DIY Rally Skid Plate - Is it Worth It?
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The coolest thing about rally cars is that they can drive both on and off road, and off road is where the fun really lives. Sliding and jumping things is probably 99% the reason we decided to build our own BMW. However, the dark side of driving in the dirt is that there are bound to be some rocks looking to yeet the underside of your car … mainly the oil pan or your gas tank. Nothing would suck more than being stranded in the desert because Mr. Dwayne the Rock smashed into your car, SO we decided to make our own skid plates. Let’s hope they work. Stop reading this, go watch the vid!
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I really hope they do a Donut livery for this later, it'd look sick with a yellow and black rally style wrap
defenitly Donut livery, great idea Rat
Don't do it, don't get my hopes up
A wing. It needs a wing!
What with the number 69 on the side that would probably be great considering someone allready drew it in the dust I think it's on the back I guess it would be rude not to I guess aslo imagine on a rally stage you overtake because someone makes a mistake it's a donut car you just have donut for a livery it's a multipurpose livery to show donut as a livery and to call people behind you a donut it works with an unknown meaning but it cant get banned as it's the name of the people who made it well who they work for
With some subtle pink features!
Nolan and Aaron: "We just don't have time to make a skid plate." Zach: "Hold my hair..."
LMFAO YESSS
@@Dakingred dude, as someone who's rolled his luxurious locks in a creeper wheel more than once, I literally feel his pain. 🤣
Let's hope he never cuts that hair!
i love how zach doesn't try hard to be entertaining and funny, just simply be himself and give us the content and knowledge that we actually needed. moneypit should be twice a week over other stuff.
Moneypit and hi-low are gold
it'll be really hard to do considering shipping and modifying need a lot of time.
@@audimalvin5763 and, hence it’s name, it’s expensive
@@5cupsofcoffee104 I don't think price would effect schedule that much
He’s funny but yeah I like how he’s straight forward and to the point
PRO TIP: add an access hole to get to your drain plug, maybe two if you need another for the oil filter that way you aren’t removing the whole thing every time.
You need to get an oil extractor and never touch the oil drain plug again! Its a game changer.
PRO TIP: make the skid plate bolt on so that it is removable, solving this problem and letting them remove it to clear out debris from their offroading adventures at the same time. Oh wait...
This is nothing compared the skid plates on new cars.
I forget which car but someone made a plastic skid plate with no access hole and ~18 bolts to remove. Fuck I hated that when I was an apprentice, telling the boss "hey, I am going to need way longer to finish this oil change, I have to try to make this fucking skid plate line up in like 18 different places.
He would just need the one for the drain, since the oil filter is on top. I think that is how it is for this generation BMW. What I would do is put to threaded inserts and make a slightly larger access hole so when you do drain the oil it doesn’t splash onto your skid plate
Remember kids, Dwayne is headed straight for your oil pans.
I'd buy a donut brand Dwayne rock. Combo pet and paper weight.
@@jaydub8576 I need to make a little sticker sheet with a bunch of little copies of his face to put over any rock chips on my hood.
Dwayne vs One Grit, who's the better rock...?
you mean the wok
@Brandon Fischer omg bro 🤣😅
Oh cool, it's actually a skid plate and not an exhaust this time!
i don’t get it
@@DWSF989 If you had notifications on when they did the exhaust video, you would have noticed they had "Skid plate" in the title before they fixed it.
@@LukeDude759 ohhhhhh thanks man
Mine center muffler has over 30-50 dents after work with different route to home. Idc if it fell off and wake up neighbor in 3am.
@@technocody9296 what
Zach Jobe: * Explains the process to install a skid plate * Me: * Just staring back into those blue eyes * Uh huh, yeah
he installed a skid plate?
@@ac130yap 🤣🤣
hes so dreamy tbh
Gay?
@@felixweimann5846 im a chair
For the exposed bolts you should look into getting rally washers. They are washers that have a flange designed to help a rock slide over the bolt and not shear it.
This
This is a good tip
Or just countersink the holes and get matching machine screws
Also use some damn loctite bro.
@@engineerisengihere44 loctite won’t protect the head from shearing off stoopid ass😆 counterskining could work but would weaken the hole and countersunk bolts aren’t as strong
Probably will never be able to afford to do all of this myself but man I love watching Zach work on cars!
I have done this... and still couldnt afford it then haha
Aluminum panel isn’t too expensive but I don’t know about all of the tools though.
@@angelgjr1999 Their tools all in all are really expensive (and that is still ignoring all the space and power needed).
Not to mention, you gotta buy all those tools and fill up the whole garage. Worth the buy if you use the tools regularly. I'm a slouch, so just buy and pay someone for it one time.
get a shit cheap car, a welder and some tools. go to the scrap yard and rip bits off other cars and do all the work yourself. reasearch up to fuck so you don't kill yourself and there you go, all the fun on a budget.
8:32 Not to grumble but I'd recommend a deformable material for the extension struts, as a hard bump there is transferring the force to the rail above. That could be game over.
Exactly what I thought when I saw that.
Jobe make the version 1.1 ^
Thankfully, without cross braces the strut is more likely to collapse, folding towards the rear if any serious hit happened. But yes I agree
I think Jobe himself already knows most of what you guys are talking about and maybe even was thinking about filming it, but the goal is to make easy to understand content that's accessible to complete newbies, which obviously hinders his ability to go fully in depth on all the options and possibilities, but oddly enough he has done so in the past on the miata build ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I thought they were gonna just take the strip of steel and bend it at a 90 or so at each end with a single hole in it. I think that would be enough and it would surely bend first before it bent the frame. No welding required for that too.
The plates turned out nice! I think you forgot major things though when it comes to protection from rocks. One are wheel scrapers to kick out any rocks from the inside of the wheels. Without them, over long distances, the rocks can turn your 1 piece rims into 2 piece. The other is foam underneath the oil pan. While the skid plates do protect it well, if a rock manages to get nudged between the skid plate and oil pan, it'll become a focus point for any forces that hit the skid plate in that area. In that case, it'd actually be better to not have the skid plate. Much like how sand on a beach can make its way into a house, pebbles and small rocks can weasel their way above the skid plate.
I'd add actual rally skid plates have additional reinforcements and mounting points over them, that are supposed to transfer energy if you hit the ground during landing a jump or hitting a really big rock.
Make sure to watch your temp gauge. Adding a skid plate can block air flow exiting from your cooling system causing an over temp issue. Might add some vents to rectify that potential issue.
Some louvers would be nice. A lot of trucks have plates with louvers already built in.
I can already tell, Dwayne is rocking dude
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i agree, he makes my booty tingle
@@CLK944 I don’t understand what these bots are trying to accomplish
@@lesterparker1594 as far as my research has gone, those links lead to those too-good-to-be-true secks dating sites. i guess they wanna increase the traffic on their websites via coomers checking in, or steal their data
@@CLK944 yh
For large cuts of aluminum sheets use a circular saw with a metal blade, I was taught by a 10 year vet of aluminum welding and by far the more easier and cost effective way for cutting the material
A lot of people don't know you can cut aluminum with a circular saw but it's a really great tip.
@@Yoshikaable it really is as I was once in there spot with cutting aluminum and went through a ton of cutting disc's, jig saw and Sawzall blades. Then at my friend's business he cut large amounts of with just the circular saw and doesn't kill the blades.
I’ve had great success using sharks with frickin laser beams
As a posed to circular saws with paper blades
@@brandonsojka6726 metal blade means a blade meant for cutting metal as opposed to a blade for wood. The cutting teeth profile and counts are different
As a tip, when working with CAD (Cardboard Aided Design), when you want to mark out attachment locations. Tape a thumb tack where you want to put your bolt holes. Then when you push the cardboard up it will leave a hole in it. Then you can remove the tack, and use your punch through the hole in the cardboard. This can save you a little time, and/or swiss cheesed cardboard.
be dope if they painted the skid plate so when they got back from testing you can see where it was affected the most
Tip I saw on some other YT channel, , they said to use a wood blade when cutting Aluminium as it clogs up less.
Definitely my favorite show on KZhead or anything else. Thank you for the amazing show Zach!!!
Then you don’t know many shows lol
I just had my whole steam account stolen and nothing can be done about it lost all of my games (over $300) but being able to watch money pit made me feel better thank you
Try contacting steam support directly, it may take a while, but if you can prove it's your account you should be able to get it back. (My friend had his stolen about a year ago)
@@sidschaefer2966 thanks
Honestly, the current Donut Crew is on the same Tier as the OG Top Gear crew. I love the knowledge and content.
Zach and aron,
You dont want a skidplate flush with the oil pan, there is no room for flex from an impact. Stand it off a bit but also dont forget to add foam between the skid plate and the oil pan. If a rock gets between and you bump something its and instant hole the same as if you flush mounted it.
What type of foam could withstand the heat of the oil pan while actually being dense enough to absorb impact? Not sure that is needed. The important part of the skid plate is to prevent an upcoming rock from going above the level of the oil pan and crashing into the front of the oil pan. Instead, the plate makes the dangers pass below the oil pan and glance off.
The same used on engine covers
@@Con2D2 That's sound insulation foam. It would be worthless against an impact. I don't think there are any materials a home mechanic could get their hands on that would work in this application. Have you seen anyone who actually did this? (I'm open to being wrong here)
@Greg Wilson If I understand correctly, the foam would just be to take up the space between the skid plate and the oil pan and make sure no rocks get lodged in there. It wouldn't need to be impact resistant :)
@@kilgoretrout90210 This is correct.
Is it just me or does it feel like Jobe said they were gonna go to the desert “next episode” without actually going to the desert for a few episodes in a row now?😅
Just you.
Lol yeah the desert testing episodes are always so fun, I'm always looking forward to the next one
Hilo did it.
yes fr where’s the hydraulic e brake test
As far as I am informed they usually do Film multiple episodes in a row and then edit them and make them into multiple episodes.
I love watching you guys go further and further into rally, overland, and other off road stuff.
Instead of going through the effort of sinking the screw heads in or building guards for them you could also just get some round headed screws with a hex or torx key.
Button head bolts are the answer for sure
Yep, using flanged button heads on my motocross bike, cheap and no ripped heads for years. Go for it!
You should recess your bolts! in order for something to shear the plate through the bolt, the shear area is the circumference of the bolt head times the thickness of the plate. When you recess your bolt, you are usually using wider heads so it makes the whole thing stronger too. Something like a flat head bolt with a shallow chamfer angle (standard is 82 deg) will really help.
Came here to say a stupider version of this. Not much will "skid" past those bolt heads on that plate, they'll catch and may tear the whole thing out if it happens to enough of them.
Pretty sure he discussed this at the end of the video.
Countersink the holes and then get countersunk machine screws instead of bolts
You need to add some redundant fasteners to the skid plate so that if you do sheer some off the plate won't dangle down. If it dangles, you risk major damage if the dangling part hits the next rock and the plate starts getting bent into very bad shapes.
We fitted our rally car with some steel cable welded on with like a mm of slack, and bolts on the other end, It saved our ass in the Auckland Rally, Still managed 2nd after smashing a bank as didn't fall off.
Gotta love being able to watch someone do a shuvit and design/install car parts. Very rad
I think Anthony deserves his own show, something like science corner, or explaining stuffs, anything Anthony likes
@WHATSAPP+①⑤⓪⑨⑥①⑥②②⑥② you know, I don't really classify myself retarded, so yeah bugger off
But you've already installed a skid plate that actually sounds good😂😂😂
What in the hell are these bots on every comment trying to accomplish?
@@lesterparker1594 I don't know just report and let KZhead do the rest
Anthony's awesome!
That YZ250 is sick. Now I'm going to build a pre runner style skid plate for my truck. Thanks for the inspiration
After low trucks skid plate im sure they got some inspiration for the DIY. Love to see the boys learnin
Use a wood blade when cutting aluminum🙌🏻 We cut hundreds of parts with them and have zero issues.
Im surprised that wood is hard enough to cut aluminum
@@LanceAtlas lol
The fact jobe sets up for his shuvs like it’s a hard flip just made me mad tight
Hey uhh fix the grammar and get rid of the other reply. Thanks! Btw ur the most popular comment on this vid
@@julianhernandez9351 Are you the comment police or something ?
didn't at all look like he was about to try a hard flip tho
@@julianhernandez9351 Hey uhh mind your own damn busisness
@@julianhernandez9351 ... Honestly man who do you think you are??? Out here, on the internet, ordering people to "fix their comment" and "get rid of the other reply". You remind me of the Dbag boss from Office Space
Made a skid plate for my low WRX out of an old stop sign I got off eBay for $20. Works great, didn't need to cut anything but did bend front . Attached w rivnuts.
Hey Zach, Anthony, great job. Way to take a necessary action competently! Quick tip from a machinist, if you'd like your blade to gum up less increase the speed. I got the idea that that's not possible with the machine you were using. Btw you two have some great energy together on screen. Some good comedic interaction, you obviously work well together, I'd like to see more of it. Thanks!
WD 40 can be used as a cutting fluid for aluminium. Might help with the gulling onto the cutting edge.
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Money pit was the coolest series donut has. Why arent you guys making any more of these?
You go lady! I’m sure your upcoming marathon will be a great experience! Best of luck from the States!
That shot of the gloves on the wall during welding was dope. Paired well with the chill music at the time too-
really caught a vibe there for a sec
ha! nice job guys as always ! and funny enough I am working on making a skid plates for my truck now as well only I am making it out of 3/16 steel hopefully will have a video about that sometimes soon once I finish them up
Have you considered using the right blade for aluminum? It takes something special to have a full shop with every tool and continue to do one hack job after the other. Amazing.
We have finally gotten the DIY skidplate that was teased weeks ago
You guys are part of the reason i bought a C5 Z06 and have been able to work on it myself 👍 love your vids
You guys nailed this video w/ the south Asian influenced music and letting the man work. Thanx dohnut.
I could watch this man work on cars every day, forever, and be thrilled about it
Absolutely LOVE Money Pit! You never cease to impress and amaze, Zach! Keep posting the great improvement & upgrade videos.
Should add the x-brace found on Z3, convertibles, and M3. It'll add rigidity/stiffness to the chassis.
Also if you haven't added a Short Shifter look into the Z4M lever. Add a slight bend and it'll fit perfectly. Cheap oem short shifter. Add the UUC DSSR as well.
Pretty pointless considering they have a welded in Rollcage.
Agreed! I built the skidplate for my M3 similar and it is reinforced by the X-brace. My skidplate has 2 hooks on the back of it that hook onto the rear tube of the X-brace, then it gets attached to a brace I welded up in the front. The front brace is triangulated, mounts to the frame at the bumper mounting points, then back to the anti-sway bar mounts. Also, the front of the skid plate should extend beyond the leading edge of the lower edge of the bumper and get bent up about 30 degrees. Mine is also mounted with some 1/4” pins with the spring-loops around them, very secure but the plate can be removed in seconds.
@@NotSean269 not really since it also gives extra protection to the oil pan area in the event the skid plate breaks off. I always say extra precaution are better than minimal. I had an e36 before so I know from experience.
im glad you mentioned the bolt heads on the skid plate really need to get pan head bots and sounter sinks those bad boys because eventually your going to break one off
Use the same composite from the gas tank to coat and recess skid plate. Still a good diy. Same thing ppl do for jet boats.
4:50 Drilling holes in the cardboard and transferring them to the frame was a pointless exercise. Fab the aluminum, clamp it to the car, and then drill all your holes in one shot. Also, you should have used flat head cap screws and drilled tapered holes in the skid plate so that the heads of the bolts don't get knocked off. Otherwise, a pretty solid project overall.
Easier to line up the holes with the foldy-bendy cardboard rather than having to guess or actually measure where the holes would have to go with the aluminum plate in your way. Good point regarding the screws tho. Fact is, it ain't too late to fix that.
@@JunKus3R You don't have to guess or measure anything. The frame members around the perimeter are easy to see and you can draw lines with a straight edge across the skid plate from the ends to determine where in the middle you want to drill. The issue with using the cardboard is that your holes will not line up because a sloppy hole in the cardboard will not transfer nicely to the frame and to the skid plate. They likely had to enlarge the size of the holes in the skid plate off camera in order to get the bolts to line up with the riv-nuts.
@@SuzukiKid400 Mix of both would be easiest. Mark where you want the holes on the cardboard, transfer with marker to the skid plate after it's cut, clamp in place, drill through. No guessing, no measuring, no misalignment.
@@MeatPoPsiclez I agree.
Road signs make the best skid plates, especially wildlife crossing signs lol
mines a do not enter sign, cus i do not want rocks to enter my oil pan
@@Oblio1942 smart
Thumbs up for the Final Fantasy reference with a car video! Edit: I should more importantly say, since I didn't see anyone else say it, save the cardboard outlines! The whole point of skid plates is they're cheaper to replace than the component parts you would be damaging. Having to go through the trouble of cutting new cardboard and then aligning the already existing bolt placement would detract from the full use. Great video, love the direction the Beemer is going!
i had the same sort of setup on my last car, never knocked a bolt head off and used to rip around a rock pit I worked at so it took allot of abuse from rocks. your setup looks a little cleaner though i just used an old aluminum sign and made it fit but it wasnt quite big enough to fit this clean.
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@@SK_9797 same here :)
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For aluminium next time you can use bi metal blades (for wood with nails) the teeth on the blad are more spaced out but still hard enough to cut metal with it. works like a charm 👌
When cutting aluminum, alcohol-based cooling works best because it prevents the blades from gum up. We used hand disinfection with alcohol when we were doing a lot of aluminum.
Absolutely loving this series considering I’ve been saving to do my own rallycross build for a year now. This is just a extra layer of motivation
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I am super hyped to see this E36 roaring in the Desert !!!!!!
I use that milwaukee jig saw all the time, thing rips. Also when it comes to metal blades and all jig saw blades the tooth per inch (tpi) makes a huge difference. There are different thicknesses and aggressive levels to the teeth too. A lot to consider but definitely having the right tool for the job is money....pit
We need a Zach Jobe/Cloud with his aluminum “sword” t-shirt! … or at least a sticker. That was awesome.
Am I wrong for wanting a rally Miata?
Lol got a Donut tag, but only 1 like (from me hehe)
no
Miata Is Always The Answer
Very nicely executed. I'd recommend checking out the can am x3 skid plate washers, the are a large diameter with a recess in mind to protect your hardware.
This really was one of my favorite vidoes from donut.
Big fan of the work you've all done
The way I bursted out laughing when I saw Dwayne, I was like “oh haha it’s Dwayne the rock ….. oh shit Dwayne the rock Johnson 🤯” lmfaoooooo
The music while you were mounting the skid plate…..juicy. Reminds me a bit of the sound track to the Apple Arcade game Grindstone, which is fantastic.
Nubs to protect the bolts is a good idea, fun tig welding project and less time than it would take it redo them recessed
hey donut, i absolutely love y'll man, youre the reason ive fallen in love with cars so much
15:19 But then you'll need hardwareguards for your hardwareguards just in case they break off too
Love this series
I used an old speed limit sign I bought off of eBay for $40 on my gambler 500 car. Not as refined but it gets the job done for cheap.
Watching you use that jigsaw was PAINFUL.
I was about to say "Good job rangling that heavy aluminum bois" then Zach turned into a final fantasy character and I gained 5 new forhead wrinkles.
Another exhaust installation video 🤘💪
skid plate was probably one of the top 5 mods i did for my mk4 jetta tdi. mine was prefab'd though
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Great to see Antony back. Great fit fir donut
Sick to see this E36 coming along nicely
Curious observation and question......when you transferred to the metal from cardboard why did you use the "bottom half" leaving a funky top shape left over and not much sides, as opposed to starting at the top and having essentially 3 rectangles left over.......always good to have useable scrap right????
very satisfying curl
Nice work, you can use a countersink bit and pan head screws to get your hardware as flush as possible.
I love that the series called Money Pit is typically the videos with less than 1 minute ads.
This is the best series ever! You guys even get celebrities to be on the show!
Little tip for the oil pan plate. Put foam on the plate between the pan and plate. It'll keep rocks from getting caught and potentially punching a hole if it gets hit.
I was working on Fabia S2000 and lightest base skidplate was from 5mm aluminium with reinforcements. And was intended for road use only. For Offroad use va are talking about about thicker aluminium or steel. There are three skidplates on Fabia. Front, midle and back. And with combination of variants of skidplates you can add a lot of weight to balance car for example on jumps. Difference between lightest and hevies combination of skidplates is over 200kg.
Best series on KZhead, keep up the great work 👍
Thank you ebay motors! Great series.
That a sick dirt bike in the back ground there hopefully we’ll get some content bikes one day. Keep up the good work guys.👍
Cardboard Aided Design my favorite fab tool
Music this ep was chill AF! Loved it .
Hey guys your content is amazing and coming from someone who does a lot of aluminum fabrication cutting aluminum works best when you can use a cut off wheel but before you go straight at it cut into some wax like candle wax or something like that it’ll keep the blade from gumming like that and stop every 45-60 seconds for more wax it’ll cut way smother you’ll thank me later keep up the great work guys 👍
i love looking at the clean yz
This was a really good episode, just a couple boys at work! Makes you wanna get off your chair and get on a project
9:17 I sometimes reach over for tools and parts the same way, making similar noises. Lowers frustration build ups.
You could use button head bolts so there are rounded corners or countersink bolts to they sit flush and countersink the aluminum.