Does your iPhone actually get SLOWER over time?

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Does your iPhone get slower as time goes on? Maybe in the past this was expected, but now it's a subject of much debate. Can age alone cause an iPhone to become slower? As the battery degrades will performance get worse? Do iOS updates make iPhone slower? Today we're going to examine all of these questions to find out if your iPhone is being slowed!
0:00 How do we test it?
2:40 Unboxing a sealed iPhone XS
4:16 Setting up iOS 12
5:46 Usability differences
7:36 Objective performance measuring
9:44 Has the 'old' iPhone gotten SLOWER?
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  • I think an interesting third comparator would be used phone with new battery

    @jordank195@jordank195Ай бұрын
    • What about a 4th comparator? A new inbox iPhone on the original OS that you upgraded to the latest compatible OS after unboxing.

      @ethanmenzel@ethanmenzelАй бұрын
    • Yeah, the Apple Store in Sacramento near me just has groups of criminals in the parking lot robbing anyone coming out of apple.. so I can’t even get a legit battery replacement. Ends up being safer to just buy a new one 😮 and create a bigger problem. It’s pretty lame actually. I wish there was a way the user could replace the battery themself 😢 Edit: I should add, I don’t like what the EU and now America are doing to Apple for not playing ball when it comes to privacy, it’s pathetic and wrong. I don’t want to change Apple.. I want to change the world around them lol.

      @Errcyco@ErrcycoАй бұрын
    • thats exactly what shoud have beenn done, 2 variables in one test is not acurate at all

      @drahmadxmedss8078@drahmadxmedss8078Ай бұрын
    • @@Errcyco aren’t the stores in the mall though?

      @heartdyedpurple@heartdyedpurpleАй бұрын
    • It wouldn’t make a difference because the phone doesn’t slow down if the battery health is >80%

      @ilbufalantdellefigurine4488@ilbufalantdellefigurine4488Ай бұрын
  • My phone is now so old its showing up in legacy hardware videos. 83% battery health too! Going strong, no noticable slowdowns.

    @anzonix@anzonixАй бұрын
    • It’s not old..he’s just making it seem like it’s old. People still run iPhone 8 and X for the jail breaking

      @slimdunkin117@slimdunkin117Ай бұрын
    • This Note8 is a beast as well, it’s moving along at the same pace since the screen protector was pulled. Battery is roughly same and with normal use goes from morning to evening before it’s around 15-20% and will totally charge to full in half hour or less. Due to the note7 the Note8 is known for having a smaller battery than the competition at the time. Ram usage is exactly the same as when it was new give or take half a gig but it’s still showing the same amount of free ram available. I never had anything over the screen like a glass protector or anything and it’s on it’s second Incipo Back cover protector, same quality as an Otter box. Both sides of glass still not broken.

      @annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841Ай бұрын
    • i have an iphone 7+, be grateful

      @AbdulMuqeett@AbdulMuqeettАй бұрын
    • @@AbdulMuqeetti had a 7 plus too just recently switched to a 15 pro max

      @hamza.991@hamza.991Ай бұрын
    • @@hamza.991 same. But 7 to SE because I'm so used to the old design

      @5Dqniel@5DqnielАй бұрын
  • I believe it gets slower because apps are becoming more demanding on CPU and RAM, more features being added on social media apps and games.

    @GeloMeme@GeloMemeАй бұрын
    • Fact

      @carstuff4u942@carstuff4u942Ай бұрын
    • Apple already confessed that if your battery isn't acting correctly, iOS slows down your processor. That of course caused stuttering and slow performance. There are hardly and new features being added that would need more processor power social media apps. Especially if it's accessing a new hardware feature that is not on your old phone.

      @TomT-bn1lm@TomT-bn1lmАй бұрын
    • Thats what i was about to say most iphones now have 4-6gb of ram which is quite fast! Now that we are slowly now getting to 8gb of ram

      @jake78441@jake78441Ай бұрын
    • Which in turn uses more battery on an already worn out battery

      @user-cb2fo8js9i@user-cb2fo8js9iАй бұрын
    • nope

      @ciller98@ciller98Ай бұрын
  • One thing that slows down older iPhones is old batteries. Replacing those old batteries really does improve the phone a lot

    @BenjaminHyink@BenjaminHyinkАй бұрын
    • Yep. I’d believe that even if it hasn’t hit under 80 yet, if it’s below 90 you’d notice a performance bump with a new battery

      @HearMeLearn@HearMeLearnАй бұрын
    • Totally agree with you

      @BDTigers1998@BDTigers1998Ай бұрын
    • true that

      @difanaufal@difanaufalАй бұрын
    • My friend broke the power button on our iPhone SE1 battery was an eBay purchase still hard crashes a lot but we leave it plugged in as a sound machine for baby girl.

      @t20594@t20594Ай бұрын
    • @@t20594i'm sorry but how was that in any way relevant information?

      @meislit9217@meislit9217Ай бұрын
  • Commercial break at 1:13, regular programming resumes at 2:19

    @chocoloco9985@chocoloco9985Ай бұрын
    • Thx

      @Hotcommodity24@Hotcommodity2418 күн бұрын
    • if you're on PC, there's an addon called "Sponsorblock" it skips all sponsors on all videos (duh)

      @GameOver-nm2us@GameOver-nm2us5 күн бұрын
    • Love u

      @suplosers3615@suplosers361513 сағат бұрын
  • 1:59 I don’t think I would bring that on an airplane without TSA having some questions

    @tdrg_@tdrg_Ай бұрын
    • Looks really cool but at the same time it looks like a bomb 💀

      @charliesretrocomputing@charliesretrocomputingАй бұрын
    • yep. you're gettin pulled over with that thing

      @DavidPostolache@DavidPostolacheАй бұрын
    • “Is that… is that a countdown timer?” “Time till empty.” “Ya right. Come with me sir.”

      @zapod20@zapod20Ай бұрын
    • Im sure that they’re gonna work in a different design because of your comment and I’m not kidding smh

      @tarugo06@tarugo06Ай бұрын
    • Battery banks look quite similar to TSA scanners.

      @battery_wattage@battery_wattageАй бұрын
  • still loving my XS ❤️

    @minhlede@minhledeАй бұрын
    • my uncle upgraded from a 6S to an XR because his Apple Watch Series 4 was not compatible with the 6S. He feels no need to upgrade from his XR but will likely be forced to because, in the next few years because, his Apple Watch Series 4 will not support an unsupported operating system.

      @ethanmenzel@ethanmenzelАй бұрын
    • Still rocking my XS Max, works almost like a charm to this day on iOS 17.4

      @Ilkello99@Ilkello99Ай бұрын
    • For me it’s the most beautiful ever launched iPhone

      @ToastedMusic00@ToastedMusic00Ай бұрын
    • @@ToastedMusic00 it truly is. the camera cut out on the latest ones just don't look as precious.

      @minhlede@minhledeАй бұрын
    • I have an XS max and a 14 Pro and the XS max has a bigger screen and feels lighter and better in the hand since it’s rounded. The performance is good in both. There are still things the 14Pro does better but I just love the XS max and it feels so good to hold.

      @wertywerrtyson5529@wertywerrtyson5529Ай бұрын
  • When are we going to talk about a beast of a phone and a powerhouse the iPhone XS still is? most people forget about it's existence, this phone is so underrated and still performs so good even on the laggy and buggy iOS 17.

    @lordxbot@lordxbotАй бұрын
    • That's what I'm rocking and happy with it. The camera isn't great nowadays, but serviceable, and it does get weirdly warm sometimes, but yeah, a pretty solid performer.

      @ruekurei88@ruekurei88Ай бұрын
    • It has better screen technology than iphone 11 😂

      @VickyMobilefps@VickyMobilefps29 күн бұрын
    • yeah

      @mrfoxesite@mrfoxesite29 күн бұрын
    • but they are different price points but 11 might have better cameras and CPU but 3D touch is gone...

      @mrfoxesite@mrfoxesite29 күн бұрын
    • @@mrfoxesite iphone 11 has 3d touch, the only difference one is using lcd technology other one oled technology

      @VickyMobilefps@VickyMobilefps29 күн бұрын
  • Here I'm using the 6s 128gb 😂 still keep up in 2024 (FYI Battery, home button,Screen has been changed)

    @Reiza@ReizaАй бұрын
    • My iPhone 6 just died before Christmas 2023. It lasted more than 8 years. I got the battery replaced by Apple in 2019. It was at 68%. I just love the form factor of the iPhone 6, so easy to fit in my pocket.

      @lakeline6317@lakeline6317Ай бұрын
    • @@lakeline6317what phone do you have now?

      @tarugo06@tarugo06Ай бұрын
    • Time to upgrade that shite. Should’ve done it in 2022. You’re missing out

      @emilsecker7881@emilsecker7881Ай бұрын
    • @@lakeline6317don’t tell me you actually used it till then. It’s been insecure for YEARS

      @emilsecker7881@emilsecker7881Ай бұрын
    • I'm using the original SE because they won't make a legit tiny phone and I like that size. I replaced the battery for $50 and it works like new. I only use it for photos, texting, calls, alarm clock, and GPS. Safari is fast enough, but it's hard on my eyes so I don't read much on it.

      @user-bg9tz5lt5w@user-bg9tz5lt5wАй бұрын
  • I think that you hit on an important point, Luke. In approximately 2007, Leo Laporte (technology guru/reporter) released an episode of his show where he stated that it was a good idea to annually reinstall the OS on your iPod in order to prevent software-induced slowdowns. Makes sense to me that the iPhone is no different!

    @user-jt4go6fy2b@user-jt4go6fy2bАй бұрын
    • Same advice for Windows OS.

      @TomT-bn1lm@TomT-bn1lmАй бұрын
    • How do u reinstall your current iOS

      @Jesus.is.LordSavior4@Jesus.is.LordSavior4Ай бұрын
    • my windows install took 128gb while reinstalling it now takes 59gb!

      @mrfoxesite@mrfoxesite29 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Jesus.is.LordSavior4Guy is talking out of his ass. Probably means a factory reset but even that's unnecessary. Just restart the device.

      @sublime_tv@sublime_tv29 күн бұрын
    • @@sublime_tv thx

      @Jesus.is.LordSavior4@Jesus.is.LordSavior417 күн бұрын
  • Would have been interesting to see how the new phone fared after being updated to the same OS version as the used one after doing the tests you did here

    @NickCharles@NickCharlesАй бұрын
    • That’s what I was thinking. You can’t tell if the difference in speeds is because of aged hardware or a slower iOS version. Would’ve been great if he benchmarked after updating new phone to latest as well

      @jackpan4535@jackpan4535Ай бұрын
    • It would be interesting but older iOS Versions are pretty rare so I wouldn’t update it

      @iPhoneTech2g@iPhoneTech2g24 күн бұрын
    • @@iPhoneTech2g Rare or not, it does not support WhatsApp + Mums with System 12. Nothing

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
    • This is the real test

      @AscensionProject8@AscensionProject811 күн бұрын
  • I’ve been wondering about this for quite a while. Thanks!

    @southva03@southva03Ай бұрын
  • Would love to see you replace the battery in the old phone and do this test again.

    @gjohson1987@gjohson1987Ай бұрын
    • Very slow processor and little RAM

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • 3:26 Look here youngling, that's what we used to call a charger and a pair of earbuds. Back in my day (gets on soapbox) Apple used to provide those items with every iphone sold!

    @thedreaming6446@thedreaming6446Ай бұрын
    • Back in my day ,there were no phones

      @cw1161@cw1161Ай бұрын
    • ​@@cw1161try to understand the joke

      @trustee1108@trustee1108Ай бұрын
    • I remember having earpods with the clear plastic case. Never broke nor tangled those wired headphones because I would just wrap it up and put it in my pocket. Ended up breaking after washing them for the 5th time but I’m pretty sure it was the dryer that killed it.

      @nylotical@nyloticalАй бұрын
    • back in my days i was a baby.

      @mrfoxesite@mrfoxesite29 күн бұрын
    • they removed it but was introduced with the iphone 5.

      @mrfoxesite@mrfoxesite29 күн бұрын
  • I use a XS Max as my spare alongside my 15 Pro Max and it works perfectly fine except for when processing video edits and preparing a software update (which might be due to slower storage R/W speeds). Otherwise, it keeps apps in the background with no problems and its 6 year old battery still sits at 85%. I water damaged it once and used a hairdryer to try to dry out the internals. The FaceID doesn’t work but there’s no other flaw.

    @vedanshchn@vedanshchnАй бұрын
    • how can i use two iphone's with same apple id but not duplicate my main phone stuff to the other one?

      @carswithdennis@carswithdennisАй бұрын
    • @@carswithdennis Just don’t select the option that says copy from older iPhone and set up as a new device and you’ll be fine.

      @vedanshchn@vedanshchnАй бұрын
    • My xs max survived being in the laundry, I put it in rice for 2 days then left it in my car on a very hot summer day to kill any moisture inside and it is still strong till this day plus its on ios 14.6!!

      @alperwolfie@alperwolfie7 күн бұрын
  • Literally just had my battery replaced on my 12 pro max after it getting to 77%, and was noticing considerable lag and stuttering. Glad to say, I can confirm it seems like a new phone again after getting the new battery! 🎉

    @oleww50@oleww50Ай бұрын
    • 12 It is still very strong and true. If the battery drops below 79, it starts to slow down, but also if the processor becomes old, even if it is 100 percent, it will slow down.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • The findings are already interesting but I think you were testing two factors here old vs new phone and iOS12 vs 17. I think if you now update the new phone to iOS 17 and run comparisons again it would give more insights on how the old vs new phone actually perform as well as how new phone on two different software versions compares.

    @9ferdyyy9@9ferdyyy9Ай бұрын
    • I know right, I was perplexed in the comments how nobody seems to see the issue here. This guy is doing it completely wrong if you want a definitive answer to what he originally said at the beginning of the video. KZhead is playing one of its games with me today where it keeps recommending videos that seem normal but when you pay attention you start noticing that whatever it is your watching will have major inaccuracies about the videos topic or huge holes in gathered data and never acknowledge it either. Idk why yt does that type of stuff.

      @annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841@annacurransmotherofmeghanc1841Ай бұрын
    • It wouldn’t behave any differently i think except for battery testing obviously

      @Rjean-paul@Rjean-paulАй бұрын
    • @@Rjean-paulcan’t know for sure unless he tested it. New iOS may be slower, less optimised or even more efficient than previous. Seeing as the old phone beat out the new phone in one test, I’m assuming the efficiency of the OS can impact the speed

      @jackpan4535@jackpan4535Ай бұрын
    • Please don’t update the iPhone! It’s very rare on iOS 12 and collectors like me wish we would have that phone on that version…I only have one on iOS 16.2.1 and one on 17.0.3

      @iPhoneTech2g@iPhoneTech2g24 күн бұрын
    • @@iPhoneTech2g How stupid. Take an iPhone 6 and you will find it with the same system

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • Hey Luke! Great video as always! Keep up the good work.

    @JoHiPe@JoHiPeАй бұрын
  • Great video! I have noticed similar things in my testing, phones that are 5 or 6, or even 7 years old are still completely fine. It normally just comes down to the battery. On an older used phone the battery degradation over time will contribute the most to slow downs. I have especially noticed it when it's cold outside or when the battery is below 20%, or both. Fantastic video as always Luke!

    @techno_eclipse@techno_eclipseАй бұрын
    • No, my previous device, the 7 Plus, had a battery of 96 and it became slow. It was sold in 21 months 5. An iPhone 12 came to me as a gift. Perhaps if it had not arrived, I would have delayed the upgrade a little, but the device slows down because its processor is slow, and the company may slow it down, and consumption also plays a role.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • Would be cool to see picture quality too! My brother and I were discussing how our photos seem higher quality when we first got our phones compared to after a few years of usage

    @iamharryjames@iamharryjamesАй бұрын
  • It would be interesting to see if replacing the battery in the old one would increase benchmark scores.

    @ozumado@ozumadoАй бұрын
  • This is the only video on yt testing this , good job but i wanted more app opening speed test specialy with heavy games

    @amgil475@amgil475Ай бұрын
  • Please compare quality of photo/video from these 2 phones with different OS versions.

    @igorkharytaniuk2661@igorkharytaniuk2661Ай бұрын
  • I would've also done tests with the old phone, then upgraded to the latest ver to do a 3way comparison.

    @ryanbrown2923@ryanbrown2923Ай бұрын
  • I am still using an iPhone 6s Plus and it’s still working fine.

    @jonathanraven5939@jonathanraven593926 күн бұрын
  • My 15 pro max's performance was absolutely flawless when I bought it. 2 months and a few ios updates later, the phone sometimes stutters and does other weird little things. Sometimes the keyboard doesnt wanna work, an app doesnt work, or there is a lag in the animations. It doesn't happen all the time but that 5% of the time it does, really gets me because it was perfect before I updated it. This just me?

    @jacemcdonald3971@jacemcdonald3971Ай бұрын
    • it's not just you. my old ipad works fine too. but years later, it forced me to upadte because it says "can't install apps please update to latest version of ios". than i was forced to update and low and behold, it got slower, lags frequently basically unusable now.

      @jetfu400@jetfu40021 күн бұрын
  • i found this video very interesting. keep up the great work.

    @quantx6572@quantx6572Ай бұрын
  • I can tell you that on the macOS side, Ventura and Sonoma are both WAAAY heavier than their predecessors...

    @Zebra_Paw@Zebra_PawАй бұрын
    • That makes perfect sense, they're now being developed with much more powerful hardware in mind.

      @thebuddercweeper@thebuddercweeper28 күн бұрын
    • @@thebuddercweeper I can tell you that with future macOS versions, the M1 MacBook Air is not gonna feel anywhere as snappy as it does today... which is their plan. Making devices outdated, while a 12 years old PC can be snappy on Windows 11! Just like creating gigantic ewaste with iCloud locks, on actual COMPUTERS!

      @Zebra_Paw@Zebra_Paw28 күн бұрын
    • @@Zebra_Paw That's ridiculous. Even older Intel Macs still run fine despite their relatively extremely limited computing power

      @thebuddercweeper@thebuddercweeper28 күн бұрын
    • @@thebuddercweeper macOS support doesn't last very long, community had to make patchers, and while they're fantastic tools, they can come with caveats, and they won't change how slow Sonoma is on dual cores. I've been hackintoshing lately, and in macOS, a PC laptop with an i5 3210m feels much faster than a MacBook with that same CPU. Probably because of the terrible cooling in Macs. But, I don't even have to do that, because Windows 11 has more or less out of the box support for ancient hardware, the drivers can be installed and it just works!

      @Zebra_Paw@Zebra_Paw28 күн бұрын
    • @@Zebra_Paw 1. Using the previous version of macOS is not a huge deal, they all do mostly the same things you just don't get the latest features. 2. Windows 11 only officially supports 8th gen intel CPUs and later, or Ryzen 3000 and later. I would not call that "ancient"

      @thebuddercweeper@thebuddercweeper27 күн бұрын
  • You had a good chance to do something no one has ever done before, but you just messed things up by not putting in effort and not using the opportunity at all

    @Created-byJadon@Created-byJadon25 күн бұрын
    • yes

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
    • I agree I think this is a really bad video

      @DDArmy@DDArmy12 күн бұрын
    • yea indeed, video is so base. Why didnt he update the new phone to newsest iOS to check, if update slows down the phone? Or replace battery in an used phone?

      @michaszewczak7392@michaszewczak73925 күн бұрын
  • Why it says M2 MBA in 10:07?

    @kielvostro@kielvostroАй бұрын
    • Probably re-used some chart from a previous video and forgot to change the label.

      @XeZrunner@XeZrunnerАй бұрын
    • but why are they so similar😭

      @Darsh0606@Darsh0606Ай бұрын
    • @@Darsh0606bc he put M2 MBA by mistake

      @tdrg_@tdrg_Ай бұрын
    • April Fools;p

      @davidbelecci6970@davidbelecci6970Ай бұрын
    • @@Darsh0606the numbers and graphs are correct and from the two phones in the video, it was just mislabeled as macbook air

      @meislit9217@meislit9217Ай бұрын
  • You should’ve tested something like iPad 2018, it’s literally unusable now on iPadOS 17. It was very fast on IOS 12, but now it drops to 30 fps even in Hill Climb Racing and crashes frequently. Benchmark score is the same, but real life usage performance drastically changed.

    @selenix@selenix15 күн бұрын
  • You should have updated the unboxed phone to iOS 17 as a last test to see if getting a new battery is all a phone needs! For someone who uses a Xs or 11 hoping to hold onto it while it still gets updates, that would have been great info.

    @SebastianBravoco@SebastianBravocoАй бұрын
    • The battery is not everything, but if it is weak, it contributes to slowing down the device, but if its percentage is high, then it is a problem of both.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • The nand flash inside your phone also degrades over time especially if you keep your phone full all the time and it can cause slowness also

    @ardwivedi16@ardwivedi16Ай бұрын
    • You're the only wise one here.

      @colindoyle9876@colindoyle9876Ай бұрын
  • I was laughing at the comparison graph at 10:07, iPhone vs a M2 Macbook Air 😂😂

    @TooLittleContra@TooLittleContraАй бұрын
    • yeah..like.. whyyyyyyy he did that :facepalm

      @FarrasAmaliM21@FarrasAmaliM21Ай бұрын
    • Oops. Definitely an editing error

      @WooferCooker@WooferCooker24 күн бұрын
  • This thing is on my mind for over a long time it's exciting to see someone making video about this

    @mikail8474@mikail84744 күн бұрын
  • Great vid Luke, exploring the everyday real-world questions. 👍 Probably battery wear and latest iOS on an older phone plays it’s part. I guess also no surprise that ‘bloat’ over time is a major factor. But if you’re like me, the will is weak to clean out your phone and delete all those apps you used once, 4 years ago.

    @brucekennedy5274@brucekennedy5274Ай бұрын
  • Putting in a new official Apple battery would be an interesting follow up test. I've personally witnessed a few times a phone was stuttering and dropping frames while reporting normal battery health, but replacing the battery vastly improved it.

    @tipoomaster@tipoomaster22 күн бұрын
    • The 96's battery was slow and had nothing to do with it unless it was fundamentally weak

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • What was the battery health on the new iPhone? Be interesting to know

    @Hellsnight@HellsnightАй бұрын
    • It’s new, so obviously 100%…🤦🏽

      @_WF23@_WF2328 күн бұрын
    • @@_WF23 yes but its been sat in a box for 6 years ish so the health might have gone down a bit

      @Hellsnight@Hellsnight28 күн бұрын
    • @@Hellsnight battery only really degrades as you use it and recharge it

      @diegowasmyidea@diegowasmyidea24 күн бұрын
    • @@diegowasmyideaNot really. Batteries do degrade with time as well. There are many cases of new in box MacBooks that are 4+ years old dead on arrival due to batteries not charging.

      @WooferCooker@WooferCooker24 күн бұрын
    • @@WooferCooker interesting

      @diegowasmyidea@diegowasmyidea24 күн бұрын
  • I have a 13 pro max (ik not very old yet) but i did start to feel like my phone was getting slow and the battery was draining too quick. it used to last about two days when it was new, then it started to only last about a day. Later on, I had my battery replaced since my phone was damaged and it would be good to replace the battery too. I got my phone back and it felt like a brand new phone again, lasts about two days on one charge and runs smooth. Just take care of your battery, don’t stress out your phone, and try not to max out your storage!!

    @maddaxsaya.3477@maddaxsaya.34779 күн бұрын
  • Luke, it is likely that Apple pushes out a larger minor update that is slower and more stable in order to prepare for the annual major update, while eschewing anything that may give increased performance? Could you do a test with a phone still on a prior to minor update, and with the minor update before a major upgrade to software?

    @ericchang7759@ericchang7759Ай бұрын
  • Well apple actually admitted that they slowed down older iPhones

    @astrosleeps420@astrosleeps42011 күн бұрын
  • What’s the battery health of the new phone -_-

    @zackpowermusic@zackpowermusicАй бұрын
  • Very nice to test this. To me, what makes it feel slow is the apps that you have installed on the device.

    @MrAndreCoutinho@MrAndreCoutinhoАй бұрын
  • I noticed the most with my iPhone 6 after four years of constant use. I even had visited Genius Bar when Apple announced the special discount for the battery replacement. The technician was astounded that the battery life was almost like new after four years and couldn't understand how it was to be. I explained to him that I never let it drain down to below 20%. However, he stated that the battery was in "pristine" condition so nothing could improve the increasingly molasses speed.

    @InTeCredo@InTeCredoАй бұрын
    • What was the battery health?

      @tarugo06@tarugo06Ай бұрын
    • It's true that my 7 Plus had a 96 percent, but it was slow

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • What you should do is do the test as you did, but then take the iOS 12 device and update it to the latest iOS version and test against itself previously.

    @TurboBass@TurboBassАй бұрын
    • Yup, this is the only way to have a fair test: same phone, same settings, same apps, different IOS. Although, I still believe the iOS 12 on iPhone 10 will be slightly faster than iOS 17 on iPhone 10, because the iOS 12 is optimized for iPhone 10, whereas the new iOS versions are optimized for newer iPhones.

      @Skywalker96214@Skywalker96214Ай бұрын
    • Wtf is the point? Why dont reset xs with ios 17 and compare against new xs with ios12? Thats make more sense

      @leksetengah@leksetengahАй бұрын
    • @@leksetengah It is good to include data from the same device on both iOS 12 and iOS 17. More data the better.

      @TurboBass@TurboBassАй бұрын
  • This isn’t scientific. There are OS optimizations for certain apps with certain versions of the benchmark apps you’re using. The way you want to do it is use the same version of the benchmark app that goes with the year the OS was release. Do not use the same version of whatever benchmark app you plan to use. This skews the data.

    @majicdude88@majicdude88Ай бұрын
    • You missed the point of the video. Luke basically summarized at the end that despite the very slight differences in synthetic tests, user experience isn't really affected to a point where it's beyond subjective.

      @LaughOutLiberty@LaughOutLibertyАй бұрын
    • and it doesn't need to be too scientific anyway...that's not the point. this was not a speed test

      @bosenngantor9160@bosenngantor9160Ай бұрын
    • You're assuming the os itself isn't coded to slow down older phones. We've already proven that Apple intentionally slowed down older phones once.

      @IDontKnow-bb6mt@IDontKnow-bb6mtАй бұрын
    • @@IDontKnow-bb6mt Systems that do not slow down 10 and before because they do not need to be slower. Yes, a company slows down old devices in one way or another, and if they do not want to slow them down, they will stop developing new processors and devices.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • Great video, would think that a lot of difference would be due to the battery health. What I’ve been wondering is if apple have been slowing down the Intel Macs?

    @Kyle-9570@Kyle-9570Ай бұрын
  • Luke in IT and phone shops in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam you can still buy new old iPhones still in sealed boxes. You’ve just inspired me to go and see just how old an iPhone I can buy.

    @gettinsquare2987@gettinsquare2987Ай бұрын
  • Replace battery and test again.

    @fossilknifeful@fossilknifefulАй бұрын
  • Who else is watching this on a XS?

    @keith.s7139@keith.s7139Ай бұрын
    • Me

      @Ilkello99@Ilkello99Ай бұрын
    • Xs and Xs Max are still very good phones I purchased both for 350 dollars last year and they were in mint condition Xs battery life at 89 % and the Max was at 87 %

      @Madeintheshade65@Madeintheshade65Ай бұрын
    • @@Madeintheshade65 Nice! I love my XS, have had for close to 3 years and replaced the battery about a year ago. Great phone, not even slightly compelled to upgrade

      @keith.s7139@keith.s7139Ай бұрын
    • Watching on X

      @farazking4699@farazking4699Ай бұрын
  • Great video, thanks for making it.

    @daforce2723@daforce2723Ай бұрын
  • file transfer speeds would’ve been a good test to run. as well as seeing temperatures of both devices under stress. my xr used to get extremely hot while facetiming

    @adunaio@adunaioАй бұрын
  • The XS isn't even that old. Since the release of the 6s, iPhones have generally performed acceptably on newer iOS versions (though the 6(and older) did experience slowdowns over time). With newer models like the XS, it's harder to notice any decline in performance.

    @AtelierOrgan@AtelierOrganАй бұрын
    • Exactly

      @dark_nightwing_xl2797@dark_nightwing_xl279716 күн бұрын
  • You should have upgraded the new phone to the same iOS version. That would eliminate what is the biggest difference in performance. The new phone wasn't really faster - In some tests it was and in others it was slower. But the difference is so small that the reason for the difference is most likely the major difference in iOS versions and minute differences in how fast you click on one compared to the other. You could take 5 brand new iPhone 15 Pro and run the same benchmark - you would get 5 different results all differing within a few percent of each other. Short version: No, the iPhone does not slow down. Differences in performance is minute and is explained by newer iOS versions having more features and usually requiring a bit more CPU and that every single CPU has slight variations in performance.

    @mlykke@mlykkeАй бұрын
  • I did a similar test years ago with the iPhone 5, and I can tell you that there was definitely a great deal of slowdown when upgrading to iOS 9, and iOS 10 was practically unusable. It ran so well on iOS 8 though.

    @EverettCDavis@EverettCDavisАй бұрын
  • What if you install iOS 17 on the new phone and re do the tests?

    @Martinezj90@Martinezj90Ай бұрын
  • It's the security and the new features that make the phone feel slower. New and extra unplanned software items running in the background on an older phone cause it to feel like a slower phone over time. And with the battery aging degraded capacity over time- the phone experiences voltage dips when the processor loads while it's working hard- to prevent the voltage from collapsing and the phone shutting off instantly, they can downclock the processor to prevent voltage dips. (When I say downclocking, that can also assigning the work to the efficiency cores rather than the performance cores. -this could explain why there are variances in performance on the used-phone in the synthetic benchmarks.) The experiment to have also include would have been to fully upgrade the iOS on the brand new phone, then repeat the benchmarks. This could have made this comparison pretty definitive because nobody on KZhead or tech news sites have done it yet.

    @mattb9664@mattb9664Ай бұрын
    • But usually iOS doesn’t have much bigger updates right? I mean, I don’t see much change in every iOS, more if we compare 16 to 17

      @tarugo06@tarugo06Ай бұрын
    • @@tarugo06you’re thinking too surface level

      @thundertwonk2250@thundertwonk225025 күн бұрын
    • @@tarugo06 There is a difference in terms of security updates and compatibility with new programs. Any difference, if it is trivial, burdens a device

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • i don't think you can use any bench software, apple detect those and make it work as it should, if you want to truely see the difference, use games or heavy productive app like photoshop etc

    @Firebl0od@Firebl0odАй бұрын
    • Never proven true.

      @tdrg_@tdrg_Ай бұрын
    • Samsung does not Apple

      @avishekghatak2176@avishekghatak2176Ай бұрын
    • Samsung does not Apple

      @avishekghatak2176@avishekghatak2176Ай бұрын
  • My iPad Air 2nd gen now got stuck in iPadOS 15.8.2. I clearly notice it sometimes stutters with everything I try or even completely freezes. Never had that before. The battery is fine as it's basically connected to power all it's life. I now have to reboot it frequently to get it going again. I don't think it's the hardware as nothing changed, but more likely updates on various apps. They probably become more complicated and harder to process. More memory required? Looking for functionality that isn't there? Maybe Apple is doing stuff in the background we usually don't notice on faster new devices? Who will tell? Just like with the typical desktop OS it's usually software related. A fresh install can do miracles.

    @martinjjnoagenda5536@martinjjnoagenda5536Ай бұрын
  • It would be interesting to see benchmarks on both device running same software. Just wanted to see whether the battery health has a role in phones performance.

    @Zeusssss307@Zeusssss307Ай бұрын
    • Battery health under 79 and below has an income above it has no income

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • Actually since iPhone 5S onwards due to improved performance they aren't unusable like the 4S or 4 on the latest iOS versions. Since XR series on wards they are still very good like what you found in the video, very usable. Atleast this is what I noticed.

    @randomscience4k@randomscience4kАй бұрын
    • Even the 5 is still useable on the latest software it runs, the 4s, iPad 2, iPad mini 1 where the last devices with those issues…

      @Eddy_E.@Eddy_E.Ай бұрын
    • @@Eddy_E. The iPad 2, even on the latest version, had great performance, but most of it was used for games without the Internet, and this is what maintained its performance.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • I think RAM and battery condition are most likely culprits for most people on later upgrades of iOS.

    @tonep3168@tonep3168Ай бұрын
  • Upgraded my XS last September! Broken screen, 72% battery & full memory but still an amazing device!!!!!

    @pennymikk@pennymikkАй бұрын
  • Great video what about updating the both phones to iOS 17 and then rerunning the test?

    @LondonCityEvents@LondonCityEventsАй бұрын
  • They don't optimze new iOS versions for older screens anymore, so everything feels cramped. I think that is the noticable difference.

    @HelloSwiftful@HelloSwiftfulАй бұрын
  • inaccurate, use the same colour and storage for +5% performance

    @bluezenither7043@bluezenither7043Ай бұрын
  • What about updating the old one to iOS 17 and trying these tests again?

    @nicholasdavies168@nicholasdavies168Ай бұрын
  • woah nice this was such a nice video!

    @Itsraminstech@ItsraminstechАй бұрын
  • 5 minutes ago gang where u at

    @MrShkafkupe@MrShkafkupeАй бұрын
    • im here bro 5 min gang forever

      @Sevory_type_beat@Sevory_type_beatАй бұрын
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      @philippeggmann9809@philippeggmann9809Ай бұрын
    • 1h gang 😅

      @FuckMargaretThatchher@FuckMargaretThatchherАй бұрын
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    @eraldway@eraldwayАй бұрын
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      @Sevory_type_beat@Sevory_type_beatАй бұрын
  • what would happen if you Update the New iPhone 10 to the most current iOS? & run all the test again.

    @duanebrankley8984@duanebrankley8984Ай бұрын
  • I suggest trying the same test with the storage (partially) filled up. It's probably throttling itself once storage gets fuller because it runs out of swap space or something.

    @declanashmore@declanashmoreАй бұрын
  • i would love to see a comparison of the new iphone xs with the latest ios vs old iPhone xs with the latest ios!

    @PraveenKumarBalakumar@PraveenKumarBalakumarАй бұрын
  • Good job with the video. I think the batteries are where the devices differ. Maybe if the used phone had a battery replacement, it would have run on full performance mode as compared to when it has less that 90% battery? maybe that was a factor?

    @SamuelSimeon@SamuelSimeonАй бұрын
  • so, as a person who has a couple of iphones in the collection and used them as dailies for a while, i haven't really noticed any CPU slowdown, BUT the phones get considerably hotter with each new update and become way worse at multitasking, bc the new OS versions take up more RAM. For example, even on ios 15.7 my iphone x struggles to keep some apps (KZhead, Telegram, Discord, etc.) in the same state i left them even when switching out for a minute or two, and that's extremely frustrating

    @AlexGFrank@AlexGFrankАй бұрын
  • It might be interesting to update the software on the new phone to the same one as the old phone to see if the change in OS contributes to the slowdown.

    @CosmicHiccup11@CosmicHiccup11Ай бұрын
    • yes

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • I still use a 1st gen SE for some things, and i only bought an iPhone X last year. To me they both seem at least functionally fine. But then i do switch them off all the time, and i have reset the SE a few times. I know people love their tech (i certainly do), but i am still amazed to think that other people don't even turn their phones off at night. Is this common?

    @BaddBadger@BaddBadgerАй бұрын
  • I have a new sealed 3GS that i plan on trying someday, no idea how that will fair or even if it will work. Thanks for the video.

    @gtretroworld@gtretroworldАй бұрын
  • I have an iphone 7 since launch and it's falling apart... Losing network during calls, wifi connectivity issues from time to time, gets really hot while using certain apps like the camera, instagram e.t.c... Quite slow in general and it's due for an upgrade.

    @OJxiii@OJxiiiАй бұрын
  • I got a Xs-max when it was new, I kept it till earlier this year,and it never slowed down at all even though all updates,I upgraded earlier this year to a 15pro-max. Also had a Samsung s-10 when it was new and also upgraded that this year as well with a s-24u. (One is my personal phone the other is my business phone.)

    @nuclearchef-san8304@nuclearchef-san8304Ай бұрын
  • keep in mind too that there are slight differences in performance via the silicon lottery comparing two processors even if they are the same kind.

    @richmahogany1710@richmahogany1710Ай бұрын
  • There are some differences sure but that could be anything, maybe not the OS itself but maybe given the older phone has more apps running in the background and so on, i am not sure you need to upgrade to the latest one after seeing this

    @volvofreak86@volvofreak86Ай бұрын
  • my xs is weird, anything that has to do with the camera lags. not the camera itself but for example in instagram when you swipe to the camera section it just lags for few seconds. and when you close the camera the phone will lag again for a moment. Ive reset it 2 times but well i guess its time for a new one

    @vita007@vita007Ай бұрын
  • I think it would be interesting to fully update the new phone and run all the same tests considering the difference in battery health as well. Then set it up identically as the old one is. All the same apps and everything and run them again. Then look at all that data.

    @axllebeer@axllebeer26 күн бұрын
  • i use an iPhone Xs as my main phone. when should i upgrade if i want the newest ios versions

    @mcbeseralsfortnite@mcbeseralsfortniteАй бұрын
  • What’s a good imei checker to check if the device has been activated or not

    @vahagy6579@vahagy6579Ай бұрын
  • And you know what the best thing about ios 12 on the old xs is? It has the original 3d touch and live wallpapers. So nostalgic. i have 2 iphone 8 Plus both brand new on ios 11 and one 7 plus on ios 10

    @MarsPLAYStudio@MarsPLAYStudioАй бұрын
  • I think it does if you update to the latest version of iOS. Basically the version of iOS your phone comes with out the box is the most ideal version you’ll ever have. It’s been written specifically for that device, while being fitted and adapted to every device prior to that years device. So if you want to keep your phone running in tip top shape, don’t ever update past the current year of iOS and get a new battery every year of two. Otherwise yeah it slows down over time.

    @Farrell0208@Farrell0208Ай бұрын
  • My iPhone X just randomly stopped responding to touch no matter how many hard resets and factory resets and 2 DFUs I did, I replaced it with an iPhone XS Max and i really hope they give it one more cycle of iOS support because they are great phones at a very good price on eBay

    @ColinsCity@ColinsCityАй бұрын
  • I wanted to know if the Old iPhone running on The newer iOS was heating up more than the iPhone running on the previous version of iOS, doing the same tasks..

    @gauravjha8938@gauravjha8938Ай бұрын
  • The thing most people don't think about is the hardware requirements newer OS' have. Older phones update the OS but you cannot upgrade the hardware.

    @dylanboivin2645@dylanboivin264513 күн бұрын
  • I believe the main problem is RAM. My first gen iPad Mini hasn't been usable in years. I'm still using an iPad Air 2, but it's starting to drag its feet and it's especially noticeable when using Safari. Apps like KZhead tend to run fine even on older devices, but the web sites we browse and the ads displayed on them become take up more and more RAM. When RAM is getting full, the system has to do extra work to figure out what resources can be unloaded and where to collect garbage etc. In addition, new versions of iOS add more system features that take up more RAM and you probably have some apps that do background processing. With that said, I removed a lot of apps that I didn't use regularly from the iPad and it didn't really speed up. I can still have KZhead and Safari side by side on it, but loading a heavy web page will make the video stutter. In comparison, my 12.9" iPad Pro (2nd gen) is still smooth for everyday tasks like browsing etc.

    @jmunkki@jmunkkiАй бұрын
  • I was very confused with the reference to new and old phone, was it the new and old software or the new/old phone you were refering?

    @philiprogers5772@philiprogers5772Ай бұрын
  • Fortunately, i happened to just switch from my iPhone X from 2017 (which actually is 6yrs. old!) to an iPhone 15 Pro! I did have all my apps downloaded from iCloud back onto my new phone. My new iPhone 15 Pro absolutely does feel faster. And i'm not talking about benchmarks but actually using it. Opening up the app store, scrolling through apps, websites, opening anything up goes faster actually. I should say though, i don't know how much the battery is responsible for the phone maybe slowing down.

    @DBLCreations@DBLCreationsАй бұрын
  • how does the brand new one compare to the old one with the same ios installed?

    @HannesHerrmann-tw6om@HannesHerrmann-tw6omАй бұрын
  • apple actually did come out and say yes we do slow down your phones slightly but only to keep the good battery life as the battery degrades overtime

    @user-pg5uv9do8n@user-pg5uv9do8nАй бұрын
    • and i hope you dont believe this ! if you do, then ure a blind fanboy, like someone defending their mommy

      @ciller98@ciller98Ай бұрын
    • It is basically slow. Why should we fear for the battery of an old device? I prefer to change the battery on a device, but now you will change an entire device.

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • As a guy daily driving a XS for 4 years, I'm still impressed how fast it is for every single task and how good the camera still is today. I haven't found a reason to upgrade yet because of how good it is and HOW PRETTY IT IZ COMPARED TO 11 TO 15. I mean... Gold XS is the prettiest iPhone

    @SantiagoSalse@SantiagoSalseАй бұрын
    • It is beautiful compared to what came before and after it, but the beauty will disappear with the next update

      @user-ue9sz5rj9w@user-ue9sz5rj9w18 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for making this comparison video, on that note rumor has it that Apple will soon be changing up their system so that when you buy any iPhone, it will automatically have the newest latest update software off the box.

    @Gilfordd@GilforddАй бұрын
  • Great video. Some really old iPhones are still usable while being slower, but can’t say the same for some Androids. 😅

    @angelestupinan7302@angelestupinan7302Ай бұрын
    • Have an S7 , though I don't use it anymore it still works perfectly. So stop spreading your lies.

      @nikkstar9970@nikkstar9970Ай бұрын
  • That’s an interesting comparison. I know it’s hard to control for all variables. I think adding New Phone+iOS 17, and possibly Old Phone+iOS 12, would control for hardware vs software as contributing factors to any performance variance.

    @Moustafa11@Moustafa1127 күн бұрын
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