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Old man here….was a service tech for Sears 1967-78 . We had saddle designed units for both slider and double hung windows. Everything old is new again. New units are much more efficient , quieter and LESS expensive. Just a thought ….the condenser is not protected by the filter, I think that the slinging of the evaporator condensate helps keep it clean, but it will plug up eventually.
The double hung split was about twice as expensive if I recall Dad passing it by. The integrated refrigerator box was likely cheaper to build...but I wish we had those instead of the monster box.
Did kenmore coldspot make anything like that?
@@VannBergHVAC yup… cold spot , made by whirlpool. They were heavy , noisy mothers but they worked just fine. As noted, they offered both styles , around here ( Detroit) they were mostly for slider type windows, but I seem to remember double hung style as well. All were R-12 systems.new units are very quiet and efficient and much cheaper ( in constant dollars)
@@djsandvig1 I have a 1968 Philco-Ford in my apartment. 9,000 BTU at 12AMPS. Pulls a lot of power but compressor cycle times are much shorter due to a colder refrigerant and higher CFM. It doesn’t cost that much to run, and I’d much prefer to not buy a new one every few years. Cool to hear that you worked for them!
My late Grandfather worked for them for 30 years doing the same thing.
I think keeping bugs out is much more important than water sounds, so give me all the foam!
If you’re in the south, I’d say those black foam pieces aren’t to prevent hearing a splashing sound, but rather to prevent wasps from crawling up and getting in your room.
Amen.
You are correct. 😊
100% them critters of all kinds
And bats.
that would be anywhere... you are leaking cold air out, and allowing bugs in.
1 advice. Put rubber pad beneath the middle section. It will not only insulate but stop the vibrations as well.
I'm pretty sure that benight is the wrong word because it makes absolutely no sense what you wrote here.
@@kiillabytezyou can’t figure out they meant beneath? Lol
@@donut3946 I knew they meant. It's what they wrote. Effective communication is key.
@@kiillabytez oh, so you’re just here for drama. Lol, at least you’re not taking it out on the dog.
@@donut3946 Depends on what kind of dog you have and if it's noisy at night or not!
I bought one designed from Midea like that 1 1/2 years ago and was a fantastic design . You keep the compressor outside and fan inside . Window shuts almost all the way to just allow transfer of air . Much better than having a wide open window and trying to use those dividers to seal the air gap . Plus soo much quieter .
The compressor is always “outside”
Yeah buddy, I got 2 of them. One in the living room, one in the bedroom, fantastic.
How is the cleaning/maintenance for it? Can it be easily detached?
The Midea units were kind of a pain in the butt to seal up all the cracks and crevices allowing outside air in. Other than that it's actually weird because you mount the bracket on the window sill then you just set the window unit on top of it and it will sit there with the window open. Also they are inverter technology which is different from a standard unit because the compressor will ramp up and down based on the load where a normal unit turns on and off but never actually works more or less harder which means most of the time if you set it and forget it, it's going to run at a lower algorithm which means the unit will be quieter and consume less energy. As an HVAC installer and service tech for 25 years we recently had a customer that wanted two of these window units in their house so we put them in for him. We actually put in a lot of inverter technology units on a whole house level with ductwork in a full size split system and it is the future of heating and cooling homes in the United States. The rest of the world has had this technology for decades but here in the good old USA we are playing catch up on this technology.
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Good video, I'm retired HVAC business owner, in a wheelchair now. got a laugh awhile ago, I changed my filter yesterday on my central system, my wheelchair elevates and I was able to reach to two top screws on the panel. I fell asleep in my wheelchair last night, it tilts, reclines, legs raise, kind of like a rolling recliner. Well, I went to the bathroom earlier, I still had the cargo shorts on because I hadn't had my shower yet because the nurse comes so early, but I thought, what on earth is in my front pockets. A nut driver in each pocket from the filter change 😂, they're both back in my tool belt and my shorts don't feel so tight now.🤣
lol, good to hear you're still doing your own work and not paying someone else.
LOL! Great story with the nut driver in the shorts.... For the nuts... Sorry to hear you're in a wheelchair. Hope you're doing well. I'm an Industrial Ventilation guy. I do local exhaust ventilation, air pollution control, that sorta things for factories. ACGIH member. The way I see it, for some states, or even countries, it's illegal to install AC (or anything) through existing windows without approval from local authority. Fire code. Windows are not only used for natural ventilation but also as secondary means of egress during a fire. Cheers from Malaysia!!!
They DID! I have a 1948 Gibson 8000 BTU window A/C with "split-design" that weighs just over 500 pounds. It was my late brother-in-law's and he gave it to me to put in m home workshop. It STILL works fine as quiet as a church-mouse, but the fan doesn't "blow much air", which was NORMAL until the late 60's. It's gold with the four round vents on the front in cream-colored plastic. It's a 120 volt, "12 amp" unit, that draws less than 600 watts running by my Kill-Er-Watt meter. If I want the shop cooled, I turn the unit on 24-30 hours BEFORE I want to work in there-just like a 1956 Fedders or Amana or Friedrich (the first we had in my parent's house). It doesn't use Freon-it uses anhydrous ammonia for refrigerant!
Please post pics of this. Thanking you in advance
"New" models aren't meant to be better we are going backwards remember 😂😂😂
@@artgrathartgrath3451 New versions might be as much as 3% more efficient! Also they have no user-servicable parts so if one piece of solder fails you have to buy a whole new one! That's way better (for the comapnies that sell them)!
They've got really good design ones in the Philippines.
so your unit uses 5 amps
The condensate from inside is supposed to be picked up by the condenser fan and discharged through the condenser coil. This increases the efficiency on the really hot days.
I think they started doing that so you don't have to drain the condensation from inside
The fan blade spinning fast and constantly hitting a lot water like during rains or high humidity may eventually wear out the fan motor prematurely (aside from the loud splashing noise). He just adjusted the angle so as to reduce the water level inside
@@buffdelcampo Yeah I get that, I just don't think it was originally intended as an efficiency thing, nice side benefit though
@@buffdelcampo It is brilliant, it was originally designed to move the condensation outside so you don't have to hook up a drain, cooling the condenser is a nice side benefit
@@buffdelcampo I bought a couple of these when the design was newer, that was a the main selling feature, no drain required, no mention of efficiency. How old are you? You seem very immature, past your bedtime maybe
Panasonic made a similar unit in Malaysia years ago with the opposite design - most of it was hanging outside. It cost over twice as much as a regular window air conditioner unit but it was extemely quiet. It was mounted in a window next to a TV running at low volume and the only way you could tell it was on was the cool breeze. Wish I had kept it.
How to mount it on windows that slide to side? Because I know most of the windows in Malaysia is one with side sliding windows instead of slide to the top one like in the video.
I believe the Panasonic model was also a heat pump
Those Panasonics are all over the caribbean resorts. Samsungs, too.
I remember that one. We tried to buy it to cool the bedroom in our new house but couldn’t afford it since we had a 10.5% 30 year mortgage from Chemical Bank at the time (yes that’s what the rate was in 1988). We got a cheaper window A/C instead. And refinanced when the rates dropped. I now have mini-splits.
That was called the Quasar ‘Cool Look’
I would put a block of wood of some sort between the vinyl siding and the screw out knobs. Those small round knobs could damage that siding I would think. That stuff gets brittle over the years.
I believe the round knobs would damage vinyl siding. I was moping my siding and punctured a dime size hole in the siding. There was any real force on the siding.
Properly installed siding should be on 2x1" runners to provide ventilation and drainage behind it and the vapor barrier so the siding doesn't warp from overheating or trap moisture that could cause mould and rot issues. Those standoffs will eventually rip through the siding without a buffer layer to spread the force across a larger area.
I would use a piece of some waterproof or water-resistant material instead of wood. The wood, even pressure-treated, can rot or provide habitat for insects or other undesirable critters.
I have one as it is nice, but it actually takes up more room than an actual window unit and it also uses more energy. This thing requires extra maintenance as you got to check two air filters and one water pump filter to make sure it stays clean so your pump doesn't go out as you will have a house full of water. It is very quiet and it definitely blows some cold air out of it and I love the dehumidifier mode in it. Definitely gives me better access to my window, but you have to sacrifice some space inside and outside.
Not going to lie this was the most honest first impressions review that made me feel you was true to your words and opinions on this AC. I appreciate that about you. Thank you for not trying to push it for us to buy.
Back in the day I mounted a window ac under a van and moved the evap coil under the bed in the van with a small 110 blower. Moved the controls up to the wall in the van so the thermostat would work. Worked like a boss.
And? How does that relate?
@@The_Usual_Mechanic well it kept me and your mom from sweating.... so....
@@cwb43068 you can have her. You really thought that would have an affect? Haha you immature fool!
FANTASTIC for rooms with only one window! I prefer only using air conditioning if absolutely necessary, otherwise I prefer opening the window. This design allows you to open the window and put a fan in without removing the air conditioner. I always hated taking the AC out of the window and putting it back in several times a week.
In our old apt I made a screen above the ac, and got a piece of plexiglass to create a window for it.. so I didn't need to block the window. I didn't need to use the hydro to have a breeze blowing through, just opened the top of the ac unit. I know acs have a fan only feature. esp helpful where we lived we only needed ac for a few days in the summer.
@@minimaladjacent Do you live in Manitoba... for sure Canada! HYDRO! lol
@@TheCrusades1099 Ontario. purposely said hydro instead of electricity lol.
This is what i love about youtube. A guy sees a product in a field he likes that he enjoys and he thinks others will, and he makes a video about it. How a many of reviewers got big dude!
Good stuff, HVAC Guy. People are learning so much from your videos, including myself, Thanks.
If he's a real HVAC guy he should have known the fan is supposed to mist water against the condenser to help it condense. So he should not have tilted it toward the house. Also what's the BTU rating?
I looked at this system but ended up getting the Midea smart U shaped window air conditioning units. And I have to say - they are amazing! Simply amazing. We were looking to put in a ductless system and bought these as a stop gap but decided to postpone the big expense. We have a small weird shaped plaster walled 1000sqft home and the small and medium unit is more than enough to cool the house. Forgot and left on the dehumidifier setting for a day - house was freezing like an ice box. Fantastic units. And quiet!
6:23 The water noise is there by design. The fan on the condenser side is designed to splash water on the condenser radiator to increase its efficiency. It also reduces the amount of water that comes out of it.
Yeah, this is a great idea. I wish we'd had this when I had to depend on window units in my first home. But I would make one suggestion, at 3:27 in the video where you're putting that black foam on the inside gap, may I suggest you put it on the outside in the gap between the windows to keep insects from coming in and building in that gap created by the upper and lower window.
10% for the big guy for helping advertising
This is one of those "why wasn't this done before" product designs. When I've installed window shakers in the past, I've often had to do so in desperation, and accidentally discarded the included foam inserts. I end up using several improvised materials - plastic grocery bags, cat fur, etc. to fill the gaps...anything seems to work when you're too hot!
Cat fur 😆
If you send an email to GE, they will mail you the insulation foam free of charge.
I don't think general electric's products we'll I'll do I'll do cat fur! @hunter19884
You stole ur kitty's hair? What is ur kitty gonna do to stay warm now?
Agreed. Mickey mouse-ing stuff to achieve your objective works..most of the time.
Water splashing is supposed to happen, helps cool/clean coils.
Hearing water sloshing on the condenser is a good thing. you want that. That is cooling off your condenser by a part called a Slinger. It helps your AC unit run cooler.
For security, checking for clearance in certain window frames, you might consider drilling holes into the frame to allow a screw or larger diameter nail (loose fit) to be installed just about where the window stops. A double headed nail or just drilling the hole deep enough so 1/2" sticks out to stop frame rise. You can also use 1/4" or 1/2" lathe in the frame track cut to length. This can even be use with double velcro to make removal easy. Just paint the new wood and secure. This removes the capability for a bad guy to open the window and remove the unit for entry.
This is an idea that is as brilliant as it was overdue! It is perhaps the best thing for those who really have no need for central air conditioning!
This is an exciting design. I've been looking at midea brand. I'm glad to see ge copy the concept. I could envision many applications where several of these units could replace the need for central ac allowing owners to only cool one or two rooms in the house.
Just note that GE Appliances is a brand name of Haier (#3 largest Chinese A/C maker, Midea is #2).
We got a Midea unit and love it. This is a little nicer, I think, because ours is a reverse saddle, so window goes down into conditioner and still blocks view more.
I got the midea on 12000 btu about 3 years ago am sure it was cheaper than this one
Oh Lord don't buy a GE!
U gonna want kitchen eating area living room bathroom and 1-3 bedrms cooled Just having 1 room cool is miserable Trying to cook & eat in 90 degree kitchen is horrific
I bought a saddle-type Kenmore unit from Sears in the late eighties, retired it about ten years later when we went to central air. Several trees have either fallen or been taken down since the central switch, so Ive added a couple of Midea U-shaped 8000 BTU units (SEER 16.0) which allows me to keep the central set at a higher temp and I can zone cooling to the occupied spaces.
I bought one by Midea with a similar design about 6 months ago. It's the best window unit I have ever used. It's super quiet and cools a really large area.
You can get units like these which are actually heat pumps, and not just A/C units. So, they can do both heating and cooling, and are more efficient than units that can only do A/C.
They also make saddle types that are under 1 inch high, with only the freon pipes and the power lines easily fitting within that one inch
bought the 6100 a couple weeks ago and installed it. Very nice. I'm going to use a dap of peelable caul on the very small gaps.
Love mine! Installed a week or two ago (got the strongest 12,200 BTU unit rated for 20’ x 27’ space). Easily chills my entire downstairs condo. And I mean frigid! Even on an 87F day like today. I’m confident this will easily see me through this southeast Virginia summer no problem. But definitely READ THE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS(or follow the brief KZhead video). I slowpoked it and installed by myself in under an hour. More like 30 mins or less in total.
So what brand dud you purchase? And why does it take 30 minutes to setup?
Midea's U-shaped window unit has been out for years and was awesome but the saddle style is a step up.
You gotta check out the unit from Gradient. Same saddle design, but it’s a full on heat pump, so it’ll heat as well as cool. Pretty pricey right now, but if you’re heating with oil or electric resistance and aren’t able to install other heat pumps it will eventually save you more than it costs.
Yes! A reversing switch for heat is ideal for me.
You can get a reg window unit ac/heat for $600.
Just flip it around and install it backwards during heating season. 😊
Do you need a special outlet?
That's what i need. I had a portable heat pump/a/c unit. Heater worked good, except for the 0 degree temps for a week. Turned on the a/c, and leaked at bottom like a sieve. Really ticked about that. I wondered if there was a window unit design.
What a nice guy! Thanks! And all your great subscribers leaving comments is fantastic too!
The fan is using the water to cool the ?heat exchanger?(external radiator). Its an efficiency design in window units for many years now.
Always wondered what the splashing water sound was.
Yeah I kind of liked that sound TBH. I had a window unit in Hawaii made by Panasonic that worked like that. Worked really well.
'Slinger fan"
The outside fan is supposed to pick up the condensate water and fling it on the outside (hot) coil to increase efficiency as the evaporation of the water cools the hot side (and the evaporation energy closely matches the condensation energy that was used on the inside) Directing the water away from that area will reduce the efficiency by about 6%. I'm surprised an HVAC guy would not realize that.
Those Happy Gilmore visits will go much smoother. "Mister! Mister! AAAAAAGGGGHH!"
I'm with you brother, I've installed 100's of the regular "window shakers" and always wondered why no one designed a saddle unit like this. Way to go GE.
Good find. Wish I had this back in my younger window shaker days.
The EER / SEER rating (Energy efficiency rating) is 11.5 , which I didn't see mentioned anywhere. This is really not great if you plan on running this a lot. If you think you'll be running your AC unit a whole lot, i'd recommend getting a VRF mini split heat pump unit instead, not only is it much more energy efficient (close to 2x more efficient than this) but you can also use it to make heat in the winter. Something to consider when looking at these.
Mini splits are inherently more efficient but much more expensive to buy and install. For window AC units 11.5 isn't terrible. You really have to compare it to other AC units not mini splits.
@@theripper121right like those criminally inefficient Portable ACs that the wh*te girls love lately... FIVE POINT SEVEN SEER. how can that be legal. Boggles the mind.
I'm with you. The mini splits are almost 2x as efficient for almost the same price. They're also relatively easy to install.
My Midea is 16 seer. 12k btu at Costco for 350.00.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC That is really in expensive and quite a bit easier to install than the 28seer Senville mini I just installed. It was 1k.
Smart, just yesterday I saw an upstairs window unit supported in place by a 2x4, so yes, this design was a long time coming.
You should walk NY City, you'll see precariously perched BIG window a/c's 10, 15, 20 or more floors up above the sidewalk. Many look like they are probably 25,000 BTU sized units that would easily weigh close to 75 or more pounds, just held up by the top window sash pushing down on it and maybe a little block of wood on top of the outside window sill for the thing to rest on! people have NO clue! I used to cast architectural sculptures, one woman wanted to buy several keystones to attach over the windows on her brick townhouse, I asked how she planned to secure them to the brick, she wrote back that she planned to use "liquid nails" !!!! these were 30 pound concrete sculptures and the woman had a 2 or 3 story townhouse with a public sidewalk around it, and she was going to basically use a product meant for holding thin, lightweight interior panelling on walls- to permanently secure 30 pound concrete sculptures 2-3 floors above a public sidewalk!! I said NO WAY, no sale! these had to be embedded INTO the brick wall by cutting brickwork, done by a contractor, and mortared in, not "glued" to the surface like she planned!
When I used to rent, I made a wood frame to hold the unit while also sitting flush against the window pane. I painted the wood white to match the walls and blinds. Pretty ingenious if I do say so myself.
It appears to be similar to a mini split unit! I love how it gives us more visibility!
Awesome, this is exactly what we need for our sun room. We have a roll out type heat/AC unit and it just doesn't cut it. Every time you open the door to go outside we loose the cold air, just wish it had heat to.
Portable ACs are so criminally inefficient they should be illegal.
Many units are designed for the outside condenser fan to sling the water at the condenser coil. This increases the efficiency because you get the additional evaporative cooling on that coil. Only downside is the noise of the water on the fan. Basically your little “fix” is likely costing you efficiency.
Great in theory but it gets dirty
It has been thought of before, Westinghouse had an air conditioner like that in the late 60s
I had one
Yeah pretty old design. There was one in the last 5 years on Amazon made by Midea that was pretty popular.
Had one in the early 1970's. The saddle part was even thinner than this one. Of course, no fancy electronics back then but it worked!
@@wired-up I have an aversion for things that require an app to run them and is a big no-no for me.
Yeah, this isn't anything new. There have been problem of condensate dripping out onto the floor.
I picke up a couple of he Media U shaped units last year and they work great. I was thinking that this saddle design would be even better, but this is the first one I've seen.
Personally would go with the Midea line of smart U shaped ACs. They’ve been around for quite some time and work incredibly well.
They do but this shape may fit others needs. I have several mideas and really like them.
Midea has lots of bad reviews.
I need this! I have a portable roll around type that I pull out whenever hurricanes kill the power here in Florida (often in my area) but I have to deal with the condensation hoses emptying into buckets every few hours…a pain in the butt! I’m heading to Lowe’s as they have them in stock…plug directly into my generator and I’m set! Thank you for the video!
Nice AC if you live away from very humid conditions / hurricane coast. Not sure it would help us here but, it's nice little machine.
or a jump start unit with a inverter
They make portables that don't require a condensate line just so you know. I've got one in my office.
@@shashakeeleh5468 Thank you…imagree. …However,,flor me this is just for emergencies…I have central AC - but when the hurricanes knock out my power for 3-5 days it will work to keep my bedroom cool. I have a portable (not window unit) AC and a dehumidifier that I power with my portable Generac during power loss…but they are a royal pain because I’m constantly dumping buckets of water. This little unit will put the water right into my landscaping outside my window AND has a dehumidifier (dry function).
@@Samlol23_drrich Thank you! …unfortunately when my power is out during hurricanes and it’s 95-100F the humidity in the house is nearly 100% for anywhere from 3 to 5 days until they restore power. Sadly, in those conditions a condensation line is critical. I’m dumping a small 2 gal pail every 2 hours during the hottest part of the day while it’s running. But that unit you mention would be handy to have in my home to compliment my central AC during the hottest summer months here. 😎
The soft foam strip is there to inhibit air exchange through the gap between the window sashes, not intended just to isolate outside noise.
we have had ours since last year, it gets cold and its very quiet even on high. love the app for it and it wasnt too hard to install at all. only negative i could see someone having was and is needing to drain it the plug is inside near the bottom i mean all you need is a bowl or cup but yeah some needle nose plyers help pull the plug after unscrewing the cap.
There is one disadvantage with this type of design: if your AC starts leaking, and it is the old design, you can tip it so it leans outward, so that all of the water runs out of the house. With this kind of unit, you can't lean it outward if it starts leaking.
It's 3" away from the house, even if it leaks that doesn't appear to be an issue.
The Midea U-shaped ac allows you to tilt for this reason.
You might have missed the end, he mentions adjusting the screws outside to do just that.
All 3 of you missed how the condensate is moved from the inside portion of the unit to the outside. There’s a pump as the OP mentioned. If that pump fails or the hose gets clogged, your condensate leaks on your interior floor.
@@hadtocheathimtobeathim6549thanks for your comment - as a very old HVAC guy - this was my first question when I saw this vid on my feed. I'll have to wait and see reliability reports before I install one over my oak floors :) but I like the extra view through the window. Q. Do you know is the condensate line designed to be cleared? I imagine homes with pets, or a lot of traffic might increase the chance of a restrictive clog in the line. I've worked on many commercial and industrial sized systems that clogged even when filters were changed quarterly Cheers
The gray foam is for insects entry....that exists between the double hung while open...
I like this unit profile style. I saw a prepper using this type of unit last year or so. Overall, all of these window AC units seem to have the water splashing going on. This does make the unit rust out within a couple of years in my area...
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
At first when you mentioned the sound of condensor fan slinging water OUTSIDE, that they might have used the "cold water slinging up on the condensor method" that I have seen/heard in motel "through the wall units" but realized they couldn't have without putting the evaporator outside in this saddle design, and ducting the cold air inside, which would be ineffiicent since it's hot outside. So, when you mentioned the condensate pump, I realized the evaporator must be on the inside. I think that condensate pump could be a problem point for this design. I'd probably go with a traditional type unit where condensate drains outside using gravity with less complications. This is an interesting invention though.
Oh, yeah, you’re right,I didn’t think about that. This design does require an additional pump, albeit we’re not talking a complicated pump. Hopefully they also have an overflow sensor in the inside section or things could get messy if the pump stops working. So, we’re talking about two additional parts which although aren’t particularly expensive, could break down (especially the pump due to the moving parts).
Midea has had a model like this for a long time now but it’s inverted in that the window slides into the unit instead. This one seems much easier to install though.
Yeah I think I like this design better than modes as far how it sits in the window.
The U shaped Midea drains outside reliably by gravity. The inverted U design of the GE requires a pump to push the water from the indoor evaporator tray up and over the window sill. When the pump fails or clogs, the water will leak down the floor!
@@dtn2490 Sadly the smallest the Midea comes in is a 8000btu. The GE can be gotten as small as 6100btu so for super small rooms, say like a 10X10 the GE offers a more efficient option although the price of GE 6100 and the Midea 8000 are similar.
@@dtn2490 yeah good point.
@@dtn2490 The media U units don't have a drain and many people report the unit will be ripe with mold very quickly
I bought the Soleus brand over 5 years ago because the windows in our bedroom were too small for a regular unit. It cools really well in the summer. I had to use a lot of rope caulk to fill any small gaps or holes because all types of insects were getting inside the bedroom. It's not as quiet as this GE but it works well enough.
I got similar saddle style units 2-3 years back for my bedroom and office. If I have to pickup another I may give that one a shot.
Might be relevant for folks to know (because I find many have no idea), “GE” hasn’t been the old GE in many years… This morning, General Electric announced that it agreed to sell its appliance division to the Haier Group for $5.4 billion, putting one of America's best-known brands in the hands of one of China's largest companies. - Jan 15, 2016
"Brands" are no longer relevant these days anyway, now mega corporations buy out different "brands" and they are all manufactured by the same factory in china, with the different "brand" labels and colors slapped on them. I see it all the time in power and hand tools, black and decker, dewalt, bosch, ryobi, milwaukee, craftsman, makita, ridgid, basically you do some research and you learn one big company bought out the others. Sears sold off their craftsman tool line brand to black and decker and dewalt tools are part of black and decker too, and made in china. Techtronic Industries, a Hong Kong-based company owns milwaukee tools and ryobi now, emerson electric owns ridgid tools. KKR, an investment firm, purchased Hitachi Power Tools and Metabo in 2017. Hitachi Power Tools changed their name to Metabo HPT in 2018. And then stanley-black and decker owns all of these "brands" now; SBD brands include: Black + Decker Bostitch Craftsman DeWalt Emglo Excel Industries Hustler Turf Equipment Big Dog Mower Co. Irwin Lenox Lista Mac Tools MTD Products Cub Cadet Troy-Bilt (in the Americas) Robomow WOLF-Garten Rover (in the Pacific) Remington LLC (Power Tools) Yard Machines MTD Genuine Parts Porter-Cable Powers Fasteners Proto Sidchrome Stanley USAG Vidmar
Yeah Original GE would've never designed this because when you have problems with the condensate pump, it will leak. WHEn part of the installation materials is pure Styrofoam That should tell you something.
That raises the question does the wifi app require connection to a server to work? If it does it's possible this AC could be bricked at anytime the company decides to do it.
@@joedirt1965You realize they can do that without an app?
I noticed on the Amazon listing that it is a "Frequently returned item", red flag for sure.
The stainless steel nuts on the feet that press against the siding should be threaded back to the side of the unit to prevent the vibration from loosening them.
Bought one of these and two of the midea units last summer. I had one of the floor units with a hose that did basically nothing but pull in the hot air from the rest of the apt. Got a few of these and once they get to temperature, they barely even run! Not to mention that they're inverter units so they have more options other than full on or full off.
You are doing a great service highlighting this unit- youre right. I've never seen anything like it and it should have been invented sooner. Wonder if I can install it sideways in my casement window........(that part is a joke)
If I'm not mistaken, Panasonic first introduced the low profile window air conditioner many years ago.
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You are correct, I seen these types of AC units for many years.
yup I have one... I love it. can only get the shitty same designed ones. ours is about 20 something yrs old still going strong. its my fav.
Midea did it years ago as well.
So it would need a pump to get rid of the condensation? The splashing is the condensation being slung over the condenser via the fan.
And it's designed to splash that water to cool the components for better efficiency.
I had that style window unit 35 years ago. It nice to see that they are making them again. I don't like big brother knowing where I keep my AC set.
Just wanted to drop a note and say thanks for your How To video on cleaning the outside AC unit. Very helpful . I went ahead and bought some filters from the website you recommend in the description. They should arrive tomorrow. 🙏
Thanks so much I’m happy it helped you out!
Most HOAs don't allow window ACs especially street view facing. Check with them first. We have a regular window unit for emergency backup in the event main AC goes down. Used it in bedroom window a few times over the years. Fortunately back of house so no Karen's reported us. One thing to add, I found out after installing new Anderson windows if you drill any holes anywhere in sash it voids your window warranty. And if you have old vinyl siding it can get brittle so be careful when you tighten those bottom feet, it can easily crack the brittle siding.
Thanks for the information, sorry you have to deal with a HOA.
I can’t wait till they make a vertical for sliding windows side to side I don’t have up and down windows
Oh ya that is really cool. I thought it was a combo swamp/AC unit....I was typing out the fallacy of blowing wet air over AC coils...haha Now all it needs is a set of heating coils. Would make it an all in one solution for apartments.
This is probably one of the best window A/C units you can get, but it's still very worth saving a little more for a mini split heat pump. They are more efficient, have no window requirements, much more quiet and able to cool an entire house vs a room. And they also can throw heat if needed.
Window units with MORE ability to seal the upper and lower sashes are much more efficient.
It's hard to say, as air quality allowing fresh air in is mandated for houses; for dryers, bathroom and stove exhausts, and gas furnaces needing fresh incoming air to replace their exhausted air. Without an intake, when you operate exhausting fans you create a vacuum and could draw back down the chimney into the living space the gas fumes. It's also important to have intake fresh air to allow fans to do their job of for exhausting humidity, and stale, VOC-laden, poison air. Regardless if you have a Heat Recovery Ventilator, and open window, or simple cracks- you will need fresh air and be cracking a window to get it. This is something older units provided for by an outdoor mix air vent lever, but which newer ones removed. People didn't understand how to use them effectively and left them wide open all the time, complaining about efficiency when they let in too much of the extreme temperature outside air, in both winter and summer. I used to be a fascist winterizer. Now understanding how the building envelope and how code addresses health and mould, and investigating HRVs. which can exchange multiple air changes per hour, driving up your heating/cooling bill, I stopped sweating the small stuff and now let my house, and the occupants breathe, and pay less than for a, HRV. Insects could be an issue, or car fumes; plus noise comes in through cracks. And privacy goes right out the window through cracks.
MIDEA is coming out with a Heatpump like that
It's already out I believe.
I have a similar AC. Got it last year and it works great.
About to use our three units for a third season and they are still humming quietly. Can absolutely recommend these.
Loved it until I heard Alexa. Do they have a non smart version?
You don’t have to use that feature. You can just use the app. That’s what I did
It will never be smart if you don't give it your WiFi Password!
It's not that nobody thought of it before. The problem is getting the patents to make the idea worth investing time into. I have tons of ideas like this, and no clue how to patent them. And when I tell people my ideas, they find out how to profit off it without kicking back anything to me. I even know how to make the unit shown in this video far more efficient. I think what I need to do is befriend some lawyers.
Before you tell anyone your idea, write it down and send yourself a certified letter from the post office!! It will come in handy when you take them to court.
I know what you mean. Many years ago I had this idea of creating a sleek hand held electronic camera, communication and information retrieval device, then Apple stole my idea!
TL;DR: Never tell anyone about an idea you have if you think it has potential to be lucrative and/or disruptive in a certain market and create paradigm shifts. Everyone is trustworthy until enough dollar signs are at stake. My late father was a hobbiest inventor in his free time and a residential general contractor by trade. He taught me everything I know. With several patents on various of his inventions over the years, the one lesson he'd always remind me is to NEVER tell anyone about an idea you have. Not friends, relatives or even immediate family members. All it takes for someone to take advantage of your trust is you having a very lucrative idea and giving them the opportunity to legally make it theirs. One invention of his that he never patented and made him much more protective of his ideas and prototypes was a ultrasonic backup system for his work van that would guage distance to an object via ultrasound and it would beep audibly with increasing frequency based on how close it was, with a slightly different pitch for right vs left. He installed this without ever patenting it and a few years later Ford came out with something very similar. This was before we had reverse cameras. It could just be coincidence but the idea was still obviously worth pursuing and taught him a valuable lesson.
I had an old window AC unit and it ripped out and feel to the ground from a second story window into a parking lot. It was quite the fall, but it still worked even after crashing
Insane that it took so long for the saddle design to come to market considering how long window air conditioners have been a thing. I remember being so nervous around my unit because one good bump it's dropping and smashing a car! Good to know this tech exists if I ever find myself in the market for one again.
Well it will take away the entertaining value of watching Kramer on Seinfeld try to grab a window AC as its falls out of the window onto a busy NY City street hitting a dog. Excellent design idea.
They should have added a bit of protection to the condenser fins - I can see people damaging the condenser fins if in reach. Kids will be particularly attracted as they can draw pictures in the foil fins... I would draw a FJB.
Hahahaha…love how you worked the FJB in 😂😂😂😂
Thumbs up for the FJB reference.
Thanks for laugh.
Let’s go Brandon!!!
Come on man! Is that you Corn Pop?
Thanks for the information - I wasn't aware these existed. For any permanent installation I'd probably go for a mini-split as they are more efficient than this unit and look more integrated into the room space. However, for temporary or transient use, these are a great solution at a great price.
Makes me wish I could buy stock in GE just for that one product. What a great idea. Even though I have no need for a window unit, I wish this idea was around at times in my life when I did need to use one.
I have a better design. The inside part converts into an ice maker and water cooler while the ouside has an built in air fryer so you can open the window and eat your dinosaur chicken nuggets without heating up the house and then enjoy your cold beverage.
There are 2 filters on these, the 2nd filter can be seen by the plug at 7:35 of the video (small tab just under the plug connection). You can also collect very clean distilled water inside rather than drain it outside. It is great for houseplants that hate chlorine treated tap water.
I bought an inverted unit last year from Midea. I love it.
I absolutely LOVE your innovative window AC. Thanks for making this video… I have to get one, maybe two !!
If you do, make sure and use my Amazon link on the video description! Cheers
Oh Boy, WHAT A FIND for my situation!!!!!! Thanks.
This is great. We just had a fire at our house and we'll be getting new windows a standard window AC would void the warranty but I'm sure this would work perfectly and not void the warranty.
Definitely worth looking into. It's cheaper than going with a Mitsubishi split air system that goes for $4000 to $6000. Here in the northeast, the problem I have is storing these window units over the winter. This unit looks quite large when you factor in the gap in the saddle.
Nice. So it's basically a mini-split set up in a window saddle configuration. Can't think of anything besides power and freon lines going through the saddle portion. Clever and gives a good middle ground between a regular window unit and a mini-split.
The splashing is there to bring the SEER rating up a little due to the temperature reduction in the metal. Since heat travels through metal so easily, any temperature reduction outside is going to effect the inside results. Thankfully, you managed to get rid of the annoying sound at the cost of using more electricity. It's a good thing that people can turn to you for guidance.
That is a really cool design... no pun intended. This would a perfect replacement for the old and heavy window units that were bought for the house more than 10 years ago. I like the fact that this design uses the walls of the house for support instead of the window frame like traditional AC units do.
Thanks for all the help! Very nice all around.
I have a saddle window AC and LOVE it! It’s so much better than a full window unit.
I was looking at these for my shop a couple of years ago but they had terrible reviews on reliability. They may have improved them since then. But I went with a split unit instead and love it.
Midea has had this design for years now. The compressor noise is almost inaudible inside the house. The Midea units are extremely quiet in "low" mode but make quite a whooshing noise on "high."
Being that my house was built in 59, when it was HVAC converted, they put the HVAC on one far end of the house, so I have a practically dead air room 65-70 feet from the unit. I’d seriously considered one of these for that room.
had a soleus brand that worked AMAZING, then the drain hose from the from to the front drain tray to the condenser got moldy and clogged up..Would run for 5-10 minutes then fill with water and error out . Had to pull the drain plug and use a 5 gallon bucket..
The windows I have all slide from the side and making this have a huge gap from above. Most likely people will have to cut out a board to size and hook it in. This might not be the best for those situations, but this is a nice little idea from GE!