lol
@@mkaney805 quite amazing for an old fart like you. Most farts dont even last above 5 minutes
More like 150 year ago! 😂
Quite surprised at the fact that they have actually used adhesive for the battery and didn't just let it wobble around 😃😃
The glue is the most expensive thing they put in it
Build quality 📈📈
At $120? This is one hell of an expensive e-waste
better a samsung or xiaomi at that price, at least you got something better lol
at this price i can buy 2nd hand xiaomi mi A1 or redmi 5 which is better than these
@@luisfernandocarlos3692 but Xiomi is trash and I am using the Redmi note 10 pro so imma switch phones some point in the future but not a Xiomi
@@soacespacestation8556 yes I know xiaomi is trash but the phones that I've mentioned before we're the best phones in $120 price range rather than these fake iphone i own a fake iphone in 2015 and that was the worst phone that i got
@@soacespacestation8556 atleast it's better than this fake clone
When you buy an iPhone and you see "Welcome" you can say "Goodbye" to your money.
😂😂😂
When your "iPhone" is fucking running Android theres a problem
Or is missing the Apple logo altogether on the back of the phone. Or comes with “that” charger and a piece of paper saying mobile manual. Or you’re paying slightly over $100
Wat the fuck
🤣🤣😂😂
“It's like saying this phone is an apple Samsung 13 pro max ultra” I died right there.🤣
R.I.P.
Yeah right china screw everything to make people believe😂
Seriously! 😂😂
The fact that it has a headphone jack and USB C itself is an upgrade over the real iPhone.
For real
I remember seeing a phone like this come into our shop a while back. The guy dropped it and wanted to see if we could fix the screen and we told him that it was a bootleg phone and we couldn't get parts. He said he wasn't surprised and went out to buy a real phone. Funny story now, but we felt bad for the guy who fell for some nonsense.
I'd have kept it as a cool little keepsake of the kind of sneaky 💩 china gets up to, they're clever when securing the bag
@@googlelord1678 right
kzhead.info/sun/eriBnKejbph7gpE/bejne.html Finally it's here.
I have a similar story from a shop I worked in, but a customer brought in a "Huawei" phone like this, with the same "Welcome" boot screen and wanted us to "install normal software" :-)
I think its a lot more easier to get this knock off screen replacement than to get iPhone screen replacement from Apple.
As requested I messaged the seller a link to the video. Unfortunately China blocks access to KZhead so I had to summarise the video and attach images instead. He responded as follows: *Seller* "Hello, is this our accessory? Please don't disassemble the phone casually. Our memory is 8 256GB" *Me* "Yes this phone is from your store. Don't worry disassembly was done professionally and shared with a few hundred thousand people online. As such people are now aware of this scam. The specs of this phone are a lie and misleading to consumers. Shame you cannot visit the link and watch the video. I think you would hate it." *Seller* Hello, we did not cheat, we also raised our doubts *Me* Please elaborate on what you mean by doubts. *Seller* The mobile phone parts you removed. *Me* What about them? Are you aware the real specs of the phone are not what you listed? *Seller* Hello, our mobile phone is exactly what is described on the page. With no admission of guilt from the seller I went about getting my money back. AliExpress wouldn't allow me to open a case against the seller as it had been more than 15 days. So opened a PayPal case and got all my money back excluding return shipping which was about $20. The sellers page has since been removed
good
bruhhh
You can try Activity Launcher to launch secret apps to change the specifications.
Can you also dump the firmware?
I never thought the disassembly was "casual" either.
This one has become one of my most favorite videos. Loved the way you exposed them😄
I used to work for Apple and we would see these on occasion. The first clue was the owner could not log in to iTunes. Also, the weight was slightly different than a genuine phone.
I actually had a customer come in with one of these in the United States. I refused to activate it due to it only that the back of the phone came off, but its IMEI inside the phone and the back battery storage were not only different, but the internal IMEI read as a Samsung Flip phone. The phone's UI was one for one of an Apple's UI on the home screen, but the lock and all other pages were of Android. I told the person that they would need to return the device from where they purchased it from.
Holy FCC guidelines batman
Probably a good call. Quite a sticky situation and you avoided it.
kzhead.info/sun/eriBnKejbph7gpE/bejne.html Finally it's here.
I used to work for a wireless carrier and had a similar situation. A guy came in asking to connect his iPhone to our prepaid and it was basically the same thing in the video, the IMEI didn't even pull up in our system and when he asked why I told him it was a fake iPhone but he actually got mad at me for calling it fake... I sent him on his way and wished him the best of luck
What do you mean by 'activate'? You just chuck your SIM in and off you go.
I'd evaluate this "phone" as worse than a Samsung s2 as the second one is an actual phone, which you can find for around 2-5$, just enough to get a pack of smokes here in Romania. 120$ is more than 30 times it's value. I still wonder who falls for this kind of scams nowadays
Typically seniors fall for it who aren't very tech savvy
@@UhrwerkKlockwerx It literally says i13 Pro Max.. how do you get that confused with iPhone
@@vezern. most old people probably still think the Apple Watch is called an iWatch😂
@@vezern. dementia i guess
@@vezern. You would be surprised what's they can fall for. I can tell you first hand as an ex-AT&T employee that I've heard some very sad stories in that regard.
The reason why I am not comfortable buying high-ticket items on online stores. Here in the Philippines, tons of these fake iPhones are flooding the major online stores, choking the legit ones. And not just phones, too-even tablets.
Better if all sites like lazada and shopee be blocked forever until both of them be a philippine owned company
Outstanding video, helping buyers to not get ripped off. Your findings were truly horrific, everything about the device was fraudulent and garbage. Thank you for using your knowledge and skills to help others.
ok but would anyone actually fall for it anyway
Yes, busting scammers is for the common good, but would someone really pay $120 for a recent-gen iPhone and expect it to be the real deal? That price tag literally implies that it's fake...
@@patrickliao8990 Experience has shown that some hugely gullible people actually believe advertising claims no matter how utterly ludicrous they are. I'm reminded of the phrase, "if it look too good to be true, it probably is".
I got a Samsung S8 clone, and literally it has the same internals, same charging port as well the motherboard, i see it has a custom back camera flex, and that empty connector you mentioned, in the fake S8 is used as the notification led.
The S8 camera is also in the top middle right in that hole on the motherboard.
The S8 is pretty old now its going for around $100, why dont you get the real deal?
You probably shouldn’t buy obviously fake phones
@@tf2scoutpunch175 you probably right bud. But i said i got a phone, that doesn't mean i use the phone on a daily basis, i am a current owner of an s22 ultra, i got a bunch of phones from ebay auctions and in one of them was this fake s8.
@@ChristopherChapelle it's not that i want, they come in a bundle when i buy phones to repair, and i just store them
My biggest concern would not be being out $120 for the cost of the phone but would be if this a was a phone designed for phishing information. This would put identity theft on a new level!
If it has anything Huawei on it, it's definitely a consumer spyware product.
interesting idea
When my kids were young the first phones we got them were cheap Android phones from China as we knew they were likely to get broken. They actually turned out to be quite usable phones and lasted two years.
I actually had a 100 dollar smartphone from China back in 2017, it was a Redmi 4A. I'm actually surprised it's still bootable and usable albeit with a fast-draining battery even 5 years on. Comes to show that some reputable Chinese brands still have proper quality controls no matter how cheap their phones are.
You can desolder the battery connections and do a timed drain test to determine exactly what the battery capacity is. It's pretty simple.
Man, I'd make a killing making my own budget phones if they had acceptable specs and had a similar luxury appearance.
Go to China.. you can do it. I know what city lol
Back in the days there were a lot of iPhone/Nokia clones that had acceptable specs and worked similar to other low end phones from that era. I think there's just no more demand for these clones as it was back in 2010~2013
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There are literally millions of people doing exactly that in China. Most of them lying about their specs and the ones being truthful are going bankrupt as we speak.
Just buy budget phones from brands like Redmi, Iqoo, and the like. They already look premium and have decent specs.
Based on the components and the build, I don't doubt it's made spesifically to bait people on aesthetic similarity to the iPhone. They always have the bare minimum components and specs to function. At this point I reckon there is a factory or three dedicated to these scammy kind of phones
What's the battery life of this sussy imposter? ;) Also, the background song is Vibe Tracks - Universal, just in case you are wondering.
I wonder how much do they pull vs the real apple/foxcon workers?
@@thatguyalex2835 probably about 5 minutes
It costs 1/10th the price of an iPhone. So realistically it only needs to be 1/10th as good, and it's not bad for the price
would agree, there is no subject material on parts re used for other than intended, fake phones made by durable company ustilizing fake components ,nope they wouldnt do such a thing!
When i was a kid, My dad bought me a nokLa when he came back from Hong Kong. It's nice for 2008. It has a tv antennae so i can watch football anywhere, pressure touchscreen, and decent speaker
Thank, this was revealing. I myself was shocked not only by the number of Samsung s23, 22,21 clones, but also the sheer variety of "Porsche Design" Huawei phones. What an industry! The prices are incredible... Under $100 Canadian. Cheers 🍻
“What are you talking about” says the seller when told real storage and RAM 😂… either unaware employee that is just there or aware and taking the piss… A pity that this kind of garbage still exists, for that money a low end but usable Realme, Oppo, Xiaomi, etc can be bought and if lucky even a low-mid range one 🤦🏻
It is NOT advertised as an iPhone by the seller. There are always people who cannot afford top-notch iPhones but still want to impress friends and neighbors. These toys are the vanity phones that they need.
6:12 the fact that it has a warranty sticker is absolutely hilarious lol
Most tech from China will usually have that "passed" or "tested" sticker somewhere on it.
Amazing 3 cameras!!! (Amazing sticker) beautiful!
At least you don't need 5 different types of screws to disassemble the phone
Huawei P30 Pro also only has one type of screw, and they're all the same length even. Except two tiny ones which hold the ear piece.
Makes you wonder what the true reason behind the US banning Huawei was!
USB-C charging/data port plus headphone jack and Philips screws. Apple could learn something.
You are still stuck in the early 2000s
how to laugh at you ?
I can't even get my photos out of an iphone these days.
@@j.a.3138 Y'all are still stuck in 2009 💀
When you removed the rear, I was fully expecting to see a cockroach on a bicycle powering it...😄
I had one of these fir a mess around not a great phone but if you can get one cheep enough it's worth a laugh, yes they are very slow but I wish someone would make one of these with better specs as the housing looks pretty good for a fake. Just needs more storage, more ram, better cameras and better screen then it would be worth the money. Plus needs newer android on it. Great video as always.
Your starting to become a comedian Hugh good stuff great video.
Love the channel keep up the great work
I'm more curious about watching the data between the phone and the internet with wireshark. I wonder if it would check back home to mainland china.
Thanks, I'd buy one but for the camera. I am disappointed that you never tested the most important thing, the actual phone / call experience ☕️
"It'll certainly burn your house down pretty quickly" pulling out all the stops 🤣
It's a Welcome device, check Smoorez's channel who reviews lots of these clones.
Could be Goophone as well
The moment I saw the "Welcome", I heard the starting sound in my head. I watched too much of SMOOREZ's videos 🙂
It would be great to have some insider look at the shops/engineers that create such frankensteins.
Yes, send the seller this video to see his reaction because I wanna know what he would say. 👀😶
I'm curious as well. My guess is the seller doesn't know the full story of the device but I could be wrong.
Likely wont give a single crap since he got the money
Chineese are afraid to loose their face. Thetefore they reject any weong doing. It’s time we sink china!
due to communism and media control China will not allow slaved people to see youtube. Their Government control all information.But state run hackers can steal files from any country of all Western inventions
@@Rusty_Gold85 true and straight facts 💯👀👍🏾
You should talk to KZheadr SMOOREZ he’s testing these welcome phones and can tell you more about them. As well as how to spoof the ram and storage.
I love that KZheadr!!!!
2:14 that delay got me 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
Hugh the brand is welcome,When phone is on u enter a code an u can change memory etc,your fellow Australian KZheadr smorez done a tear dwn a few months bk.
That type of motherboard was used in producing the Samsung S5 up until the s10 model replicas. I saw a lot of this on my repair bench.
I bought one of these at the airport in Shanghai for $40. I figured, I'd risk it and would have a good story at the least. After I paid, the guys literally ran away but it must have looked like this inside. I know the earphones shocked my ears.
ahaha
This is great. Good job man. Thanks for saving me. I nearly was going to buy one 😂 😂 😂
i found a refurbished iPhone SE (2nd generation) on walmart, that was locked to a carrier for about $150. although i wasn't the one to order it, it actually came with what it was advertised, even was in almost perfect condition beside a cosmetic scratch on the back glass. although i don't know how well you could trust that with walmart. it was a great deal for me at least, cause i wanted to get a new phone.
You can 'remove' that scratch too with resin fixers they sell for windscreens and such.
That sounds about right for a 2nd gen SE. Mainly because the MVNOs subsidized the s**t out of that phone. Just sold mine (unlocked) for $175 on craigslist. Got mine on launch for $184 with 2 month contract($25x2), which means I paid like 10 bucks in total to use that phone for 2 years, 60 if you include those contract payment.
that seems bout rite. sometimes ya even have prepaid iphones locked to carrier sold at walmart for round there so not suprised
I love how Iphone welcomes you when you open it
i am impressed at the first welcome animation. i feel sort of homesick for the early 2000’s.
there might be an app that opens with a dialer code, that let's you set the displayed storage size and ram. there's apps that shows your devices hidden codes and let's you dial them
No, that would mean installing that app on all the phones, dialing, and then hiding the app somehow. Much more likely they patched Android to misrepresent those values -- Android is open source, after all.
@@dIancaster Android is not open source.
Hugh, if you do factory hard reset, then clone phone usually will show its true specs.
Wow, genius presentation!
it's hard to find a honest seller a product 😊
1+8 gb would’ve even been low end in the Android 5 days. And a 480p screen? My Motorola Triumph had one of those back in 2011, and that was a mid ranger!
In fact my Nokia 701 running with Nokia Belle Feature Pack 2 (based on Symbian^3) back from 2012 is better than this.
heck my kindle from 2014 is better
My old iPad from 2016 was way better than that and my old iPhone 4s from 2014
4:15, I have to be honest, I still use android 5 on my tablet, it's very lightweight and still holds up today and supports most android apps.
Which is why they probably get the minimum hardware that supports it.
Look at all those accessories included! Apple could never. 😌
I’d wish they would include a few more accessories than I would call myself an Apple fan
@@nationalprussialism4880 Same!
Are you referring to the obsolete wired headphones it comes with (that probably don’t work), the charging plug (that probably doesn’t work), or the free and inevitable house fire caused as a result of charging it up?
Apple would get cancelled if they included such fire hazardous garbage with their products
@@nationalprussialism4880 no phone does any more so
Excellent! Well done! People have no technical idea what they are buying when it comes to mobiles and computers. How many people actually know what RAM is or does less alone storage capacity. the girls in my family have no idea what a circuit board is. I mentioned quantum computing, err complete blank☺??
That unused connector seems to be a debugging port, judging by the test points leading to it at least.
A battery with dimensions similar to the one in the rip off phone is advertised as 2500mah so the one in the phone might be around 2200mah-2500mah
I love how the box says "quad camera"
great to see it has the pro motion screen and cinematic mode 🤣
These clones really need to step up their game, you can buy a branded phone with better specs for half the price
Yeah. Concerning this I can recommend SMOOREZ. On his channel he tests these kind of devices (cheap, but legit phones or clones like the one in this video)
When you realize the iPhone 13 is also made in China
Yes but they go through strict check in each hardware department and the process is precise. These bootleg 1 are like something came out someone back garage playing around with after school equipment.😂
Foxconn uses the cheapest parts,,,it cost Apple $20 to manufacture a device and then Rob it's customers
@@edster8416 oh. That explains a lot.
"KEBE" is actually the manufacturer of this battery, and the model gives you a clue that it is in fact a 2100mAh. The board itself is just a commom cheap ass boart that's used in a lot of clone phones that Smoorez shows a lot on his videos.
Recently a family member got one of these "welcome" branded phones, and even though they know it's a fake, they wanna use it for whatsapp only. I'm aware of the security risks a phone like this may have and i'm even considering switching the ROM. What would ya'll do in my situation?
Secretly replace the phone...or flash a custom rom with an official Android skin such as EMUI, OxygenOS, OneUI etc.
buy them a genuine one. They would appreciate for that
buy them an actual phone
Its legitly a brand of "Welcome" phones, they are masters of crappy knockoffs and only ever use MediaTek CPUs, that boot animation is there logo, you bought a clone of a clone of a clone. etc etc etc...
I love how the way for them to get around legal issues is to ADD a feature so the phone isn't confused for an actual iphone.
I think that was sarcasm.
that should tell you something about apple
The extra connector is for fingerprint as the phone is actually brand call Aplus they have same motherboard fingerprint connect battery just missing one camera.
Thats soo useful jeff i was going to buy a i12 by one of those Chinese sites for about 100€ guess is loss of money despite not much u get wot u pay for.. Thanks jeff
All I can say is damn, you voided your warranty on that high end iPhone 😂
Can you please tell me what was the software you were using for checking the Android version and API level ?
It's called CPU-Z
Hugh, Hugh , Hugh…I’m a fellow Aussie and long time fan of your work. I started my comment like that as I think we both know is a stereotypical Aliexpress Scam phone😂🤣😂. Keep up the great work and don’t become old and cynical like me. Godspeed brother.
I did like Apple's choice in he beginning,of the functoin keys of R P Cntl and Apple logo, when pressed simultaneouly would incur " boot up OTHER than internal". Nobody else could assure that ones Mac could be fixed so easily as using the main memory as a slave unit!
1:30 Hey? Where is the Apple logo? 🤣
If the real iPhone was an Xbox, this thing would be an "Sbox"
No, that would be “S”ony PlayStation haha🤣
the s stands for shi- i know that the joke is from dank pods it was the bootleg airpods from wish episode from dankpods he makes good content
lol
@@iSamYTBackup SHIT BOX 😂😂😂😂
"That's like five letters away"
The perfect phone to pair with my Honda Chevy F-150
the dude know EXACTLY whats up. I lived in Shenzhen for 7 years, just down the road from Hua qian bei electronics district. ive seen it all there.
Did you try loading files on to the phone to determine its memory capacity? And do you have an usb charge monitor to see what capacity the battery is? Would be nice for future videos.
Android studio can determine its true memory capacity, and theres programs on PCs that can do the battery capacity thing, ik he did the first but not the ladder
Ah yes, I'd fear the Android has been modified extensively to misreport those values...
@@Peter_A1466 android studio can bypass the values in the modified OS to get the true values because it tests every API version on the device when you open it, if one fails, and its the version just ahead of the one its on, it knows the real android version since to my knowlege it tests for android 1, then 2, then 3, and so on, it would test for android 6 on this device in the video, it fails, and knows its android 5.
@@Lunaero accubattery can calculate the charge of the phone that comes, and it compares it to max battery capacity to determine health of it. I use it a lot, and I am on 95% after a year of use. He could use it to see how much it reported charging from 1% to 100%.
Hi Hugh, great video… I was just wondering what the program you used at 4:10 is called?
Me too
Looks like he's using the "Device File Explorer" from Android Studio.
Devil digger from alibaba
I had one of these, but it looked like an S9. I poked around and all I got was that it was an "S93" lol. The back was removable, like older Samsungs though, which was nice.
You get what you pay for. Good refiew. Gives us a sense of what to avoid.
Smoorez would of removed the shielding to see what the processor was, whether it would destroyed it or not. Would be interesting to see the secret codes and how well it would run GTA3.
Yeah smoorez
would’ve/would have. no such thing as “would of”
@@beastinfection638 Noted.
Soooo what happened to the apple self-repair video? I just finished the video and it was taken down?
btw: you can't send the video to the seller. YT is banned in China
Wow! Great video 👍
True capacity of that battery would be just about 1,500mAh lol but due to the low res screen and a horrible processor might lead to a better battery life probably.
id say 3000 , by the look at the size , my 3300 battery is even slimmer than that and cost only 5$
Always amazing how people order electronics online and get all surprised when they don't get what they ordered! Is iphones a banned or whatever item in any country that you need to order it?
I order everything online…there’s no risk at all as long as you use common sense. I’ve made over 300 purchases on eBay and I’ve only been scammed once; I got my money back in just a few days.
0:48 I died from this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow, I like the video and the whole information.
One thing to consider when buying phone online is that, if it's too cheap to be true then it is probably a scam. No sane seller that would sell their stuff below MSRP, it is always close or higher....
Aliexpress never claims that this is a genuine apple product. And that's why aliexpress is much reputable website than wish and those other scammy websites
My god the bottom bezel on that is massive. My guess is it's an LCD
You don't have to guess, no way these knock off companies would spent huge amount of money to use OLED on their phone. Even their LCD is one of the worst and cheapest LCD
It's a Budget LCD Bro.
This phone prolly costed 50 dollars to make NGL
@@adith9327 I doubt it cost even that much lol
When such a phone comes to my repair shop . The first thing I do is to extract the firmware and keep a copy of it on my pc hard desk . Such a firmware can repair a lot of other bricked phones . It's a meditek indeed.
i would think a benchmark result would help indicate what processor it may be using
I would definitely send them this video and see what they say then. I think that would make some interesting content. Sorry you got scammed
and here is a question that tortures me for a long time: was there actually at least one clone device with somewhat decent hardware, like at least 3gb ram and 64bit cpu? I also met ADs with kinda qualcomm iphone clones, but i'm quite confident that these are also that 1+8 mtk bricks.
I nevee seen one... they are using old parts from recycling, probably...
There used to be a GooPhone a while back that had decent specs
@@Aeonia92 any chance to find and check out?
Phones don't use 64 bits or 32 bits.
@@nodonworld you are wrong, see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family where it clearly states about arm and aarch64 processors, and 32/64bit operating systems, where you can find android
its has a dedicated ''back button''.. thats good enough for me😌
"apple-samsung-13-pro-max-ultra" that one got me😂
Sameee
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reminds me of the Samsung S4 motherboard when I had alot of them I'm for blowing the RF antenna many moons ago! But this looks so much like it! Would explain the android version too! Lol probably cloned from all them years ago! The hole for the central camer in the motherboard
Regarding the battery: I have been able to find this model, which is connected to the KEBE 325875/425875 series, which actually is a 1000mah battery
They actually put in a headphone jack. That's courage.
It's an obvious scam phone but I'll give them 1 star for combining parts from multiple old smartphones into one functional unit lol