HARDEST FENCE POSTS EVER - Never seen anything like it!
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Hit the first hiccup on the new fencing.. these posts are too good! Trying out the new fencing stapler from Milwaukee was my optimistic answer but is it enough?
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10 years ago I went to prison. The last video I was watching of yours was the one where you were insulting the floor. I have ALOT to catch up on!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
You could always drill pilot holes for the staples 😂
I did some fencing in Australia using hardwood posts like that. We drilled through each post with a auger bit and fed high tensile wire trough the hole. It’s sound like a hard job but when you get a system sorted it flys up. For the pig net fences it was the same with the wire then we tied the netting to the strained wire using small lengths of mild steel wire as little wrap around ties.
I had a Robinia tree in my garden in west oz, nightmarish root system...
Hey Team. The floor joists of our 130 year old home are original local hardwood. They are like rock to work with. Jarrah is from Western Australia and is hard. Love your work 👍
Wow that is stunning lumber!
I've always been Chestnut all the way, such a good option for rot resistance, never heard of Robinia in this scenario or knew it was available in such quantity either, every day's a school day - good luck ! Farm channel - subscribed - thanks for the reminder !
Good stuff!
Amazing ❤ Nice to know that Robinia has hidden strength underneath her vicious spines ☺️🥰.
On the new posts there seemed to be a lot of energy waisted as the gun was bouncing back off of the wood. Try holding the gun firmer against the post and forcing all the energy towards the timber. Hope this works.
Yeah tried full weight on and no luck. As long as the 40mm get 3/4 the way in I’m happy.
Could you pilot them with a small diameter drill bit? Bit more hassle but less physical work than hammering hundreds of staples
Impressively hard wood! You let the youtuber magpie eye lead you to team red, I'd be interested to see how the DeWalt stands up, it's obviously a challenging wood to work with.
Tim Thomson did a review on the davos fencing clip , based on a Tek screw as an alternative to staples. Could be a solution if you can get them over here
Hold a heavy sledge behind each post when driving the staples
Start with the nail gun then finish driving the staple with a framing hammer with a “milled” face, that’s what I ended up doing. Not optimal but still beats any other option I could think of. Best of luck!
Those 40mm staples go in plenty. Better left proud on intermediate posts easier to remove and doesn't damage the wire. Just tie off at strainers, easy peasy
Jarrah is one of the eucalyptus family and will sink if dropped in deep water. It’s used in Australia quite a lot as it’s one of the timbers termites won’t touch,so I’m told. (Think termite dentists get very busy if there patients attempt to eat it.) I’ve used pieces of it for different jobs but it’s like machining steel, cutters and saw blades don’t stay sharp long. It also stinks to high heaven when cutting/machining. Don’t know what the answer is for your stapling, Piloting would make a long job in to a very long job but it may be the way to go. Best of luck with it all whichever way you go.
Wood that sinks is impressive.
Good luck with those fence post's 1500 meters of fencing that will test the new nail gun. keep up the good work, Take care👍
I've just subscribed to your DIY Farm channel, I'll start watching them
I believe in the US black locust fence posts are installed green. The only issue with this is the posts sometimes root and start growing trees. 😄
No way! 😂
I've made my bathroom vanity from Robinia, and it didn't struck me as being much harder than oak. It does have a tendensy to warp though.
What 😮 a bathroom mirror as a posed to a timber fence, are you for real
@@jimgeelan5949 Not the mirror, but the cabinet the wash bowl sits on. If grown to larger diameter it produces some beautiful wood that can be used for furniture.
The harder the wood the shorter nail you need. As you discovered I'm the video. That's very unfortunate they don't make shorter nails. My question is, could you use non Milwaukee nails? That are shorter? Or these exclusive nails that the Milwaukee shoots?
I wonder if you had tried "toe nailing" the staples into those hard posts. So instead of 90 degrees slant it at 45 or sharper. Just a thought that it might help as your not cutting all the fibers all the way in at there hardest angle. Thanks for posting
Will exchange the posts for something less dense?
It looks like you could lean harder against the recoil? That might drive them in the extra couple of mm?
Are you on drugs ?
Where did you get the posts from? I need to put up a few fences myself soon.
These were from a place in Taunton. They are the main Robinia importer I believe, very helpful. Jack is the contact. 👍
Predrill?
I wonder if you spray staples with WD40 or a similar lubricant, might get the extra few mm into the wood
Slightly off topic but I’m curious about the heated gilet, you mentioned it was Milwaukee… Is good and was it worth paying the extra for it being branded..?
Jo loves it. No doubt others do the same job but there was something more reassuring about a well known branded battery being strapped to my wife on the school run than a lesser known brand. 😂
You cud drill holes into post put wire in and fence post wire tiner
Try stainless steel staples for hammer use, they are very much tougher than the standard ones. I noticed you were allowing the gun to recoil away from the post in the first test, this will result in an under driven staple, you have to lean on them.
I did a bunch of tests with full weight on it and it wasn’t having any of it. Thankfully I think the 40mm are fine and have tested pulling the 30mm and they are going nowhere so still options available. 👍
I don't drive staples all the way in as you never know if you have to take them out.
Ooooh ! .... Shiny fings 😁
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I used 25mm staples, 40 seems like overkill... The more times you hit a nail the hotter it gets and the softer it becomes. Maybe those posts ain't for banging.. It's a drill and screw eye situation.
Can you buy non shanked version should be easier to drive as the timber is hard they should not pullout
The basic density is, on average, 0.74 g/cm³ at 15 % wood moisture content. On heavier side of hardwoods
Suggest that you drill holes and stretch wire through and use wire tensioner, then just fix the sheep wire onto that. The life of the Milwaukee stapler would be severely shortened. Or send it to your service center for a new hammer pin and service when finished so you get a longer life out of the stapler. The hardest timber is Lignum Vitae, harder than concrete, think this is close to that. Wear think rubber gloves when using the stapler as the high shocks would be reduced. Robinia weed effectively so idea is to greatly reduce the stocks in europe.
Surely a staple embedded to the hilt has the same pull-out strength as the partially embedded staple in the stupidly-hard new posts: because it's the same amount of energy being used to embed them. The issue of them sticking out is only cosmetic, unless you need them to grip the wire (which is nice but not essential, surely). I'd say do a rip-out test and I bet you can't get them out, no matter what you try - meaning they'll hold the fence for 100 years.
You could always pre drill lol
Yeah the dewalt is generally better in hard woods, the fly wheel design somehow works better on hard woods then soft woods. We use them both.
Hoping to borrow the Dewalt to try a few side by side out of curiosity. The flywheel design takes a bit of getting used to as this one is more like my other nailers and more instant.
@@TheRestorationCouple yeah, i too have mainly hikoki but i use 16gauge with hard woods as well as fences for which we have dewalts now. But would be nice to see a comparison on the robinia since it is a wood we have been thinking off
You need to reach out to stockade
Time fur the bug stuff. Hilti is the gun you need. Mind you will have a sore hand /arm at the end of the day. 👍
Didn't know they did a stapler! Will have a look
Maybe you should try a Dewalt post nailer.
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I find the new staples are very poor quality compared to the ones from years ago
To be fair, those tornado staples do seem fairly decent in terms of strength but I imagine the old ones had a better galv. Pull out plenty of old ones here that have held up great for decades.
@@TheRestorationCouple if I can get some old ones out I reuse them where I can but I’m normally only repairing small sections not doing as much as you are , pop a few old ones out and compare them just for interest
Always worth wearing goggles when using any type of nail gun..
Love it... there's Tom & Rob who have been helping you out and have a DeWalt fencing staple gun and following their lead you decide to go down the path of every other youtube 'tool tart' by going for the Milwalki! Sadly during my work I've come across more and more people in the trades that have become so disillusioned with that particular brand. Perhaps that's why they give so much of their stuff away to many of the bigger content providers (who doesn't love a freebie eh?) who rave about their latestes acquisition... 🙄 Sorry to see you got suckered into buying that stapler with your own cash and are now reaping the rewards of that decision... just saying.🤔