As I always tried to teach my students: it is infinitely preferable to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground.
@Chris.Davies2 ай бұрын
ahhh, but nearly as exciting!
@gerrys6265Ай бұрын
My instructor repeatedly told me this same thing. Wise words.
@zippythinginventionАй бұрын
I fly RC and it’s the same mantra, saved many models by simply choosing not to fly when the conditions look sketchy
@RobR38610 күн бұрын
@@RobR386 yes, exactly the same thing....
@mikestephens53468 күн бұрын
well it's often much easier to grant the latter wish
@koosnaamloos42915 күн бұрын
This video brought back memories of a flight I had and a lesson mother nature taught me about the science of rising air :). Towing on the Prairies of Alberta, Canada. I had just bought my first vario and got into a thermal at about 800 ft. AGL. My vario showed 400fpm as I entered the thermal. I remember thinking, wow, this is like cheating. I circled trying to find the core of the thermal... 400 became 700fpm, then 1000. At 1400fpm I thought, wow, I'm going to make it to cloudbase for the first time. As I made it to cloudbase, my vario was screaming 1500fpm. I decided I would circle one more time just to see and feel the wisps of cloud. Of course it was the middle of july and approximately 80 degrees on the ground. That one more circle, put me into the cloud. I looked down to see the ground and noticed that their was Sleet on the knuckles of my gloves. I decided it was time to get the hell out of there and dove to the VNE speed of my Sport 2. (70mph) I looked over at my vario and it was reading 400fpm UP. It took a few very long seconds to realise what was going on. Of course I questioned my vario's accuracy. Hell i was diving at 70mph, how could I still be going up! Here's the best part. My mind flashed back to 6 months earlier sitting on the toilet, reading the latest Hang glider magazine...specifically, the article on what to do if you get stuck in cloud suck! So the solution was super simple. Instead of trying to dive out of the thermal and creating all that lift with the extra speed I was pouring on to get away. I put my glider into a very high bank angle side slip and spiraled down away from the "Thermals" that were now converging to start forming a thunderstorm. Once free of the good lords grip... I went on to the see the longest cloud street I have ever witnessed. Made a 35 mile cross country flight that day with my new found knowledge. I will remember the sleet on the front of my gloves as long as I live. Thank you for sharing your video and I am so glad you had a flight to remember... with a happy outcome :) All the best, warm winds and no sink! S.C.
@grub19622 ай бұрын
😮😮 what a story! Reminds me of a sailplane guy who told me one of the same, everywhere he looked the cloud base was below him due to the dished upward base he was sucked into. He popped dive brakes and went pure vertical at Vne. As that particular sailplane was actually designed to perform that maneuver. Haha.
@EllipsisAircraft2 ай бұрын
Wow, wonder why this didn’t work for him. What were you flying.
@fredread92162 ай бұрын
Did you boil to death when you landed? How is it even possible for it to be that hot?
@DrAElemayo2 ай бұрын
I hate cloud suck, felt it a few times when I didn't want to and the same thing happened to me. Thanks for the advise about high bank angle side slip, I will practice that.
@kalbic2 ай бұрын
@@DrAElemayo80 degrees Fahrenheit.... not Celsius
@Dude87182 ай бұрын
You could see that storm very clearly and you chose to go up.....
@paulmahy2 ай бұрын
And wouldn’t have made it back down if that storm had been moving in a different direction.
@pjnj0422 ай бұрын
He went way overboard! It's an outrage!!!!
@yongyea41472 ай бұрын
That’s my point of view
@MrBojunga2 ай бұрын
He showed off in front of a female student. That’s all there is to it.
@garrl0072 ай бұрын
😮😮😢@@pjnj042
@jimthurman25712 ай бұрын
A major part of learning to fly certified aircraft is studying meteorology and knowing when not to fly, especially if you’re taking passengers.
@humnpwr2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. First 5 seconds of the video I was thinking that looks like some really active cloud formations in the area. Plus with that much rising air, it's also falling somewhere too.
@flutetubamorg17 күн бұрын
Literally from the very first frame of the flight portion of this video and seeing the storm behind you, I knew this was going to be a wild ride. As a private pilot, we are taught to stay at least 20 miles away from thunderstorms. So to fly that close to a thunderstorm in a rinky dink hang glider is a bit crazy. And then to turn back toward the storm and get sucked up a second time was even more cray-cray.
@testtest-lc4xz2 ай бұрын
It's all according to plan when you want to show off for the young hot student and create a "life and death situation" to help get in her pants.
@Maintenance_Mark2 ай бұрын
I mean how else does one get KZhead clicks right? I'm surprised a trainer would choose to take their student up in this weather...
@davindercАй бұрын
I would love to hear the actual audio instead of the music
@danny-li6io2 ай бұрын
On her way home she Goggled “Drone Flying for Beginners.”😊
@andrewbeattieRAB2 ай бұрын
Next time, just look for lift. Whenever I do, all I find is sink.
@adventureswitharizonaart61173 ай бұрын
🤣
@jameswagstaff19622 ай бұрын
😂
@marksaul22812 ай бұрын
Story of my life.....
@yongyea41472 ай бұрын
I wash dishes for a living. Happily. 😊
@yongyea41472 ай бұрын
@@yongyea4147 lmao
@heraclitus61002 ай бұрын
I'm actually stuck in an updraft right now, but the 5G signal is great. Wish me luck!
@mulletover3832Ай бұрын
down yet?
@recursiveidentity5 күн бұрын
@@recursiveidentity nope
@mulletover38325 күн бұрын
My instructor always said "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the sky than it is to be in the sky wishing you were on the ground."
@zippythinginventionАй бұрын
He also lucked out with such a calm passenger. She did great too!
@onebridge723122 күн бұрын
My instructor got sucked into a cloud at 17,000 feet and came out at 26,000 no oxygen glider covered in ice.. landed in a box canyon in a spiral when he came out. Lucky to have survived that one!
@coryturner91402 ай бұрын
Time to look for a qualified instructor
@humnpwr2 ай бұрын
@@humnpwr he was more than qualified. He started flying in the 70’s was a US hang gliding association board member and set distance records. You’ve obviously never flown in big air out west in the mountains.
@coryturner91402 ай бұрын
@@coryturner9140I was already a private pilot in the 60’s and also an honorary member of United States hangliders association in Ontario with an honorary mountain flying certificate. As I introduced the sport in Blue Mountain Collingwood in early 70’s 😂😂😂
@humnpwr2 ай бұрын
@@coryturner9140 I’ve had a pilot license since the 60’s. Very important is to check the weather before you fly. Stay at least 15 nm away from thunderstorms, anvil tops. They will shred an airliner to pieces in seconds and your Instructor allowed himself to be drawn up inside one??? I was given an honorary mountain flying license and membership to The United States Hang Gliding Association in early 70’s for introducing the sport in Ontario Canada.
@humnpwr2 ай бұрын
@@humnpwr the only way to set distance records is to fly on the edge when the cumulus clouds are popping… when the mountain tops are over 10,000 feet the air gets big fast… you don’t even need clouds to make for a dangerous situation. You get katabatic winds in the evening at the same location and the whole valley is going up during the glassoff period and we’ve had people stuck at 11,000 ft after the sun has set…king mountain Idaho is a well known big air location…
@coryturner91402 ай бұрын
I'm a glider pilot and would not have thought that the Rogallo wing would have been that good in a thermal. Glad you had a safe landing. I learned the physics of a large CU cloud. I was flying a 1-26 and ended up in the cloud, entering at cloudbase. The convection currents inside this cloud drew me in, gaining some altitude. I quickly responded and leveled by sense, then nosed down, finally punching through the cloudbase. Cumulonimbus clouds, though, have a hell of a lot of energy and getting sucked up in one can run you up thousands of feet.
@dennisk58182 ай бұрын
Every bad end starts by bad decission. You are luck that it ends with smile. Next time dońt go to fly with thunderstorm on horizon.
@Dzordzikk2 ай бұрын
Flying off a hill top with 6 others here in New Zealand quite a few years back. The other 6 had 5min plummets, scratching around for lift. I had over an hour almost vertical in my harness, with the bar as far back as I could get it. Finally spat me out at 9000ft. Scary!
@rangirua12 ай бұрын
Which hill top in nz ?
@obee1kanobeeАй бұрын
@@obee1kanobeeTapawera. Out of Nelson
@rangirua1Ай бұрын
Lord I hope I never have to stand on my control bar to get back down.
@dominodoggy110 күн бұрын
This is incredible. Thanks for sharing. This serves as a good lesson as to how dangerously strong and large lift can get.
@mbboisvert7 ай бұрын
Had it happen back in the early 90s. It is amazing how fast the excitement of great I am going up turns to, oh shit I am still going up. Actually thought about cutting the hang loop and using the reserve or breaking the glider. That Pac Air was stronger than I ever knew. Great job staying calm and keeping the student calm as well.
@ULFLYER52 ай бұрын
don't use the reserve when in that aircurrent >_
@particleconfig.89352 ай бұрын
@@particleconfig.8935 Read my whole post.
@ULFLYER52 ай бұрын
1970'S SEAGULL PILOT HERE..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 THE PHRASE DONT MESS WITH MOTHER NATURE, COMES TO MIND. (also from the 1970's!!) 👏👏👏💪 hanging your leg over the cross bar was CLASSIC! 😉
@garystillman27242 ай бұрын
Interesting problem to have. I remember reading an account about two sailplane pilots who jumped out of it as it was getting sucked higher. One opened his chute when he cleared the cloud, the other when he was only a thousand feet. The first one spent the next hour or so going up and down. Frozen from the cold and blacking out with the altitude. He had a frightening day.
@SimonAmazingClarke2 ай бұрын
What happened to the sailplane?
@HGAviator2 ай бұрын
@@HGAviator They parachuted out of is and lost sight of if. Not a clue if the account mentioned it.
@SimonAmazingClarke2 ай бұрын
Who would have thought, pointing the nose down would make it go down.
@Raeodor5 күн бұрын
Great job keeping out of that. I'm PG pilot and got sucked into an OD storm cell once. It was the single scariest experience of my adult life. 11 m/s lift in sopping wet rain and turbulence you wouldn't believe. I ended up stalling and back flying down and out 3000ft before I was out of the white room and got to safety. Just wild
@jpcab94602 ай бұрын
That sounds way worse than my experience. I must say though, big ears didn't do nothing with my old wing. My new one has reduced line count so might be nearly as good as a stall. Glad to hear you survived!
@sandrainthesky10112 ай бұрын
@@sandrainthesky1011 Big ear (or full assymetric collapse) on one side and spiral on the other. It's a great method to descend fast without the G forces of a normal spiral dive.
@DrAElemayo2 ай бұрын
another pilot says collapse your frontal by pulling A in controlled manner
@ariffbasri2 ай бұрын
Anyone who's flown a small aircraft knows what those puffy clouds you're flying under mean on humid summer days. A Cessna 152 could take constant pitch and throttle control to reasonably stay at the designated altitude. Some days were *bumpy*. I can't fathom deciding to take to the air and then stay up with a big squall line clearly visible on a hang glider. Seeing anything like that in the distance meant, "we're getting away from that".
@dougelick839713 күн бұрын
He’s like “hey, can you help me pull the bar in” 😂
@justinf13438 ай бұрын
Not only did the instructor get them outta a terrible situation, his complacent decision to continue his lolly-gagging around the thunderstorm allowed him to further boast of his horrific entanglement with sure death by getting them both back into that same stupid problem he didn't think about before subjecting this poor student into death-defying threats. Great job Jr. Now heres your lawsuit.
@user-bh8bo5hh9o16 күн бұрын
I liked this video a lot; as a PG pilot I've always thought you can just yank the bar and honk downwards at a 40 degree angle at 90km/hr. I fly tandem too and I guess a hangi tandem is a bit of a truck, meant to fly stable and damped. Kudos to miss Brooke smiling all the time! All the best, fly free my friend.
@robertzeeland6 ай бұрын
Tandems are indeed too stable in pitch. Several luff lines from the king post to the trailing edge hold it up at speed, pitching up the glider. The overall design is not made for steep dives. In his situation I'd try both legs over the bar, hands on nose wire, asking for the passenger's help in doing the same.
@ericoschmitt3 ай бұрын
You see this is why we should the the people who made the X-29 to design ultralights.
@petersmythe646210 күн бұрын
At the beginning of the video you mentioned the decision to fly was based on beautiful clear blue skies above you! Sorry, but I don't see ANY blue sky anywhere in your video, only overcast skies. Your poor pilot decision-making created this whole incident and it could have been avoided.
@GlennD0072 ай бұрын
Wild ride for sure ! ❤
@ChrisJewell73337 ай бұрын
dark clouds: let's go flying.. can't be that bad. :) At least you weren't under a paraglider. Also there I learnt: getting away is the way, not getting down. Because you won't make it down without getting away first..
@dernicolas62812 ай бұрын
Why would a Paraglider have been worse? I don't know much about hang glider but paraglider have multiple ways to loose hight fast if needed. Accelerated Big Ears , Spiral Decent or B Stall. I never saw a Glider reduce its wingspan at will.
@matthiaswindrich96972 ай бұрын
@@matthiaswindrich9697 only big ears get you moving away. And you're far slower than a hangglider. I've done all maneuvers in trainings but their decent rate is too slow to efficiently fight a cloud. Yes, also the spiral.. wouldn't want to try spiralling in an emergency situation. Best is to avoid. Really. I've pulled rather big ears for some 10- 15 minutes already, it's not relaxing if you have to come down.
@dernicolas62812 ай бұрын
@@matthiaswindrich9697 If you can get a 20m/s spiral dive (70km/h without forward speed), you would not last more than a couple seconds. Maybe a minute. This is the fastest way to get down. Big ears will get you around 3-5m/s sink. B-stall ca 10m/s with no forward speed. Maybe throwing the reserve? That'll get you again 5m/s. Thunder storms can generate cloud suck with 100km/h or more, Inside the cloud it can reach over 200km/h. Thats terminal velocity for human bodies.
@instrumentenfreak2 ай бұрын
@@instrumentenfreakyea - though I've never reached that kind of velocity with a b-stall on my paraglider.. not saying it couldn't be possible. Also check in the video how long the hangglider needed to escape..
@dernicolas62812 ай бұрын
@@dernicolas6281we have to find the best way and I want to know the descent rate of a 50% collapse with a spiral on the opposite side of the collapse. Or also just a very deep stall (not backfly) But yes, much better to avoid the situation!
@aurelg33672 ай бұрын
Couldn't think of a better music theme to this than Roblox! 👍
@craiganthony65327 күн бұрын
That would have been a serious no go for most certified pilots. You really need to learn a bit about aviation weather, and think of your passenger before you go up. Maybe you're willing to take the risk, but your passenger isn't informed and can't make an informed decision. You're lucky. This one ended well. Don't go up with a passenger in conditions like that again. It may not end so well.
@ChompchompyerdedАй бұрын
Although the decision to fly that day was questionable in hindsight, kudos to the instructor for keeping a level head in the situation. He got them out safe, live and learn. Well done.
@jack-o_lantern10 күн бұрын
Wow, you definitely got some extra air time out of that flight, glad it worked out👍 In the 80s I fought a thunderstorm thermal above Mingus Mountain in Arizona and it sucked me up to 11.500 before I got out to the S/E but landing sites in the forest are a different story. I’m still alive and I’m glad you both are too👍
@AZAce10642 ай бұрын
Non flyer here. If the updraft was due to moisture being drawn up from the delta, why would you not head inland, away from the river? Perhaps I'm missing something here....
@murrayedington2 ай бұрын
Air humidity comes from land too. The storm cloud just sucks whatever air is under it, it's too powerful for the type of ground to matter.
@DrAElemayo2 ай бұрын
Just before they got airborne black storm clouds can be seen on the background .Taking off was just a very bad decision .
@Mauriciovideomaker2 ай бұрын
Es una experiencia inolvidable... Yo tuve una parecida con una Rumour2 un verano sobre la Muela de Alarilla. En un día de mucho calor, ascendí 500 m. en térmica, y de pronto entré en una zona de fuerte viento y ascenso. Me era imposible bajar, y solo picando a tope conseguía limitar la subida a un +2 m/s; pero era muy cansado y no dejaba de subir y retroceder a pesar de ir a 80-90 km/h. Llegó un momento en que empecé a sentir un frio intensísimo, y se me quedaban los guantes pegados en la barra de control al instante, como me costaba despegarlos sujeté la barra por la goma que la cubría en las curvas. También iba en mangas de camiseta y mi nariz era como una fuente continua de agua. Poco a poco me llevaba hacia atrás porque no aguantaba picando tanto tiempo. Se me ocurrió derivar hacia un lado, y al fin encontré una zona donde la intensidad bajaba y podía descender. Al llegar a 500 m el viento de pronto cesó y el calor intenso me subió rápidamente la temperatura. Había pillado una onda bastante violenta procedente de la sierra, a unos 50 km. Por debajo de 500 m sólo se podía ascender con térmica y era difícil pillar alguna. Ese día solo otra ala lo consiguió y le pasó lo mismo que a mi, pero era una Rumour pequeña y tuvo muchas menos dificultades que yo, que iba con un ala bastante grande en el límite de mi peso. En otra ocasión pillé onda en el mismo sitio, pero esa fue mucho más suave y mucha gente la cogió sin problemas. Es realmente angustioso ver que vas a una situación cada vez peor y sin poder evitarlo... Recomiendo en estas situaciones lo que hice, derivar de lado; o dejarse llevar hacia atrás si hay recogida( yo no la tenía ), pero dudo que se dejara de ascender; y pasar de 35 o 40 ºC a 0ºC con sensación térmica de -5 o -10 ºC y descendiendo... puede llegar a ser mortal( sobre todo si se va en pantalón y manga corta( menos mal que iba con guantes ), por que la onda puede subir mucho e ir aumentando la velocidad a medida que se sube. Me alegro que todo fuera bien. Me viene a la memoria un Campeonato que se hizo en Como, Italia, donde varios pilotos murieron al ser absorbidos por un cumulo nimbo. También han palmado así pilotos de planeador. Saludos
@HJESUH2 ай бұрын
What a fantastic way to launch and land. Not seen this before. Love it. Great times.
@al3k10 күн бұрын
I'm looking at the sky and I'm seeing a no flying day ! Customer got her money bet she didn't think she was going to 16 thousand ft mind pmsl 🤣 lucky people
@ThomasDoubting5 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention they had to be getting pretty cold, since not dressed for the altitude.
@paulmadruga97862 ай бұрын
Been there done that stuck in a climbing dive. Just when you think that you’ve conquered it and ready to land, bang, up to the same stupid altitude that on a fine day would be a sky out but today even the maize leaves from the farmer’s fields are at cloud base!
@Birdman9532 ай бұрын
There is a story from yesteryear, of a bunch of pilots in Italy flying a site at the N end of a lake (Como?) in Italy on a sunny, blue-sky day, in the 80's(?). A fast system came up the lake and a big Cu popped over the site, which rapidly developed into a CuNim with the associated massive lift. Some were able to land, but a number were sucked up into the cloud, and as I recall, like about six were found frozen solid miles downwind later and some had harrowing tales. I have been flying since 1972 and I cannot remember the details, but perhaps someone else recalls this. I could tell you a few stories of my own experiences. File under: Tandems I had to stand on the control bar, WITH the student.
@BrilliantDesignOnline2 ай бұрын
Damn, that looks dangerous and fun- right up my alley!
@paulh75892 ай бұрын
Happy ending! phew that was tense. Theres noting quite like being up in the air when you really want to be on the ground, its not a great feeling, I've had it a few times. Nice to see a water landing, Ive not seen one before x
@vicky_webcatuk2 ай бұрын
but I have to say I LOVE how by the end of the video your student was right up there flying on the bar with you instead of tandeming behind you. What a way to learn!
@dominodoggy110 күн бұрын
One thing is certain....that lady will NEVER try hang gliding again...
@ecoturismovalle15707 ай бұрын
It said she was a pilot in training and seemed to handle it with surprisingly little fear... I have no Idea why you would think this. You could be right but I doubt it.
@cptvanier2 ай бұрын
She was clueless. She will fly and become a pilot. Should she? Not sure.
@UTAH1002 ай бұрын
@@UTAH100 hopefully!!
@ecoturismovalle15702 ай бұрын
@ismovalle1570 Some people are simply not meant for certain things. Given her completely aloofness, I don't think she has the requisite mindset of a sober pilot. She would literally smile her way into the ground. I did not see any neural protective connections firing. At crisis time, one needs to turn off the smile; stop talking and posing for instagram and focus on critical task management. Some things cannot be trained. You have to have a pilots instinct. She likely has other skills like shopping and posting online. Being a pilot is not her strength. I could be wrong but I honestly don't think she learned a thing. I think she immediately went online and posted this online for views. She was probalby like OMG- it was amazing. My instructor is the best! OMG- let's grab some Starbucks and go shopping. I can't wait to get my hang gliding pilots license. God help us all. From what I have seen, that will likely not end well for her. Notice a pattern? kzhead.info/sun/oK-ffZiIgoKjqa8/bejne.html&ab_channel=PilotDebrief
@UTAH1002 ай бұрын
@@UTAH100 Please take your sexism elsewhere. This wasn't her mistake. It was fully the instructor's. There wasn't anything she could do as she was literally the passenger learning from the instructor. I bet she's a better pilot than you are.
@DrAElemayo2 ай бұрын
I could feel the Adrenaline from my sofa.. the last thing I would have expected is a problem getting that flying raft out of the sky.. Way too cool 😎
@WebenHad11 күн бұрын
Weather forecasts? Pre-flight briefing?
@KeithWhittingham2 ай бұрын
He's an experienced flight instructor, he doesn't need those things
@DrAElemayo2 ай бұрын
The black horizon!!!
@dougelick839713 күн бұрын
You are a BOSS !
@CaptainMedoc8 ай бұрын
Oooh yes; had this situation too in my hanggliding days; first, you enjoy the thermals, but this flips quite quickly when you are 2000 meters above the landing zone and it still goes only up 😖
@tangiblewaves35812 ай бұрын
As a glide pilot I am intrigued by where the first thermals came from (before cloud suck). You are over a mega river with forests along the banks. Forests tend to give off lift late in the day and Grey clouds build up late in the day. I am assuming that those Forests were super hot during the day and this flight occured late in the day. . Make me curious about install remote thermometers in the forest areas.
@markplain25552 ай бұрын
Did you have an airspeed indicator? If not, how did you know your airspeed relative to the wing's redline? What I see in the video looks like a handheld GPS unit to me. Glad you both survived unharmed! Thanks for sharing.
@jwoodyr12 ай бұрын
I was a Tandem pilot for years. Your passenger was the best!!!!!
@cantaldo2 ай бұрын
Deep respect for that girl. she was still in good mood after all of this!
@safurianКүн бұрын
I went for a demo ride in a glider. We were at 2000 feet and caught a thermal up to cloud base at 4500. It was a hot summer day in Tennesse with beautiful fluffy white clouds mixed with blue sky. There was no wind on the ground at the runway. In a very short time we went from 2000 feet to 4500 feet. I was amazed that the updraft was that strong. I estimated the combined weight of the glider, the pilot and myself to be well over 1000 pounds.
@lw2163162 ай бұрын
I got stuck going up at the point where I was tired and needed to land. Quite scary. It was just before sundown and so time was limited. I don't know how I knew to do this, but I put the glider into a steep turn that was not coordinated. It took a while, but I was able to spiral out of the lift.
@meFatuations2 ай бұрын
Updrafts are no joke, glad you made it back down safely. I bet you were exhausted after that one!
@dustintravis87912 ай бұрын
I once flew in the Alps on a hangglider competition when similar thing happened - it was getting dark and there was lift everywhere, The only - and right solution was to abandon the competition and fly as fast as possible (bar at the knees) to where there was the most light. You don't want to spiral down with that altitude above ground which you usually have when flying in the moutains - you will be too exhausted and you don't want to land when the gusts from the thunderstorm will hit you in the landing pattern. Good thermals always mean there is a risk of local cells, so always keep watching the meteo conditions during flight. Interesting the glider with floats - how do you get ashore with it after landing?
@amstein25stolz92Ай бұрын
That's funny. I think I know the situation he was talking about. I immediately thought about it and thought, "you need to get your knees over the control bar." I read about it back in the 90s. Maybe '93 or so when I was hang gliding. I think the story was in Hang Gliding magazine. Guy was flying in the West. He was caught in something. I don't think it was a thunderstorm, though, but it was a major updraft and the sun was setting (you don't want to fly at night!) and he couldn't get down and he finally got his knees over the control bar to pull it back. The risk with that is you can fall through the control bar and if you do, then you go into a dive that you'll never recover from because you won't be able to get back over the control bar. Probably a lot less risk with a second person who can stay on the back side of the control bar.
@petedavis797015 күн бұрын
Well handled. Calm initiative saved the day.
@mrtracyut2 ай бұрын
PILOT ERROR , NO FLY DAY
@Davemmmason2 ай бұрын
I’m not a flier, how much horizontal distance could you cover (cross country) if that had been your goal, with right clothing, etc?
@wailinburnin2 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me what's happening here? is the air being sucked into the cloud faster than this glider top speed? what happens if you just try to get farther away from the cloud flying straight?
@frapell2 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to put a couple of flaps that could open in the middle of it? In case this Happens, you could descend...
@chrisregister80212 ай бұрын
You had a pile of options from my standpoint. Run Forest run! But, what do I know...
@mattcorley42662 ай бұрын
Wow, very scary. That sucks!! So speeding straight ahead got you down faster than a spiral dive? And I don’t suppose you can spin that craft. I recently saw a video of a woman that got sucked up and dumped out at over something like 37,000 feet! And 50 below zero temps. The only reason she lived was that the temps put her into hibernation and the wing iced up and collapsed. ( a paraglide). She tumbled down quickly and came to wing flying again. She was hospitalized for hyperthermia and fully recovered. Wow. Glad you didn’t have to try THAT.
@fredread92162 ай бұрын
That's sounds amazing. Is there a video? 😂
@jewelleryrecoveryspecialists22 күн бұрын
I've been cloud sucked while thermalling with a powered paraglider. It was like riding a wild bucking bronco. My glider was above me, beside me, behind me and under me. I spotted a bright spot to my left and added full power to advance towards it. I popped out of the cloud about 2500 feet above cloud base. The whole incident was less than 30-40 seconds.
@ticdelarueАй бұрын
I almost lost one of my friends like this, I think he is the person you were thinking about. He was sucked in to a cloud and was covered in ice before his glider broke and he fell though the cloud. when his glider came out of the cloud he was inverted. He also lost his parachute and crashed with the still broken glider. He was lucky to survive! SO NEVER FLY IN CONDISIONS LIKE THAT!
@jonnyueland7790Ай бұрын
Hate to say it but it needs to be said. That was stupid even before the flight. Showing more respect right from the get go would have been wise. I can't believe you looked at that cloud and thought, nah, it's cool.
@banalpedant412 ай бұрын
I’m not a hanglider, what would happen if you at #5:42 reached up and pulled on the central part of frame near the nose whilst pushing bar forward. Would that have given you more power to pitch the nose down ?
@kitesurferlee2 ай бұрын
Cloud suck is pretty wild, happens in planes too! Flying gliders under really strong clouds - its like someone grabs the tail end of your plane and tries to pull you up like its a claw machine.
@LavthefoxАй бұрын
I am glad to hear that you are safe. That sounds like a frightening experience.
@matthewbustos7Ай бұрын
Never seen float glider like that before - well done you managed very well. You only have one option of landing .
@timtaylor1365Ай бұрын
The cloud wasn’t the only thing sucking that day
@DJClintBАй бұрын
What's plan B when things go sideways with a hang glider, do you have a parachute..??
@jb-xc4oh13 күн бұрын
@1:43 so why stay over the water? Wouldn't have had the same up-draft over land, no?
@sterlingarcher196214 күн бұрын
Good thing y'all were wearing those little helmets.
@BoogerEatingDemocratАй бұрын
the gust front winds just by being in the vicinity of that cell don't bear thinking about..
@marco1987warr2 ай бұрын
Hi as a hangglider XC pilot I would recommend standing onto the bar, this will increase your speed a lot. Even more compared what you did. Especially with a biplace glider this is easily possible.
@kj84762 ай бұрын
Excellent pilot! What altitude was the tow release? Loved the pictures at the end.
@user-jm8ep4ts2uАй бұрын
Oh! That magnificient sky!😂
@Artur32372 ай бұрын
Great job and nice play by play. She may be brave but I don't think she fully grasped the gravity of the danger you were both in. For those questioning the decision to fly- sure, it wasn't the best however probalby 99-100 they would be fine. Some calculated risks are part of the game. We hiked Half Dome- slight clouds but we survived. Same weather next day and woman died when it randomly rained and that granite got very slick like ice (on a blue sky day.) Life is unpredictable.
@UTAH1002 ай бұрын
but then again, should she have set a step when that rain started... (anyhow, condolences)
@particleconfig.89352 ай бұрын
Wonder what the lifted index was that day
@utahballoonflights27162 ай бұрын
One time almost 45 years ago, I got trapped in the under belly of an cumelus nimbus with my hangglider. I had to take several stalls and sideslips to ascape it. When I finely came out of it, I was compleately relocated. I had a nerve wereaking landing in a small opening in a woods field. But he story is only recorded in my mind.
@bjornvollheim73032 ай бұрын
Did you learn from this experience?
@jaapsmit19698 күн бұрын
I was like "Oh no, they went in the water?!" Then I realized he has floats. lol
@Worldopain17 күн бұрын
What a gutsy student.
@brucemcnair22 ай бұрын
I'm very new at Hang Giding, but could the Glider have been put into a stall to lose altitude?
@MrTreybones2 ай бұрын
Think of a paper airplane flight. There are three basic (straight flight) patterns it can take. 1. Smooth straight flight (balanced front to back). 2. Diving flight (weight is moved forward). 3. Stalling flight (weight is too far back). This stalling flight has a repetitive swooping pattern (meaning several peaks and curved valleys). Each peak is a stall. After a stall, it dives, picks up speed and then starts to climb because there is too much lift. But in climbing it loses speed and then "oops, too slow" and then it stalls, drops the nose and then starts picking up speed again, repeating the whole process. If you move weight to the front of the paper airplane (like a paper clip or two) you can make the airplane stop stalling and dive faster. A paper airplane made to dive will always get to the ground faster than one than one that has a repetitive stalling flight pattern. Now put your paper airplane in a huge vacuum where the air moving upward goes faster than the airplane has the ability to go down. This pilot is trying to move as much weight forward as possible to dive as fast as possible. I hope that makes sense. Also, one more very important thing to consider. Speed equals control. If you have no speed you have no control. No control equals no choices until you gain speed again.
@daviddonoho2 ай бұрын
Wow, I remember watching this at your Lake City house with the "Flying Gypsies" 😜
@Ryan-yo4dg2 жыл бұрын
Very educational! I guess the lesson to be learned is not to try to get down but rather to get away, then down. Thanks for posting!
@OPNURISYDER2 ай бұрын
Bravo d'un ancien pilote de deltaplane des années 80...👍🙌 J'ai vécu une fois un début d'aspiration par un cumulonimbus et c'est très stressant...🙁
@_occupations2 ай бұрын
Lesson learned that young lady will thank you for it if she gets in the situation ever on her own or she might become an instructor great fly ing ❤
@user-xu7qi8vs6x2 ай бұрын
Great job getting back safe!
@paramotorIRLАй бұрын
I have had to climb out on the front wires and push the control bar with my feet behind me.
@LeFraudHasChokedInSIXFinals2 ай бұрын
Good thing there was no turbulence.
@zopilotegalaz11282 ай бұрын
In Greece we say. Finally good, all good. A lucky day, which fills the bag of experience.
@odysseus5562 ай бұрын
Epic stuff. Glad you got away safe. That student got her money's worth on that one!
@SteveSalisbury2 ай бұрын
she paid to get endangered, cool
@PhilippeLarcher2 ай бұрын
I think I would have thrown in a 360 at the foot part to see my options, and then ran off to the right over the flats, so I was not running straight down the road with it chasing me; at least that way you could have 45'ed and let it pass a bit to your left. Pulled in that much, even with the lift, you should have been at least 35 mph, which on a diagonal, should have moved you from directly in front of it, even though you would have had to call for a ride from the farmer's field 20 miles inland. Very sad, lift when you don't want it, and no lift when you do want it. But hey, your passenger had a great attitude and got a nice LONG flight for just a flat land tow up. Hopefully she gave you a tip in the form of some clean shorts. Did you really land 300 yards offshore and make Brooke tow you back into land? Big kudos to Brooke for the superior attitude.
@BrilliantDesignOnline2 ай бұрын
Also VERY very keen on knowing whether one of you has ever experienced static loads there up under or within the clouds? Beam me up Scotty!
@particleconfig.89352 ай бұрын
In the sake of selfie 🤳 we are going to die
@minermann61Ай бұрын
Maybe they can design a wing where you can open a window of sorts to reduce the lift.
As I always tried to teach my students: it is infinitely preferable to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground.
ahhh, but nearly as exciting!
My instructor repeatedly told me this same thing. Wise words.
I fly RC and it’s the same mantra, saved many models by simply choosing not to fly when the conditions look sketchy
@@RobR386 yes, exactly the same thing....
well it's often much easier to grant the latter wish
This video brought back memories of a flight I had and a lesson mother nature taught me about the science of rising air :). Towing on the Prairies of Alberta, Canada. I had just bought my first vario and got into a thermal at about 800 ft. AGL. My vario showed 400fpm as I entered the thermal. I remember thinking, wow, this is like cheating. I circled trying to find the core of the thermal... 400 became 700fpm, then 1000. At 1400fpm I thought, wow, I'm going to make it to cloudbase for the first time. As I made it to cloudbase, my vario was screaming 1500fpm. I decided I would circle one more time just to see and feel the wisps of cloud. Of course it was the middle of july and approximately 80 degrees on the ground. That one more circle, put me into the cloud. I looked down to see the ground and noticed that their was Sleet on the knuckles of my gloves. I decided it was time to get the hell out of there and dove to the VNE speed of my Sport 2. (70mph) I looked over at my vario and it was reading 400fpm UP. It took a few very long seconds to realise what was going on. Of course I questioned my vario's accuracy. Hell i was diving at 70mph, how could I still be going up! Here's the best part. My mind flashed back to 6 months earlier sitting on the toilet, reading the latest Hang glider magazine...specifically, the article on what to do if you get stuck in cloud suck! So the solution was super simple. Instead of trying to dive out of the thermal and creating all that lift with the extra speed I was pouring on to get away. I put my glider into a very high bank angle side slip and spiraled down away from the "Thermals" that were now converging to start forming a thunderstorm. Once free of the good lords grip... I went on to the see the longest cloud street I have ever witnessed. Made a 35 mile cross country flight that day with my new found knowledge. I will remember the sleet on the front of my gloves as long as I live. Thank you for sharing your video and I am so glad you had a flight to remember... with a happy outcome :) All the best, warm winds and no sink! S.C.
😮😮 what a story! Reminds me of a sailplane guy who told me one of the same, everywhere he looked the cloud base was below him due to the dished upward base he was sucked into. He popped dive brakes and went pure vertical at Vne. As that particular sailplane was actually designed to perform that maneuver. Haha.
Wow, wonder why this didn’t work for him. What were you flying.
Did you boil to death when you landed? How is it even possible for it to be that hot?
I hate cloud suck, felt it a few times when I didn't want to and the same thing happened to me. Thanks for the advise about high bank angle side slip, I will practice that.
@@DrAElemayo80 degrees Fahrenheit.... not Celsius
You could see that storm very clearly and you chose to go up.....
And wouldn’t have made it back down if that storm had been moving in a different direction.
He went way overboard! It's an outrage!!!!
That’s my point of view
He showed off in front of a female student. That’s all there is to it.
😮😮😢@@pjnj042
A major part of learning to fly certified aircraft is studying meteorology and knowing when not to fly, especially if you’re taking passengers.
My thoughts exactly. First 5 seconds of the video I was thinking that looks like some really active cloud formations in the area. Plus with that much rising air, it's also falling somewhere too.
Literally from the very first frame of the flight portion of this video and seeing the storm behind you, I knew this was going to be a wild ride. As a private pilot, we are taught to stay at least 20 miles away from thunderstorms. So to fly that close to a thunderstorm in a rinky dink hang glider is a bit crazy. And then to turn back toward the storm and get sucked up a second time was even more cray-cray.
It's all according to plan when you want to show off for the young hot student and create a "life and death situation" to help get in her pants.
I mean how else does one get KZhead clicks right? I'm surprised a trainer would choose to take their student up in this weather...
I would love to hear the actual audio instead of the music
On her way home she Goggled “Drone Flying for Beginners.”😊
Next time, just look for lift. Whenever I do, all I find is sink.
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Story of my life.....
I wash dishes for a living. Happily. 😊
@@yongyea4147 lmao
I'm actually stuck in an updraft right now, but the 5G signal is great. Wish me luck!
down yet?
@@recursiveidentity nope
My instructor always said "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the sky than it is to be in the sky wishing you were on the ground."
He also lucked out with such a calm passenger. She did great too!
My instructor got sucked into a cloud at 17,000 feet and came out at 26,000 no oxygen glider covered in ice.. landed in a box canyon in a spiral when he came out. Lucky to have survived that one!
Time to look for a qualified instructor
@@humnpwr he was more than qualified. He started flying in the 70’s was a US hang gliding association board member and set distance records. You’ve obviously never flown in big air out west in the mountains.
@@coryturner9140I was already a private pilot in the 60’s and also an honorary member of United States hangliders association in Ontario with an honorary mountain flying certificate. As I introduced the sport in Blue Mountain Collingwood in early 70’s 😂😂😂
@@coryturner9140 I’ve had a pilot license since the 60’s. Very important is to check the weather before you fly. Stay at least 15 nm away from thunderstorms, anvil tops. They will shred an airliner to pieces in seconds and your Instructor allowed himself to be drawn up inside one??? I was given an honorary mountain flying license and membership to The United States Hang Gliding Association in early 70’s for introducing the sport in Ontario Canada.
@@humnpwr the only way to set distance records is to fly on the edge when the cumulus clouds are popping… when the mountain tops are over 10,000 feet the air gets big fast… you don’t even need clouds to make for a dangerous situation. You get katabatic winds in the evening at the same location and the whole valley is going up during the glassoff period and we’ve had people stuck at 11,000 ft after the sun has set…king mountain Idaho is a well known big air location…
I'm a glider pilot and would not have thought that the Rogallo wing would have been that good in a thermal. Glad you had a safe landing. I learned the physics of a large CU cloud. I was flying a 1-26 and ended up in the cloud, entering at cloudbase. The convection currents inside this cloud drew me in, gaining some altitude. I quickly responded and leveled by sense, then nosed down, finally punching through the cloudbase. Cumulonimbus clouds, though, have a hell of a lot of energy and getting sucked up in one can run you up thousands of feet.
Every bad end starts by bad decission. You are luck that it ends with smile. Next time dońt go to fly with thunderstorm on horizon.
Flying off a hill top with 6 others here in New Zealand quite a few years back. The other 6 had 5min plummets, scratching around for lift. I had over an hour almost vertical in my harness, with the bar as far back as I could get it. Finally spat me out at 9000ft. Scary!
Which hill top in nz ?
@@obee1kanobeeTapawera. Out of Nelson
Lord I hope I never have to stand on my control bar to get back down.
This is incredible. Thanks for sharing. This serves as a good lesson as to how dangerously strong and large lift can get.
Had it happen back in the early 90s. It is amazing how fast the excitement of great I am going up turns to, oh shit I am still going up. Actually thought about cutting the hang loop and using the reserve or breaking the glider. That Pac Air was stronger than I ever knew. Great job staying calm and keeping the student calm as well.
don't use the reserve when in that aircurrent >_
@@particleconfig.8935 Read my whole post.
1970'S SEAGULL PILOT HERE..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 THE PHRASE DONT MESS WITH MOTHER NATURE, COMES TO MIND. (also from the 1970's!!) 👏👏👏💪 hanging your leg over the cross bar was CLASSIC! 😉
Interesting problem to have. I remember reading an account about two sailplane pilots who jumped out of it as it was getting sucked higher. One opened his chute when he cleared the cloud, the other when he was only a thousand feet. The first one spent the next hour or so going up and down. Frozen from the cold and blacking out with the altitude. He had a frightening day.
What happened to the sailplane?
@@HGAviator They parachuted out of is and lost sight of if. Not a clue if the account mentioned it.
Who would have thought, pointing the nose down would make it go down.
Great job keeping out of that. I'm PG pilot and got sucked into an OD storm cell once. It was the single scariest experience of my adult life. 11 m/s lift in sopping wet rain and turbulence you wouldn't believe. I ended up stalling and back flying down and out 3000ft before I was out of the white room and got to safety. Just wild
That sounds way worse than my experience. I must say though, big ears didn't do nothing with my old wing. My new one has reduced line count so might be nearly as good as a stall. Glad to hear you survived!
@@sandrainthesky1011 Big ear (or full assymetric collapse) on one side and spiral on the other. It's a great method to descend fast without the G forces of a normal spiral dive.
another pilot says collapse your frontal by pulling A in controlled manner
Anyone who's flown a small aircraft knows what those puffy clouds you're flying under mean on humid summer days. A Cessna 152 could take constant pitch and throttle control to reasonably stay at the designated altitude. Some days were *bumpy*. I can't fathom deciding to take to the air and then stay up with a big squall line clearly visible on a hang glider. Seeing anything like that in the distance meant, "we're getting away from that".
He’s like “hey, can you help me pull the bar in” 😂
Not only did the instructor get them outta a terrible situation, his complacent decision to continue his lolly-gagging around the thunderstorm allowed him to further boast of his horrific entanglement with sure death by getting them both back into that same stupid problem he didn't think about before subjecting this poor student into death-defying threats. Great job Jr. Now heres your lawsuit.
I liked this video a lot; as a PG pilot I've always thought you can just yank the bar and honk downwards at a 40 degree angle at 90km/hr. I fly tandem too and I guess a hangi tandem is a bit of a truck, meant to fly stable and damped. Kudos to miss Brooke smiling all the time! All the best, fly free my friend.
Tandems are indeed too stable in pitch. Several luff lines from the king post to the trailing edge hold it up at speed, pitching up the glider. The overall design is not made for steep dives. In his situation I'd try both legs over the bar, hands on nose wire, asking for the passenger's help in doing the same.
You see this is why we should the the people who made the X-29 to design ultralights.
At the beginning of the video you mentioned the decision to fly was based on beautiful clear blue skies above you! Sorry, but I don't see ANY blue sky anywhere in your video, only overcast skies. Your poor pilot decision-making created this whole incident and it could have been avoided.
Wild ride for sure ! ❤
dark clouds: let's go flying.. can't be that bad. :) At least you weren't under a paraglider. Also there I learnt: getting away is the way, not getting down. Because you won't make it down without getting away first..
Why would a Paraglider have been worse? I don't know much about hang glider but paraglider have multiple ways to loose hight fast if needed. Accelerated Big Ears , Spiral Decent or B Stall. I never saw a Glider reduce its wingspan at will.
@@matthiaswindrich9697 only big ears get you moving away. And you're far slower than a hangglider. I've done all maneuvers in trainings but their decent rate is too slow to efficiently fight a cloud. Yes, also the spiral.. wouldn't want to try spiralling in an emergency situation. Best is to avoid. Really. I've pulled rather big ears for some 10- 15 minutes already, it's not relaxing if you have to come down.
@@matthiaswindrich9697 If you can get a 20m/s spiral dive (70km/h without forward speed), you would not last more than a couple seconds. Maybe a minute. This is the fastest way to get down. Big ears will get you around 3-5m/s sink. B-stall ca 10m/s with no forward speed. Maybe throwing the reserve? That'll get you again 5m/s. Thunder storms can generate cloud suck with 100km/h or more, Inside the cloud it can reach over 200km/h. Thats terminal velocity for human bodies.
@@instrumentenfreakyea - though I've never reached that kind of velocity with a b-stall on my paraglider.. not saying it couldn't be possible. Also check in the video how long the hangglider needed to escape..
@@dernicolas6281we have to find the best way and I want to know the descent rate of a 50% collapse with a spiral on the opposite side of the collapse. Or also just a very deep stall (not backfly) But yes, much better to avoid the situation!
Couldn't think of a better music theme to this than Roblox! 👍
That would have been a serious no go for most certified pilots. You really need to learn a bit about aviation weather, and think of your passenger before you go up. Maybe you're willing to take the risk, but your passenger isn't informed and can't make an informed decision. You're lucky. This one ended well. Don't go up with a passenger in conditions like that again. It may not end so well.
Although the decision to fly that day was questionable in hindsight, kudos to the instructor for keeping a level head in the situation. He got them out safe, live and learn. Well done.
Wow, you definitely got some extra air time out of that flight, glad it worked out👍 In the 80s I fought a thunderstorm thermal above Mingus Mountain in Arizona and it sucked me up to 11.500 before I got out to the S/E but landing sites in the forest are a different story. I’m still alive and I’m glad you both are too👍
Non flyer here. If the updraft was due to moisture being drawn up from the delta, why would you not head inland, away from the river? Perhaps I'm missing something here....
Air humidity comes from land too. The storm cloud just sucks whatever air is under it, it's too powerful for the type of ground to matter.
Just before they got airborne black storm clouds can be seen on the background .Taking off was just a very bad decision .
Es una experiencia inolvidable... Yo tuve una parecida con una Rumour2 un verano sobre la Muela de Alarilla. En un día de mucho calor, ascendí 500 m. en térmica, y de pronto entré en una zona de fuerte viento y ascenso. Me era imposible bajar, y solo picando a tope conseguía limitar la subida a un +2 m/s; pero era muy cansado y no dejaba de subir y retroceder a pesar de ir a 80-90 km/h. Llegó un momento en que empecé a sentir un frio intensísimo, y se me quedaban los guantes pegados en la barra de control al instante, como me costaba despegarlos sujeté la barra por la goma que la cubría en las curvas. También iba en mangas de camiseta y mi nariz era como una fuente continua de agua. Poco a poco me llevaba hacia atrás porque no aguantaba picando tanto tiempo. Se me ocurrió derivar hacia un lado, y al fin encontré una zona donde la intensidad bajaba y podía descender. Al llegar a 500 m el viento de pronto cesó y el calor intenso me subió rápidamente la temperatura. Había pillado una onda bastante violenta procedente de la sierra, a unos 50 km. Por debajo de 500 m sólo se podía ascender con térmica y era difícil pillar alguna. Ese día solo otra ala lo consiguió y le pasó lo mismo que a mi, pero era una Rumour pequeña y tuvo muchas menos dificultades que yo, que iba con un ala bastante grande en el límite de mi peso. En otra ocasión pillé onda en el mismo sitio, pero esa fue mucho más suave y mucha gente la cogió sin problemas. Es realmente angustioso ver que vas a una situación cada vez peor y sin poder evitarlo... Recomiendo en estas situaciones lo que hice, derivar de lado; o dejarse llevar hacia atrás si hay recogida( yo no la tenía ), pero dudo que se dejara de ascender; y pasar de 35 o 40 ºC a 0ºC con sensación térmica de -5 o -10 ºC y descendiendo... puede llegar a ser mortal( sobre todo si se va en pantalón y manga corta( menos mal que iba con guantes ), por que la onda puede subir mucho e ir aumentando la velocidad a medida que se sube. Me alegro que todo fuera bien. Me viene a la memoria un Campeonato que se hizo en Como, Italia, donde varios pilotos murieron al ser absorbidos por un cumulo nimbo. También han palmado así pilotos de planeador. Saludos
What a fantastic way to launch and land. Not seen this before. Love it. Great times.
I'm looking at the sky and I'm seeing a no flying day ! Customer got her money bet she didn't think she was going to 16 thousand ft mind pmsl 🤣 lucky people
Not to mention they had to be getting pretty cold, since not dressed for the altitude.
Been there done that stuck in a climbing dive. Just when you think that you’ve conquered it and ready to land, bang, up to the same stupid altitude that on a fine day would be a sky out but today even the maize leaves from the farmer’s fields are at cloud base!
There is a story from yesteryear, of a bunch of pilots in Italy flying a site at the N end of a lake (Como?) in Italy on a sunny, blue-sky day, in the 80's(?). A fast system came up the lake and a big Cu popped over the site, which rapidly developed into a CuNim with the associated massive lift. Some were able to land, but a number were sucked up into the cloud, and as I recall, like about six were found frozen solid miles downwind later and some had harrowing tales. I have been flying since 1972 and I cannot remember the details, but perhaps someone else recalls this. I could tell you a few stories of my own experiences. File under: Tandems I had to stand on the control bar, WITH the student.
Damn, that looks dangerous and fun- right up my alley!
Happy ending! phew that was tense. Theres noting quite like being up in the air when you really want to be on the ground, its not a great feeling, I've had it a few times. Nice to see a water landing, Ive not seen one before x
but I have to say I LOVE how by the end of the video your student was right up there flying on the bar with you instead of tandeming behind you. What a way to learn!
One thing is certain....that lady will NEVER try hang gliding again...
It said she was a pilot in training and seemed to handle it with surprisingly little fear... I have no Idea why you would think this. You could be right but I doubt it.
She was clueless. She will fly and become a pilot. Should she? Not sure.
@@UTAH100 hopefully!!
@ismovalle1570 Some people are simply not meant for certain things. Given her completely aloofness, I don't think she has the requisite mindset of a sober pilot. She would literally smile her way into the ground. I did not see any neural protective connections firing. At crisis time, one needs to turn off the smile; stop talking and posing for instagram and focus on critical task management. Some things cannot be trained. You have to have a pilots instinct. She likely has other skills like shopping and posting online. Being a pilot is not her strength. I could be wrong but I honestly don't think she learned a thing. I think she immediately went online and posted this online for views. She was probalby like OMG- it was amazing. My instructor is the best! OMG- let's grab some Starbucks and go shopping. I can't wait to get my hang gliding pilots license. God help us all. From what I have seen, that will likely not end well for her. Notice a pattern? kzhead.info/sun/oK-ffZiIgoKjqa8/bejne.html&ab_channel=PilotDebrief
@@UTAH100 Please take your sexism elsewhere. This wasn't her mistake. It was fully the instructor's. There wasn't anything she could do as she was literally the passenger learning from the instructor. I bet she's a better pilot than you are.
I could feel the Adrenaline from my sofa.. the last thing I would have expected is a problem getting that flying raft out of the sky.. Way too cool 😎
Weather forecasts? Pre-flight briefing?
He's an experienced flight instructor, he doesn't need those things
The black horizon!!!
You are a BOSS !
Oooh yes; had this situation too in my hanggliding days; first, you enjoy the thermals, but this flips quite quickly when you are 2000 meters above the landing zone and it still goes only up 😖
As a glide pilot I am intrigued by where the first thermals came from (before cloud suck). You are over a mega river with forests along the banks. Forests tend to give off lift late in the day and Grey clouds build up late in the day. I am assuming that those Forests were super hot during the day and this flight occured late in the day. . Make me curious about install remote thermometers in the forest areas.
Did you have an airspeed indicator? If not, how did you know your airspeed relative to the wing's redline? What I see in the video looks like a handheld GPS unit to me. Glad you both survived unharmed! Thanks for sharing.
I was a Tandem pilot for years. Your passenger was the best!!!!!
Deep respect for that girl. she was still in good mood after all of this!
I went for a demo ride in a glider. We were at 2000 feet and caught a thermal up to cloud base at 4500. It was a hot summer day in Tennesse with beautiful fluffy white clouds mixed with blue sky. There was no wind on the ground at the runway. In a very short time we went from 2000 feet to 4500 feet. I was amazed that the updraft was that strong. I estimated the combined weight of the glider, the pilot and myself to be well over 1000 pounds.
I got stuck going up at the point where I was tired and needed to land. Quite scary. It was just before sundown and so time was limited. I don't know how I knew to do this, but I put the glider into a steep turn that was not coordinated. It took a while, but I was able to spiral out of the lift.
Updrafts are no joke, glad you made it back down safely. I bet you were exhausted after that one!
I once flew in the Alps on a hangglider competition when similar thing happened - it was getting dark and there was lift everywhere, The only - and right solution was to abandon the competition and fly as fast as possible (bar at the knees) to where there was the most light. You don't want to spiral down with that altitude above ground which you usually have when flying in the moutains - you will be too exhausted and you don't want to land when the gusts from the thunderstorm will hit you in the landing pattern. Good thermals always mean there is a risk of local cells, so always keep watching the meteo conditions during flight. Interesting the glider with floats - how do you get ashore with it after landing?
That's funny. I think I know the situation he was talking about. I immediately thought about it and thought, "you need to get your knees over the control bar." I read about it back in the 90s. Maybe '93 or so when I was hang gliding. I think the story was in Hang Gliding magazine. Guy was flying in the West. He was caught in something. I don't think it was a thunderstorm, though, but it was a major updraft and the sun was setting (you don't want to fly at night!) and he couldn't get down and he finally got his knees over the control bar to pull it back. The risk with that is you can fall through the control bar and if you do, then you go into a dive that you'll never recover from because you won't be able to get back over the control bar. Probably a lot less risk with a second person who can stay on the back side of the control bar.
Well handled. Calm initiative saved the day.
PILOT ERROR , NO FLY DAY
I’m not a flier, how much horizontal distance could you cover (cross country) if that had been your goal, with right clothing, etc?
Can someone explain to me what's happening here? is the air being sucked into the cloud faster than this glider top speed? what happens if you just try to get farther away from the cloud flying straight?
Would it be possible to put a couple of flaps that could open in the middle of it? In case this Happens, you could descend...
You had a pile of options from my standpoint. Run Forest run! But, what do I know...
Wow, very scary. That sucks!! So speeding straight ahead got you down faster than a spiral dive? And I don’t suppose you can spin that craft. I recently saw a video of a woman that got sucked up and dumped out at over something like 37,000 feet! And 50 below zero temps. The only reason she lived was that the temps put her into hibernation and the wing iced up and collapsed. ( a paraglide). She tumbled down quickly and came to wing flying again. She was hospitalized for hyperthermia and fully recovered. Wow. Glad you didn’t have to try THAT.
That's sounds amazing. Is there a video? 😂
I've been cloud sucked while thermalling with a powered paraglider. It was like riding a wild bucking bronco. My glider was above me, beside me, behind me and under me. I spotted a bright spot to my left and added full power to advance towards it. I popped out of the cloud about 2500 feet above cloud base. The whole incident was less than 30-40 seconds.
I almost lost one of my friends like this, I think he is the person you were thinking about. He was sucked in to a cloud and was covered in ice before his glider broke and he fell though the cloud. when his glider came out of the cloud he was inverted. He also lost his parachute and crashed with the still broken glider. He was lucky to survive! SO NEVER FLY IN CONDISIONS LIKE THAT!
Hate to say it but it needs to be said. That was stupid even before the flight. Showing more respect right from the get go would have been wise. I can't believe you looked at that cloud and thought, nah, it's cool.
I’m not a hanglider, what would happen if you at #5:42 reached up and pulled on the central part of frame near the nose whilst pushing bar forward. Would that have given you more power to pitch the nose down ?
Cloud suck is pretty wild, happens in planes too! Flying gliders under really strong clouds - its like someone grabs the tail end of your plane and tries to pull you up like its a claw machine.
I am glad to hear that you are safe. That sounds like a frightening experience.
Never seen float glider like that before - well done you managed very well. You only have one option of landing .
The cloud wasn’t the only thing sucking that day
What's plan B when things go sideways with a hang glider, do you have a parachute..??
@1:43 so why stay over the water? Wouldn't have had the same up-draft over land, no?
Good thing y'all were wearing those little helmets.
the gust front winds just by being in the vicinity of that cell don't bear thinking about..
Hi as a hangglider XC pilot I would recommend standing onto the bar, this will increase your speed a lot. Even more compared what you did. Especially with a biplace glider this is easily possible.
Excellent pilot! What altitude was the tow release? Loved the pictures at the end.
Oh! That magnificient sky!😂
Great job and nice play by play. She may be brave but I don't think she fully grasped the gravity of the danger you were both in. For those questioning the decision to fly- sure, it wasn't the best however probalby 99-100 they would be fine. Some calculated risks are part of the game. We hiked Half Dome- slight clouds but we survived. Same weather next day and woman died when it randomly rained and that granite got very slick like ice (on a blue sky day.) Life is unpredictable.
but then again, should she have set a step when that rain started... (anyhow, condolences)
Wonder what the lifted index was that day
One time almost 45 years ago, I got trapped in the under belly of an cumelus nimbus with my hangglider. I had to take several stalls and sideslips to ascape it. When I finely came out of it, I was compleately relocated. I had a nerve wereaking landing in a small opening in a woods field. But he story is only recorded in my mind.
Did you learn from this experience?
I was like "Oh no, they went in the water?!" Then I realized he has floats. lol
What a gutsy student.
I'm very new at Hang Giding, but could the Glider have been put into a stall to lose altitude?
Think of a paper airplane flight. There are three basic (straight flight) patterns it can take. 1. Smooth straight flight (balanced front to back). 2. Diving flight (weight is moved forward). 3. Stalling flight (weight is too far back). This stalling flight has a repetitive swooping pattern (meaning several peaks and curved valleys). Each peak is a stall. After a stall, it dives, picks up speed and then starts to climb because there is too much lift. But in climbing it loses speed and then "oops, too slow" and then it stalls, drops the nose and then starts picking up speed again, repeating the whole process. If you move weight to the front of the paper airplane (like a paper clip or two) you can make the airplane stop stalling and dive faster. A paper airplane made to dive will always get to the ground faster than one than one that has a repetitive stalling flight pattern. Now put your paper airplane in a huge vacuum where the air moving upward goes faster than the airplane has the ability to go down. This pilot is trying to move as much weight forward as possible to dive as fast as possible. I hope that makes sense. Also, one more very important thing to consider. Speed equals control. If you have no speed you have no control. No control equals no choices until you gain speed again.
Wow, I remember watching this at your Lake City house with the "Flying Gypsies" 😜
Very educational! I guess the lesson to be learned is not to try to get down but rather to get away, then down. Thanks for posting!
Bravo d'un ancien pilote de deltaplane des années 80...👍🙌 J'ai vécu une fois un début d'aspiration par un cumulonimbus et c'est très stressant...🙁
Lesson learned that young lady will thank you for it if she gets in the situation ever on her own or she might become an instructor great fly ing ❤
Great job getting back safe!
I have had to climb out on the front wires and push the control bar with my feet behind me.
Good thing there was no turbulence.
In Greece we say. Finally good, all good. A lucky day, which fills the bag of experience.
Epic stuff. Glad you got away safe. That student got her money's worth on that one!
she paid to get endangered, cool
I think I would have thrown in a 360 at the foot part to see my options, and then ran off to the right over the flats, so I was not running straight down the road with it chasing me; at least that way you could have 45'ed and let it pass a bit to your left. Pulled in that much, even with the lift, you should have been at least 35 mph, which on a diagonal, should have moved you from directly in front of it, even though you would have had to call for a ride from the farmer's field 20 miles inland. Very sad, lift when you don't want it, and no lift when you do want it. But hey, your passenger had a great attitude and got a nice LONG flight for just a flat land tow up. Hopefully she gave you a tip in the form of some clean shorts. Did you really land 300 yards offshore and make Brooke tow you back into land? Big kudos to Brooke for the superior attitude.
Also VERY very keen on knowing whether one of you has ever experienced static loads there up under or within the clouds? Beam me up Scotty!
In the sake of selfie 🤳 we are going to die
Maybe they can design a wing where you can open a window of sorts to reduce the lift.