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I feel like Ginny was more mature this season so she wasn't as painful to watch
Agreed, Ginny was better than she was last season, so the writers seem to be more self aware, at least.
lol thank you for this. I put off season 2 bc I was not in the mood for her character
I think she was a little the same. I think that in S1, she was new and a mess. Now that things were more settled, she could be as well.
She wasn't painful to watch at all, I don't understand the hate towards Ginny, when she responded pretty well, all things considered, to her mom's actions.
She cried every episode. It was dreadful.
People expect Ginny to self regulate her emotions while being raised by an adult who doesn’t know how to self regulate her emotions. I love how the representation for therapy especially for black/mixed race people and the fact Ginny as a biracial girl has a biracial female therapist. It also highlights that though Georgia did struggle at the the day of she is still a privileged white woman
I really find it odd how "privileged" has become some kind of negative thing that one should be ashamed for especially when that person is white. Everyone enjoys their own privileges and every race has some sort of privileges one way or another.
@@the.earthlyaquarius Privilege is not a bad thing it’s just Georgia happens to White Privilege in a sense .
@@karleecraziness9216 In what sense?
@@the.earthlyaquarius When people say that white people are privileged they mean that being white isn't the cause of their struggles. For Ginny we have seen that being biracial causes her to feel like an outcast , she has been targeted by a teacher, etc. Georgia's life is not perfect, but none of her struggles are due to her being white, so in that sense, she has white privilege. It's not something she can change, however, she does not seem to try to understand her daughter's struggles related to race, which is a problem.
@@the.earthlyaquarius Privilege didn’t mean you didn’t struggle. It just means there are things you don’t struggle with. For example Georgia suffer racial trauma like Ginny. Ginny has privilege Braisa doesn’t because Of her Proximity whiteness.
I feel like it’s weird that they include such small scenes to show abby’s ED like her rushing to the bathroom after she eats tothrow up but they don’t go in depth with that at all
I think next season it’ll be a bigger story. Especially with the other girl in their friend group having the same disorder.
They tired of her😂😂and honestly same
@@mewesquirrel6720I love Abby I think her character is growing in a good way
@@mewesquirrel6720 Abby>>
No I think it makes sense. Sometimes the people around you struggle and you have no idea at all, not everyone gets to speak up about their issues. I think it's actually very interesting that they hinted at her having and ED without anyone noticing. People's struggles don't become real when someone notices them, they always were
The teacher should of had everyone in the class present a book they think represents their own experience. This allows him to get some insight into what teenagers nowadays are going through and he can pick out books that they can both learn and relate to more easily. Thats just my two sense
Should have had* and just my two cents* couldn’t resist. Otherwise that’s a good idea.
That would’ve been a good idea
the teacher just seems really incompetent. i mean, Lord of the Flies for an AP English class? I was assigned that book in 7th grade 😂
@@AlexPhillipsiscool that’s the writers’ flop 😅
Your two sense? You mean cents?
Joe is still an unsung king, and my favourite of Georgia's three love interests. If last season was mostly about Zion, and this one about Paul, does that mean that Joe will eventually get his chance next time?! 😉
Right, especially with him showing up at the end with the “it should’ve been me” energy.
Ugh but I kinda hate that idea for Joe. I’m hopeing he finds someone way better than Georgia. Like someone who isn’t a murderer 😅
@@suedejones974 yeah this is how I feel too~ I'm like aw poor joee but also he srslg deserves sm better than Georgia smhh
@@suedejones974 Yesss same here! Joe is definitely my favourite character in the series and I love the continuity of how he and Georgia impacted on each others lives in some way back from whe they were so young. I hope in future seasons we get more of a focus on him and his character arc and he gets a love interest who actually has his best interest at heart
@@suedejones974 georgia only murder her ex husban because of sexual assault
people praise georgia but never talk abt how shes emotionally abusive. the whole food situation, when she found out she self harmed and the teenage lvl arguments with her daughter. ofc ginny is having issues(not to excuse her behavior tho bc shes an ass sometimes )
You’re absolutely right.
The problem is, people will defend Georgia with their LIFE, but expect Ginny, the mentally ill teenager, to be the mature one.
could you elaborate more? im still a lil confused lmao
@@annasophia2428 yeah same im also confused, but i havent seen the second season yet so it makes sense
@@annasophia2428eorgia said to Ginny that she cooked food, Ginny didnt want to eat so Georgia threw everything they had at home away. "If you dont want to eat, you wont get anything". When Georgia found out Ginny harm herself, she came into her room with a lighter and wanted Ginny to show Georgia her wounds. She somewhat forced herself onto Ginny to see them. She cried and both talked about it and hugged it out.
I don’t think that people realise that Georgia KILLED somebody (Ginny’s step dad) and for a child to find out that their parent is a murderer , a person they have known their entire life will be incredibly difficult to digest. I don’t understand why people are calling her unbearable, how would you react if you found out your parents did the things that she did? probably not any better , lets be fr.
She didn’t just “murder” him for no reason. If she did than I would completely understand but she murdered him because he was literally trying to molest Ginny. And Georgia’s been through that before so she acted on survival. Which probably wasn’t the best thing to do but she had to do what she had to do to help her family out. And Ginny finding out was her own fault no one told you to go through your moms things. Georgia didn’t want to tell Ginny in the first place because she knew it was going to be to much to handle. Which in fact it was..
@@dunkinlovee2043 i understand why she is the way she is and why she reacted so strongly but there were other options, to kill him was extreme to say the least. and then what she did to cynthia’s husband was out of line. she had good intentions but again way too extreme.
@@miarippon532 I dont think most parents would agree with you there.
@@dunkinlovee2043 doesn't matter if it wasn't for no reason imagine if someone died bc u
@@Kaykaysvibe he didn’t die because of Ginny he died because of himself nobody told him to touch Ginny like that. He messed with the wrong person’s daughter.
The only ones I can see Ginny possibly being friends with after high school is Abby and Bracia and even then I think they need to have more time and building of their friendships.
Idk i feel like Max got better. Might be worth keeping if she continues to try to improve. I feel like Ginny was only friend to call her out.
@@heathersherwood3361 Yeah I agree to. I still think Max needs to grow a bit more… but honestly that could apply to Abby aswell but Abby needs some healing and peace 😭🙏🏾 Bracia imo has the best potential of being a good friend for Ginny we need more of them 😭
Abby is a bad influence.
@@Dom-if7rx Yeah I lowkey agree but I think Abby has some personal things she needs to work on and if she does start to heal her personal struggles I do think she and Ginny could be a good friendship. The fact that Abby feels as though she can talk to Ginny about her family stuff says a lot there so I think they have potential.
@@lilxamryn I can tell Abby is mostly affected by her family issues and ED so at least it doesn’t seem to be coming from a well intentioned place. Bracia has definitely been the best friend so far. Such a sweetheart!
Finally someone assessing Georgia’s teenage behavior. People hate Ginny but blindly love and praise Georgia 🙄
i dont like georgia cause she's 'perfect'. She's not, i just appreciate flawed characters
Literally, this is so true
@@gonegirl000 So do I. That's why i can both judge and appreciate BOTH Ginny and Georgia.
@@gonegirl000 and Ginny too is flawed character right? Also forgetting everything her mom did Ginny was still trying to support her in the end of season 2. But people still gonna hate Ginny maybe because they don't see Georgia as a mother but just a main character.
I like both of them-
One thing that really annoyed me was in the first season where the girls come to Ginny's room after blaming her for shoplifting, with the foundation and were like "Oh, we had to go to five stores to find a shade dark enough for you." I was so confused, because Nora is literarily darker than Ginny. Like, I know that's a genuine problem many poc have, but like, Ginny's shade is like in every store 😅
Finally!!!!! someone picked up on that!
Mang is basically that one friend group that lowkey hates each other but tries to tolerate them because it feels convenient and better off than being by oneself. This the type of highschool group you're either going to leave or allow them to see their flaws and change...(rare to even happen) but how long can you wait? They'll hold you back from your owth growth. Anyways I remember seeing your take on the first season and yes I agree that this season is much of an improvement than the last-in some areas lol (like them weaving in the race problem, I hope season 3 shifts and works on handling that)
literally
Hit the nail on the head with the mang description!
Can relate. My group os not exactly like the the mang grp, but we are kind of disconnected. Or maybe i feel that way. I guess its becuase of a "fight" i had with someone in the grp. She is a person with different outlooks on life, and things got ugly, even tho sje was the one who wanted us to make up, i know we cant go back to being perfect. Maybe now on ill just feel a bit guilty or disconnected every time im with them. Its sad, bcz i remeber having friends i was a huge ride or die with. So this feeling is weird for me.
lol mang reminds me a lot of my old friend group back in middle school, there were four of us but i always felt like a fish out of water. although we were only friends for 2-3 years or so. there was a lot of joking around and it was cute and all, but no one ever paid attention to anyone's problems and there was always petty stuff going on. although it's different when you're little vs in high school but still lol
@@chaaaargh thisss. We also had a friend grp in middle school. We also had a name yet we were toxic to each other and i somewhat always felt left out.
This may be unpopular or whatever but I really want them to explore Abby's character more. Her character's struggles with body dysmorphia and an ED is really relatable to many and I wish they would go further in depth with her. Hopefully next season she gets more episodes to herself or mostly to her character's plot.
agree i really liked abbies character and wish she had more screen time, i hate norah though and wish she would go away
She's the best of the teenagers too. She can be a bit snarky, but she genuinely cares about her friends, while the rest are so self absorbed. She's also one of the best actors on the show, so that helps her likeability.
I found it so weird why Ginny was begging her little boyfriend to follow her also Padma and Joe (Raymond black) are real life brother and sister
Ohhh that's why she said he was like an older brother. It felt like the writers were winking at us. I didn't know why... 🤦🏾♀️
Ok not me kinda shipping them together. So gross
@@suedejones974 I shipped them too until I found out they were siblings then I stopped
@@suedejones974 you were shipping a teenager and a grown man…?
@@nativenewyorker3144 I know that’s why I said “ So gross” . Also I thought she was a senior/ 18 yo. It happens, it’s weird ultimately it’s a tv show. Like the drama of it all.
This season was so much better. Not only plot and writing, but acting. Ginny's therapy scenes really brought me around and kinda got me a little watery eyed. Also Jack and Jill is an affluent club for black people. And you're not going to believe this, but that's not the actor that played Iceman, that's the twin brother of the actor that played Iceman. Look up Aaron (G&G) and Shawn Ashmore (X-men).
I forgot he had a twin until after I uploaded 😩but he did play his double in X2 so technically I’m not wrong (ok, I am wrong but we’re going to pretend I’m not lol)
he has a twin? omg lol i’ve been saying “bobby!” everytime i see him on screen lol
Why does everyone love Georgia? She’s a terrible person. She refuses to acknowledge how her behavior affects her children or her partner, she uses everyone as pawns, shes overbearing, she’s narcissistic, she lies, she steals, she KILLS. The fact that people dislike Ginny so much while adoring Georgia pisses me off to no end. GEORGIA was the unbearable character. The whole show is just a mess anyway.
This!! I left season one thinking Georgia was a horrible mother and I still feel that way after season two. I can't put into words the emotional rollercoaster she continues to put her kids through. Her daughter is self-harming, and her son is displaying some characteristics that really need to be evaluated. Not to mention he witnessed his mother kill and man, and he had to shoot his father. This show is something else!
@@christinefaulk6531 EXACTLY! Everyone shitting on Ginny either has to be a child or emotionally stunted on my opinion. It absolutely doesn’t make sense. I see a lot of my mothers behavior in Georgia, the bad and the ugly- and I see a lot of myself in Ginny. It’s so unbelievable that people can’t sympathize with a CHILD and they’re all blaming her for reacting to horribly traumatic information. Her mother murdered multiple people and is emotionally immature, overbearing and refuses to respect Ginny’s pleads. It’s disgusting.
tbf she killed her husband bc he was abusive but everything else i can get by. ginny's annoying as hell and that's what people usually focus on bc she's the main character, but georgia can be a LOT to bear at once
What makes me extra mad is that they even addressed some of that (ginny about how Georgia doesn't respect her boundaries and is unwilling to listen, Zions parents when they say it didn't have to be that hard and I'm sure Georgia even agreed to that?) and people are STILL putting her on that pedestal, ignoring that even the _actual show_ addressed those issues between them while they despise ginny to no end. I like both of them, I'm feeling so sorry for Georgia but despite her efforts, she's just not a perfect mom (no one is probably, but she's just very set in her ways and it's hard to change them ig) and Ginny is a tad self centered too (like when she didn't notice Marcus was struggling and even when she came to him to comfort him he had to interrupt her so she'd stop talking about herself), but like,,, she _is_ 16 years old and she _is_ trying and caring. And I think it's mentioned that that's her first friendgroup, she's learning how to be a friend rn and given those circumstances, I think she's actually doing pretty well
all of what she did was for her well being and her kids... also her family wasnt the greatest, so she always had to fend for herself
Fun Fact: Austin's dad isn't Iceman, he's Jimmy Olson from Smallville. The two are twin brothers that both happen to be actors! Spent my entire childhood thinking it was the same guy😅
I didn't know they're twins!
@@shoujokadyan5502 It's mind blowing information!😂
Omg thanks, I had no idea lol!
I recognised him as the lighter guy from the boys was driving me crazy where I recognised him from
I literally spent like a minute or so looking through IMDB to see which twin it was.
The one who really needs therapie is austin that poor kid
I really hate how much people glorify Georgia and demonize Ginny. Ginny isn't a being of pure evil and spite, sent to ruin Georgia. Ginny grew up having to worry about bills, food and housing. Ginny had a young mother who couldn't self regulate, and most likely hurt Ginny on accident. She had an unstable bond with her father, who she obviously didn't see that often. Georgia did her best, absolutely she did. She loves Ginny, her children are her whole world. She literally killed for Ginny, and she'd do more for her baby. Georgia is Ginny's momma, and she loves having that pleasure. But doing your best isn't always enough. Sometimes your best is bad, or just ok. And, sometimes, people aren't content with your best. Some people need more than your best. Ginny needs more than Georgia's best. And it's neither of their faults. Its not Ginny's fault for having a rough childhood, or stunted emotional growth. Its not Georgia's fault for falling short, or being immature when she shouldn't be. Both Ginny and Georgia need help. They're human, and I wish people saw that a bit more.
Ginny is self centered cause Georgia had a worse childhood and did her best to support her children..so yeah ginny is pure evil!
For a lot of the times, it's just hard to sympathize for her because of how the writers justified her cheating on Hunter.
@@praisew1957 nuance isn't a thing common for you...
@@praisew1957 Does it matter that Georgia had a worse childhood? They both suffered, and it affects both of them even now. I don’t understand all this one-upping and comparing.
@@praisew1957 and I'm sure someone has had a worse childhood than Georgia so shes also evil..right? No bc that's not how life works, just bc someone's suffered more doesn't mean another person can't also have issues 💀
I surprisingly actually liked Ginny this season but I honestly feel like mang won't last after college 💀
fr they kinda toxic
do high school friends really last long anyway?
@@majeda_a nah but sometimes they do but it's quite rare
I think Ginny needs to know Georgia’s past only because it keeps effecting their present.
I mean I get it in that aspect. But Ginny walks around like she’s entitled to know everything and it’s just like… girl 🙄
@@TheBlushBunny i agree!!
@@TheBlushBunny yet she has to nerve to ask her own mother to respect her boundaries but demands to know every little thing about her past
@@Ami-rb2hu every LITTLE thing???
I think that the whole cold shoulder thing was less race than just the friend groups. Padma had already told Ginny that Marcus was non-committal and he had never been particularly warm to her in public before. Max was pissed at her and she was the leader of their friend group and Hunter had gotten cheated on. Bracia wasn't a part of that friend group at all and so she wouldn't have been impacted by that other drama.
I think , partially,it was about friend groups. But also Marcus and Ginny creeping around was already public so it didn’t make sense for him to turn his back on her when she was walking towards him. But then again, a lot of choices they make on this show doesn’t make sense so you could be right and I could be way off. Lol
@@TheBlushBunny the thing is, marcus didn’t show the cold shoulder to her, she only felt that way. they talked about it later and it was clearly just a misunderstanding
I don't think it was a friendship group thing or a race thing since he defends Ginny all the time and is with her in school when they're official, I think it was just Marcus being non-committal and not wanting to be seen with her in public hence the sneaking through the window etc
This season was 100% better than season 1, we still had bits of cringe like with the whole EDM blue smoothie thing, hunter cringe, and a little Marcus cringe? Like since when was he some woke guy, like not about his depression but when we were saying Thanksgiving was a government lie or whatever. Other than that still sucks that Abby didn't tell anyone about how she puts tapes on her legs and the whole thing with Preston was very uhm interesting. I have no idea why Samatha was hanging with "M" and "N" it was weird having her there. Other than that really liked this season and Ginny is growing on me. Still Georiga supremacy :D
right? they made marcus seem overly woke and I think they tried tp show ginny's influence on him but ginny doesn't act as woke as she was in s1 so it just comes off as strange.
@@erinaethila9736 THANK YOU. I'm glad other people thought that too, like so random lol. Ginny ate in s2 though but the only time she's shown she's "woke" in s1 was when she was first introduced to Mr. Gitten and went on about how all the book were written by white men or something.
I thought they were gonna develop Abby as a character this season and show more of her hardships. But just like last season they don’t and it’s disappointing.
@@StanChunghaOrGoHome I agree! I was screaming for someone to help my girl but she just was pushed to the side 😔
It feels like they used Georgia as a plot device for Ginny this season. So they make her do things that to me seem out of character like throwing away all the food in the house, not attempting to manipulate her ex abuser back into jail, and then making her an “obvious outsider” when it came to Ginny and race. When Ginny went to therapy with Georgia and constantly complained about her not understanding her emotions but instead they keyed in on race??? It was just so off base to me especially since her mom was one of the only people ready to fight for any racial issue Ginny was faced with. Next, to me if someone came and told me that my momma has done some things and he’s a private investigator, i would’ve left it ALONE. The police didnt catch her, and i dont know what she did so why would I get involved? Its just so weird how ginny acts and has little to no reasoning behind it besides lacking an ounce of empathy. Oh yeah and the needless death of a random guy that georgia commits. Which completely degrades her entire moral code of sting first. Mercy killing top help someone you’re beefing with ??? Crazy. I did like the emotional developments this season because Marcus’ emotions and actions resonated with me in ways I’ve felt in the past. I also emotionally understand Ginny more she just has a horrible way of communicating it (aka she doesn’t). The teacher being blatantly racist is annoying mainly because it wouldn’t happen irl. The comments? Sure, an entire curriculum ? No way lol. They could’ve made it more realistic if instead of jumping to conclusions on racism we could watch Ginny come to a realization that someone is actually discriminating towards her. Then she can have that moment like a majority of us black teens have where we feel uneasy then start asking questions to those close to us/ looking it up. That would make this show a trillion times better because instead of “calling out” racism in these teen characters it would display the mental and emotional weight that comes with facing every day discrimination. Instead they forced ginny to have a mental breakdown about her mother, but threw race in there too.
ngl, even though I related to marcus' depression and the little monolgue he made about it, it was so fucking random of the show to do. it felt like I was watching something out of euphoria 💀 also I'm glad you've made a video on the new season, I enjoyed it much better than the first and loved your video on that one too 💗
Yes it was so random😭but I slowly got into the way they used his monologue to tell the story from the same day with two perspectives.
It was so annoying. Like I don't care,yeah you have depression so do I but this show IS NOT ABOUT YOU
@@mewesquirrel6720 well damn 😭
doesn’t max even mention something about euphoria when marcus shows up to school drunk in that very same episode lol?
@@majeda_a lol yes she does
I feel like marcus depresion is the most realistic depression on anny show
i really like the way they portrayed marcus depression in this season, because it very much reminds me of when im in my episodes. honestly i wish more shows actually portrayed depression in an actually good way
As a mixed person, I can see a lot of myself in Ginny. She is a mixed girl with a white mother and black father who was mainly raised by her white mother who had no idea how to raise a mixed kid. Which is obviously not Georgia fault in anyway but she still didn’t try to make any effort to teach Ginny about her roots or protect her racism, she only saw creepy old men and poverty as a threat (things she dealt with as a kid) to Ginny and focused on that. She can only help Ginny with problems she has experienced. But Georgia is still a very loving a fiercely protective mother so I wouldn’t doubt for a second that she wouldn’t run like Hell to try to help Ginny with a racial issue if she knew about it, so it’s more of a she can’t help issue than she doesn’t care. Also when Georgia does see Ginny struggling to be a mixed kid, she never takes the right course of action (again because she doesn’t know). I feel like Ginny would understand the struggles of being a mixed kid more if she had more time with Zion as a kid. Ginny was raised more of a white kid by Georgia which doesn’t fit and causes more issues because she is not a white kid, much like myself. Overall I think Ginny’s struggles as a mixed kid (and her lack of knowledge on how to deal with it) are very realistic for someone raised by a white person. *EDIT:* Also I always welcomed with open arms by white people, never black people. I can make friends with white people pretty easily and they don’t ask me dumb questions about being mixed or black. Only black people do that.
I completely agree with you, especially on the very last part. Being biracial comes with its own unique struggles and many of us struggle with acceptance and our identity. And it doesn’t help when the people around us don’t understand it well either. Although Ginny still gets on my nerves, and although I love Georgia, spending more time with her Dad would be good for her- she can finally interact with a side of herself that she’s never been able to before. I understand Georgia’s concern, but she’s definitely got tunnel vision with this decision, and it hurts Ginny more than it helps. Very realistic, very frustrating to watch because it’s frustrating to live it. I’m glad to see a show TRULY representing a mixed girl instead of just making her the “light skinned pretty privileged” character; I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes EDIT: I don’t wanna sound like I’m attacking Ginny cause to me she seemed to be more mature and start to have some character development; ik I said she gets on my nerves sometimes but I just wanted to say that LOLL. And also I appreciate so much her having a mixed therapist. A small detail some might overlook but it makes a world of difference
That's because black people tend to weirdly put mixed people(especially girls/women) on a pedestal. They also seem to like forcing mixed people to identify as black when they're equal parts black and a whole other race. I'm black, btw.
@niya Georgia didn’t keep Zion away from her child he was a deadbeat for most of her childhood especially when Georgia needed him.
@@sarebear7777 i dont get this. When black people tend to see white people as mixed we are jealous and have shade on them.
@@sarebear7777 THIS. FINALLY THIS (the second part of the comment). I know a girl that has a white mom and a black father. She was saying that her mom have internalized racism for always saying that she's not black, she's morena (a word that can mean that you have brunette hair _or_ that you're a mix between dark skin/fair skin, normally black and white). She was laughing and saying "do you believe that?" as if her mom was wrong. It feels very odd to me that she insists on saying she's a black person (which she is partly), but refusing to accept that she's not entirely. She has perfectly on the middle black and white features (curly hair, darker skin like Ginny's, a body type similar to both races, a small nose, bigger lips, etc. Everything on her is perfectly mixed, not black enough and not white enough). It's strange that she wants to claim half of her but ignores the other half, as if her mom isn't part of her body, of her environment, of her life. It feels wrong.
okay. i’m black. and i’m not oblivious to microagressions but like, i wouldn’t have been mad if the teacher asked me to lead the presentation. i am HIGHLY anxiety ridden so i would want to be asked first before he announced it to the whole class. but i wouldn’t think him asking me to present the book or whatever as racist. because id be the one who could relate the most. imagine if he asked hunter to do it. then it would be “he can’t relate though he’s an asian male”. so i do think he should’ve handled being inclusive better, but i don’t think him trying to be inclusive was inherently the problem. or maybe i’m reading things wrong?
Yeah, I totally didn't understand Ginny's problem with the teacher. I thought it was nice of him trying to have her present a book which she thinks is inclusive. Cause how could he know as a white middle aged man? All her problems with him felt to me like she was seeing problems where there weren't. I always felt like the teacher was singleing her out because she openly critisized him since the first class, not because she was black. However I must mention that I am white, so I wasn't (and still am not) sure if I just don't understand the subtext because of my white privilage. But I have seen teachers singleing out "rioters"/those who were complaining aloud, in all white classroom. That's why I didn't really connect it to racism.
I was confused because she objected to his curriculum very loudly and publicly (which yes it did need revision but she could have brought it up differently) so he's listened and said ok here is an opportunity for you to show everyone what you think it should look like and then everyone's mad. I was so confused like there are problems with this dude but he tries to do something and it's still wrong. I did see another comment that said he should have everyone present a book that they relate too or reflects their experience so maybe that would have been better?
it’s cuz she was made to do the job of the white teacher. instead of ONLY the book thing she was made to write a whole lesson plan about it. for the white teacher it felt like a cop out on his part, “if you don’t like how i do it why don’t YOU do it” type of thing. and he only asked ginny, not any other students of color for a varied perspective.
"Ginny's... fiiiiiine.... daddy..." 🤣🤣🤣
anyone else find it weird that mang is the main friend group of the story and we get insight into all of them and even other recurring characters but we get nothing about norah except that she has two moms and a boyfriend she’s been with for three years. like no story except being a lemming for max. also i’m loving the new relationships we get this season. like all the random pairings of people and we see their little dynamics. ex. joe and marcus, ginny and padma, marcus and silver (?), that new girl in the friend group. like i love that the cast is being more expanded and we don’t just have “these are the main characters and these are the random side characters that poke in and out” we actually kinda get to see the people. and we see ginny with like three friend groups at a time. oh and ginny’s black girl friend group is so cute 😭❤️
im guessing were gonna see more from the friends we havent seen a lot from yet in the next season like bracia and nora and kind of their background because even though they get a lot of screen time theyre barely having any story.... especially how nora is an asian girl but they kind of portray her as the rest and not verry "asian" at all...
You forgot Nora's big plot point! She's always menstruating. Poor girl. 😅
it seems that norah has it all together, that's boring
though I think they were lowkey trauma-bonding, i was kinda living for the Abby + Ginny duo, like it was giving reputation, and also like giving that one friend who u don't rlly have an emotional connection with but they're rlly fun and make ya feel good like iykyk
This isn’t related to anything, but I cannot STAND the way everyone pronounced Padma’s name. That’s it. It just kills me
Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s pretty close to what the proper pronunciation. Unlike like pad -(pronounced like mad) ma
Thanks for uploading! I wanna know your thoughts on Georgia murdering Cynthia’s husband, Tom. I felt like it was so out of her character. Georgia has this philosophy that she would do anything for her kids and “sting first” but this Tom’s murder has nothing to do with her kids or her safety. It just lost consistency of her character and I didn’t really like how that ended up. What do you think🤔
yea that part really felt like a "the show has to go on" move
So, at first it threw me off. I thought she did it for the sake of doing it. But later we learn she did it as a “favor” to relieve her new found friend of the torture of holding on to her husband, I understood why. Georgias way of showing love and appreciation is always to the full extreme. It’s all or nothing, no matter what she has to do or the consequences that ensue. Cynthia showed up for her with Gil, so she reciprocated with Tom. So in that sense I do think it matches her character.
@@TheBlushBunnybut it doesn’t make it right lmao. like i don’t give a fuck if georgia thought she was “relieving” cynthia of her pain by mercy killing her husband SHE SHOULDNT HAVE DONE IT PERIOD. like that is not the way to go about things and if she really thought this was the ONLY way she could help cynthia then georgia is wayyy more messed up than she thinks. the man was already dying for god’s sake like just let him go on his own terms peacefully cynthia didn’t ask georgia to do such a drastic thing all she was doing was venting a little about her pain and grief over tom
@@majeda_a …I didn’t say that it was right. I said I understand why her character would do that. It fits who she is.
@@majeda_a exactly it just shows how normal it is for Georgia to just kill people.
At this point Netflix should just hire you to write the show.
Listen, they need to go ahead and call me so I can get them together lol
Your voice is so calm
I feel like the writers saw that more of the fans loved more Georgia and Max,that’s why they made Max so dramatic and mentioned that Georgia dressed as racist and said “it was only a costume” which I can’t believe since she is so protective of her daughter😬
My name is max and I’m dramatic 😂
Georgia dressed as Scarlett O’Hera in the Halloween episode in season 1
Yeah butchered her character
max has always been dramatic and annoying☠️
Can I please get an explanation for the scarlet O'Hara thing. I don't really know who that is?
without the actual murder and the different partners, Georgia is just a literal depiction of my mother, the lies, the she she she and just she talk and chaotic environment she creates, the end justify the means EVERYTHING its just so painful to watch for my, bc i know how is to live with a person who doesn't know how to be responsible for their actions and the fear of feeling just like her bc all views u have from the world are from a person who doesn't think bout the repercussions of their actions and end up hiding everything. im so glad not to be living with her anymore and goin to therapy. i dont get why everyone loves georgia and victimize herself bc all of the stuff she went through BUT STILL NOT CHOOSING whats best for their children shes just doing the same shit and glitter everything up (literally said in the show) its just painful for me to watch
Thank you so much for uploading, I've missed your videos. I still prefer Georgia's storyline over the teen drama, though Ginny was thankfully more bearable this time round! 😁
honestly prefer Paul over all of them
Thank you for watching as always! I appreciate it. And I prefer Georgias story as well. I’m nervous to talk about it on here though, KZhead likes to pick and choose what they allow lol
Not you calling Padma Ginny’s sister-wife because it definitely gives 🤣 I would not be all buddy buddy with the chick who slept with my man while I was still dating him.
The racism was done a bit better than last season. It held more power. Last season the major forcing if it showed clearly from episode 1. The cop scene is number 1, a cop looks at Ginny, Ginny glares back at it, the cops is disrespected. Ginny assumes he’s racist because he’s white and tryna do his job. Did I read this situation right, politely disagree with me if you have other opinions. The main issues with the racism is it can’t be forced, it needs to be impactful instead of extremely constant, it makes it lack of significance instead of being another one of every episode. If it’s gonna be a plot it should be done well, but it was nice to see a raise in tone for this season
Agreed
The cop is disrespected because of a glare
with the cop situation it was that he was looking at Ginny like she was suspicious of something & she caught it.
yes girl, it’s good you’re learning spanish, it’ll be worth it x
I’m liking it so far! Even though I said buenos instead of buenas in my lesson in the video 🫠
@@TheBlushBunny yeah it takes times, we have a lot of feminine and masculine ways for words, it’s not as inclusive as english, but eventually you’ll get it, even if you make a mistake people understand you, don’t stop and good luck with it x
Spanish is so hard to learn! But I love it so much
Same I ever thought I'd end up liking Ginny either but after this season I can actually say I do.
I don't think I'll actually watch Ginny and Georgia but I like the commentary on it- especially yours! I love your style of videos!
you should def watch it you’ll be hooked lmao
Thank you for watching love. I appreciate it. 💕
@@kxmuna fr i thought i wasn't gonna watch it or like it....ended up binge watching it lol
My mom and I watch Ginny and Georgia together and we were so mad Ginny didn't see Marcus was going through a severe depressive episode like I know she got her own shit going on but how are you with him all the time and you don't notice something is even a LITTLE off. Iirc, at one point my mom said to the TV during the break up "it's always "me me me" with her, girl it's not always about YOU." And I still think about the end scene of season 2 and poor baby Austin ALL THE TIME, the show has problems but overall I can't wait for season 3.
The jack and Jill thing is race based lmao that was so real of the grandma to say that, it made it realistic fr. Her response was exactly what I was thinking when Ginny didn’t know
So, racism against white people, then?
The ending where Gil was hurting her got to me. Along for when she got arrested. ALSO along with her getting married
Jack and Jill was kinda like a fun zone with bouncy houses, arcades, and pizza in small towns
Oddly, I get Marcus vibes from Joe, and Hunter vibes from Paul. Georgia keeps pushing Paul away, not because for no reason, but because she doesn't really love him as a husband. They make great business partners, but as marriage partners they clash. The part of her being in a gingerbread house Paul even confronted this in why she won't take him as a partner seriously because she doesn't really love him, rather her only thought towards Paul is survival mode for security and money. She never had room in her subconscious mind for an authentic romantic relationship with Paul built on respect and consideration because she never even built that with him. Rather, they both rushed into the relationship together without any solid foundation built on that. Within both of the seasons Georgia was building that foundation with Joe and they weren't even dating. He was the first person she trusted with her sister, her daughter, and with her career. She knew he would be there and wanted to be close to him in any sort of way, but with her past and trauma she was too scared to start a romantic relationship with Joe to begin with because she thought she would ruin him before it even started. She loved him but the only one that's keeping her from building that with him is herself. Just like how it was with Marcus towards Ginny he was too scared to love Ginny because he thought he would ruin her and hurt her in every way. He even felt trapped that age was the only good thing that made him happy in his life. He loved her, but the only one who's stopping him from staying in a relationship with her is himself. Ginny and Marcus's relationship is a lot like Joe and Georgia's that's why Marcus and Joe had the moment together when they were sitting in the lobby together talking about the girls because it reflects their feelings and struggles they're having in their relationships as men. In an odd way it was kind of a bonding moment together and an uplifting time Joe needed as well as Marcus to have a clearer mind in the moment. It was like an upcoming moment between both men.
I do agree with u but feel like Joe deserves better than someone who treats him as a second/third option, no matter how she feels for him. I don’t feel like Paul is her hunter necessarily
@@2024happiness_ yes, and no. I do agree Joe does deserve better, but we don't know much of Joe's background. Plus, the only time Georgia ever felt grounded and closure was with Joe, as if she could be herself and not live in a spiral of expectations or fear. When she was with Joe he was the only person she was able to confide in. Paul and Joe were two people that were good examples for her in her chaotic life, but I feel so though for Paul, it would be way too much for him to handle that he would break, however Joe on the other hand I feel he would've been able to withstand it since he was always there when she was at her weakest and at her most chaotic moments in her life. He was supportive of her by letting her be herself with no judgement, yet was a gentle wise person who held up his boundaries firm in not allowing her to run him over, yet loved anyways her by supporting her through it all, like at the wedding with the horses. He wasn't there for Paul, but he was there for Georgia and had no underhanded expectations from her for doing so.
@@Secret-jg1bk I agree with u on all of that. That yeah we don’t know much about Joe (they’ve been delving into joes past recently instead of Paul’s so it makes sense these two will get together). I also agree that Joe is the best choice for Georgia although she doesn’t see it that way (despite what she feels for him) and has taken him granted for a lot of the show. Maybe she’s so scared of happiness or maybe she really likes power security etc. or maybe she really does love Paul way more than she does anyone else. Idk. I also agree that Paul would break. Why? Cause he’s sane. He’s a sane man who has already dealt with a lot of lies from Georgia. Not to mention he forgave her for all of the lies. When he finds out that she lied about MURDERING people that’ll be the nail in the relationship mostly cause it’s something so big to hide from someone when you’re MARRIED. It’ll make him feel like he doesn’t know her at all. That’s heartbreaking tbh, for Paul and Georgia both, but mostly paul. They’re not gonna last fs. They’re better as business partners and friends. And trust me i love Georgia. I really do. I really wish she could’ve had her knight in shining armour moment life with Paul. I rooted for them so much but when she put Tom out of his misery I just didn’t understand why? Maybe it was a way to self sabotage cause that time she thought she was leaving. to think she threw all of her stable life away makes me sure her ending toms life (I wouldn’t call it a m*rder) was her way of self destructing. In the end she is someone who ended 3 people’s lives. All of them seem justified but she isn’t what Paul or Joe deserve (but for different reasons as explained above). Thanks for the introspection!
@@2024happiness_ thank you for your clear comment, and I agree with you with all you've said. I do however want to add that in the series it does show that Georgia did have a chaotic and rough life that she has CPTSD, which her life has never been stable. She's not conformed and used to stability. She's lived most of her life lost and confused having to take action in ways she thought was best to protect her and her children, and sometimes that didn't result in the right decisions and choices she's made along the way. I'm not saying it's right and in no shape and form, but I'm saying that it was a part of her character in an understanding reason on why she did the things she did. She can't accept a stabled live because she's feels unstable and she never knew what stability felt like. There was a time or two when she did, but ended up repeating the same cycle with no safety, protection, and security for herself and her life. She made those wrong decisions because that's what she was taught along the way and that was what she believed to give her the sense of security when she felt threatened and scared. She needs someone that she can be herself with and grow in as well give her a sense of security and allow her to see her wrong actions to take accountability for then by doing what's right for herself, others, and her children.
@@Secret-jg1bk 100% spot on. Also I’ll argue that if we’re comparing Joe and Georgia and Ginny and Marcus I’d say that Marcus is Georgia in this case. Self destructive because of the trauma. What do u think?
I like ginny i understand why ppl didn’t like her but her brat nature in season 1 because she didn’t have stability growing up and maybe she didn’t want her mom as a friend idk but season 2 i relate to her teen personality
They should have ended it with Georgia not killing Tom (such a weird plottwist in my opinion) but Jesse discovering something about her (what can get her in jail) with a iconic final sentence. Not ruining her wedding. Oh and of course, it should have been a BARN WEDDING.
Character conclusion: Ginny: Bitchy, but had some Character Development. Georgia: Flawed, but an absolute Queen Max: Dramatic, but also had good character development. Marcus: So much funnier and less creepy this season. Glad he's getting help. Abby: Ffs this girl needs more attention! She's by far the most relatable and real character on the show. Norah: She doesnt really have much screentime. They could expand on her relationship with Jordan. Paul: Imo hes the best for Georgia. And he's so patient for staying w her even after everything she told him. Zion: Not the best dad for not being that involved before, but he loves Ginny and treats Austin like his own. Ellen: Queen. Get her a vacation lol Clint: Best dad on the show. So adorable and wise at the same time lol Joe: We stan this King, but get him out of this thing w Cynthia lol shes like 15 years older. And fuck you to: Zion's parents, the Detective, Kenny's ex wife, Georgia's parents, Samantha, Press and S1 Hunter for traumatising me from cringe
Yasss im right on time for your commentary
YOUR SO AMAZING this was so intresting to watch and I agree with almost all the things you said. So exited for season 3!!!
19:49 Did NOT expect that singing! 😂😂😂 Love that song tho!
they way i just rewatched your season 1 video like 2 hours ago thinking abt how much i wanted your opinion on season 2
I haven't seen this show at all but I enjoy hearing your commentary tbh Awesome channel and glad to be a new subscriber
Loving your videos! Cant wait for more💕
This is very well informed and I like hearing your commentary explaining the issues it well done
Thanks love 💕 🐇
Your videos are my dopamine 💗
You need to be on the writers team 😂they clearly need it
The actor that plays Gil actually has a twin brother named Shawn Ashmore who is the actor that plays Iceman in the X-men film series 😅
i loved this season sm. it was sm better, i loved ginny and marcus
I agree. I was rooting for Ginny so much more this season
5:38 I 100% agree with this but sometimes I forget how different kids and life styles are in some countries, were I live kids in elementary drive motorcycles but the four wheelers, by the time they are in junior high we have our own motorcycle (two wheels and four wheels) to drive anywhere especially school and high school it is necessary for kids to have at least a moto or car
Lol the Mary to her Robyn lol 😂😂 I love it.
Not sure if anyone caught this but Gil is played by “iceman’s “ ( from the first X-men movie) twin brother. I never knew he had a twin but yea he does. Also his twin played the brother in Locke and key
Can you talk about heartbreak high? I just finished it and although it wasn’t perfect, there was amazing representation of so many communities and issues around s*x and relationships!
Finally a good honest review channel 😂 love your videos!❤
Thanks love! Glad you’re enjoying 💕🐇
Gil and Marcus were both on Locke n Key which I loved
oh thank god you’re back, I am not watching this dumpster fire by myself lmao you did excellent with this, god I wish the show would hire you, because they stay telling not SHOWING, which is so annoying lmao! thank you!
Lissette!! Heyyyy! 💕 I would love to write for them. They need to hit me up so we can get these storylines right lol
now this is irrelevant but the scene where Joe said her outfit was “very Hot Topic” and she looked confused had me pissed cuz Ginny literally wore a shirt they sell at Hot Topic when MANG was back together…💀 they try making Ginny alternative many times to show her feelings but it actually irks me (as an alternative person). It feels like theyre trying so hard to make her “different”, ESPECIALLY with the blue hair and then she got rid of it and said “i’m over it” like damn okay. Silver is probably the most well dressed and screams alt and i’m living for it.
I've only seen two videos of yours, but I've already hit that subscribe button! I really like your content, calming voice and relatable opinions - keep going!
Thank you love! Welcome! 🐇💕
Same here! 😂
Im so happy i found this channel before its viral
been waiting for thisss!!!
Bruh, it's her singing People when talking about Marcus's depression for meeee😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 cuz I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching this show lmaooo
2:06 had me 🫢 but like so true girl 🥲
Love Georgia being over the top, watching for her
Her story was exciting to watch this season for sure.
Ah, and I was fine with Joe's relationship of convenience. I mean, it wasn't a pairing you'd root for, but it was good for both of them, and kind of refreshing to see the characters acknowledge, that their affair wasn't a great love story, served its purpose and now back to friends.
Yess thank you i don't get ginny acting like it's her right to know everything about her mom
Especially with Gil like it’s going to be harder for her to tell that story
"...being a content creater, my time is stretched.." girl you haven't posted in a long time. Love you tho, missed your monologue ;)
I’m literally at work right now. 😫 MISSED YOU GUYSSSSS
@@TheBlushBunny 😭😭😭 WE MISSED YOU TOOO
While I was extremely annoyed that Marcus broke up with Ginny, I’m not here for yall blasting him for having a severe depression episode. Did y’all forget that he was depressed over his best friend killing himself last season? And he had barely gotten over it when he met ginny. What we need to talk about is how Ginny is suddenly burning herself at every minor inconvenience like?
Immediately Liking this video based on the first way you say Ginnnnny and Georgiaaa 😂😂😂
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i grew up with a very traumatized mother, i never wanted or needed to know everything abt her.
Did your mother kill someone though? The only reason Ginny wanted to know is because the detective told her that her mother supposedly killed someone
This season did someone touch onto mental health
"Polyester skin" 🤣🤣
I'm in high school and almost every boy in my class has a motorbike lol
I watched both your videos on Ginny and Georgia, and absolutely loved it. However, somethings I'd like to point out from both videos, 1. Norah and Abby didn’t speak up for Ginny at the store because, firstly I think, they are teenagers. They got scared. They weren’t fully on board with having Ginny as their group member. They didn’t think of her as that kind of friend. She was just someone Max admired. They didn’t have a bond where they would stand up for eachother when they themselves having stolen goods inside their bags and sleeves. They could've made a proper apology later after they became MANG, but well. 2. I really disliked how Ginny in S1. And specially when she mailed those letters to Gil. I can guess that it is very difficult to find out that your mom killed a person. It's natural to feel overwhelmed and scared. But YOU KNOW WHY SHE DID THAT. Before sending out letters to someone maybe, ask her about it? Have a fight, scream and shout. But don't send out letters to prison. 3. I loved how we explored Ginny's struggle in this season and it gave all of us a better understanding of her character. 4. Going to defend Georgia a whole lot. Georgia isn’t a perfect mom, she said it herself. But she did what she felt was right at that age. She was abused by her parents/step parents her entire childhood. She escaped and the first person she relied on taught her to sting. She was a kid who had nothing, and when she got pregnant she became responsible for another kid. She still fights with her daughter like a teenager because she didn’t get to be one. She didn’t have a care free life like she did in wellsberry. She hated therapy because she grew up fighting, outwitting people for herself and her daughter. She believes therapy is for weak people because she was once weak and she didn’t come this far by talking with other people that she had a hard life. Everyone is ignoring Georgia’s character development in this therapy episode. She realized Ginnys perspective, she realized not everything she did, helped Ginny. And she was sorry, she acknowledged that vulnerability is Ginny's super power. Georgia needs therapy herself. She isn’t a character you look up to. But she is a character you need to understand. And that's why I love her.
I LOVE THIS. Great point of view 👏🏾
As an X-Men fan it really irked me when you said Austins dad played bobby but it was really the actors twin brother that played bobby
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watching her mom find out hit something so personal for me I just could not finish the season
6:52 I think it’s an age thing. Like to me Ginny is thinking that her mom wants all her secrets but is king m keeping stuff from her. Like that logically makes no sense cuz Georgia is the _adult_ but I kinda get it if I think like a teen.
idk maybe it’s because i’m a cusper, 96 baby. I find the racial things of the show to be very realistic . Talking about jack and hill and the green bean casserole, or even having brisha be the more accepting character mimics mine and most of my friends experiences to a T. Also with Georgia being cool with one thing but not another also seems very realistic to me because that’s how my friends parents are, and even my parents in a way. I do notice Gen Z feels very different on these topics though , i wonder if the generation difference is a factor . Most Gen Z reviews i see consider things that seem socially conscious to me as “race baiting” . Is it that yall see race as secondary to things like class so you all want it less talked about? I really wanna understand this and why it’s so different for millennials and generations before.
Tbh I want a spin-off with marcus...
Me: the actor who plays Ginny's dad is really cute Blush Bunny two seconds later: Ginny's FINE ASS daddy
And is! 😂😂😂
17:11 Austin's dad isn't actually ice man. He's ice man's twin who's also an actor
05:36 irrelevant side note lmao, but around the world, especially in europe in my experience, it’s normal and even common for teens to have motorbikes. of course they aren’t high-level motorbikes, but they can still be bought by teens: i live in italy and a lot of my sort-of-peers have them as you can get them only when you turn 16
Georgia tried everything to protect their kids, but she chose very wrong ways. I couldn't understand why she didn't took some help from Ginny's grandparents. Anyways can't hate this show. I love it so much.
SORRY POLYESTER SKIN BAHAHAHAHA
I liked Ginny of season 2. In season 1 she came of annoying to everyone mostly because We didn't really get to know openly about what Ginny was for real suffering from. This season made me sympathize with Ginny a lot and i loved the fact that both Ginny and Georgia understood each other at the end of the season. But problem will definitely arise in the next season when Ginny will get to know that Georgia murdered Tom. Edit: i fcking hated zion's mom in every scene she was in. She was being too much btchy i swear.
I hate a lot of people despise Ginny for basically acting like a teenager but glorify and defend Georgia I get why she killed Kenny but I don’t blame Ginny for running away. I like Georgia but she’s so manipulative and narcissistic it’s insane and Ginny has her issues but not as bad as Georgia.
I love her little crush on Ginny's dad