Griefing Will Now Get You BANNED in GTA Online!? (New Community Guidelines Review)

2024 ж. 4 Сәу.
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Yesterday Rockstar released some brand new community guidelines for both GTA Online and Red Dead Online. In this video I go over the new guidelines and give my thoughts and opinions about them.
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  • If I get banned for killing someone that attacks me first, I'm done with GTA.

    @bencarpenter4869@bencarpenter4869Ай бұрын
    • That's not what it meant. It's talking about griefing using exploits, or literal harassment.

      @francskgp@francskgpАй бұрын
    • But that’s such a broad rule what would be specific instances

      @grassmonkeyO5@grassmonkeyO5Ай бұрын
    • ​@francskgp So if someone griefs me and I call them worthless, I'll get banned for harassment?

      @UnderwaterWax@UnderwaterWaxАй бұрын
    • I swear if i'm banned for defending other players from actual griefers and the actual griefer gets away with it, then i'm done with R* in general

      @MetalizedSoul@MetalizedSoulАй бұрын
    • that's not what spawn killing even is, what they mean is if you get I a jet, and kills someone ever, and over as soon as they spawn, yes you can ghost them, but as far as ik ghosting only lasts for for so long, and has some type of cool down

      @infinitehexington@infinitehexingtonАй бұрын
  • 2017: adds orbital cannon 2022: orbital cannon spam 2024: griefing guidelines while the cannon still exists

    @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
    • You meant to say 2024: watch your comments get shadowbanned in real time if you critise ANY Corporation or if it's against the "Narrative". Welcome to Amerika Comrade, or whichever western country that is controlled by Amerika

      @ZionistJew-oj1bo@ZionistJew-oj1boАй бұрын
    • Bro that's not what griefing is. Griefing is where you join someone just to destroy what they are working towards or kill someone who isn't trying to fight.

      @JackMarston-lg6dt@JackMarston-lg6dtАй бұрын
    • @@ZionistJew-oj1bo tf are you talking about

      @doomi_nukem@doomi_nukemАй бұрын
    • Look up rc bandito. That's what I use to grief.

      @slayerized27@slayerized27Ай бұрын
    • Got orb= got grieved. The Z gen takes Snowflake to the next level LMAO.

      @chuihoi1423@chuihoi1423Ай бұрын
  • They have been encouraging griefing since the beginning of Online by providing the massive session-wide pop up when selling shit like cargo There is no fixing griefing at all

    @MrTrool323@MrTrool323Ай бұрын
    • Lol good point... you can't make this shit up 😂

      @KreeptOut@KreeptOutАй бұрын
    • Fr

      @CatsBtrippin@CatsBtrippinАй бұрын
    • They just wanna look like the good guys in the eyes of activists, governments, etc.

      @Ananonymousguy-nk9oj@Ananonymousguy-nk9ojАй бұрын
    • Sure they could; they can disable those session-wide alerts to business activities, remove all other's player blips from the minimap, make it impossible for other players to directly/ indirectly damage one another, remove Bounties, the ability to call Mercenaries from either Merryweather or the Facility Security terminal, & remove the Orbital Cannon entirely from the game. I think that covers everything...

      @KevChaos86@KevChaos86Ай бұрын
    • @@KevChaos86 removal of the orbital cannon would be pretty good idea But they won't...

      @MrTrool323@MrTrool323Ай бұрын
  • Trying to make the gta community look less toxic lmao 😂.

    @krillinwinnin3980@krillinwinnin3980Ай бұрын
    • They saw how Ubisoft was handling it pretty well by rewarding kind people massively in R6S and Rockstar was so greedy that they did this with no rewards.

      @Thomas_Angelo@Thomas_AngeloАй бұрын
    • Cheaters on pc:

      @sebysebyt12@sebysebyt12Ай бұрын
    • Meanwhile dead by daylight still remains a toxic hot zone alongside LoL and valorant

      @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
    • They are the ones who literally added 75 militarized vehicles and weapons 😂

      @AllThatJazB@AllThatJazBАй бұрын
    • @@AllThatJazB yep!

      @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
  • They add the orbital cannon, a flying hover bike that shoots homing missiles, a flying car that shoots homing missiles, a numerous amount of weaponized vehicles, and now they have a problem with griefing??? They literally encourage this behavior. Hell they literally ping your cargo on the map telling people to come and blow it up.

    @dennisjohnson1937@dennisjohnson1937Ай бұрын
    • Дааа😂

      @SpongeBob.SuperStar@SpongeBob.SuperStarАй бұрын
    • Player count is dropping. Idk why they can't accept it. They've made billions....greed is real. Very real

      @gordondutch1277@gordondutch1277Ай бұрын
    • Their thought: Ban more acc, so ppl have to buy it again LOL.

      @chuihoi1423@chuihoi1423Ай бұрын
    • I have the disk ​@@chuihoi1423

      @dandino8100@dandino8100Ай бұрын
    • Because griefing, in their opinion, is specifically targeting a player by spawnkilling them or following them into different sessions (so blowing up cargo is okay according to rockstar), with this said, your point still stands: banning people for it is ridiculous and hypocritical.

      @allopic3764@allopic3764Ай бұрын
  • 3:36 This is exactly what im confused about. you tell people no griefing, but you tell people to fucking grief people and blow up their product. WTF?! And the fucking orbital cannon!!!

    @ElderBishopPastorReverendOssie@ElderBishopPastorReverendOssieАй бұрын
    • Do you know how strict the exploit rule is. I use the one were you swap weapons to avoid reload, is that not allowed anymore?

      @girlsluvunheard6292@girlsluvunheard6292Ай бұрын
    • @@girlsluvunheard6292 yes that's not allowed anymore. I think it is rather stupid but alas . That can get you banned.

      @user-jt9vp1un8x@user-jt9vp1un8xАй бұрын
  • A developer was probably selling his full businesses and got griefed. He probably got mad and made a big deal about it 😂

    @a.maricely@a.maricelyАй бұрын
  • Omfg thank god for voice chat change as soon as i join a lobby the first minute is me searching for the dude blasting his NBA youngboy playlist over his microphone, the kid whos mom is yelling at him and the guy whos playing next to a turbine engine.

    @amoose1709@amoose1709Ай бұрын
    • Don't forget the two 9 year old players who are verbally calling each other out continiously.

      @sgthulk9@sgthulk9Ай бұрын
    • @@sgthulk9yeah they be saying what they’re going to do in the public chat like it’s annoying

      @anthonymolina7416@anthonymolina7416Ай бұрын
    • I had voice chat turned off since GTA 5 came to PC.

      @Doowoo@DoowooАй бұрын
    • Don't forget about people with toddlers screaming in the background.

      @hussle2654@hussle2654Ай бұрын
    • Mute button: exists

      @IllIlIIllIlIIIll@IllIlIIllIlIIIllАй бұрын
  • The way I understand it is that, Rockstar's definition of griefing is not the same as the players' definition of griefing. In Rockstar's POV, griefing means harassing players, using exploits and glitches, witchhunting people, etc. In Rockstar's eyes, destroying cargo doesn't count as griefing. So, I don't think this actually means what people think it means. No, people aren't gonna get banned for destroying cargo or killing you. Because in Rockstar's eyes, that stuff doesn't count as griefing. If they didn't want people destroying cargo, they wouldn't have made it possible to begin with.

    @aeternus2036@aeternus2036Ай бұрын
    • I would love to see them get pinged so many times to the point they roll back on their terrible community guidelines cause it sucks and have to be reminded big time

      @Osmo-7777@Osmo-7777Ай бұрын
    • Yeah but like you said it’s different for other but when you report them it’s not going to matter if you doing it on rockstars definition or players. They just going to report you and add to their tale. They should just play patty cake or something and let the grown ups play.

      @joseluna-santos475@joseluna-santos47527 күн бұрын
    • See I'm not mad at that. I don't mind if someone blows up my cargo or me. I have a problem with when it's time for me to get my luck back, they are in God Mode and they are invisible from the radar the entire time and they can't be killed by rockets, orbital cannon or any weapon.

      @majourpayne@majourpayne26 күн бұрын
    • 100% agree

      @truspitta6992@truspitta699221 күн бұрын
  • "Don't do criminal things in our game solely about criminal lifestyles, characters and activities." - Rockstar probably

    @Blitzkrieg_Wolf@Blitzkrieg_WolfАй бұрын
    • It'll be kids probs crying about getting killed cause they wanna play gta as a driving sim and complain about killing in gta

      @DeathOnMe@DeathOnMeАй бұрын
    • @@DeathOnMethe game is 18 plus for a reason

      @pepperkakespisern5531@pepperkakespisern5531Ай бұрын
    • @@pepperkakespisern5531 fr

      @DeathOnMe@DeathOnMeАй бұрын
    • @@DeathOnMe ong bro these people are weak asf they should play other games or just playing in invite only sessions

      @DeathDefinition@DeathDefinitionАй бұрын
    • Is not kids, it's this channel and people that watch it

      @Dhako345@Dhako345Ай бұрын
  • We're now in a time where PvP amounts to hiding off radar and in RC vehicles, Mk II spamming, and the occassional orbital canon. They're essentially putting a bandaid on a festering open wound.

    @NioFromXbox@NioFromXboxАй бұрын
    • facts 😂 i remember back then when the only op vehicles you had to worry about was the tank or somebody going to the military base to get a jet now it got out of hand

      @norrybabes@norrybabesАй бұрын
    • More like trying to put a band aid on a dead peron

      @shanemadejthedemon8951@shanemadejthedemon8951Ай бұрын
    • Exactly

      @qui-gonsgin8747@qui-gonsgin874726 күн бұрын
  • Bruh banned for practically defending yourself??? That's literally like suspending a kid who was constantly being bullied and punishin him for simply fighting back💀🤦🏿‍♂️ I'm convinced rockstar is low-key siding//workin with the griefers

    @JarelJay@JarelJayАй бұрын
    • Rockstar has always been on our side. That's why Oppressor and Orbital cannon exist.

      @cosmo9208@cosmo920826 күн бұрын
  • Rockstar: Has a mission literally called "Don't Fuck with Dre" Also Rockstar: Won't allow you to type the word "Fuck" without getting censored

    @sooperdude22@sooperdude22Ай бұрын
    • Hell, even 'ass' gets your message filtered

      @thevalorousdong7675@thevalorousdong7675Ай бұрын
    • I sh*t u not, some random was acting like an idiot and I txted them "wow...just wow" and for 20min, I got that "checking for profanity" bs Like really Rockstar???

      @aaronpalmer2094@aaronpalmer209428 күн бұрын
    • They're full of contradictions. They should sell rstar off to someone with some sense

      @user-md7ck5bz7l@user-md7ck5bz7l19 күн бұрын
  • So if someone destroy 25 million worth of your cargo it’s ok cuz it’s part of the game but if you take them out twice with the savage your the villain…ight

    @blazinxfury7770@blazinxfury7770Ай бұрын
    • Destroying cargo is part of the game. Get good

      @yungmanrumble@yungmanrumbleАй бұрын
    • @@yungmanrumble SO IS PVP. GET EDUCATED

      @blinkq_530@blinkq_530Ай бұрын
    • So is pvp jackass😂​@@yungmanrumble

      @sawmaanbina2102@sawmaanbina2102Ай бұрын
    • @@yungmanrumble hunting cargo grinders is griefing. Every time that red cargo box pops up on the map, griefers flock to it to destroy it. “Griefing” is ruining the player experience, so tell me how cargo griefing isn’t “griefing”.

      @yeah_ImAFish@yeah_ImAFishАй бұрын
    • @@yeah_ImAFish because the game told me to destroy it 🤷🏽‍♂️

      @yungmanrumble@yungmanrumbleАй бұрын
  • I wonder if this will actually succeed in killing off freemode pvp. I hope it doesn't because freemode pvp is the main reason why i still play this game alot nowadays, grinding got old years ago.

    @LovelyRose98@LovelyRose98Ай бұрын
    • Billion dollars in armored vehicles and punished for using them in free mode. Makes sense.

      @big_rockstar@big_rockstarАй бұрын
    • @@big_rockstar 2024 Rockstar Games are so rotten

      @LovelyRose98@LovelyRose98Ай бұрын
    • I managed to stick around late 2022 through early 2023 as I was into freemode pvp, without it I don't know if I would've lasted the way I did.

      @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
    • Freemode PVP is already dead. It's so rare I find a fight that is actually fun anymore. Peoole constantly escalate fights until all parties are pretty much sitting in their facilities trying to orb the first one to go outside.

      @Soniphex@SoniphexАй бұрын
    • @@LovelyRose98 What managing one game for 11-12 years does to a company 2014 Rockstar over 2024 Rockstar any day

      @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
  • 3:40 RS actively telling other players to grief your cargo and putting that new rule in is like somebody putting your keys to a high-end car on the roof and getting mad it got stolen.

    @StoneOcean24@StoneOcean24Ай бұрын
    • Don’t make me tap the sign. *Missions that ping you on the minimap are sanctioned pvp events and not griefing*

      @FreeAimKid@FreeAimKidАй бұрын
    • @@FreeAimKid this. they literaly give examples to what they're considering griefing

      @scarletlego2550@scarletlego2550Ай бұрын
    • Cargo griefing is wack Oh geee I made $7000 from destroying that randoms Cargo with my Depressor MK2

      @lateshow4783@lateshow4783Ай бұрын
    • probably is implying to associates griefing their ceos cargo & team members in missions who grief the team.

      @updownleftright883@updownleftright883Ай бұрын
    • No it's more like directly giving someone the keys and then reporting it stolen

      @noname-li5tl@noname-li5tlАй бұрын
  • If anything is actually done with this change, this will let all the overly aggressive low levels become even more of an issue. They’ll keep starting fights with people minding their own business, then run to make reports when they get steamrolled by their targets

    @darthh3atran@darthh3atranАй бұрын
    • Fr

      @ynwslasher2457@ynwslasher2457Ай бұрын
    • Exactly, so easy to exploit

      @bulgarianreaper6587@bulgarianreaper6587Ай бұрын
  • April Fool's was 4 days ago, Rockstar!

    @AlexT0210@AlexT0210Ай бұрын
  • Listen sonny, I still remember the days when Rockstar encouraged pvp and the multi-player experience.

    @KreeptOut@KreeptOutАй бұрын
    • What these tryhards do, aint pvp. All they do is abuse stuff and kill themselves so u wont get a score on them.

      @shanevanholm2684@shanevanholm2684Ай бұрын
    • @@shanevanholm2684 amen!

      @LCOfficerUNIT097@LCOfficerUNIT097Ай бұрын
    • They even encouraged it last year with the Raiju. Lol

      @lI-MASSEL-Il@lI-MASSEL-IlАй бұрын
  • R* : Promotes and strongly encourages players to harass and grief each other for over 10 years, while people begging this to be stopped. R* (in 2024) : WHO SAID THAT'S OKAY?!?! YOU'RE BANNED, BOY!!!

    @LighthouseCape@LighthouseCapeАй бұрын
  • I wonder if they even know what griefing is...

    @pedinhuh16@pedinhuh16Ай бұрын
    • A player attacking another player. That's what a griefer is.

      @CommissionerLawWonder86@CommissionerLawWonder86Ай бұрын
    • And what your take on it mine is if you don't profit in any way and you kill players more than once that's grieving to me as if they aren't going to profit from killing me why do it just cause there board or have anoth money in there account nar ban them all🤣

      @onewheelkid7424@onewheelkid742428 күн бұрын
  • Im not stopping running people out of lobbies if they destroy cargo especially mine. Let the ban come!

    @mrgibbons9995@mrgibbons9995Ай бұрын
    • I thought that was the point of the game tho lol... you can destroy my cargo if you want. That's part of the game.. but I can also run you out of town and control the lobby so I can then proceed with my business work.. if that isn't the entire premise of the game then what is?

      @mrlegkick91@mrlegkick91Ай бұрын
    • @@mrlegkick91 some people run by different rules. But for me? Touch cargo or grief obviously and you become my target. Even if it's not my cargo.

      @mrgibbons9995@mrgibbons9995Ай бұрын
    • @@mrgibbons9995 ye same. Unless I'm high af and incapable of pvping lol

      @mrlegkick91@mrlegkick91Ай бұрын
    • @@mrlegkick91 my brudda! 🛐

      @CatsBtrippin@CatsBtrippinАй бұрын
    • @@mrgibbons9995 That's the reason I never play public lobbies. It is impossible to deliver anything. And also because there are modders in 100% of lobbies and it is just unplayable

      @marcapouli7805@marcapouli7805Ай бұрын
  • imagine telling your friends you got banned for spawn killing someone

    @IIIIIllIIIIllII@IIIIIllIIIIllIIАй бұрын
    • Imagine being a little sissy and reporing someone for killing u lol

      @goddosyourself7970@goddosyourself7970Ай бұрын
    • “This bozo blew up my sale and he reported me when I started killing him” 😭😭😭 no reason it should just roll off the tongue like that but it Alr feels abt right

      @maggutz@maggutzАй бұрын
    • Thing is Spawn killing only can work 4 times after that you can become ghosted to that person.

      @retro8696@retro8696Ай бұрын
    • @@retro8696 2 times.You can kill a person only 2 times during the span of 5 min before they can choose to ghost u

      @goddosyourself7970@goddosyourself7970Ай бұрын
  • Next thing you know you get banned for shooting at people doing Stand Your Ground

    @jamikes94@jamikes94Ай бұрын
  • GTA Online has got really big over the years to the point now Rockstar is trying to come up with new rules while at the same time contradicting themselves, becuz they don't know what they're doing. 🤦🏿‍♂️🎮

    @Deo721@Deo721Ай бұрын
  • Let's not get our hopes up about this

    @TheFreeAgent2024@TheFreeAgent2024Ай бұрын
  • An enemy player is moving cargo, destroy it for $2000 and RP rewards. Also Rockstar: An enemy player is moving cargo, destroy it for a ban.

    @BlewGhost@BlewGhostАй бұрын
    • That's not how this works. Rockstar specifically stated that griefing in UNintended ways, is a bannable offense. The cargo and business vehicles are VERY MUCH INTENDED!

      @Kyugorn@KyugornАй бұрын
    • @@Kyugorn blowing up cargo is not a banable offense. It’s still encouraged. But using cheats and exploits to do so, as well as extreme toxicity, will.

      @LCOfficerUNIT097@LCOfficerUNIT097Ай бұрын
  • This is super subjective. Lets say i witness a level 1000 destroying a level 10s cargo over and over. The level 10 is determined but doesn't realise he can find a new session and repeatedly gets destroyed. I decide to intervene and bully the level 1000 a bit so the level 10 can actually play the game. Can that dude report me and get me banned? Technically i am intentionally annoying and killing another player 🤷‍♂️

    @mrlegkick91@mrlegkick91Ай бұрын
    • It depends on the lawyer's level

      @axelastori484@axelastori484Ай бұрын
    • That's my concern as well, griefers are definitely going to abuse the new moderation system to get people who retaliate against their BS suspended or outright banned. They're willing to DDOS people and get their Microsoft accounts banned, so don't put abusing the moderation system beneath them.

      @jonathanjuarez5544@jonathanjuarez5544Ай бұрын
    • Yup. invite only sessions for me. maybe i play heists with others sometimes. No more public lobbies. hck with rockstar and their dm rules.

      @chuckh4077@chuckh407725 күн бұрын
    • Mind ya business simple

      @jefffort7714@jefffort771421 күн бұрын
  • what they consider griefing is the examples they give. blowing up someones cargo like the game says doesn't count, but spawn killing someone over and over does.

    @scarletlego2550@scarletlego2550Ай бұрын
  • Wait letting artificial intelligence run things is a bad idea?! Man who would have thought, honestly I don’t expect much to change after this “update”

    @Seth_D@Seth_DАй бұрын
  • I understand the stream sniping and people intentionally ruining races or other game modes. But spawn killing shouldn't count as griefing. If it's that much of an issue they should add in 10 sec spawn protection, but make it so the player also can't shoot other players for those 10 secs.

    @smokedout7129@smokedout7129Ай бұрын
    • True or let someone go ghost as soon as they die or smth

      @Hex05@Hex05Ай бұрын
    • If you don't want to get stream sniped, dont stream. 😂

      @IllIlIIllIlIIIll@IllIlIIllIlIIIllАй бұрын
    • Just skill issue if you're dying when you Spawn, with spawnkeks not that many can do it apart from at certain areas like base and beach

      @DeathOnMe@DeathOnMeАй бұрын
    • How to get keked:

      @b-hopping@b-hoppingАй бұрын
  • Rockstar Devs are getting off work and going straight to Super Weinie Hut Jrs nowadays

    @mkultra8244@mkultra8244Ай бұрын
  • I highly doubt it. They always say they take cheating and griefing seriously but never punish them. Modders and scumbags own the game, not Rockstar, they're not gonna do shit. I'll be shocked if they actually started banning them.

    @autumn2876@autumn2876Ай бұрын
    • They’re gonna do what they always do. These measures will attack everyone but the problem. It’s already pretty obvious that cargo griefing is okay, but now if I retaliate against the cargo griefer, I can get banned.

      @Syntex366@Syntex366Ай бұрын
    • Modders gettin hella banned

      @FernandoLopez-jg9uy@FernandoLopez-jg9uy21 күн бұрын
  • This new griefing guideline is concerning for me since I love griefing griefers but I guess I will have to adapt now. Still good if it gets rid of barcodes and other weird players though 🤷🏻‍♀️

    @LovelyRose98@LovelyRose98Ай бұрын
    • Seeing barcodes has similar names. I hope I don't report the wrong one

      @Marky-Mark1337@Marky-Mark1337Ай бұрын
    • I like seeing them get clapped Personally I haven't really griefed myself, I have done it very few times and the last time I did it wasn't pretty.

      @NepuSoggyMango@NepuSoggyMangoАй бұрын
    • Learn to use an rc bandito

      @slayerized27@slayerized27Ай бұрын
  • Players and some vehicle spawns can be influenced by facing away from the desired area for them to appear in. Most players catch on quick to doing that when calling a personal vehicle but if you kill someone and then look away from where you want them to spawn, you can look back and they will most likely be there. It's more of a spawn trap than a spawn kill.

    @BigMobe@BigMobeАй бұрын
  • If this for freemode im fully done with the game but if its for people on your team in missions or if one of your ceo members griefs your cargo… then thats okay, ban em

    @updownleftright883@updownleftright883Ай бұрын
  • this is why i always go to invite session only

    @PenguieYT@PenguieYTАй бұрын
    • bloody right. Starting a new account from PS4 to Xbox one S. (Ill get the X series later this year)

      @chuckh4077@chuckh407725 күн бұрын
  • Now do these mechanisms against voice chat abuse work for non-English speaking regions? Hard to account for insults in every known language.

    @Chris-ok4zo@Chris-ok4zoАй бұрын
  • I play on PC and I say it doesn't make any difference there, so much, because more than 90% of a lobby uses mod menu, they are unplayable. So it wasn't possible to grief anyway.

    @paulosojunior@paulosojuniorАй бұрын
  • They made it so easy to grief other players, even in OG contact missions ive had random team members just run me over and kill me to ruin the job. Only now they want to crack down on cheaters/griefers? I wont believe it until i see it honestly. The game itself promotes griefing while telling players to attack other people's cargo - and gave* them an orbital cannon to do it 🤦

    @MazeMaker4Life@MazeMaker4LifeАй бұрын
    • What was the name of the guy that run you over? Mabey i know him.

      @derbigboss2704@derbigboss2704Ай бұрын
    • ​@@derbigboss2704everybody does that in contact missions 😂 and then they destroy your personal vehicle

      @FernandoLopez-jg9uy@FernandoLopez-jg9uy21 күн бұрын
    • @@FernandoLopez-jg9uy well i do that often.

      @derbigboss2704@derbigboss270421 күн бұрын
  • I’m worried about the spawn trapping as I snipe a lot a beach and airport and have memorized the spawns so am I going to get punished for having lots of experience in the game and being quick on the sticks

    @MrJastus@MrJastusАй бұрын
    • Yes , it's called unfair advantage . He's not even ready to start the pvp and you are killing him . That's shameful 😅 Im surprised you didn't know that

      @Mr-singleforever@Mr-singleforeverАй бұрын
    • @@Mr-singleforever how is it unfair the game is 10+ years old if you don’t know the spawns by now what are you doing and the game has built in spawn protection that gives you more than enough time to prepare

      @MrJastus@MrJastusАй бұрын
    • @@Mr-singleforevergo to super weenie hut jrs u 🐱

      @ynwslasher2457@ynwslasher2457Ай бұрын
    • @@Mr-singleforever 😂😂 only experienced people play beach and ap alot lol don’t come at me

      @ynwslasher2457@ynwslasher2457Ай бұрын
    • ​@@Mr-singleforever same unfair advantage as not knowing how to read, eh?

      @thevalorousdong7675@thevalorousdong7675Ай бұрын
  • For the spawn killing thing does it mean if your in pvp do I gotta wait for them to spawn for a few seconds or what?

    @vitalwarrior5685@vitalwarrior5685Ай бұрын
  • Its good that they are now adding it the only problem is that they only added it like 11 years later and also gta6 is right around the corner

    @HORIZONS_Z4@HORIZONS_Z4Ай бұрын
    • Making all these changes now makes me think gta 6 online is a long ways off. 6 will probably come out soon but the online part might be a ways off. Can't really think of any other reasons for them making this many changes in this games final stage of life

      @Brandon02493@Brandon02493Ай бұрын
    • One theory is that rockstar is implementing all these new radical ideas and changes now as a way of testing to see the best ways to do gta 6. In other words they are essentially treating gta 5 online as a ghinnie pig to find out how they should run gta 6 online

      @foxtrotnine2504@foxtrotnine2504Ай бұрын
  • 5:32 I have been invited to so many organizations that are just racial slurs with practically no difference except maybe a space, it's insane

    @fusion9258@fusion9258Ай бұрын
  • It sounds like Rockstar created their own monster. And now they're penalizing the players. I got griefed mercilessly when I started playing this game. Here's what I did I kept practicing and getting better until now I win close to 80% of my 1v1s. If you're not good don't complain. Practice

    @nikwestphal7000@nikwestphal7000Ай бұрын
    • how much patience would you say you have for fights? any thoughts on the sheer amount of time people fight in online? Long fights irritate me personally, other and less boring stuff to do for me.

      @bruhbottomtext8007@bruhbottomtext8007Ай бұрын
    • To Pvp in general you just need to have knowledge + right weapons / vehicles / and how to counter whatever a person is using + playstyle they use. Like a random casual noob - Would probably try and fight somebody using Tank head on and get spawn killed when really option B: Is to spawn a counter like Toreador / Mk2 asap and end the Tank easily before going back to foot or using that vehicle for couple kills. If somebody is cracked at Sniper vs Sniper and your getting beaten - Change the tactics and maybe try close up combat or vehicles - perhaps you can exploit a weakness they have. - These conditions usually beat like 80% of the casuals fighting by outsmarting them vs having superior or elite aim. Tryhards / PvPers already think like this- And these battles can be really long even when they are fighting fair because are same guys are most likely to teleport, orbit , use rc vehicles , off radar, ghost , thermal snipe pretty much everything Online has to offer to win + You need counter that or else they going to win easily with those tactics.

      @truth-seeker2@truth-seeker2Ай бұрын
  • I noticed that the "Report" menu has been updated with the same descriptions from the updated Guidelines. Last night, in a lobby of about 12 players, 2-3 low to mid level players attacked me (first) and I fought back killing them 3-4 times. I saw two distinct "players are voting for you to be kicked" notifications and assumed it was two of the three chasing me around to "get their kills back" and shortly after I was BOOTED from the session with the message "you were kicked by other players." I've seen the message before, but this is the first time that I've actually gotten tossed from the session. Perhaps FEWER votes are necessary now?

    @mk2112@mk2112Ай бұрын
    • Maybe, it has always taken like 1/2 the lobby to vote you out so that is possible. Join a CEO and start a mission when they start reporting you I believe that keeps you in.

      @jondee6496@jondee6496Ай бұрын
  • 5:03 For once I disagree with you. I never give ground to the "It's GTA" excuse - not when GTA IV allowed people to setup freeroam lobbies where you couldn't directly harm other players. Given almost every single one you joined had that turned on, I'd say that spoke volumes about how the playerbase wanted to treat freeroam - because if you want to fight players, Deathmatches exist for that reason. All GTA Online needed was that same system, with 2 additions; 1. Allow players to choose if they wanted to join a PvP-Off or On lobby, just like how it already divides us between our aiming settings. 2. The option to perma-ghost yourself to individual players, just in case someone tried to grief you in those PvP-Off lobbies trying to endlessly hit you with a car & keep you grounded, like RC Car trolling K/D Warriors. I'd rather "just go on a rampage" WITH players and take on the whole city, instead of AGAINST players and the city being a distraction.

    @ZakRas@ZakRasАй бұрын
  • So they don't want you to grief players BUT the game is to a relevant extent designed to have PvP scenarios where, in the end, you do end up grief other players, especially when you destroy someone's cargo: you are literally prevent them to gain money and thus progress through the game. That's very contradictory. Or Rockstar has double standards: if you grief and you make someone else loosing money then it's "fine" in their eyes...

    @lucacrevatin1100@lucacrevatin1100Ай бұрын
  • The problem isnt griefing itself, its the extreme strength of some tools. I like pvp sometimes and with no griefers id have to become the aggressor to get it(which i dont like doing)

    @robotic-race@robotic-raceАй бұрын
    • I think the problem is people not knowing passive mode and invite only lobbies exist

      @aceclop@aceclopАй бұрын
    • ​@@aceclopplayers shouldn't have to be stuck in boring invite only lobbies or stuck in passive simply because someone is an asshole.

      @Brandon02493@Brandon02493Ай бұрын
    • @@Brandon02493 You're right......... They can also do this Press pause Go over to GTA online Select find new session And within seconds they won't have to deal with that person anymore. Like there's no reason anyone should ever complain about getting harassed in GTA

      @aceclop@aceclopАй бұрын
    • @@Brandon02493 Welll that's the thing people can also do this powerful thing called find a new session

      @aceclop@aceclopАй бұрын
    • @Brandon02493 skill issue

      @nickjonathan4043@nickjonathan4043Ай бұрын
  • I find it sad how rockstar are now starting to fix this problem, but lets be honest griefers are going to grief even with this being put into place 🤷

    @shego8526@shego8526Ай бұрын
    • Facts

      @majourpayne@majourpayne26 күн бұрын
  • >”positive gaming experience for everyone” >M rated game >adds annoying vehicles to the game >makes the game replace your actual life with grinding >doesn’t listen to the community >reports don’t work and cheaters don’t get banned will totally work 100%

    @peconi47@peconi4728 күн бұрын
  • Ghillie, destroying cargo is not griefing. It is very clear that Rockstars definiton of griefing is not the same as the communities.

    @KattalystFr@KattalystFrАй бұрын
  • Sounds like they are intentionally trying to lose players. I was going to mention them telling you to grief cargo they then punish you for it? But you beat me to it.. Makes absolutey no sense.

    @jondee6496@jondee6496Ай бұрын
    • No, it's all about the money. The shark card money is with non-griefers. If they "clean" the game up little kids who will use mom's debit card won't leave the game. Toxic griefers don't spend, so... to the curb with them.

      @zoso1980@zoso198022 күн бұрын
  • I think they need to focus on only removing modders from online, I don't mind getting greifed cause i can always fight back, but against modders im nothing, litteraly nothing, modders prettty much own my account

    @edran4449@edran4449Ай бұрын
  • I play invite only sessions to make money. The other problem is Moders on PC that will ruin a room. The problem with greifers is having your vehicle blown up, then having to call insurance to get it back. Then get back to where you were. Too much time.

    @PastTime777@PastTime777Ай бұрын
  • Whats the cut off for being considered a griefer? 5 kills on someone? 10 kills?... and how exactly do they verify whats happened? Can i just lie abour how many times somebody killed me? How do they determine how the altercation began? If somebody kills me first a few times and i get a come back and start killing them is that ok? Lol... i feel like whoever wrote this doesn't have a solid understanding of gta or online gaming in general

    @mrlegkick91@mrlegkick91Ай бұрын
  • My only problem is since its A.I. the system can easily be abused and the tryhards will end up abusing this system when they get upset to get you banned. If this system is actually going to work it needs to compare player stats like how often they blow up cargo, or the type of players they typically go after like, low levels, do they leave jobs a lot, or if they've been in bad sport before, etc. Obviously it still wouldn't be perfect but it would be a lot better. Plus blowing up cargo should work like personal vehicles so if you go into every lobby and blow up 10 pieces of cargo each time your rep goes down and eventually you go into bad sport since that's griefing. But the bad sport threshold would have to be lowered since right now you have to blow up like 50 vehicles in a row to get into badsport.

    @Nick-dh3nd@Nick-dh3ndАй бұрын
    • Funny but no Funny thing is that this is actually happening now

      @wolfxiefc8947@wolfxiefc894713 күн бұрын
  • Rockstar is about to bud light themselves lmao

    @smallmiraclesgarage622@smallmiraclesgarage622Ай бұрын
    • You have no idea how much I'm hoping for that. Nowadays the bean counters have their heads so far up their asses, that it's just better to let them salt the earth, and deal with the consequences. Just look at Volition for a quick and recent example of "bud lighting" in the videogame industry lmfao

      @unclejack8530@unclejack8530Ай бұрын
  • R* is just switching the blame of grifing on to the players. Instead of their shitty game design that prioritises capital extraction instead of art.

    @hayk3000@hayk3000Ай бұрын
  • i hunt griefers everyday and get reported by these window lickers all the time apparently it's fine for them to fly around on a broomstick killing anyone who dares to play the game but as soon as i kill them i'm a griefer . The other issue is getting reported for cheating by players who lack knowledge of the game mechanics for example i've been reported multiple times for being in " god mode " because noobs couldn't shoot me out through the windscreen of my halftrack and crap like that.

    @carguy7243@carguy7243Ай бұрын
  • To everyone who doesn’t understand, they aren’t trying to remove PVP and cargo destruction. They are trying to get rid of consistent killing of the same player. Like using a MK2 or thermal sniper to constantly spawn kill someone

    @CT-8500@CT-8500Ай бұрын
    • So I can stilll attack all players in the city with my MK2? As long I dont spam killing 1 person?

      @anassmohout2876@anassmohout2876Ай бұрын
    • @@anassmohout2876 pretty much

      @CT-8500@CT-8500Ай бұрын
    • Thats pvp tho at ap you need fast reflexes

      @ynwslasher2457@ynwslasher2457Ай бұрын
  • I haven't played the game in a few weeks and didn't see these changes coming. I mostly wonder how it's going to work when someone attacks you first. What if you retaliate and utterly destroy them? Would that be considered griefing? Could you be suspended/banned for that? I'm just going to wait a while and see what happens in the community before I choose to hop back on the game

    @GiratinaTech@GiratinaTechАй бұрын
  • I only play in open lobby just to see what’s happening out there. But when I’m grinding for my businesses, I play in invite only session or with my friends in a closed friend lobby.

    @derricklough1172@derricklough117227 күн бұрын
  • If there's something they need to do, is make the report function… functional. It's literally just buttons you press, they aren't reports that anyone and anything is going to check.

    @ZenomniusOmnipotence@ZenomniusOmnipotenceАй бұрын
    • That's literally what this update. Basically saying them functions will actually do something after 11 years

      @Brandon02493@Brandon02493Ай бұрын
  • Put things in the game too grief with oppressors, orbital cannon, weaponized vehicles. Rockstar: "don't grief" 😂

    @static_shockz@static_shockzАй бұрын
  • The texting never worked for me after I would send a first message to someone. Glad they’re focused on important things.

    @JV-mw7gv@JV-mw7gvАй бұрын
    • I guess my laughing emo will offend someone and i'll get reported for bullying. lol

      @chuckh4077@chuckh407725 күн бұрын
  • As a player that was griefed for years trying to make money through businesses in GTA Online's public sessions all I can say is... ... LOL... 😂🤣😂

    @X360PHILNUMBR1@X360PHILNUMBR1Ай бұрын
  • Because adding friendly fire off sessions is too much effort

    @clarksonoceallachain8536@clarksonoceallachain8536Ай бұрын
  • well, i guess i'm getting banned for defending other players from actual griefers then...

    @MetalizedSoul@MetalizedSoulАй бұрын
    • Yep

      @ynwslasher2457@ynwslasher2457Ай бұрын
  • I got comm banned for 3 days for callin someone a dummy. That was years ago though.

    @bencarpenter4869@bencarpenter4869Ай бұрын
    • No. All that happened is that people reported you for annoying them via voice chat and it banned you until you got your friends or someone to commend you so it would get removed.

      @Overqualification@OverqualificationАй бұрын
  • Trying to destroy someone's cargo is just part of the game. They definitely should add measures to make it a lot harder, though. And anyone who's played the game legitimately is not gonna constantly use their orbital cannon anyway given the price it's hardly a greifer tool unless you glitch it but that's not the way the game intended.

    @anthonyharvey2221@anthonyharvey2221Ай бұрын
  • Yea. Like others mentioned. Fighting back these griefers, will get YOU reported. So this will be fun. Edit: one other question, what does this mean for those trying to be bad sport? I dont know the purpose, but yea 🤨

    @djn2872@djn2872Ай бұрын
  • What do they consider griefing, that’s my biggest concern. Going by their detention, using the shunt boost launch method against randoms in cars is “griefing”, so could I be punished for that? Whole thing seems concerning.

    @Dragono_@Dragono_Ай бұрын
  • 4:20 'Surely not, right?' I lost it at this part lmao

    @kiranaifu@kiranaifuАй бұрын
  • i'm happy they added rules about grieving because i was done with lobbys with random's.

    @jonmoore8653@jonmoore8653Ай бұрын
    • the rules do not change anything. the rules also cannot ban you. rockstar have to do this and this is the reason nothing will change. the guidelines of gta online never allowed cheaters and modders. and they never did anything against it. they also never talked about to actively do anything at all. they just announced they will change the guidelines. thats basically it.

      @kennythemeat@kennythemeatАй бұрын
  • Friendly competition doesn’t exist gta 5 especially fair play with all those glitches in the game 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

    @Kilo199@Kilo199Ай бұрын
  • *laughs in invite only sessions*

    @benarchyuk837@benarchyuk837Ай бұрын
    • How boring...

      @slayerized27@slayerized27Ай бұрын
  • I think they will b try different srtats I've been play for 4 so ood years and the whole mic thing I keep mine off because they can listen in weathered or not talking shit which i don't do anything its like they permanently have game chat on off but can listen in if they choose bot or not. Love the vids

    @helainesaeger8901@helainesaeger8901Ай бұрын
  • I'm perfectly fine with anti-griefing measures (except considering killing a player as griefing when there's multiple options to counter this if you don't wanna be PvP) but if they're gonna do that, then they need to remove that BS where people can just blow up your cargo. Destroying another players Cargo is encouraged, despite there being almost no actual rewards, meaning the reason 99% of people actually destroy your cargo is BECAUSE they wanna grief you. How is normal open world PvP not okay, but destroying cargo is fine. Well, destroying cargo makes you play the game more to get it back, aka, it helps Rockstars metrics. Just another reinforcement that Rockstar cares less and less about their fans with each passing day...

    @DeadSpacedOut@DeadSpacedOutАй бұрын
  • The Banned Speedrun Meta Just Changed Forever

    @JokerForLife@JokerForLifeАй бұрын
    • Joker gta5 new ban speedrun world record video 😮

      @HORIZONS_Z4@HORIZONS_Z4Ай бұрын
    • *coughs in game chat* _banned_

      @MazeMaker4Life@MazeMaker4LifeАй бұрын
  • Imagine make and become a game in to PC. Where the player does illegal stuff (Kill, Drugs, Sex, etc). Rockstar going in to politics 101

    @CorreQueTeGorreo@CorreQueTeGorreoАй бұрын
  • As a grinder who lives in Invite Only, i see this as an absolute win

    @tmv534@tmv53420 сағат бұрын
  • I think "griefing" refers more to the usage of cheat menus and stalking and harassment than lobby fights. I was literally fighting some clown who was loitering around a business battle for no other reason than to grief me while I was getting crates and he didn't get a single kill and the fool was macro'ing RPGs left and right. I blasted him three times and each time he spawned directly within view of me in front of the paleto bay factory-thing that one of the crate battles happens at. There's literally no way either of us could not kill each other where we were standing, I was sweating my bag off trying to get out of there with my crate and not get my sparrow blown up. The guy was clearly griefing, and I literally had no choice but to gun him down as soon as he appeared in front of me in the street. So there's no judgement call on either of that, because what I did was out of necessity to survive and take my crate, and he was being a fucking dick, but despite the macro'ing that I think should be patched with a forced reload time with no reset on RPGs and Homing launchers - the guy didn't do anything that the game doesn't allow you to do. But he was being a prick, I don't want guys like that to get banned but I do want to be able to tell them what for when I beat them and get the crates back to my nightclub.

    @mysteriousfleas@mysteriousfleasАй бұрын
  • Makes me wonder when they say cheating and exploits, dose that include things like the new easy way to get all the weapons and gear by just climbing up on the roof in the set up mission for the cluckin Bell raid? Also I have seen so many people find work arounds for using the N word and crap like that for their CEO name. I really don’t think they will be able to stop griefing completely unfortunately. I guess we’ll see where this goes.

    @brimstonethewolf2020@brimstonethewolf2020Ай бұрын
    • the game itself has characters saying n word so would be dumb to ban for language

      @johndoe-dj3iy@johndoe-dj3iyАй бұрын
    • they just changed the guidelines. they never talked about to do anything about it in terms of banning people. they never did and they probably dont start today 3with that. the only thing they will enforce is voice and text chats. because they have an automated tool for that(AI). and also just when it is completely bulletproof(otherwise they need to deal with reports and actually spend resources on that.)

      @kennythemeat@kennythemeatАй бұрын
    • If that “N” word is so wrong to use, why does that one race use it? Oh wait the double standard! my bad

      @amberchester2244@amberchester2244Ай бұрын
  • Idk maybe Rockstar will get serious maybe they wont, they havent done shit about people using cheats like godmode and other exploits, idk i guess we'll jus have to wait and see

    @Pit8813@Pit8813Ай бұрын
  • Quick question: Recently made a new account in gta, which hangar should I buy, the ones at LSIA or Fort Zancudo?

    @LittleCesarReinoso31718@LittleCesarReinoso31718Ай бұрын
    • your gonna want the fort zancudo it gives you access to the base with the hanger located there.

      @Codark1242@Codark1242Ай бұрын
  • Be nice if they would change passive mode to where you can still be a ceo/mc, use guns and still do work but cant kill other players and other players cant kill you

    @Brandon02493@Brandon02493Ай бұрын
    • Yeah that’s called invite only lobby

      @blacmacca2910@blacmacca2910Ай бұрын
    • ​@@blacmacca2910no it's not, invite onlys heavily restrict what you can do

      @Hex05@Hex05Ай бұрын
    • @@Hex05no they don’t… what’s the point of you grinding if your not gonna use the stuff ur grinding for to kill other players it’s literally the definition of the game

      @J-237@J-237Ай бұрын
    • @@Hex05it doesn’t you must be thinking of solo sessions

      @LunarBootes@LunarBootes29 күн бұрын
  • how can we report the rockstar as griefer because they tell people to annoy us while we are selling cargo

    @gta5onlineshorts@gta5onlineshortsАй бұрын
    • and their npc's on the sidewalks are calling us names like piece of shit and juicer!!

      @okthen4820@okthen4820Ай бұрын
    • @@okthen4820 also npc drivers hit us intentionally which is annoying too, I don't think that rockstar follows their guideline.

      @gta5onlineshorts@gta5onlineshortsАй бұрын
    • ​@@gta5onlineshortsr* made the NPCs crash in u on purpose then annoying mfers

      @FernandoLopez-jg9uy@FernandoLopez-jg9uy21 күн бұрын
  • I have a serious question, with the thruster in gta5 online all that is needed to not explode from a rocket is literately to fly IN A STRAIGHT LINE, this is a bug so does this mean it’s ban-able, because that means the thruster is unusable until it’s fixed and this glitch has been there since it was added so…. you fix it rockstar, pls

    @manicplanet5223@manicplanet522329 күн бұрын
  • Billion dollars in armored vehicles and punished for using them in free mode. Makes sense. So its just a grinding game now? Passive mode should never existed and about 30 years ago they were making games with PVE mode and PVP mode... Why did this change? if there is a guy that doesn't want to kill people put him in a lobby with other people that don't want to kill people? RDR 1 had this option. Shouldn't be able to go invisible and text me..

    @big_rockstar@big_rockstarАй бұрын
    • 4real.

      @okthen4820@okthen4820Ай бұрын
  • I remember you can spawn kill with the avenger with thermal. Your heat signature will light before your screen fades out from black. Good times... dont worry, we only did that to griefers or anyone that killed us...

    @Marky-Mark1337@Marky-Mark1337Ай бұрын
    • Thermal don't work in the avenger anymore sadly

      @Brandon02493@Brandon02493Ай бұрын
  • I am glad to hear this. In the past because of trolls and morons ruining the experience for me with spawn killing and god mode in online has put me off playing online until now.

    @BritishRail60062@BritishRail6006227 күн бұрын
  • The "destroy this guy's cargo to get rewarded" stuff should've been a balanced game aspect where getting griefed would only put a small amount of your hours worth of grinding at risk so that along with the bonus you get for selling your cargo in a public lobby, risking it would be a good incentive for some challenge.

    @nliberty@nlibertyАй бұрын
  • I guess following a random player around and messing with them isn’t allowed anymore

    @ryanholmes7897@ryanholmes7897Ай бұрын
    • The definition of griefing!

      @blacmacca2910@blacmacca2910Ай бұрын
  • Been griefing on GTA since 2014 this won't change a thing

    @Lol-cl2nx@Lol-cl2nxАй бұрын
    • Cool story, bro

      @shanevanholm2684@shanevanholm2684Ай бұрын
    • Loser

      @Hex05@Hex05Ай бұрын
  • Thing that pisses me off is my son and I haven't been allowed to play in the same session for years cause we like screwing around and shooting each other and messing around IN AN INVITE ONLY OR FRIENDS ONLY SESSION WHEN ITS JUST TH 2 OF US.

    @Todd41R@Todd41R5 күн бұрын
  • Had People stalking me and former friends via rockstar social club looking at the crews me and my friends were in to find us in lobbies and reported the person and nothing happened. One rule for one and one for another is rockstars philosophy

    @DrCox222@DrCox222Ай бұрын
  • is border patrol a racist ceo name?

    @YOUR_MYSTERY@YOUR_MYSTERYАй бұрын
    • No cause every country has border authorities

      @xavierhebert116@xavierhebert116Ай бұрын
    • @@xavierhebert116 what if i changed my name to deporter would that make it racist

      @YOUR_MYSTERY@YOUR_MYSTERYАй бұрын
    • ​@@YOUR_MYSTERY mine is melon hunter

      @DELTAF11B@DELTAF11BАй бұрын
    • @@YOUR_MYSTERY it should not be cause it is not a Racist word it does not specify a certain race

      @xavierhebert116@xavierhebert116Ай бұрын
  • Just like they always have, they ain't gonna do ....

    @Aff3ct000@Aff3ct000Ай бұрын
    • of course not. they just announced to change the guidelines. nothing else will happen. they will also dump the voice and chat thing because it will not be bulletproof and this means they woulkd actually have to deal with wrongfully accused people. and rockstar never spend resources to ban some people if they could file a complain.

      @kennythemeat@kennythemeatАй бұрын
  • I was just banned today. I have never motto. I have never done anything sketchy but I kept killing one of my friend and now I can’t access the game and my characters are reset. Do you have anything I could do or if this can be reversed

    @cwfolger@cwfolger28 күн бұрын
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