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KAIROS SKIN
Progression is more slow for me because star drop give me more cosmetic but I'm not complaining I have many skin now😊
Idk
More gold and power points
I want more GOLD
Me toooooo
Facts
Bruh I need powerpoints💀💀💀
I have 10k cold and almost no power points on my second account and on my main i got a lot of power points but no coins...
Just gimme both I need both
New progression: Getting an emoji from a mythic or legendary starr drop
😂 this is too true, or getting a really cheap garbage skin when you own a much better one
80% chance
istg they buff the chance to get pins and profile pictures. i have like 4 janet skins now and i dont even want to use them😂😂
of a legendary brawler thats in the end of starr road
imo its good that finally us f2ps are getting cosmetics
The fact that they refused to put units inside their graphs is extremely worrying to me. It’s very easy to lie with data, especially if you don’t tell your viewers what data you’re giving them.
Yeah, like they saying that only Larry and Lawrie was a mistake, with basically almost every single Brawler released in the last months being absolute busted. Anyonen can just make graphics, but proove that numbers is the problem. And being honest, I'm kinda getting tired of Kairos aways trying to make bad decisions have something good behind, I know he depends on the game's popularity, but come on, a lot of people ARE NOT getting more coins, NOT getting more progression. Like, just LOOK at the player base, every single day. But nope. And the part that is impossible to know if a Brawler is going to be busted, like what? Can't you just… read the brawler's abilities? A thrower that deals 3200+ damage that fast, a shield With 100% protection, gaining ammo from every single source in the game? Sure it was impossible to know if it was going to be Absolutely busted right
Exactly, I'm scared that they're not showing us the actual data
@@astro6392don’t you mean a lot of people are not spending there gold responsibly. I have 98,000 gold ever since the gear refund. I only spend my gold on one upgrade per week, and the goal I get in return is always more than what I spend in that week. Also it is hard to see how broken a brawler is because you don’t fully know the player skill when they get their hands on a brawler. Not everyone plays the same. So try hards make the brawler even more broken. There are too many factors that determine how broken a brawler is. Plus sometimes there maybe an interaction that was not intended .
@@astro6392Ngl, the "balancing brawlers is hard" point Kairos made was complete bs this time. Sure, I could usually give them the benefit of the doubt but in this case, people were already saying that L&L would be one of the strongest brawlers in brawl stars HISTORY *before they even came out* which already shows that people already expected the carnage that would ensue. And now he really wants to tell me that NONE of the playtesters noticed ANYTHING wrong with him? Sure...
Plus graphs overall are just dumb
Mega pig comes once a month and the rewards are underwhelming which is why more people play mega pig as they feel forced to have to play for progression
and its a group event. u can throw all your 15 attempts and still get the rewards
I just can’t find active clubs ever Only 6-7 contributors (only 2-3 of them actually win, not including myself) in a full club Not to mention even a max mega pig is terrible
@@damlatorun6756 exactly. so why bother joining an active club !?
I'm extremely lucky to have such an active cluh
Most of the resources from Club League were spread to other sources hence the underwhelming rewards. No, i do not like these changes myself but at least we know why they suck.
The coins per day graph feels wrongly presented as it doesnt show how many coins people were getting per day BEFORE boxes were removed, so there's no visual comparison for people to really see that coins per day has increased when looking at boxes vs star drops
and they literally gave us so many coin shower events nowadays to boost the numbers while claiming rngs are the best for the players.
@@theclosecall4095 isnt it the same thing with boxes, except that rng was even worse, like 0.05% for a superrare
Boxes were very different in the whole context of that moment in time. Just like Frank said, ⭐ contextualize ⭐@@azelde
@@azelde i dont even like boxes in the first place too. star drop is a reskin boxes lmao. all i want is a non rng progression while only rng based rewards are on a planned event that supposedly give you star drops like the latest spray event
@@azelde No, with boxes you had 10% chance to unlock rares, 5% to unlock super rares, 2.5% to unlock Epics, 1.25% to get a mythic and the chance for legendaries was lower but varied depending on how many boxes you've opened that didn't have a brawler in them. Around the release of Amber they added a cap to the chance of dropping a legendary cause some players unlocked brawlers way too easily.
It must be really hard to know if a brawler is broken when you give them six attacks, the longest range, and an extra teammate.
And an invincibility star power And a 50% heal gadget And high damage And a quick charging super And And And And And And And And
And a gadget that turns him into an upgraded darryl
And a paywall
@@damlatorun6756 that gadget sucked
The gadget was always healing 33% health and still does (the thing that changed was L&L's max health so it oes technically heal less but it's still 33% heal of their current max HP)
For me the problem isnt progression, its that every new release makes the game absolute misery and behind a paywall too. Larry kit and charlie made the game so unbalanced in ladder and power league, broken brawlers didnt feel so broken before but recent releases have been extra toxic. Not forgetting braindead Fang hypercharge, which makes the game worse
honestly I lost interest in playing, after daily playing for 4 years. Broken brawlers everywhere with no survival place for niche brawlers these days, you don't even have a choice to play other brawlers if you want have some wins
Chuck was also very OP on release
@@serbianempireball8951mico and hank both came out bugged
Only In heist@@serbianempireball8951
The huge deal here is just the hypercharge ( KT said the devs want new release to be a bit good, larry is a mistake) Fang in particular is not that good, he's only good with hypercharge so some changes needs to be done like unfinished hyper (only stats buff) or nerf the op hyper stats and buff the bad hyper stats like fang and pearl
“Progression has been buffed” yeah but you need 3x as many coins as you needed before💀
No, that's false. Also, Kairos has also calculated on time to max basis.
AND CLUB LEAGUE WAS REMOVED
It was buffed, but made more rng based, thats why it feels so much worse then before, because you never know when you're going to get those 200 coins you need for that hypercharge
@@holyromanemperor420 what do you mean you literally need almost 400000 more coins to max your account, while the f2p economy has stayed almost practically the same💀💀💀
@@Someone_adachi the rng changes made it a lot easier to max out. So the F2P economy has changed.
As I said last time, the issue is that the non-level upgrades (gadgets, gewars, star powers, and hyper charges) are crazy expensive. If you want to get a brawler 1 gadget, 1 star power, and 2 gears, that’s 5000 coins…that’s too much. No to mention if they have a hyper charge, where that price Sky rockets to 10,000. Or if you want to fully max out the brawler, that’s another 7000 at the least, and that’s if the brawler doesn’t have an epic or mythic gear….thats insane
21k coins to fully max a brawler
@@degenmarketing2437and there are like 76 brawlers 💔
8:13 this is bullsh*t. When kit was busted, they closed the servers to fix some bugs, not to nerf kit. This was BEFORE the Kitt nerf. + 8:30
Yea, it’s a cash grab so they can make a ton of money off of a free rank 35, but they’re sugar coating it and saying they’re avoiding making more bugs
yea but they care so much about us that they don’t wanna close the game for a massive *2* HOURS to make us happy and improve retention but instead wait weeks to fix the game
What's even more bullshit when you think of the fact that almost a month before early access in the test build it was blatantly obvious they were insanely overpowered
6:09 Perosnnaly I don’t mind star drops. My issue with them is that they were initially meant to be as a small bonus to progression, however now they are like half the source of progression. The point of the progression change was to make progression more reliable and less RNG, but they are relying on star drops more often (they are the reward for every other tier on the free pass, they are often rewards in challenges rather than pure coins or power points or credits, they’ve been placed into the trophy road) where they are being used isn’t bad, but it’s the reliance on they that I don’t like
its bullshit when you have to grind for 900xp pass only for you to only get 25 coins. u could have just redistribute the 1k guaranteed coins reward and put something else with it that gives a similar value of a star drop in term of pure non rng rewards
yeah exactly
This is too true, the fact you can either get 25 coins or 1000 coins or even a 5000 coin value hyper charge, but you’re likely to earn the 25 or 50 coins star drops
Progression def isn’t buffed. Before star drops, I got 60+ brawlers power 7 & 9 some with gadgets & star powers with daily play. Now with this most recent season, with the brawl pass & daily play, an entire month of progress was fang hypercharge & maxed Colette. It’s bullshit.
They promised to make progression less RNG and removed its source, boxes. Then they saw the remival only hurt the game so they readded boxes again in the form of Starr Drops. We went back to square one. And don't tell me "well at least you don't spend hundreds of dollars to buy boxes anymore." No, people are still buying "boxes" by buying the brawl pass. But sure, it's less of an issue now ig...
KairosTim never fails to upload a video about the podcast thats over 2 hours long in 1 hour.
He probably got it before the normal players
He probably got early access
KairosTim ; our fav youtuber
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NO NOT KAIROSTIM KAIROSTIME IS BETTER!
in the case of larry and lawerie, they were clearly made broken to monetize. theres no way in hell anyone is dumb enough to release that monster
Fr
NO BODY will uninstall brawl stars because they cant play for 30 min
@@yasmanihervas9672*1 week
(I absolutely love when someone forgets to ask their brain if it's a good idea to post this or not) the time period that skilled players have the time to test a brawler is SHORT so, they have to make up their mind because you can't just know how good a brawler is by playing him a little bit, and by the time they tell the dev team how good the brawler is, they're probably working on something else. And guess what, as far as I know, the devs are HUMANS, so they have to sleep, eat, and take time to do others things than make stupidly complex updates for a community that won't even thank them because they're still yapping about the other broken brawler that was fixed 1 whole fucking months ago. Thank you for your time.
@lejoueurfreetoplay What are you talking about? Releasing Larry and Lawrie in the state they were in was flat out malicious on Supercell's end. Remember when Grom was released OP and people were calling him a ranged Shelly? And when Lola was released OP and her clone would always do 100% damage, effectively doubling her damage output AND acting as a shield? And remember when Rosa's super made her take pretty much no damage for 6 seconds? Larry dished out huge, ranged damage, was decently tanky, and could literally SUMMON A WHOLE ASS OTHER BRAWLER THAT COULD ABSORB 100% OF DAMAGE AND ATTACK ON HIS OWN, MEANING YOU COULD LITERALLY TEAM IN SOLO SHOWDOWN WITH ONE BRAWLER. Charlie and Kit were released in a an OP state as well, but at least they kind of felt like they had some counters. What the hell do you do about ranged, 2v1, immune to damage Shelly? You can't say they didn't know he was OP, especially if they had help from pros. And then they charged 20$ for this shit. They purposely released a stupid over powered brawler and charged 20 bucks for it. I doubt all of the game devs were purposely being malicious. Most, if not all of them were probably just listening to the higher-ups and doing their job, but you can't say Supercell is innocent here. Thank you to anyone who read all of this, I've been wanting to get this off my chest for a while. Have a great day
I had used all 15 of my megapig tickets, and got 14 wins, a vice president kicked me from the club so I’d be off the leaderboard and they could get more rewards for themself. Supercell really needs to do something about compensating players who were kicked during megapig. I can’t even join another club and play megapig there, because all my tickets are used. Completely screwed over.
Thats really messed up bro😭
AYOOO????
AYO HOW also this guy kicked from club right after mega pig
That's messed up, so sorry that happened to you!❤
Never join a random club Join a club you trust
13:30 honestly that's what I wanted to hear and that's the best news ever
so true
Ikr
Ong 💀💀
Fr 💀
COC used to have maintenance every day during its peak in 2015. Yes it was annoying but I don't think anyone quitted game because of those maintenance
CoC isn't like brawl stars, it's a building game,so unlike brawl stars, you just need to put clash of clans for like five minutes before turning it off and waiting for your building to be completed
Yes, this is a so unreseanable explanaion to why not nerf L&L before, dude?
@@yasmanihervas9672 dude,work on your spelling before you try to make an argument
@@enobongudoh5286 oh, the grammar boomer arrived, everyone please pay attention to him, is very important and very interesting
@@yasmanihervas9672 haha your very funny
Actually, the double and triple L&L could be felt at a wide range of trophy levels, not only on the high spectrum
Showdown 💀
exactly, you could find 2 or 3 larry teams at any trophy level
I feel like the increase in player retention and higher active players is due to the events like the brawl together and the possibility of winning stuff like 1 million gems and a free brawl pass plus not the star drops specifically in my opinion
I feel like it's because of winstreaks
those things are impossible to win i don’t believe people are actively trying to get those. ure wrong
Star drops have 100% helped the game. Many people at my school have started playing because of these events and often times when there’s a legendary star drop in the shop or a mega pig they’ll open it together during lunch to see what they get. It definitely keeps retention for the game
@@aafragz3746nahhh my highschool does the same thing😂😂😂it's so cringe
how is it cringe @@happymck4641
9:05 How can you possibly defend that? He has an early release, and everyone who had him had a free win. You dont have him? Well, too bad. Now youre just a free match for larry and lawry. And that cones after the fact, yeah, everyone got larry and lawry, but paying players got to stomp on the vast majority of the player base just because the team wanted to early release a broken brawler. Theres no excuse for them not being able to see it, it was blatantly obvious the kind of power Larry and lawry held. While it can be better to release slightly stronger new brawlers, if you go overboard the player base is eventually going to get tired of the same practive over and over. And this hurts new players even more thsn veterans.
Fax idk how he supports it
Star powers definitely, I don’t know how that got past testing, without them they’re not that broken so idk
And the same thing happened with kit like a month earlier
The thing is, technically progression isnt buffed. Back in the day, the progress you made could max you out in about a year or so? But because theres new levels, HCs, gears etc, even though the rewards are higher, progression is lower cause in that same 1 year, you cant get anywhere close to max.
Yes, back in the day where they didn't have gears (epic and mythic), lvl 11 and hypercharges. I will say you're kinda right but also wrong, cuz brawl boxes (giant and mega) had a decent chance to give you a star power, now we can only obtain those for free trough legendary starr drops and it's too rng to rely on those. Also we were NEVER able to max out in a year or so that's so cap lmao.
Exactly, we do technically get more coins, but the cost to max out an account is +42765 coins per update (assuming there is only one new brawler, you only pick 1 star power, 1 gadget and 2 gears for them. With also all 6 new hypercharges that comes with the update) That's a hecking ton and I don't think that those buffs are enough to keep up
Kairos literally did the math its a factual buff
@@noahz9639 Oh yeah, agreed fully. Though the max in a year thing was more of a hyperbole. I can't recall how fast is was to max but I do know staying maxed was easy. But now, I'm so far from max. F2p btw.
@@silis4645 For every individual thing yeah I guess, but the account itself not really. I'd pretty much always get the new stuff before the next updates, but now I'm just barely halfway through unlocking kit and kits been out for so long already. I think even though the drop rates were low back then, we still got so many boxes that eventually we would just get everything pretty fast. A brawl box gave multiple things as well and the occasional bonus. I'm speaking from my own experience as f2p since launch. Max then and max now isn't the same. Back then we would have both star powers and gadgets for everyone in a short manner of time relatively. Now I can't even hope to have both star powers and gadgets on everyone, it's just unrealistic as f2p.
6:06 they are playing longer beacause of the free win starr drops. Before it, no one cared to play everyday.
I thought so as well. I would used to just go for as many quests as possible while claim the daily 200 credits. now, not getting 8 wins feel like a prison.
But that's a good thing. That means increased player retention which is good for the game
@@DesislavJeliazkov but thats just a band aid on a garbage rng based progression. u dont have to shove the player with so many guaranteeed rewards on a supposedly "balanced-by-rng" progression, that defeats the whole purpose of the RNG. rng is only needed for event rewards or something temporary that had been planned to be rng and not a core feature of a game
VERY well said
And because brawl pass now updates monthly
All I have to say is that the play testers and the balance team are not doing their job. People that call for people to get fired is a little much but lets not pretend they didnt do a really bad job with the last few brawlers.
Fr. Imo Kit was way worse than L&L.
i mean they get paid for not evening doing there job :D i would love to join this balancing team to do nothing and enjoy player suffer :D
Which employee tho
Balance "team"? I'm pretty sure it's just some guy called Adrian.
Adrian is part of the balance team. He's known cause he appeared in the podcasts a few times to speak for the balance changes team.
4 out of 6 of the graphs are missing units, they’re basically useless to accurately represent data
no way bud said L L were balanced bcs both teams would have one. The problem was that it was so annoying to deal with it making ppl just closing the game and never opening it until they got nerfed
Ecaxtou
i just feel like they should decrease the chances of getting pins and skins, which increases the chance of getting gold, gadgets, starpowers,... As a F2P, i feel robbed after getting a useless pin out of a legendary drop.
Skins are okay, pins, true. Epics are giving way too many pins.
You can't get a pin out of a legendary, have you been living under a rock or som?
@@Uvulo He's talking about epic star drops
@@Lukinhas752 learn to read dawg
@@Lukinhas752he literally said legendary 💀
I think the "we don't want to do maintenance to fix broken brawlers because of retention" is a silly excuse. Broken brawlers make Supercell extra money, and that's obviously their intention with the early access system.
Ok but how did the playtesters not notice kit in showdown with 6 cubes literally charged infinite supers, how did they not notice that Charlie's attack from up close was way too fast, how did they not notice how her super didnt even let the opponents play the game for 10 seconds, how did they not notice that larry's star power was horribly broken, how did they not notice that reloading ammo from the heist safe would be broken They are doing this on purpose, it should be obvious by now
They are doing it on purpose - to a certain extent - tbh idk why Kairos didnt mention it because hes talked about in a past video. But anyways Brawl Stars themselves have said they prefer making brawlers too strong and then nerfing them later on rather than have them release a weak brawler that then gets nerfed. They used Willow as an example where she was so mid on release that even after she got buffed and actually became crazy good, nobody now is still running her.
I mean, showdown sucks so… Also it’s clear they’re trying to make new brawlers good (like A-tier) but balancing is much harder than you’d think. Charlie’s squishy and doesn’t like being close up. Also, a majority of these problems come from Heist being so unbalanced so…
You forgot to consider that we use A LOT more gold in every thing, there is 2000 in star power, 1000 in gadget and 1000 2x to gears plus 1 additional level, and im not even considering the hypercharge, they should have almost doubled the gold due the amount of gold we need to expend, I thing power points are ok, but gold were nerfed to the ground
I feel like the only thing I miss from brawl boxes is the 7 in the corner. I feel like maybe star drops can give you 2 items including the brawler, should you get that. This way we can have the same experience of anticipating who the brawler could be. Idk, but I feel like that would be awesome.
Supercell needs to fix the brawler selection. Scrolling up and down 2 lines to find 1/80 brawlers is becoming incredibly annoying
i thinking expanding it will be too much for some peoples eyes
Sure yeah you get more progression but it still takes 2x more time to max an account compared to when the boxes were a thing.
Becauses there is just soooo many brawlers....
@@TimeoCrescenceand hyperchagres..
Why did they remove the boxes?
Yea I understand about the feeling progression being nerfed because randomness doesn't feel earned you know
I get it, Power league is not popular for most of the players, but what if casual players matched against/with competitve players? Power league already has random maps and modes, adding modifiers doesn't make it less random Drafting (aka Ban/Pick) is already so simple in Brawl stars as a MOBA game compared to the others, it's easy to learn Btw the report system is still useless and I'm tired of the excuse "gathering more data", it's already over an year and ppl still AFK/griefing Funny that ppl are less likely to AFK in Power league but it's the opposite for trophy grinding, so why not implement report system for it as well? TL;DR: Imo adding modifiers doesn't make PL less random, Report system needs to be implemented for trophy matches ASAP
Hopefully 5 year olds don't report their teammates just because they lost a match.
They're reworking PL now so if they ever make the report button do something, it will likely be with this update
@@DesislavJeliazkov I hope they do, and I don't think it really need a big rework except the rewards
The thing is: Power league is COMPETITIVE. If someone goes AFK, it hurts much more than losing trophies. Trophies are just NOT a good way to tell if someone is overall a good player, but power league rank is a very good way, and if someone's rank is dropped because of someone griefing, the griefer (idk if thats or word or if i spelled it wrong), they should get banned. It's better to test it in power league because there are less trolls, mostly serious people, and it's less replays to look at. Also there is a report system outside of power league, it's a chat report.
@@drippymario2830 I know that PL is competitive, because it has many competitive player, and they are less likely to afk and fight till the end. If there is a player who throws the game, I do agree that losing your progression in PL is more painful than trophies and I know PL rank represents your skill level better than trophies cuz PL involves drafting which affects your results of winning (unlike trophies which can be obtained through teaming and wintrade lol) Tbh the reason I think the current report system is useless is because it doesn't warn or intimidate the trolls, PL is less likely to have trolls unlike trophy road. It is quite common to see ppl throwing /afk in trophy road for no reason (even in high/low trophy range) which negatively affects the experience, and most of the players (casual players) play trophy mode more than PL, that's why I said report system should also be implemented in trophy road too
The biggest issue right now is: cosmetic/progression problem. I need gold I need hypercharges, I want resources. But the starr drop will give me a basic pin for a brawler. Why not return pin packs for that. Cometic items take away most of progression.
The pain of getting panda nita from a legendary drop
The pain of getting Pyro spike in a legendary starr drop
I get a spike pin from a legendary stardrop But i dont have spike so i dont use it
The coin per player should have increased even more because it takes thousands of coins for players to max out a character. Also there is a very big unbalanced in currency, since long term players have tens of thousands of power points while they still lack in gold since they need gold for literally everything in the game.
Something they could do for play testing is letting the players play the characters only on the community maps a few days before they officially release or like 1 week randomly after announcing them, that way they could get more feedback by different types of players of a brawler
2:38 I mean, yeah the average of coins per player has increased, but also more levels have been added to every single brawler and second gadgets and second star powers PLUS hypercharge. Every single one of those increasing a brawlers cost of upgrade in coins about the doble or triple in some cases if you want it maxed out. And once the retroactive coins obtained from masteries run out, you still don't get an equivalent for all the progress that was introduced in the game. I admit this is more a feeling thing from the player perspective, but also it is noticeable given all the changes the progression has gone through that we are on the negative and with each update we lose more on the progress side of things. For that instance, the developers intent for a player to "finish" the game in 7-6 years may not be attainable anymore. Some things we call progression like pp aren't actually meant for old players, and really halve the progression if they are being accounted as overall progression.
The most annoying thing about larry and lawrie being so broken is that they broke the game during the mastery madness, coin shower and double star drops. So it was very hard to actually do mastery madness for anyone who wasnt playing larry and lawrie so they missed out on so much progression even though they had the time to do it. Thats prolly why everyone was so mad
THIS!
The fact that we get more coins doesn't matter when every update like 5 brawled get a hyper charge that cost 5 k coins each.And almost every team has atleast 1 hypercharged brawler.And the fact that almost everything costs coins
Correct
If you want everything immediatly then pay for it, its a free play to game
@@edorass140lol reddit kid
i smell someones broke 🤓
@@FOXY_PLAYZ89i have better use for my money than a kid game 🤓
One of the issues on progression is that people are always missing coins while sitting on thousands of power points. Just add a shop to do currency exchange so you can actually exchange what you dont need for what you need, even if you lose some
dependent variable units are missing from the charts. improper, truncated, or no scaling might be used. not saying supercell definitely lied but the graphs might be distorted
also just wanna add I didn't watch the original podcast so if there were units then im wrong lol
Thanks so much for going over all things they told about in a shorter version ❤
hi
Imo, the reason why Mega Pig is doing better than Club League is because it's just ✨fancier✨ Breaking a GIANT glass piggy bank is just WAAY cooler visually than getting some red coins Also am I the only one who forgot Power League existed? Ever since they stopped with the fancy images and it's just a colour changing skull, I kinda forgot about it TL;DR : for me at least, fancy visuals make something WAY more playable
Idk I liked using all my club coins on coins and see the numbers go brrrrrrrr was really satisfying for me but I understand why you think it better.
You are definitely a rare breed, club league was miles better
Power league is very good when Larry got released you can just ban him
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they need to add more rewards
Been playing this game on and off since early beta days, my complaint as of recent is that the balance of the game has been pretty abysmal for an exhausting amount of time. Mostly pointing fingers at the hypercharge update and the imbalance most hypercharges give in general. I’ve been pretty disappointed with the state of the game for awhile speaking in terms of what brawlers you see in higher ladder and the higher ranks in power league (eg seeing fang, maisie, and Charlie (and L&L as of recent) being picked or banned almost every singe game.) and having more paywalled absolutely broken brawler releases feels extremely EXTREMELY greedy and unhealthy. I understand the concept of early access and what it accomplishes but it’s obviously frustrating for the playerbase when you have a 20 dollar brawler locked behind a paywall and a 7 day wait time absolutely demolish you in games constantly. I’d love for some delicate balance changes to take place very soon that touches base on SEVERAL brawlers. WE HAVE 75+ CHARACTERS NOW, seeing 2 to 8 brawlers per balance patch get small tweaks is INSANE. Give the most recent balance change some light, we only got two brawlers nerfed and none of the changes addressed the direct issues with the brawlers they were changing. L&L still do absolutely insane damage and have a MASSIVE range for a lobber/thrower and Maisie is still doing just as fine. Hell this most recent mega pig I had to fight a L&L EVERY SINGLE GAME. It’s not fair at all to say the Dev team appears out of touch but it very much feels so. I’m very happy the devs push things that have a positive impact but I feel they don’t shine any light on the issues that have started to pop up recently at all. It’s like they’re waiting for things to smooth out when everyone knows that’s never going to happen.
club shop is better for progression because u can actually choose what resources you get thru the shop. star drops in an ideal world where all calculations are true, is better but it's too randomized. like getting 3 drops worth of doublers instead of gold you need at the moment. which in club shop, we can just get coins directly and put all club event rewards toward the gold we needed. instead of it being spread around multiple types of currencies. example: I need to level a brawler to 11 from 10 and need coins. Club shop: just buy the coins star drops: i got everything else except for the coins i needed for that upgrade. credits, powerpoints, bling, doublers and just some bits of coins not even half of what I needed.
This is the first kairos video I’ve watched in awhile. Im happy to see these kind of videos are being released still 😄👏🏽
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The thing with Starr drops is that they increased the player retention and made them play daily becuz if they didn't then they would lose those rewards. And since before that you could just stack up those rewards (15 credits 15 gold n 20pp smth like that)so you not playing daily didn't have a big impact. Additionally they re allocated the rewards from BP to Starr drops and with the BP was you could just store your progression but with Starr drops you miss a day you can't get those rewards which forces players to play daily if when u don't wanna cuz if u don't get that 8 wins daily then ur losing rewards. But before you could just miss a day like missing 400 tokens and just grind your quests cuz the rewards were not as spread out. And now it's outrageous how you spend 1600 battle tokens for one Starr drops when in the tiers for 950 there is way more and before it was just 500 and consistent and storable unlike the auto collect they have rn I am not hating on Starr drops but just amazed by how the devs found a way to keep the players play daily to maintain a high daily active users. 😮😅
You are right
Two issues with the first chart 2:43 1. There are no axis values - meaning that this difference in coins gained per day may be just 10 coins from Jan 2023 to March 2023. 2. Only one month of data regarding brawl boxes - meaning that we can't see the trend and January may not reflect the bigger picture
Lets be real the converted DAU is so high rn is because of pinku pawlette... change my mind
Not going to change your mind, it's true
Brawl stars community trying not to simp for colette for 0.000000001 seconds:
I'm one of them (⌐■-■) hoping to see my queens janet and charlie get same treatment in future (⌐■-■)
True the higher spike was due to the change in brawl pass with the skins and more modes But the progression did not improve
I have to say I'd felt that we are getting less progression, but looking at it objectively, I'm missing just 2 hypercharges, I maxed out all brawlers except 13 of them (have them at power 9 or 10) and I'm missing just a few needed gears on some brawlers.
Larry was so so so broken (and still is) he is my first 30 rank brawler i have absolutely no idea how did it not get nerfed the day it got released
He explained it. But basically, they had to fix other bugs too and since maintenance breaks highly affect the game's health, they chose one maintenance break over multiple small ones. Besides, since Larry and Lowry were so common, it was not actually a big problem and competitively, they always got banned and that was it.
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The duality of brawl stars players
@@holyromanemperor420 they should have seen this coming like imagine a thrower that deals massive damage with 15k hp (infinite if you cycle supers fast) being OP ain't gonna accept any excuses supercell fk'd up big this time
Nice graph the first 1 about gold. But it only on the period with stardrops, so we cant compare it to the brawlbox period. So nice info but it has no use at all.
I've got a question: why doesn't the graph always show the exact scale used to compare progression and player attention over time? The only time where we see the scale is for the Pie chart and the club league/mega pig. And for the CL/MP, the scale is a bit misleading (it shows 0% from to 50%, but at a quick glance you might think it's 0% to 100%) There is a convenient scheme that is often used with graphs that doesn't show you the values you are presented so that you think the gaps are bigger For exemple: if I went from $700 gains to $1000 gains, it would look small if the scale was $0 to $2000, but absolutely huge if it was $650 to $1000. I'm not saying that the BS team *is* doing this. I'm just saying that there is a chance and the fact that we don't see the scale at all for the most important numbers is concerning.
cause it's easier to fool people into looking at data like they want them to 🤫
Can you suggest an in game button(like the in game pins) that you can open to use commands? Like : attack! Defend! Help! Or a taunt with a brawler voice. Your message will appear to your teammates, even if your dead, respawning. It can have a cool down like the pins do!
i think the best buff to progression would be adding power point cap back and changing the end of pass rewards back
I just don’t understand how they thought Kit in his thrower form was gonna be fair with all that damage
F2P players need a buff to progression
As somebody who didn’t start playing the game until star drops were added, I think that there should be higher chances to get brawlers and PowerPoints and coins, because I feel like I frequently just get random things that I’ll never use. Idk if it was worse when the boxes were in the game but that’s just my opinion
Welcome to the brawl community, my friend
Honestly its very amazing that they show the stats of everything of how the game is over the years. (mainly power points / hypercharge)
Timestamps for the video: 0:31 - Starr Drops, Progression 2:54 - Brawl Stars Popularity, Active Users 6:20 - Balance, (mainly Larry and Lawrie) 9:29 - Brawler Strength on Release 12:29 - Social Lobbies (like in Chinese Servers) 13:29 - Power Point Animation will be skippable (finally) 13:38 - How people spend their gems/money 15:10 - Chart showing how much people convert from F2P to spending money on the game 16:22 - More Pin Slots 16:32 - Repricing Token Doublers (XP) 16:50 - Club League vs Mega Pig 18:13 - Improving Fame 18:44 - Power League Rework
thx buddy
19:51 Misses collet hyper super
And agin
Before than
WOW! Can't remember the last time I've seen Brawl News on Kairos' channel, I've missed it!
14:24 lmao, my first thougt was that, horizontal means you bought something in brawl stars since you play brawl stars with your phone horizontal, and vertical means something was bought in the supercell shop since you use that vertically
8:42 nah man that according to me does not fit well, tbh if they nerfed that larry brawler before, people would have played more, because most people werent playing the game, including me, because it was unplayable. Sorry man but that decision did not seem rational to me
You just suck, get gud kid
I want the old clubs back,as a small club we dont get shit anymore. I got maybe 1/5th of what i did before in the old club leages
I used to have a club with two other people, I had to abandon it because I couldn't get any good rewards and both clubmates left
Same
as an og player i'm so happy to see the game at its peak rn, hopefully they can retain new players and makes some changes to the way they're releasing new brawlers the game feels more lively rn
Brawl star china has this and it looks pretty cool I hope we see it in here. Maybe we can also do duels inside of it as well. Show off teams/ etc since we barely can show off fame.
First half of the video was basically supercell doubling down on the criticism
With facts
@@holyromanemperor420their facts didn't explain much about why their actions should be appreciated by an active F2P or paying player. They just said, most players aren't really active and thus giving them more rewards for being active isn't as important to us, so swallow the pill but be happy because atleast we are honest about it. Ya dude, that's not how support is built from an objective standpoint.
@@holyromanemperor420 what facts lmao, just many upwards spiky lines within a grid? they didnt even explained to us whats the x and y axis supposed to be. data will not be able to tell the public opinion and most of us just have to swallow randomized progression becuz it had beeen implemented into the very basic way to progress. its literally rng or quit the game
When it comes to Kairos Videos it just makes your Day.
Throughout brawl stars and youtube, kairos is the joyus one
@@sh21dow you Got that right.
Hey Kairos, I don't know if people are complaining specifically about the progression, but more so the bottlenecks between different resource types. We used to have more control over which resources went where, be it through timing box openings, or saving the bonus rewards to give double coins when you hit the PowerPoint cap. There's not really any sort of stand in for that, so a lot of people have way less control over what they unlock
for sneak peaks and the stats
I really hope they give players the option to convert their power points into gold. Its such an easy solution to the coin problem for more progressed players!
New players need power points
@@GuriXGaming And ur point being?
@@GuriXGamingand players with half their brawlers high level with no equipment need gold. Your point?
Need both for new players need pp for late players u need coins rip English 🤡
Not to be nitpicky but were there no mention of the abundances of powerpoints in ratio to coins
What he said at 9:44 about how Brawlers should be strong on release, I honestly think Mico is the perfect example. A very strong brawler, but not completely broken.
18:15 in the patch notes for the Brawlidays update, it said that at fame level one, you would get a pin, level two a profile picture, and level three a new cosmetic: a border for your battle card. I hope it's added next update because it's long overdue.
I have to say that progress in this game was definitely buffed. I was buying the og brawl passes from time to time, because of the brawlers and the rewards, but the thing why i didnt buy them often were because i was getting bored with the game, because it was taking so long to progress in the brawl pass tiers. I liked the excitement from progressing the tiers and getting the rewards, but it took so long that i often got bored of the game, so i had that “leave and then come back again” relationship. Since they changed the brawlpass, i cant stop playing this game😂. Its so enjoyable for me, i buy the best version of the battle pass, and im able to max out like 2-5 brawlers, depends what lvl the brawler is, what star powers he has or doesnt have etc. And also im max tier really early on, but thx to being able to max out my brawlers, i wanna play them more, and push trophies more etc. But i think that after you get tier 50, they either should change the amount of xp you need for the starr drops, or give like a 20-30% buff on gaining mastery points once u get to tier 50, to keep players playing even after they complete the battle pass. Edit: i also forgot to mention that the f2p side is definitely buffed even if some players dont think that, i have 2nd account where i dont want to spend money, and the gold and power point rewards in pass let me upgrade my brawlers a lot faster without having the premium battle pass in this version of battle pass, than when it was the old version when i sometimes bought it with gems that i saved up.
what... if anything bp rework makes you progress slower and supposedly give you more rewards...
@@happymck4641 nope, u get like 2x the rewards u got before, cuz before it was 2months 1 season, now u fit 2 seasons in those 2 months, and u get a lot more gold and power points than before… or at least it feels like u get double the rewards u did before, but still its more than before, and u can slo get them earlier than in the old brawl pass, because now u get challanges every day. I finished battlepass in like 7 days with the premium pass challanges, so i was able to upgrade my brawlers a lot sooner than after a month of playin the old brawl pass
Yeah but it costs sm more gold to level stuff up. Like 5k hypercharges, 1k for gadgets and gears, 2k for star powers. Plus them releasing like so many new hypercharges on each update. Like it's not like you can't get them from star drops but its way too much gold to even max out one brawler (I think it's 21k or something). And there is no way you are getting that much gold to max out brawlers unless you are really playing the game and doing all the things you possibly can. I'm pretty sure it's actually a nerf for us f2p when it comes to mega pig and the brawl pass being paid.
@@sushants.3023 even if its not paid u still get a solid amount of gold, in old pass u were getting mainly boxes and not that much gold if i remember correctly, and this change is better, because with the gold you get, you can decide which starpower, gadget, or hypercharge u want to buy, instead of most of the time waiting for getting it from boxes, or waiting some time until you get to certain tier, so you can buy it with gold. This change gives you more control over what you want to unlock. At least thats how i see it. But i respect ur opinion
i dont need powerpoints....@@Dashii-
Supercell definitely paid this man to say this.
he is exteremely biased thats for sure. just like how oj meat rode CR for so long that he prob get sick of the constant negative comments, he dialed it down quite a lot. he always knows how to balance his bias and fact to make himself seemed "neutral", which is so annoying
@@theclosecall4095 What’s annoying is the people spamming “we don’t need level 15” as if they’d listen. And if people are sending death threats and shit, or at the very least obnoxious hostile messages, muting them isn’t biased and non-neutral! Have you seen his video mocking Supercell for level 15?! Best anti-CR video I’ve seen! He just doesn’t want the toxicity to spread to his entire channel because the community was an absolute toxic mess. The fact that you’re complaining about this seems to me like you were one of those haters, and as much as the CR team sucks, when people ask you *not* to storm their comment section with hate, you comply.
I think the best implementiom they can do is either 1 of this 2 idea Powerpoint conversion You can convert PowerPoint into coins and vice versa (1 power point 5 coins) Powerpoint purchase You can buy gadget gear star power amd hypercharge using power point If 1 power point js equal to 5 coins and an hyperchatge cost 5000 Then an hypercharhe cost a thousand power point And that will surely super boost the progression
I have a few skins realted to some popular movies, Bruce Lee skin for fang, John Wick skin for Colt, Fast and Furious skin for Chuck maybe idk, Shang Chi skin with grom, a thor skin for frank, maybe an archer queen skin for a sharp shooter not sure who. Just a thought.
Good idea
I'm surprised power point cap wasn't mentioned.
It got removed, what is there to mention or talk about?
@@noahz9639 many players, including me, are hoping for it to return. I currently have 43k power points and the number isn't going down even with new brawlers releasing so I, and people in a similar situation would appreciate having like a 10k power point cap and having the rest converted to coins.
@noahz9639 the fact that it being removed is technically a gold nerf?
@@noahz9639they removed it without telling the players. so everyone who was saving them to convert to gold got f-ed in the arse
@@MorbiusBlueBalls uhhhh pretty sure they did tell us beforehand? Doesn't kairos have an entire episode talking about how they're gonna remove the cap soon in one of his f2p episodes?
1. Kairos is biased in this video 2. Brawl stars is focusing more on casual and kids players rather than hardcore players 3. They became more p2w 4. It still kinda fun if you play casually
Look, starr drops are a mixed bag, but its frustrating spending 1500 tokens to get 100 token doublers in return.
I know that we’re getting lots of coins, but I literally have 12k PowerPoints and, since we need to buy gadgets, Star powers, gears and hypercharges (other than from Starr drops), I still don’t have enough coins. What I’m trying to say is that we need a new way to convert PP to coins.
I like the part where he talked about the 3d gamemodes...
He means the Chinese social lobbies
Wait really?! I hate larry and lawrie, and mico's bug, but people don't have to go that far and tell supercell to fire one of their coworkers
Sure am lucky to discover new podcast hour after its release
I feel like the social servers for bs would be better if you could challenge someone into a duel or make a tournament of like a 5v5 with the power league format (Basically friendlies)
I absolutely love the team, Kairos & their responses. I just want to add that the addition of hypercharges increased the amount of coins required. I believe they'll do the best thing. So, I'm hyped for the next update & I would like to see some improvements in the trophy road rewards & making it more fun. 2 seasons will be announced.
Opinion :they should buff the rewards by 10% just like the brawlers or they need to have separate drops just like in Clash royale because i don't want a profile icon that i don't like from a mythic after always getting rares
We might be getting more gold now, but we need to spend ALOT more to actually progress. back when boxes were in the game, I would just upgrade brawlers with what i had and wait for the star power/ gadget to come from brawl boxes, and it was surprisingly reliable. Now youre more likely to get a low amount of coins/pp or cosmetics than a sp, gadget or hc
The reason why starr drops bring more people is cuz brawl stars is making so many events to give free starr drops, if they would have done that with brawl boxes they would have been as popular. I'm not saying that you couldn't get brawl boxes for free before but it was definetly less than starr drops.
this is insane at 19:20 time you say that power league will now have modifier i just saw that think in my dream and after that i woke up this is just insane
Im no expert but 1 thing that crossed my mind is about the coins per player increasing after star drops What if it wasn't because star drops were better but because of the different distribution of rewards? Majority of the player base are casuals and were missing things like club league and late tiers of brawl pass Now most progression were moved into lower thresholds i think?
Yeah, but ✨️everything costs a lot and starr drops just give cosmetics✨️
I watched the whole podcast. I definitely recommend having it playing in the background as there is a lot of useful information. However if you don’t have the time thanks to Kairos he sums it all up very well :)
2 minutes ago is crazy
8:02 i would rather wait a week for a fix then play instead of an op brawler breaking every gamemode for almost a month
Yea it almost feels like they're making excuses just to favour those who bought the early access offer
So true
yep excuses were made, not too honest here
Well, that's just you but statistically, it does affect. I don't understand why people think everyone is like them, even when they are shown wrong with stats.
@@joshua_yt2268 All those broken brawlers were nerfed a fair amount of time after everyone got them. Besides, it wasn't that common
I don't know if the coin graph proves anything, because we don't know the drop rate of gadgets, star powers and hypercharges. those are very expensive, and they used to drop frequently in boxes. it could be a misconception of the players, but the information provided doesn't prove anything
I get real angry at BS sometimes, not calling for someone to be fired angry, but angry, and you ALWAYS get me in the right mindset, thank you Kai-dawg
Who's fault is that? not the community that's for sure... its there fault if they release something broken and makes the game literally unplayable... They have to check with the community to see if its a good idea to release something like larry.