The RTX 4090...
there is a lot to say about this card. Both good an bad, I will be going over all of those things in this video. Let me know in the comments, if you would even bother owning a card like this, or would you sell it for something more reasonable?
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-KJ
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0:00 Intro
1:11 #1 PCISIG/Nvidia
4:17 #2 Power
5:13 #3 $$$
6:13 #4 Size Matters
7:45 #5 Excellent Gaming
10:31 #6 Temps
12:17 #7 Content Creation/Professional use
14:00 #8-9-10 with rant/conclusion
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I am so bad at telling people to like or comment, so here is the reminder if you enjoyed the video 😅 Also at 1:20 there's some missing text I forgot to add in. It should have said: "There have been many disagreements on this issue across multiple creators". My B Thanks everyone.
No reminders are necessary. The like button should be hit right after anyone clicks on your videos
@@anthonywaldrep5982 Haha your the best Anthony. 🙏🙏
Thanks for your story. I feel I lucked out getting mine more recently missing the whole adapter mess with Cablemod etc. I think they should change the connector but it's an amazing card. I max out 1440P now native, will possibly go 4K in the future. I still prefer the 4090 FE to my 7900XTX, but I can see a lot of people using something like a 7800XT and just FSR/be happy at the midrange. Thanks for the video.
What CPU you have?
@@jose131991 12900KF
I got a 4090 at launch, and have paired it up with a 13700k as well as an ultrawide oled monitor. It's actually insane.
Yeah it's more than enough in almost every situation.
I have a 4090 but a i7-1100k and is bottlenecking the card even at 4K. Doesn’t help that newer AAA games are all cpu intensive
@@jose131991 Wasn't the 11th Generation Intel CPU really just a myth? You actually owns a i7 1100k??!! 😀
@@jose131991@jose131991 was a bad time to buy intel. Even an older 5800x was faster in gaming at the time. While costing much less.
The 13700K is not enough CPU for a 4090. But then, neither are the 7800X3D or the 14900K. The 4090 is awesome, but if the sword is too heavy to properly swing, what good is it?
A 4090 is literally a mortgage payment for some people!🤣🤣
It really is! It's more than mine actually haha
Not if you're buying in 2024... then it's like half of one 😬
& The maintenance needed on these cards lol. It definitely feels like you can't just plug and play with a 4090, there's so much seemingly that goes into even running it. Of course it runs great but man the stuff you have to monitor on a 4090 is wild (in comparison)
lol I could buy 2 4090s every month for the price of my mortgage.
@@joelv4495 👀
I have an asus tuff 4090 I love it but in all reality I'm still healing from my kidney transplant donation
😅😂 I don't want to laugh, because I can't be to sure...
@@techwandoUSDon't worry though, it was a "donation" 😈
I bought a 1080ti w/ i7/7700k back 7 years ago or sumthn. And thats how I plan to purchase when it comes to teh 5090. Even if its $2500 and lasts 5 years. Thats $500/year I spent to damn near guarantee I wont have to address upgrading anytime soon. I have a motto. "Buy once, cry once." And it rarely lets me down
Great motto, also sick to see how your 1080ti system served you. Appreciate your comment.
Same.
I never cried...but the nagging lasts awhile......
That's a great motto holy shit
Yup, I'm getting the 5090 and the Zen 5 when they launch. Can't wait🤩
I think we're getting to the point of diminished returns as these cards become gargantuan. A new series of cards every two years doesn't allow enough time to shrink the die sizes. Pretty soon, we're all going to he buying cases according to how large the GPU is going to be
100% agree on the timeline, it would be nice to see a 3 year cycle, give us a little more time. Seems like AMD might be doing just that this year ironically. Nvidia is producing too much money to want to stop. I really hope the cards don't get much bigger too 😬
And need their own nuclear plant to power it.
I've been buying nvidia for twenty years. The releases used to be yearly. Sometimes twice in the same year two different series.
@@yjzep9922 They were certainly less eventful too back then. They'd just slight out releases randomly. Since the 700 series it's been a lot more "formal" or predictable.
Needed it to run a 7680x2160 monitor for sim racing. I don't feel lucky or blessed lol, I work my ass off, and spent 2 decades being working poor before my endeavors paid off enough that I can easily buy a $2400 gpu (white rog strix...) in my mid 40s... I also drive a mid tier pickup with 200k miles. Buddy of mine spent more on Taylor Swift tix for his wife and daughter lol.... and that's 1 night.
It's funny you mention the pickup, I almost left in a second describing the 2013 Honda fit I drive. The video was just getting to long. All I will say is, hey man... whatever makes you happy. PCs are if anything kinda an affordable hobby when you start to look at car parts, camera gear etc. Appreciate the comment.
@@techwandoUS I have a relatively pricey sim racing setup.. ihave about 15k in it including the pc. That might buy me tires and brakes for 1 real race season lol... and I mentioned the truck because i have friends who buy a new premium truck every 3 years, have a corvette, and a harley lol. so when they give me crap for how much i spend to " play games", I kinda laugh..
@@yjzep9922 yeah this is a cheap happy and well worth it. Also it's safe and we don't need to show wealth to others in public
After owning a 4090 for 6 months, all I can say is that if you can afford a 4090, you should get one.
its 2 years old better to wait for the 5000 series no point buying it now and regretting when you see the 5000 series. This gpu flagship should be bought when its released thats the only way to justify the price!
Worst time to buy one, 2 years old AND Price increased ..... it used to cost 2,300$ now its 3500$ in my country after all the sanctions and shit. Plus 5090 is close so might as well get that on release thats what i did when i got my 4090 just bought it on release and built a whole pc arpund it
@skilletbakes420 yea I did get my 4099 for $1100 on Facebook marketplace. The 5000 series will probably be a worthy upgrade. Still the 4090 has at least 4 more years of decent performance.
@@abeidsalim8008yuh just watch the 5060 ti do what the 4090 can and only cost 500 bones and only use 200 watts or less 😊
I will, in about 6-8 months for about 500-600 dollars 😊
Been so busy I haven't been able to watch any content. Im so happy that you are still going strong. Your channel is such a good watch. Very informative and entertaining.
Thanks Jesse. Always appreciate you bud.
Techwando : the 12-pin connector has smaller aluminium pins and thus smaller combined surface to transfer current than the 8-pin standarized has since 2006. As well the RTX 4090 has a TGP of 450 Watts when in reality it continuously eats anywhere from 540-580 Watts (=45-50 Amps of current) with max peaks up to 641 Watts. To give you a perspective....my Manli RTX 3080 Ti 12GB ate continuously 390 Watts (=32,5 Amps) with peaks up to 441 Watts. And my Corsair RM850x wasn't able to feed it despite connecting 2 separate PCI-EX cables in 2 x 8-pin on the GPU. I've measured and my PSU can continuously feed a max of 354 Watts through 2 x PCI-EX cables. Whereas my AMD RX 6900 XT, which I've upgraded to from my 3080 Ti, eats continuously around 250-275 Watts with peak up to 294 Watts....while being faster than my RTX 3080 Ti 12GB is every rasterized game today. I've measured them both extensively with current clamps and an osciloscop and then properly calculated the actual PWR consumptions. Nvidia GPU-s 3000 and 4000 series are less efficient and eat more PWR for less/equal performance compared to AMD 6000 and 7000 series. The 12-pin connector is a FLAWED DESIGN and it's Nvidias design and thus Nvidias fault because they should have tested it properly before releasing it into the wild.
Re: 12V connector: If you didn't feel or hear a click, it's not seated.
5090: Now with fire detector and daisy-chainable fire extinguishers!
Correct. Still doesn't stop them melting tho! The whole seating thing was their first shot at blaming consumers.
Great video and breakdown. I absolutely love my 4090, it's just a beast with everything I throw at it. I don't think I'm gonna even look at 5080/5090 and skip to the 6000 series at this point in another 3 years which is kinda insane when we look back at the 2 year upgrade cycle a lot of us are on with GPU's. Star Citizen is the only game in the future I'm really looking forward too that's demanding and it runs it fantastic. I just can't see needing an upgrade for many years to come. Yes, the price is high but I'm gonna get more years out of this card vs. all the cards I've owned over the past couple of decades.
Thank you, appreciate it. I think with the possibility of Nvidia having to limit the 5080 to the 4090 spec due to China (rumours) it's a good idea if you own a 4090 to definitely skip the 5000 series. I wish you many years of luck with your card my friend!
Out of all the cards I own and have own I love the 4090, it's so powerful but also quite efficient, however that connector is going to be something that will more than likely devalue these cards or make it a headache for every owner. I got my TUF 4090 day one and last week after 18 months of use the connector melted on it. I had to document and show it because it melted on both sides GPU and PSU side. The PSU side got fused and couldnt be unplugged. I work with high and low voltage electricity always plugged mine fully. I think what happens over time and this is probably unavoidable is that due to the high current going through the wires the plug gets warm and cold, warm and cold and the thin pins expand and contract increasing resistance in the connection and heat until it escalates one day. I've heard every theory from user error to plugs being rated only for 20 or 30 plugins per cable. It's just a bad design period. I like the idea of one plug to rule them all but any replacement of an already established proven method should be an improvement. This connector isn't over the standard 8 pin connector. I've abused those connectors plugging and unplugging them so much without any issues ever whereas with this one it's almost a given it will one day fail and now I cant leave my computer to render and walk away. That's a huge side effect imo.
Im on my second TUF 4090, melted connector as well.
@@Zwank36 Were you able to get a replacement relatively hassle free? I had an extended warranty with my local MC so they just gave me a new one. Got another TUf because I like the build quality and cooler especially.
100% spot on about the long term value. It's a shame you had to go through that, and I have also been saying the same thing. It feels inevitable. It will probably happen to a lot of them as time goes on. Probably right out of their warranty window 😅
@@TerraWare Bought from a brick and mortar store, had a replacement next day. Consumer protections very good in Australia.
What we really need to do is tell Nvidia to stop being so greedy and sabotaging their own products (already overpriced) so you have to buy another. Why hasn't anyone put the blame on Nvidia yet? This is clearly a problem that they created to make more sales.
it would help to also focus at what monitors one is using, as to where i am gaming on a 57" ultra wide with over 16 million pixels, where I need a RTX 4090 (which I have and love it)....
I've owned a 4090 TUF OC for a year and your points are spot on. It's a powerful card that the average consumer just doesn't really need. I've had to convince friends to not buy one simply because they just didn't need it. I had to get a replacement as I was having issues with driver crashing and thankfully my RMA experience was fast and great. They sent me a factory new replacement just under a week of diagnosing the issues with my card. During the down time of not having the card I had to use my 3080 ti and it just felt so different, once you get your hands on something like it, it's just hard to get off it.
Summed up the video right there...
Owning a high end card (7900xtx) for the first time I definitely developed thoughts about GPU maintenance and its longevity ("I invested so much, maybe I should change thermal pads at some point" etc.). The 4090 is in its own league but making such an investment comes with the expectation of having a free of issues, high quality experience in every way and a usage of at least 5 years. The reality is obviously different and I feel like the past 2 gens high end cards are more experiments than established, well tested products. Thats why I went all in and got the nitro+ top of the line model, just to minimize any quality issues..So far its been amazing, but not everyones GPU works well in their system. That said, this is a very nice review! I had to make my own (fairly short) researches and adjustments to make my 7900xtx work without issues (so far) and I hope u can enjoy your 4090 for as long as possible.
Appreciate the well written comment. Happy to hear you are having good experiences with the 7900XTX. Lately I hear nothing but good from the owners of that card. As for your concern with thermalpads, honestly if the cooler design is good and they are using decent pads (which you can use a GPU teardown site/video to see) then I'd say leave the pads for a long time and just replace the paste the second your warranty is up. The only time I was personally changing pads often was on the FE 30 series cards, because for some weird reason they decided to use really bad, almost paper like thermalpads.
@@techwandoUS Ofc. Ive seen some "low quality" pads on other top models and decided to go for Sapphire just to make sure. But since top GPUs seem to stay very cool (UV+OC-ed mine, 50°C , 65 °C hotspot) maybe maintenance is less of a problem, unless temps start rising unreasonably high. Thanks for your insight.
I have a 7800x3d and 4090 FE watercooled. Both have been headaches. The 7800x3d is good now after multiple bios updates. The 4090 still worries me that the cable will melt. I'll never feel 100% safe with it as I feel it's an Nvidia spec issue on the connector itself. Oh and finding a case that comfortably fits the 4090 is a pain too.
I've been struggling to find a decent video talking about owning a 4090 for the long run so thanks for this, i'm looking into grabbing one of these bad boys over the 4080 because of the 24gb of vram it offers so i might be able to render 1 or 2 pixels more in premiere, but after you said to wait i'm curious do you think i should wait even for video editing purposes?
Thats an excellent question, and honestly a little bit tough to answer, simply because I do not know what the 5090, or 5080 is going to bring. I would say if you're doing video editing professionally and your time is money then of course going out and getting a card as soon as possible would make the most sense. If it's more of a hobby or something that could wait a little... then we are a summer length away from new releases/announcements. All this being said though, the major difference you will see across all modern cards in video editing will be things like timeline scrolling with heavy effects, render times, and a few other things like overall system responsiveness. I used an ARC card for one month, just a A750 with 8GB, and although it did take a bit longer to render, and I sometimes had to pre optimize 4k files for smooth scrolling, it still felt really good. I hope this non answer helps in some way.
@@techwandoUS Thanks for taking the time to respond man! It most definitely helped
I use a CORSAIR Premium 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR PSU Cable for my Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC and haven't had any issues what so ever. The plug has a snug fit and connects with a very audible click. It also uses solid wire instead of stranded. My motto is click it and forget it.
I have heard good things about the Corsair 12VHPWR cable. Haven't even seen one burn up yet.
Is a 600w PSU not pushing it a bit for a 4090? They advise on 850w minimum. I have one of the MSI MPG pcie 5 psu's with the right cable and thats been problem free too
What brand PSU?
@@chrissyboy7047he means the cable is able to provide up to 600w, obviously the psu is higher than.
@@davidb.5486 ahh. That makes sense. I misread the original comment. Doh
Hi Techwando, I m from indonesia, and i want to buy zotac gpu, do zotac suc? should i buy another brand?; btw nice video...
Hey there. I have purchased well over 100 Zotac GPUs over the years for customer machines, but most have been budget systems 1060s/2060s/3060s etc. The biggest issue they have are fan noise, or dying fans. The 4080/90 I have tried was very quiet up until around 70% fan speed. Other than that they aren't as bad as people say they are. If anything I think they are a step above some companies like Colorful, yeston, even gigabyte... But they have a different issue in itself.
I was considering the zotac 4090 extreme but got turned off reading about the fan noise, coil whine and the card being built with a heap of plastic. Ended up going with a Gigabyte Gaming OC and have had a great time. But from what I read, zotac still have a great cards. Just depends what you're willing to put up with and the aesthetic you're going for.
Just out of curiosity, what game is that footage from? Where people are melting after being killed.
That's actually MW3. It's a reskin of the airport
@@techwandoUS I thought it looked like CoD. I've only played the first two MWs though. Thanks!
@@SoundsFromBeyondalso the melting affect is from a weapon bundle reskin it doesn’t happen by default
Undervolt is the thing to do. I’m not conservative. Running on 750w psu too.. UV at .95v is the key to stock or better performance but 75-100 less watts. So 300-350w max. Oc memory by 800-1000 and do the curve oc. There’s a few videos on it. Very simple. Very effective. Can go as low at .9v without much loss. So probably 250-275w. And it’s insane still. Maybe 5-8% loss. My card doesn’t break 60c ever on 50% fan speed. Tuf non oc
You should check the temperature on your psu. It might blow up if you reach 100% utilization on both cpu and gpu. You can use a cheap scanner
@@tyrellwreleck4226 I’m well aware of the power draw. And always have software running to check it. Corsair hx 750i. The psu fan doesn’t even come on most sessions. No joke. It’s totally fine.. total sys power draw is below 600w even at stock with no UV running cyberpunk or similar game…It could run this way non stop for a decade probably. Sure, I wouldn’t buy a new 750w psu when I replace this one. Probably 8 years old or older…. I’ll go with a 850w min but might just go to a 1k watt to have plenty of headroom, I like the idea of it not having a fan come on ever. But I think in general most people are over cautious and/or worry about stuff that will never be an issue. Also used a cheap 3 to 1 8 pin to 16 pin connector from Amazon. Did upgrade it to Corsair 2 to 1 cable tho. So it only plugs into 2 8 pins on psu… still can pull around 500-550w tho in testing. And this is close to the max psu rating. But I wouldn’t ever run it this hard. Again, this gpu is so damn efficient and looses so little performance capping v at .95. Max is 350-400w tops this way and is very close or better than stock. Of course with mem oc and curve oc. Runs about 30-45hz lower than stock v
Thx for this conclusion I'm running two watercooled 4090's in my Workstation (mostly doing CGI with C4d) and one aircooled 4090 in a Rendernode. Fortunately I decided not to go with the Cablemod 90° adapter, but I've been always aware of the dangerous 12VHPwr connector.... Plz nvidia, bring a new power connector to the 5xxx Generation!
I honestly went with the 7900 XTX than a rtx 4090 mainly due to the 12 volt connector. My co-worker's MSI rtx 4090 connector melted on him. That pretty much gave me my decision to go with the 7900 XTX. This is coming from a guy that has purchased mainly Nvidia cards - 98000 GT Ultimate, gtx 660, gtx 770, gtx 970, 1080 and now on my 1st AMD card - 7900xtx.
I have a 3080 12gb and other than alan wake 2. there have been no games ive played over the last year that have made me want to upgrade. everything runs at 1440p smoothly
I have a 4090 strix, and i am honestly impressed, its the best card overall that i have used possibly since forever
It's definitely a badass card, there's no doubt about that. Happy it's serving you well
The biggest issue I had with my 4090 Founders was actually getting it to display properly with my monitor - had lots of display errors and black screens initially. It seems to have sorted itself out now - but I would be worried trying to sell it to someone in the future.
I ironically had some of those issues early on with my 4080 also. I think there was a slow growing list of patches to fix display connectivity. I had an old Bravia 4k that just flat out didn't work, now it works.
I have the Suprim Liquid 4090 and just recently it started making clicking noises. I was super scared it might be the connector. I run my card overclocked all the time before this but now I run at stock instead of OC and the clicking noise stopped but im still scared AF my pc might burn my house down.
Biggest case of Buyers remorse I have ever experienced with the 4090. the power connector issues play on my mind daily. I have the card locked at low voltage and wattage.
It's always a lurking thought... Most cases of melting have been OC or 90° adapters, that being said I know one guy who left his at 90% power and it melted.
How much does it add to your bill. I heard it only add 10 or 11 dollars to a bill
It wouldn't add a dime over any other card if you did the same workload. This card doesn't just magically peg itself at 600w 24/7. Most of these are locked at 450w, which could possibly use about 12kwh a day, at 100% use. Most people are going to game, which won't use 100%, and even then maybe only 8hrs a day (which puts you into a heavy user category. All that being said it's probably going to use 50-360kwh a month. My power here is $0.16/kwh. So $8 to approximately $55 a month. What this math doesn't show is that your current system probably used 90% of that already, so the difference for me was almost $0
I just purchased a i9-13900k cpu and will be slowly buying components around that. I'm estimating I'll be complete around september. So I was thinking about the 4080 super but I'll see. Probably be my last component to complete the build.
Nice, if history is correct a 5080 will be announced by then. Might be worth waiting one month.
@@techwandoUS yes, I'd say wait and if anything, try to get a sweet deal on a 40 card
this is the very honest video about the things that people don't want to deal with changing alot of stuff inside their pc
been using the corsair 12vhpwr cable since I got my 4090 and i have yet to have any issues thankfully
MSI 4090 Suprim here... Use for gaming only. Zero complaints, absolutely amazing performance. Can't wait for the 5090.
Waiting for the 5090 to come out since that's the best opportunnity to snag a deal with a 4090. If I buy it new, I will do it via Micro Center with the extended protection in case it catches on fire and they will just replace it 🙃
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There were changes with the ATX specification to prevent it from operating without a solid connection. Size is great you don't have to deal with noise. Most of this stuff doesn't have anything to do wit YOUR experience and actually using the card. I still believe if you get MSRP (I got 5% under MSRP with MC card) it's WAY better value than the 4080. I know a lot of benchmarks show 20-30% uplift but that was what was available at release. There is 60% more hardware available.
No such things as too much power with VR. We are still probably 3 graphics card generations behind unlocking just the current VR head sets potential.
Yeah, certainly with VR sets like Pimax Crystal Super coming. I'm personally using a RTX 4090 + Pico 5 right now. But I will upgrade to a higher end VR set when the RTX 6090 is on the market. Hopefully that will be powerful enough.
Moral of the story, don't get anything when it drops until the price drops
I feel like the limitations of number of screens is an issue not being covered. I can only run 4k.240hz & 4k.144hz before i hit my screen output caps.
That's a good point, I run 3 screens and have not even thought of that. I am currently using 1440p 165hz 4k 144hz And 3440x1440 100hz All works well, but I have not even heard of this issue prior to this comment. I'll be looking into this, thanks for this comment.
Only way I ever felt that I got my money's worth for this card is when I was running nolvus (a HUGE mod pack for skyrim) at max settings and other mod packs for other games since they push the boundaries of the games they're made for I usually get 60fps+ at 4k from what i read even people with 4080's struggle to get those frame rates at 4k. Any other game for now easy 90+ at 4k
Isn't it so sad how back in the day it felt so sick to have something like the 980TI or the 1080TI, and now it just feels gross to own nvidia. :/ I have a very similar feeling, because I was using a 6800 XT paired with an i5-12600k w/32GB DDR4 3800 MHz, but the 6800XT wound up dying (it was a dell/Alienware OEM model I got used online) so I replaced it with an RTX 3080 with a modded AIO cooling solution, so not only does the card look weird as fuck because it has no shroud or backplate (making a custom backplate for it now) and is a super thin PCB slotted into a mobo like some weird expansion card, but I also miss the 6800 XT, and it's glorious 16GB of VRAM and I miss adrenaline as the driver suite w/stupid easy OC/UV features and everything. I also just want to "join the party", which in some ways makes me happy because it suggests that it's becoming cool to run AMD GPUs again so it's a double-edged sword, but I absolutely understand you wanting to "join the party" with a 7800XT or something. It's a shame that AMD just can't keep up when it comes to RT. I'm predominately, to the point where I would say I am almost exclusively a single player gamer, so to be able to keep a framerate of 90 FPS w/RT enabled and maxed out at 1440p MINIMUM is an absolute must for me. The issue is we are all stuck between a rock and a hard place. AMD gives you the 1440p/4k gameplay with maxed out textures, if not maxed out settings entirely, while maintaining a framerate of 60+ but RT performance which is only PASSABLE at 1080p. Nvidia on the other hand gives you phenomenal RT, but barred the 30 series from FG and severely gimps on the VRAM. 12GB on the 4070s? That's just nonsense and spending that kind of money you deserve better. I'm ready to tell RT and nvidia both, to fuck themselves and grab my self a 7900 GRE if I have the cash/chance but ATM the 3080 delivers all the performance I need. Especially because I don't usually play games as soon as they are released, and I have a MAJOR backlog to get through. I just beat RDR2 for the first time recently, and that game's what, five years old? Once I have to start compromising on my texture quality to achieve a playable framerate, the GPU is a doorstop for me. NOTE: DLSS VS FSR should be a non factor because both look like shit at 1080p, and both look phenomenal at 1440p or higher, even if DLSS is SLIGHTLY nicer in terms of image stability and sometimes sharpness, it's not enough to where you should be concerned when buying a new GPU, so I don't consider it when buying a new GPU.
Appreciate your extremely well written comment. Owning high end hardware feels equivalent to watching MTV cribs episode. Nobody cares what mansion and cars you have now. I think the biggest thing for AMD would be to make a gen on gen comparable card, with ray tracing also. There's many rumors of them sitting out this generation, maybe it will give them more time to catch up and have a better design midway through Nvidias 50 series. After all, the 2 year thing from these companies doesn't have to be two years anymore, just like a game dev.... Hold off and give us your best.
The only thing im wondering is when will we hit the peak of graphics in gaming? Like i know eventually we will hit a cap and the 7090 or whatever thats comes out in a few years will be able to run anything for a super super long time
Good question, I think no matter what, all things evolve at the same time in a healthy industry. Short answer... It might never happen. There will always be that harder to run game and that not fast enough card, or whatever hardware there is at the time.
@@techwandoUS yeah I think your right about that , same thing we said about gya 5 when it first came out and now it’s been like 10 years and there RDR2 that surpasses it
My 4090 PC uses very close to 1000wats at full load with Intel 14900K boosted. I use it as a space heater in the winter no joke. And for the summer I bought a mobile airconditioning unit for my room to cool into when gaming. 100 serious 😌🙂↕️.
the power adapter thing isn't really a problem it was just wide spared coverage
Good video man! I really enjoyed it! I have a 4090 and you're correct about everything. No one needs it. But once you have it, it is so hard to go back down. I will say this. There is something nice about knowing there is no where else to go when you're gaming. What I mean is this. I used to always wonder "What am I missing? How much more FPS could I get if I had a 3080 in stead of a 3070? A 3090 instead of a 3080?" The list goes on and on. Eventually, it just becomes a chase. You then reach the top and like Thanos, you rest. Now when I am gaming or video editing, I know that if I can't do something then no one else can either. I hope that makes sense lol. But with that being said, it is a stupid amount of money. If I was not a creator, there is no way I would ever spend my money on a GPU over 1K. Last night I fell asleep with my PC turned on. It stayed on all night, I never do this. This morning my first thought was "Oh no!" and "What if the cable is smoking on the 4090?" Thank God everything is okay. But man I should not have to worry about that crap. Anyway, great video!
Thanks man, appreciate it. So the question is Erock.... Will you be scooping a 5090 😎😉. I will try and borrow one from someone. Also that falling asleep thing... Did that once too, woke up frantically like I had committed a crime the night before. I think we definitely hear about more of the failures due to viral popularity, but you can never be too safe. The slight undervolt seems to be the best thing you can do with the 4090. Thanks again man.
@@techwandoUS As tech creator who focuses mostly on GPUs, I feel forced to buy a 5090. So I will plan to get it. I may stand in line the night before it launches and make it an event type thing with a friend or two. I don't know yet.
@ErockOnTech That would make great content. Microcenter is pretty good with creators. Hit them up ahead of time and let them know, you never know.
I almost bought one of these yesterday. My local Best Buy has one 4090 Founder's Edition Card in stock. And I had it in my cart. $1,711.99 after Taxes. I am currently using a MSI Gaming X Trio RTX3090 card with Intel 12th CPU. I really want to upgrade. But, I decided to remove the card from my cart and just wait for the 5090 cards reviews and go from there. I don't need it right now. But, I plan on buying that I Pimax Crystal Light headset and want more power to run it smoothly. I Appreciate the video. I just justify the cost. I got my RTX3090 card for $700 used from someone who upgraded to the 4090 card.
Definitely hold on to that 3090 a bit longer like you said. Also nice score, $700 ain't half bad.
hey buddy i have almost exactly the same story. I got my RTX3090 in 2022 Dec right before the 40 series release for about $900. I am recently SUPER tempted to upgrading to 4090 when i saw a deal of $1400 on it. I did an analysis and found that there is a relatively small improvement on my experience (I mostly only want to collect it, not so much gaming or doing machine learning stuff), but the downsides are 1) $1400 still something I would struggle to spend 2) I am concerned about the quality issues as mentioned in this vid 3) maybe 5090 will be released in 6 months and 4090 will depreciate much more 3) I don't know how to deal with the replaced 3090 and PSU cuz I need a bigger one, even selling them I assume only $600 can be collected. In short, I gain somewhat not so much, but would spend $800 in net, and worry about quality and depreciations. Not a good deal. Maybe I will buy 5090.
@@leoxu6743 They say good things come to those that wait! I am going to save up for a 5090 card. But, may end up buying a Used 4090 card if I can get one cheap. We will see. I am curious to see how much it will cost and how much better it is.
I brought my RTX 3090 for $600 last year from guy who also upgraded to the RTX 4090. When prices for the 4090 drop then I will upgrade my system.
@@RichLifeStories depending on how much the 5090 card is and if there is any available. I may end up just buying a cheap 4090 card if I can. But, no matter what. I will be upgrading. 😉👌
I have a 4090 as well and was able to get it on a good deal. However, the real issue is that Nvidia doesn't have really good competition to push prices down. The crypto boom hurt pricing and Nvidia does this yo-yo of what they think they can get on the open market. Nvidia got bailed out by AI, and i anticipate 50-series is going to be moderate improvement over the 4090, since they are planning to use the same chipset. Im pretty excited about intel entering the market with the Arc series, and i hope over the next 10 years they can catch up AMD top tier cards. Which is going to put pressure on Nvidia.
10:22 what game is this?
I have a massive 3080 and the temps are so low and everything runs perfectly. I actually underclock the thing because I found that I never max it out.
It's crazy that you've got to take in to consideration that you can't really walk away and leave your PC running because it could spontaneously burst into flames.
Great video, thanks! My motherboard released a firmware update to resolve the issues that caused me to return my 4090. So I tried an ARC and fought with that for a year before they finally updated the drivers enough. I really hope the 50 series makes sense
So your motherboard tainted your 4090 experience? Sorry to hear that, ARC is great but also have some crazy learning curves to its oddities.
@@techwandoUS This last build was such a nightmare. It ran like complete garbage for a year. Finally some firmware updates and another windows reload and I could do simple things like drag files without lag and get work done without bluescreening. My ARC still can't run my 4th monitor but at one point it could barely run 2
@@SickofTired That sounds like a nightmare. Arc has definitely been very strange with multi-monitor. Not to plug my old video or anything, but I had similar experiences a while back. The screens would work but randomly go black or act like they were being plugged in for the first time. It would happen so randomly though that it was hard to get a good example for the video. I think there's mostly a brand compatibility issue.
@@techwandoUS With three screens running KZhead videos would stutter, Facebook could barely scroll and then Premiere would lock up and crash which would sometimes lock up the whole system. I upgraded my two main screens to avoid the Display Port -> HMDI converter and use a TV as a third but its HDMI, and I still can't use an old monitor through a DP -> HDMI converter because it blanks out and resets the desktop randomly. I think you are right about brand compatibility. I saw some firmware updates come through for the screens themselves and things started working better. I can't wait to try a 50 series if they are affordable. I'm so tired of spending money on shit that doesn't work. I run into the same crap with my camera/phone/microphone/gimbal and other electronics, it's insane. I'll look for your video about multi monitors to see if you cover anything I've missed. Please do plug your other videos, it's not like you making these videos just to push products
@@SickofTired I totally understand, especially with the gimbal comment. Camera stuff can be even more infuriating lol. So I don't have a specific video about the issue in itself, it's actually a more or less positive video about Intel Arc and using it for 30 days. Somewhere in that video I do mention the issues with the screens. Ironically when I stopped using my Sony TV I had less issues (2 Asus monitors, 1 Sony Bravia). If I was experiencing what you mentioned I'd be losing it too.
It is not stupid if you can afford it. It is better to have power when you need it than not.
If you can afford it and it does what you want yes. The 4090 isn't stupid.
I've had my Zotac 4090 Amp for a year now and have never used more than probably 25% of its capability. This includes gaming and record at the same time on my new 32" 4K Oled monitor. So, today, I bought a Gigabyte 4080 Super OC just to test if I can really feel and/or see a difference between the cards. All the benchmarks say I should. When I'm finished, I'll add another comment with my results.
What games or apps do you primarily use? Appreciate the comment.
@@techwandoUS COD and BF2042. So, far I just use OBS for recording. Since, I never seem to get around to actually editing anything. LOL. But, if I ever do I will also be using CapCut and Canva.
Sucks to a hear a zotac card died, I got a trinity 4080 and so far i had it for a year and no issues so far. I was gonna get a 4090 FE, when they dropped but of course scalpers made that impossible. They are really not that much difference with a 4080 vs 4090 in gaming, at 4k native i think it was 15-20fps more etc, so really not a big issue even the 16gb ram is not a issue, The most i seen a game use is 12gb vram. I play at 4k native 60 fps vsync and the 4080 can handle that in pretty much every game, I dont use frame generation cause of screen tearing, 60hz tv monitor does not like 100fps, I try not to use dlss if possible. I might consider upgrading to the 5090 if has at least 50%+ native 4k performance over the 4080, If it cant do that no point in upgrading.. Also depends on the plug, I had to make my own right angle 12vpwr psu cable to fit my corsair 2000d case and its a tight fit.. if the 5090 takes 2 12 pin plugs not gonna work I dont have the room.. They need to go back to the old plug style.
In fairness to Zotac, it died very early on and it was memory module issue that they couldn't control. Now the bad part about Zotac was the RMA experience. I keep my stuff in pristine condition and they sent over a super scratched up used video card a month after buying a brand new in perfect condition 4080. Not only that, it blue screened upon using it so I pulled it out of the machine instantly and had to sort of fight with them on the phone about sending me a new one. Sorta what Asus is tryna pull right now with that whole GN story and the 4090.
I got a 4090 at launch and I have been very happy with it even though it is obviously way overpriced. I have a large (43") 4k monitor and I previously had a 3080Ti which drove that well enough but the 4090 means I just buy and install a game and really don't think about settings beyond just maxing everything. If you can afford one just buy it imo, if you don't have the money to lay down the cash for it then probably just got 1440p and a 4070Ti Super or similar and you'll have a great experience with that
whats the website with the price tracking?
Bestvaluegpu or pcpartpicker. There's a few other also
I live in a rather rural area so I was able to buy my 4090 at a bestbuy a couple months after launch
absolutely love my 4090, but the key is powerlimiting, which actually is making it more optimized. The default power is overkill. I only use 70% power, runs 300w ish and performance is around 97%... I don't get the hate for the 4090. It's simply the best and I have an 83" C2 LG OLED... So everything looks amazing
I gotta check out the 70% power thing. I currently run mine at 90. Going to test it lower now and see how it pans out. Appreciate the comment.
Ahhhh....the good old days of 1080ti 4 way sli.
I’ve heard a theory that Nvidia raises prices one gen and brings value with the next. Hopefully the 50 series we see good value cards. The 40 series super cards helped but Nvidia wanted those high Cryptandemic margins with the 40 series launch.
Cryptandemic is the best description I have heard in a bit.
When you hit the gpu with the shrink beam but the wrong part gets shrunk.
😅
Just imagine paying $4000 for a 3090 during the graphics card crisis and now it's worth barely $600
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Had my TUF 4090 since launch day, had an issue with the connector melting due to a CableMod 90 degree adapter. Thankfully CableMod covered the cost of the connector repair as Asus wouldn't touch it under their warranty. As far as performance goes it's been insanely good, I run a 5120x1440 Odyssey Neo G9 and the 4090 hasn't struggled in any game at all, performance is amazing. Overall I don't regret buying it, but I do hope they remove the 12vhpwr spec for the 50 series and onwards. Great video, liked and subbed 👍
Thanks man, sorry to hear about the connector. Glad to hear cablemod covered that for you too.
I am waiting for 50 series to upgradr my card
Did you have issues with your Zotac card? They seem to cut corners, cheap.
The cool kids keep saying that, but all of my Zotac cards have been great.
Well it did die, but I have had tons of Zotac cards I sent out to customers and never hear any complaints, other than the sound the fans make. They have a sorta annoying sound, similar to a cooler master fan. Probably same hubs.
@ the time thia came out it was a Scapocalypse best buy wouldnt work for me cart kept refusing to check out or say this item isnt available online yet on thenoage it self only available online 🤣 plus between the Super Nova that happened to these and the 7800x3D CPUs popping i figured ill wait till texh stopped mimicking the Note 7 disasters. Though in doing so i missed my chance to get a Asus x670E M-ATX Board as they only made 10 of these it seems. The only other option for a M-ATX board looked like it was made in the back room of a gas station barhin bin. If there is a new Gene for Zen 5 ill buy 2 outa the 10 they will make.
I love my watercooled 4090... I play on 4k 32" with max settings, this is the perfect card for this usecase....but .. What sucks about the 4090...1. the price 2. The 12Vhpwr connector 3. The coilwhine lottery
Lenovo has had (they go in and out of stock on it; just checked and it was currently in stock when I posted, it was out of stock this morning) the MSI Liquid Suprim X 4090 for $1,749 and discount codes can be applied. For me this brought the price down to $1,525. The liquid cooled card is much smaller (in width it is only up to two slots versus something more like 4 in width). So, those factors together ended up moderating (somewhat) a couple of the drawbacks mentioned in the video (though the price is still very steep).
$1,525 is still a lot better than something like the $1500 4080 Strix. Still a solid deal, nice purchase!
@@techwandoUS Thanks! Yeah, I have a couple of additional use cases as well. 1) I plan to use it for GPU multi-core programming / processing and 2) I use a freely available older, beta version of madvr coupled with videoprocessor, a capture card and the 4090 for real-time video processing (mostly for dynamic tone mapping to a projector in a theater setup). The equivalent hardware device (the madvr envy extreme - which is basically a PC with a high end NVIDIA card and the software) goes for around $9,495 to $14,995.
What codes did you use? You got it down a bit lower than me:)
Dukele432 - I just tried again (5/3/2024) and was able to get it back down to $1,529.37. $1,749.99 (goes in and out of stock). I got $50 off by using the $100 off code I got when signing up (this only lets me take off $50). I got $87.50 off by using EXTRAFIVE. I got $83.12 off by using my wife's nurse discount. They also have student, teacher, first responder discount (verifying through id.me).
Alan wake 2's graphical settings aren't like your typical settings i mean low settings are like med-high & you don't even have to max out settings at 4k, i played it on medium settings native 1080p @ 40-50 fps and it looked breathtaking, even consoles are restricted low-med and hardware ray tracing is not even available on consoles.
It is a great looking game overall I'll definitely agree with that.
I agree with a lot of this. Even if it never melts while owning it, the thought it still there, something that I never really thought of with my 2080(although the thought of dead vram was there lol) but it never had an issue. Frankly even if the design had zero issues that singlular thought of "is today the day it melts" makes the design 0/10 BS. I feel like the only thing I disagree on is power consumption because I view it like the ability to consume power is not the same as how power efficient something is. 200W is 200W period doesn't matter what is consuming that power. The 4090 is insanely effecient compared to any other card. My 2080 playing bl2 at 4k gets around 150fps average at 250W but I get a locked 240fps and barely consume 200W on the 4090. So for me I actually save power. I think this point comes down to how much you run the 4090 at 100% at that point yes it will be costly. Also 450W models vs 600w models like you said. If you game at lower resolutions on the 4090(which is silly but high refresh isn't) I was getting a locked 240 in borderlands 1 and it was only consuming 89W on the 4090. Good video! One last thing is I totally agree with that statement about the 4090 being overkill for first GPU and not buying the top card if its your first build. I totally think the 80series none TI class is the best if you have the money to just spend and its your first build.
Hey man, appreciate the well written comments as always. The power consumption thing... I can actually see what you are getting at. Technically Lovelace is very efficient, I think honestly they didn't even have to push the 4090 to 450w, undervolting sees such a small loss. I guess I am more or less talking about the 600w cards at 4k modern titles, but like anything it's all relative. Totally get your perspective. 89w at 240 is nuts, and great power efficiency. I have noticed that on older games it barely sweats. Been playing a lot of fallout lately with the free dlc. I have decided to cap it at 90 due to the engine. People say above 60 breaks it but honestly 90 seems fine, just runs a tad faster. Anyway, the total PC power consumption is like 280w when I peak over at my PSU. So it does have its great moments, that's for sure.
@@techwandoUS That fallout amazon show had me playing fallout as well. It gets very noticable north of 160fps+!
@@D3nsity_ The show was great, extremely excited for the New Vegas style stuff they will be doing in the second season. As for the fps, I did try it at 144hz, was nice to run a bit faster haha. 90 felt great on the Ultrawide.
Did you guys here the new RTX 4090 song The Power Unleashed?
If I build a cutting edge PC with a 7900XTX, that same PC would have cost $700-1000 more with a 4090, which is often held back by every CPU currently available. Over the course of two years (which is how long a 4090 buyer will use it before buying the next top dog), that's $1.96 - $1.37 per day. Plus constantly worrying all the time about whether that 4090 is going to burn down. I tend to think about such things in terms of opportunity cost. So one could argue all I have to to have a 4090 instead of a 7900XTX is give up my morning and afternoon coffees from Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts every day for a year, but I already don't buy those coffees. For me, it's more of a one-time-purchase opportunity cost analysis. For $700-1000, I can build another whole reasonably capable backup PC, take a very nice long weekend excursion, or put new tires on my truck. And since I don't trace rays and don't constantly obsess over FPS (as long as the game plays smoothly), I can play any game at 4K and high to ultra settings with my 7900XTX. So there's zero benefit for me to game with a 4090 over a 7900XTX.
This card to this day still sells out when stock hits very high demand still. I just recently built mine few weeks ago trying to fully switch from console gaming. Still prefer console but for the best frame rate this thing is a champ.
kinda insane your 4080 died so soon, I picked one up recently for $700 used and connector shenanigans aside, it's been the coolest (temp wise) card I've ever owned. Usually I'm always so tempted to undervolt to save thermals but the stock config gives me all the performance I want and never breaks 58C.
vertically mounting my 4090 oc strix with a 420mm in the front, left me with 4mm of clearence, looks great though
So this is how I mitigated all those issues: 1: I bought a Corsair 12V-HP aftermarket cable that goes straight from my HX100w PS into the GPU, , and I’ve not heard anyone have an issue with that set up, if you can afford a 4090 you can afford a £20 cable. 2: I bought my 4090 direct from Nvidia and got it at msrp £1569.99 3: I bought a Velocty2 water block for £200 for my 4090 and cut the size down drastically which also helps with the weight on the pcie slot. 3: I paired my 4090 with a 7800x3d and max system power draw that I’ve seen with a full custom loop is 600w Yes it’s expensive, but it really is a Titan class card, and that’s what you should compare it too in terms of price and performance not a XX80ti Look nobody needs a Ferrari, but it’s cool as hell if you can afford it.
Well said ☝️ and nice work arounds
I wonder if the 4090 will hold up over time much like the 2080ti. Very expensive but also (hopefully) generation spanning
Oh definitely, as long as the connector doesn't melt.
i was lucky and got a 4090 founders edition for msrp at launch through nvidia access
16:23 it still has its place my dude sure it’s expensive, but it’s the only true 4K card out their that can do 120fps, or guarantee a 4K 60fps I wanted a 3080 but couldn’t due to shortage pandemic and well I didn’t have money but that was a value card but looking back at it now it now struggles doing 4K at 60 , Now I’m talking all ultra settings here btw So yah , just wish the 4090 was cheaper The 3090 didn’t make sense back then it had marginally lifted performance compared to 3080 but 4090 to 4080 there is a difference and a huge one. So it got that going for it also
Maybe I'll be surprised, but I'm not expecting much from the 50 series. With AI companies stuffing cash into Jensen's pockets, any architectural improvements will be geared toward AI and not raster, and memory will be underwhelming/overpriced to maintain market segmentation.
They seem to make mistakes on 1 generation and then fix them the next. I do hope they give good price to performance, especially seeing how bad the 60 class this generation was, but you could be right. Just a waiting game now.
How much money did the 4090 add to the power bill? Like $100-200?
Think of it as another subscription every month. I was averaging about $200 a month depending on weather. I saw a $15-$20ish Dollar fluctuation roughly
@@techwandoUS ah alright, do you think the 5090 will add $50-$100 to that?
@@Joshda039 the 5090 will most likely be the same power draw, or within that margin
I paid $2200 for my Asus Strix white edition 4090. My rig runs 24/7. No problems. I've had it for almost a year. Great purchase, dirt cheap also. 😮
Just a little perspective on the "cable size" thing and it being "too little." Got a Kill-A-Watt? Hook your microwave up to it. Get your mind blown when you see 1100-1700 watts pulled through that "little cable."
Hair dryers, air fryers... They all pull over 900w. The difference is how the power is delivered, also ever notice that microwaves don't come with detachable cables?
@@techwandoUS Do air fryers or hair dryers? I'd bet there are some detachable hair dryer plugs out there for "traveling". I feel like a lot of those old grease fryers had detachable cords. Maybe that's why they HAD them and maybe they don't anymore. I have no idea. I just think if you make a good connection, it's good to go. Assuming the gauge and quality of the wire is correct. Each individual wire looks small on a PCI-e cable, but there are several of them. Sure, some are grounds, but I dunno. I don't know enough about it. I just think most people would be surprised to see their microwave pull the wattages that they do. Mine is old and pulls 1700 watts. Surprised me. Speaking of all of this, I've considered hooking my PC up to a 240v outlet. Ever seen how much more efficient a PSU can be with a 240v outlet compared to a 120v? (or 110/120v, whatever you're used to calling it, my outlets are @ 115v).
I'm waiting until the 5090 comes out so I can get a half priced 4090 like I did with my 3090ti 😂 On the other hand, those cheap sub $200 GPUs like the 6gb RTX 3050 and Arc A580 are surprisingly good with 1080p.
Hey, that's absolutely the best way to do it. The best deals are last gen people panic selling to get the next thing.
I liked listening to your evaluation and case uses of the RTX 4090. I am also one of the privileged people who can afford to buy this card, but to my defense or at the very least explanation of things, me and my wife and kids use PC's in the form of gaminglaptops for well over a decade per set. And we have for the most part been buying these as second or even third hand machines to save money. So when you use an Asus G751JY gaminglatop that came out in 2013, maybe we got it in 2014 or even 2015, I tend to forget those details, but we are now in 2024 and the laptops are still with us and we still play our various games and we are happy. That is a lot of time to actually save up for the next desktop PC clone or gaminglaptop, if you know what I mean ?! Still, it is a form of small decadence that made me decide this year would be the year we wouild get a freshly built (my me) clone desktop PC with perhaps not the best, but very close to the best specifications to our minds at least. So I coupled an Intel i9-13900K with an RTX 4090FE which I managed to obtain directly from Nvidia for the recommended Nvidia price, so all in all the best price I could have gotten for a new product (and even for a used RTX 4090 probably as well...) and I put that on an Asus Maximus Z790 Hero mainboard with 128 Gb (4x32Gb G.Skill DDR5 Trident Z5 RGB 5600MHz CL28), 3x Lexar NM790 4Tb Nvme strips and 2x Western Digital 20 TB Datacenter 7200 sata 3 drives, a Fortron Source Power Hydro Pro Titanium 1000 Watt PSU and a ThermalRight Peerless Assassin CPU cooler with Arctic Silver 5. I'm sorry if this sounds like bragging, that is not my intention at all, but this is just one of many setups, but it is our setup and it just works for us and I have undervolted both the CPU and the GPU and lowered the power limits and frequencies to arrive at approximately 70% of the nominal performance level in order to obtain a solidly running super efficient system that may last people like us again 10 to maybe even 15 years in our household. Does that make any sense yo you ? It may seem strange to get top parts instead of more budget friendly parts if I am running them at so much lower specifications, but I still get a lot of headroom if and when I need it and meanwhile I have all those cuda cores and tensor cores and memory bandwith and a lukewarm PC case while still limiting our energy bill as much as we can. And that was the idea all along. And yes, I have a 90 degree powercable for the RTX 4090 that is of a good design and certainly will not melt under my usage conditions. ;-) I would recommend this approach to more people, but everyone is different ofcourse and some people really cannot get over wanting to change their PC setup every two or three years and that is something we just don't do ourselves. So hence me saying that I can afford to buy me an RTX 4090 FE.
I have one since one year and tbh it‘s a great card and i had no issue since buying it.
A very good video and a fair assessment. I’m also guilty - I got my 4090 right after it came out - upgraded from a 1080ti. Managed to get it at an MSRP, so got a good deal on it, considering today’s prices, but I wouldn’t buy one today. Unfortunately, IMHO the days of good value graphics card are long gone - nVidia is happy to sell to corporate customers who are willing to pay a lot more for the same technology.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed. I will say, you holding off as long as you did basically exempts you from all typically 4090 owners. Most people who own them just cards gen to gen. I hope it lasts you another 5-7 years. I agree with you on the good value cards... Definitely long gone at this point.
FYI most 4080 and 4090 coolers were designed for 500 watt TDP, so when you are using a 4080 at 250 watts (which is a pretty normal load for it) you've got so much thermal headroom. My card is specced at 2550 MHZ but it actually runs at like 2850mhz and at like 60c max, the coolers definitely are overkill and if OEMS wanted they could reduce the size and make the cards a bit cheaper. At this point I think it is just to look appealing. Bigger = better right?
The 4090 is a 1080p card at this point. In a couple more years you will have to run it at 480p with upscaling, if you will be able to game with it at all. It's coming faster than people think.
I totally agree. After buying a Titan X then moving to 2 2080ti's in SLI, I realized this 💩 isn't needed and no one cares. It actually to the fun out of finding that 1 card for the right price.
Im accually dissapointed in the performace.. it barely can power my Samsung G9 57... 60 fps in cyberpunk at ultra settings (Not RT) cuse then i would be playing still pictures cyberpunk. Hope next gen performs better.
I assume you don't want to run DLSS?
@@techwandoUS I do, why do you ask ?
got a 4090 since January 2023... total gamechanger for me... I now do my arch viz renders 100% on GPU, no more CPU renders, also opened the world to me to do video walkthroughs in a matter of hours or a couple of days, instead of insane times or just realistically refusing to do videos
It's really good for that type of stuff. Happy to hear it's serving you well.
To be honest, in my case even if I got one for free I would probably sell it and get a 4080 instead just because of the power draw, I can't afford an e-bill that high anyways.
For the cost of the 4090 i'd rather upgrade my entire platform. I play 1440P 165Hz with a 4070 Ti Super with no issues. Even that card is overpriced. A 70 series card used to be $600
Tragic Nvidia can't try just a little bit harder to make their products near flawless.
I use my 4090 to watch KZhead videos like yours. 🤣 I want to re-iterate one of your comments: Don't keep unplugging and replugging your 12VHPWR connector as the wear on the conductors in the connector will start creating a loose connection. That loose/weak connection will be the spot where it gets extra hot due to the minimal surface area current has to flow through and that will melt your connector. Leave the cable and connector alone!
Fastest KZhead card out there 🫡
I’ve had mine for a little over a year as well, it does a good job at making my wife mad at me
4090 FE owner here. Only bad thing I can say (I mean price subjectively aside), was Nvidia's choice to go without their store and rely on Best Buy who had terrible early management of purchasing. While I game a lot, I do a huge amount of 3D rendering and other work so while yes, this card was expensive, it's been worth it. But if you're just wanting the best gaming performance, yeah, it's definitely a hard pill to swallow and I'm still bewildered that GPUs are now the price of what a machine used to be. Wish Cablemod's 12vHPWR adapters worked - ran mine without too much issue but then with the snags, of course, stopped using it (RIP to those who cards died). Hopefully Nvidia and other OEMs have learned a lot from this launch. On the size, yeah it's like Nvidia is like "How much space in this hypothetical rectangle can we use for a PCIe card?" "Yes. Use it!". Thankfully I can fit the size in my case but yeah it's a monster. Card does stay suuuuper cool though!