A test and review of a standard type of wet sanding sponge for drywall and plaster. For dustless drywall repair.
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@Interior_Works3 жыл бұрын
Today, I cleaned the filter in my 25-year-old vacuum, and I brought it back upstairs, where I had been sanding. I turned it back on, and in a minute or two, I was in a cloud of drywall dust. The vacuum doesn't have a HEPA filter, which was a wake-up call for me. I searched and watched three hours of videos and searched online. I need a new vacuum and found a DeWalt model that has the ultrafilter that the government approves. So it's the Tyvek suit, dust mask 3M, head cover, foot covers, and breaks. I ordered the sponge shown here, and I will skim while waiting for the vacuum. The information about cancer and even heart attacks from prolonged exposure got me to make changes.
@counseloridealist22 күн бұрын
The wet sanding works well even in larger areas - it just takes a lot more work. The real benefit to this technique is that you don’t have dust everywhere.
@channelz46752 жыл бұрын
A vac sander will finish 10 times faster with even less dust. Wet sand works to blend, and for DYI where their wall looks like the sea and they think they did a good job.
@ChromeLuxx2 жыл бұрын
I’m a woman and have been wet sanding for years, I think it’s amazing, no dust and an amazing outcome.
@JustMe-hh6sl2 жыл бұрын
Must be a slow process? Its taking years?? lol
@terrythomas790 Жыл бұрын
For a DYIer who isn't a pro at skim coating, this method is spot on because we have asthma in my family and can't deal with too much dust.
@genienepernotto72018 ай бұрын
I use the wet method on most small or medium projects with great success but you have to do a good trowel job with minimal ridges, and you have to use the wet sponge just before the mud goes to a final set. I use 90 minute compound. The wet sponge melts the edges into a perfect feather edge and easily knocks down any medium height trowel ridges in the field. Give it another try with these two things in mind and I’m sure that you’ll use the sponge more often. Good luck!
@jimbow563 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test man....straight forward with no extra noise or glitz. Peace
@quietkey20034 жыл бұрын
I was just about to wait til the morning to try and sponge sand the ceiling. Thank the lord I watched your video....that taught me all I needed to know! 👍
@thepanda40672 жыл бұрын
Use it with fast drying mud (5min, 20min, etc). Apply your mud as good as you can, then let the mud dry until it is just pliable enough to be able to scrape lines or edges smoothly with your knife. That's when you can apply your wet sponge or rag. Wet all of it and pass your knife along the coat of mud, smoothing out edges and getting rid of lines. Then just let it dry and see if you need to apply another coat or if you can get away with sanding away any small imperfection. Things to note: it is harder to wet sand mud when it has fully cured- that is why I suggest doing it before it dries fully. Also, the mud dries at different speeds in different sections. Sections with a thicker coat of mud- say the middle- may take longer to dry, whereas if you are doing a repair on a glossy wall and you don't either sand off the gloss or apply a primer on it before applying your mud, then mud that is touching the gloss will take longer to dry- and this usually leads to it coming will wet sanding, which means trouble when you are trying to smooth out your edges. It takes getting used to.
@huuamai81513 жыл бұрын
It's a finishing grit. It says it on the package. It isn't meant to take off a lot of material
@deadnthehead45572 жыл бұрын
I am going to use an orbital snader with a vacuum attached and 200 grit. Hopefully that will be a good technique
@ValentinoRossFan46 Жыл бұрын
The idea is the moisture in the sponge will soften the exterior layers of the mud and slowly smooth it with the friction of the sponge. It takes longer than standard sanding for sure. You need to do it way longer than you showed in the video. The upside is if you are in an area you can’t have dust, this is how you do it. Patience.
@ge0ne03 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d call that a success considering how little dust it creates, I know it won’t be perfect, but if it takes out the large widgets and can always go back with a sander. At least less dusty
@tonygoshive785 Жыл бұрын
I think the process works well enough, good for small patches for sure. The lesson I learned is that it will only smooth a surface, won't easily flatten bumps or ridges, so have to mud with that in mind. For larger areas that need to be dust free I still prefer the sander - vacuum attachments I found at Home Depot.
@Interior_Works Жыл бұрын
Press harder and use more water and it will work fine. I use it all the time. Love it!
@GOPHANDLE Жыл бұрын
Thanks, good advice. That was my first time trying this method, I've used it a few more times since and I think now it's a good method for sanding patches and repairs, when dust is an issue.
@Interior_Works Жыл бұрын
It's good for feathering edges
@StrongEye2 жыл бұрын
Very cool..Please provide me with the link to buy from now line. My heartfelt greetings from Saudi Arabia
@user-xu7yq1ud2z3 жыл бұрын
Looks like this route requires more water, patience, and a lot of elbow grease, but zero containment with Plastic and drop Cloths and worrying about Dust getting anywhere or everywhere.
@jccohen9626 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@jonathanmiller36132 ай бұрын
Quality product
@garyhoward21869 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks my man. 👍
@mookeythepimpthompson60314 жыл бұрын
IMO this method is best for final feathering in not flattening that mess you started with
@mskehan194 жыл бұрын
I agree, exactly as stated in the video
@Interior_Works4 жыл бұрын
Lol..
@riinzamai33694 жыл бұрын
I’m with you. I tried it and was so disappointed. It’s too soft to make a flat plane, it just takes EVERYTHING off and smears it.
@lb37242 жыл бұрын
Cripe can even use a wet hand cloth just gotta shape it up
@123theluvguru Жыл бұрын
Its different and takes practice, but I swear by this technique. When I did my dining room, I ended up with a non taper butt joint in the wall (DUH!) but I dare anyone to find it :)
@NilezII2 жыл бұрын
so do you wait until the compound is dry, or do you do it when it is still wet?
@Salharmonic14 жыл бұрын
Compound needs to be applied smoother and only feather edges buffed ( blended to dissapear) once fully cured...This tool actually works well when the mudding is done correctly contrary to what some people say and was designed for feather edges not entire areas, thats what trowels and putty knives are for
@jeffwindover99163 жыл бұрын
It's for finishing and should be used with a finishing compound and was not intended to make a poor drywall job suddenly look good.
@BeagleFerretTime2 жыл бұрын
What kind of finishing compound?
@elle70372 жыл бұрын
@@elle7037 Lite compound
@txmade4371 Жыл бұрын
Need to rinse off your sponge more often.
@stanlee76352 жыл бұрын
You are not using it right , that’s why is not working
@leninportes81674 жыл бұрын
How should it be used?
@chicox373 жыл бұрын
👍
@vichetsophap4 жыл бұрын
Maybe we suppose use less mudding than we normally use
@demarcobrazier84402 жыл бұрын
Good point
@vincentlinzy79592 жыл бұрын
All depends on the surface you're working on
@StrongEye2 жыл бұрын
You should not sand hot mud with a wet sponge.
@josephesposito42128 ай бұрын
YOUR SUPOSED TO WET SPONGE IT BEFORE THE MUD DRIES YA DONUT!!! 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩
@kristopherhasenbuhler53932 жыл бұрын
There's no instructions on the package 😂
@noelv19762 жыл бұрын
For hotmud/fast-set that chemically stiffens hard after 90 minutes, yes, wet sponge it then, before it dries, that makes sense. For pre-mixed mud, no that won't work. If I put a 1/3" thick spread of mud over a joint and try rubbing a sponge over it before it's completely dry, it will be a big mess. Since making this video I found using a spray bottle, dampen the surface, then rub the sponge over to smooth the surface works good. But I'd still rather just use a vacuum attached sander if dusts an issue vs wet sponge.
@Interior_Works2 жыл бұрын
Oh word? So that's how they do it. Thx
@michaelshapely98862 жыл бұрын
So it works really well for professional finishers not tapers😁
@Knowlege7774 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between a taper and a finisher? We just called them all the same word.
@michaelshapely98862 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the region, my area the trade name is "tapers". Other places it's Finishers, plasterers, mudders, and even "stoppers" in NZ I've heard.
@Interior_Works2 жыл бұрын
Well for pro plasterers n tapers ..like moi....54 years exp ...really tight final coats ...I can sand with my hand ..n it's perfect
@mjboux6559 Жыл бұрын
My Hyde dustless pole sander works better than anything! 100 dollars will make your life much much more better if you do this kind of stuff all the time
@MikeyMyerz2 жыл бұрын
I agree, a lot of repair jobs I've done in furnished living spaces would have been very difficult managing dust without this vacuum sander. The Richard brand sander I'm using in the video is the same as the Hyde. Hyde is branded as Richard in Canada. Good tools, I use their knives too.
@Interior_Works2 жыл бұрын
Think of the time you saved from cleaning up dust!
@davemcdonald87902 жыл бұрын
"I'm new at this so I'm not very good at it" produces suboptimal results "Yea so it's not good" ????
@tleytekАй бұрын
I'm replicating what the average DIY homeowner can expect with this method to sand their little patch or whatever. Everyone clicking on this video will also be "new" to the method, and I'm showing what they can expect when they try it for the first time. Even then, there's nothing to even learn or become "experienced" with this method beyond the first 5 minutes of using it, you moisten a sponge and rub the wall. Do you understand now? I threw it in the garbage after, because when dust is an issue a vacuum sander is 100x faster than a wet sponge.
@Interior_WorksАй бұрын
If you did that mud job try paying someone that knows what they are doing. I barely sand cause I know how to put mud on. If you leave huge gobs of mud in the wall its going to be a pain in the ass getting it off. Anyway less is more take your time with your coats and you won't have such a bitch of a time with finish coats.
@wmc2230 Жыл бұрын
Good advice. The mud job was deliberately a bit rough to challenge the wet sanding process. I figured most DIY mud jobs are a bit rough, and diy'ers would be the target audience.
@Interior_Works Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt use this to be honest just use a normal pole sander is better
@robertcastillo4223 жыл бұрын
But how does they take care of the dust ?
@ishtlutz12612 жыл бұрын
A little more care with the mud would be in order. Putting it on sloppy just to sand it off again is dumb on many levels.
@moogleguser49086 ай бұрын
Yes, but I mudded that patch and bought the sponge specifically for the video. If I mudded it perfectly, there'd be nothing to sand I wouldn't be able to make the Video.
@Interior_Works6 ай бұрын
Everybody is new at something at some point.
@jonathanmiller36132 ай бұрын
LMAO! It's not for field sanding. It's for feathering edges. And even for that, it's a joke.
@SomeDumUsrName3 жыл бұрын
I use vacuum sanders myself. Like I said, I've never used a wet sponge prior, I have no shame to say this because this isn't a professional tool or method. I could easily have done a practice spot, learned what it does and doesn't do, then made a video.. Instead I made what I thought a diy mud job might look like, and just filmed the practice spot and showed what it does and doesn't do in real time, I have no ego issue to deliberately make this type of video.
@Interior_Works3 жыл бұрын
@@Interior_Works That's all really wonderful. What type of film do you use?
@SomeDumUsrName3 жыл бұрын
The sponge should be WET AND THE MUD CANT BE FULLY CURED IF YOU PLAN TO WET SPONGE. I DONT SAND MY DRYWALL. I WET SPONGE IT AND THERES LITERALLY NOTHING TO SAND SKIM COAT SKIM CIAT SKIM COAT, LESS IS MORE, I DO LEVEL 5 FINISH ON MOST OF MY WORK AND IVE PURCHASED 1 SANDING BLOCK AND IT HAS LASTED ME AROUND 500 SHEETS OF DRYWALL THIS YEAR. NOW I GOTTA MAKE A VIDEO OF HOW TO DO THIS BEFORE I HAVE A HEART ATTACK FROM PEOPLE SPONGING FULLY CURED WALLS🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for watching. Don't forget to *SUBSCRIBE,* I'm going to keep making new videos. Hit the *LIKE* button if you found this video helpful.
Today, I cleaned the filter in my 25-year-old vacuum, and I brought it back upstairs, where I had been sanding. I turned it back on, and in a minute or two, I was in a cloud of drywall dust. The vacuum doesn't have a HEPA filter, which was a wake-up call for me. I searched and watched three hours of videos and searched online. I need a new vacuum and found a DeWalt model that has the ultrafilter that the government approves. So it's the Tyvek suit, dust mask 3M, head cover, foot covers, and breaks. I ordered the sponge shown here, and I will skim while waiting for the vacuum. The information about cancer and even heart attacks from prolonged exposure got me to make changes.
The wet sanding works well even in larger areas - it just takes a lot more work. The real benefit to this technique is that you don’t have dust everywhere.
A vac sander will finish 10 times faster with even less dust. Wet sand works to blend, and for DYI where their wall looks like the sea and they think they did a good job.
I’m a woman and have been wet sanding for years, I think it’s amazing, no dust and an amazing outcome.
Must be a slow process? Its taking years?? lol
For a DYIer who isn't a pro at skim coating, this method is spot on because we have asthma in my family and can't deal with too much dust.
I use the wet method on most small or medium projects with great success but you have to do a good trowel job with minimal ridges, and you have to use the wet sponge just before the mud goes to a final set. I use 90 minute compound. The wet sponge melts the edges into a perfect feather edge and easily knocks down any medium height trowel ridges in the field. Give it another try with these two things in mind and I’m sure that you’ll use the sponge more often. Good luck!
Thanks for the test man....straight forward with no extra noise or glitz. Peace
I was just about to wait til the morning to try and sponge sand the ceiling. Thank the lord I watched your video....that taught me all I needed to know! 👍
Use it with fast drying mud (5min, 20min, etc). Apply your mud as good as you can, then let the mud dry until it is just pliable enough to be able to scrape lines or edges smoothly with your knife. That's when you can apply your wet sponge or rag. Wet all of it and pass your knife along the coat of mud, smoothing out edges and getting rid of lines. Then just let it dry and see if you need to apply another coat or if you can get away with sanding away any small imperfection. Things to note: it is harder to wet sand mud when it has fully cured- that is why I suggest doing it before it dries fully. Also, the mud dries at different speeds in different sections. Sections with a thicker coat of mud- say the middle- may take longer to dry, whereas if you are doing a repair on a glossy wall and you don't either sand off the gloss or apply a primer on it before applying your mud, then mud that is touching the gloss will take longer to dry- and this usually leads to it coming will wet sanding, which means trouble when you are trying to smooth out your edges. It takes getting used to.
It's a finishing grit. It says it on the package. It isn't meant to take off a lot of material
I am going to use an orbital snader with a vacuum attached and 200 grit. Hopefully that will be a good technique
The idea is the moisture in the sponge will soften the exterior layers of the mud and slowly smooth it with the friction of the sponge. It takes longer than standard sanding for sure. You need to do it way longer than you showed in the video. The upside is if you are in an area you can’t have dust, this is how you do it. Patience.
Personally I’d call that a success considering how little dust it creates, I know it won’t be perfect, but if it takes out the large widgets and can always go back with a sander. At least less dusty
I think the process works well enough, good for small patches for sure. The lesson I learned is that it will only smooth a surface, won't easily flatten bumps or ridges, so have to mud with that in mind. For larger areas that need to be dust free I still prefer the sander - vacuum attachments I found at Home Depot.
Press harder and use more water and it will work fine. I use it all the time. Love it!
Thanks, good advice. That was my first time trying this method, I've used it a few more times since and I think now it's a good method for sanding patches and repairs, when dust is an issue.
It's good for feathering edges
Very cool..Please provide me with the link to buy from now line. My heartfelt greetings from Saudi Arabia
Looks like this route requires more water, patience, and a lot of elbow grease, but zero containment with Plastic and drop Cloths and worrying about Dust getting anywhere or everywhere.
Thanks for the video
Quality product
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks my man. 👍
IMO this method is best for final feathering in not flattening that mess you started with
I agree, exactly as stated in the video
Lol..
I’m with you. I tried it and was so disappointed. It’s too soft to make a flat plane, it just takes EVERYTHING off and smears it.
Cripe can even use a wet hand cloth just gotta shape it up
Its different and takes practice, but I swear by this technique. When I did my dining room, I ended up with a non taper butt joint in the wall (DUH!) but I dare anyone to find it :)
so do you wait until the compound is dry, or do you do it when it is still wet?
Compound needs to be applied smoother and only feather edges buffed ( blended to dissapear) once fully cured...This tool actually works well when the mudding is done correctly contrary to what some people say and was designed for feather edges not entire areas, thats what trowels and putty knives are for
It's for finishing and should be used with a finishing compound and was not intended to make a poor drywall job suddenly look good.
What kind of finishing compound?
@@elle7037 Lite compound
Need to rinse off your sponge more often.
You are not using it right , that’s why is not working
How should it be used?
👍
Maybe we suppose use less mudding than we normally use
Good point
All depends on the surface you're working on
You should not sand hot mud with a wet sponge.
YOUR SUPOSED TO WET SPONGE IT BEFORE THE MUD DRIES YA DONUT!!! 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩 🍩
There's no instructions on the package 😂
For hotmud/fast-set that chemically stiffens hard after 90 minutes, yes, wet sponge it then, before it dries, that makes sense. For pre-mixed mud, no that won't work. If I put a 1/3" thick spread of mud over a joint and try rubbing a sponge over it before it's completely dry, it will be a big mess. Since making this video I found using a spray bottle, dampen the surface, then rub the sponge over to smooth the surface works good. But I'd still rather just use a vacuum attached sander if dusts an issue vs wet sponge.
Oh word? So that's how they do it. Thx
So it works really well for professional finishers not tapers😁
Is there a difference between a taper and a finisher? We just called them all the same word.
I think it depends on the region, my area the trade name is "tapers". Other places it's Finishers, plasterers, mudders, and even "stoppers" in NZ I've heard.
Well for pro plasterers n tapers ..like moi....54 years exp ...really tight final coats ...I can sand with my hand ..n it's perfect
My Hyde dustless pole sander works better than anything! 100 dollars will make your life much much more better if you do this kind of stuff all the time
I agree, a lot of repair jobs I've done in furnished living spaces would have been very difficult managing dust without this vacuum sander. The Richard brand sander I'm using in the video is the same as the Hyde. Hyde is branded as Richard in Canada. Good tools, I use their knives too.
Think of the time you saved from cleaning up dust!
"I'm new at this so I'm not very good at it" produces suboptimal results "Yea so it's not good" ????
I'm replicating what the average DIY homeowner can expect with this method to sand their little patch or whatever. Everyone clicking on this video will also be "new" to the method, and I'm showing what they can expect when they try it for the first time. Even then, there's nothing to even learn or become "experienced" with this method beyond the first 5 minutes of using it, you moisten a sponge and rub the wall. Do you understand now? I threw it in the garbage after, because when dust is an issue a vacuum sander is 100x faster than a wet sponge.
If you did that mud job try paying someone that knows what they are doing. I barely sand cause I know how to put mud on. If you leave huge gobs of mud in the wall its going to be a pain in the ass getting it off. Anyway less is more take your time with your coats and you won't have such a bitch of a time with finish coats.
Good advice. The mud job was deliberately a bit rough to challenge the wet sanding process. I figured most DIY mud jobs are a bit rough, and diy'ers would be the target audience.
I wouldnt use this to be honest just use a normal pole sander is better
But how does they take care of the dust ?
A little more care with the mud would be in order. Putting it on sloppy just to sand it off again is dumb on many levels.
Yes, but I mudded that patch and bought the sponge specifically for the video. If I mudded it perfectly, there'd be nothing to sand I wouldn't be able to make the Video.
Everybody is new at something at some point.
LMAO! It's not for field sanding. It's for feathering edges. And even for that, it's a joke.
I use vacuum sanders myself. Like I said, I've never used a wet sponge prior, I have no shame to say this because this isn't a professional tool or method. I could easily have done a practice spot, learned what it does and doesn't do, then made a video.. Instead I made what I thought a diy mud job might look like, and just filmed the practice spot and showed what it does and doesn't do in real time, I have no ego issue to deliberately make this type of video.
@@Interior_Works That's all really wonderful. What type of film do you use?
The sponge should be WET AND THE MUD CANT BE FULLY CURED IF YOU PLAN TO WET SPONGE. I DONT SAND MY DRYWALL. I WET SPONGE IT AND THERES LITERALLY NOTHING TO SAND SKIM COAT SKIM CIAT SKIM COAT, LESS IS MORE, I DO LEVEL 5 FINISH ON MOST OF MY WORK AND IVE PURCHASED 1 SANDING BLOCK AND IT HAS LASTED ME AROUND 500 SHEETS OF DRYWALL THIS YEAR. NOW I GOTTA MAKE A VIDEO OF HOW TO DO THIS BEFORE I HAVE A HEART ATTACK FROM PEOPLE SPONGING FULLY CURED WALLS🤣🤣🤣