The Borderlands DLC That Never Got Made

2024 ж. 1 Мам.
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Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel never got to reach its full potential before 2k Australia was closed down. There was 1 DLC in the shoot that was planned and that was Luxy's Space Adventure!
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  • I feel that most of the assets and concepts were added to later content. The final Borderlands 2 DLC definitely does this, as well as the Handsome Jackpot. I don't think these assets would be thrown away and forgotten, they'd be used.

    @ImperialWarrior6490@ImperialWarrior64902 жыл бұрын
    • I smell Wonderlands DLC

      @LOON3Y_TOON3Y@LOON3Y_TOON3Y2 жыл бұрын
    • I believe that’s what actually happened to those assets

      @lemonstone774@lemonstone7742 жыл бұрын
    • Now I want space pirate dlc!

      @Loderyod@Loderyod2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Loderyod We all want space pirate dlc!

      @LOON3Y_TOON3Y@LOON3Y_TOON3Y2 жыл бұрын
    • @@LOON3Y_TOON3Y we have pirate dlc that technically takes place in space Captain Scarlet

      @yokaiwatcher8500@yokaiwatcher85002 жыл бұрын
  • It would be wild if 2K announced this for Pre Sequel in a few years.

    @Progamer1013@Progamer10132 жыл бұрын
  • The pre sequel is the most underrated game ever

    @lil_r033zy@lil_r033zy2 жыл бұрын
    • Word.

      @N15.2@N15.22 жыл бұрын
    • Never understood why it gets so much hate.

      @saschaberger3212@saschaberger32122 жыл бұрын
    • I dont care if people hate it or not, its been a year since i was a casual borderlands fan

      @dawidek8237@dawidek82372 жыл бұрын
    • @@saschaberger3212 terrible balancing, endgame doesn't exist, etc. However, considering what happened, it's not really the fault of TPS

      @jinga9862@jinga98622 жыл бұрын
    • @@jinga9862 the pacing is bad as well allot of times you’re just sitting there waiting to progress the story

      @gamerguy6990@gamerguy69902 жыл бұрын
  • Pre-sequel is honestly my favorite of the series. It was just disappointing to see how much support that Borderlands 2 got while Pre-Sequel seemed to be the red-headed step child of the franchise. Without knowing what happened behind the scenes I thought it was simply due to a fan backlash or they just wanted Borderlands 2 to be the main game until 3 came out. A shame to hear the the truth

    @PhillipOnTakos@PhillipOnTakos2 жыл бұрын
    • Same, this was and still is my favourite from the series. So sad the DLC never came out.... But at least they used assets in other DLCs

      @weredraco@weredraco2 жыл бұрын
    • Not my favorite, but I like TPS a lot of too. I replay it sometimes just to remember how is be Claptrap, Timothy or even Wilhelm

      @Yeheah@Yeheah2 жыл бұрын
    • Hot take : pre-sequel is better than 2 and 3 ( 3 is overhated tho but still ) but ain't got shit on the original game.

      @ernestmoreno8244@ernestmoreno82442 жыл бұрын
    • @@ernestmoreno8244 Nah. Imho it goes 3, 1, 2, TPS. I prioritize gameplay. If you're less into pure gameplay reasons, it's probably 2, TPS, 1, 3.

      @armyofninjas9055@armyofninjas90552 жыл бұрын
    • from what I heard, presequel stopped getting updates because it got too expensive for 2K's australia branch to even exist and they had to release the DLC's that were finished enough, this was Aurelia, Timothy, Claptastic Voyage, and the Holodome. It's most noticable with Aurelia due to the NPCs around her

      @SuperSeasonChannel2003@SuperSeasonChannel20032 жыл бұрын
  • I wish this was added to the game. There’s not really much content in the pre-sequel.

    @PrinceFlumph@PrinceFlumph2 жыл бұрын
    • Kind of the fanbase's fault, it was their treatment of the game that made 2k stop supporting it

      @zoopie_doop8957@zoopie_doop89572 жыл бұрын
    • @@zoopie_doop8957 yes and no. The developers stopped adding content because… we’ll they’re gone. The company was cut off after they couldn’t afford to keep in business out in Australia. After they did the bioshock series and then the pre-sequel they closed their doors and couldn’t do any more content for the game, so the game suffered.

      @PrinceFlumph@PrinceFlumph2 жыл бұрын
    • @@zoopie_doop8957 but the fact still is the dev team behind the game is gone. 2k Australia is completely gone. But I do see where you’re coming from. People pimp slapped the game on arrival.

      @PrinceFlumph@PrinceFlumph2 жыл бұрын
    • @@PrinceFlumph I unironically love the Pre Sequel, it was never intended to be Borderlands 3, it was advertised as a spin-off and sold at half the price of 2, but people expected shit like a new engine and it to be the third game of the main series still. People hate on the Pre-sequel so much but don't seem to hate 3 for carrying over mechanics and ideas from it

      @zoopie_doop8957@zoopie_doop89572 жыл бұрын
    • @@zoopie_doop8957 I enjoy the game to an extent and hope to see content from it brought back. I mainly hope to see pickle return as a “be careful who you make fun of in school” sort of deal. He IS down on Pandora and was in sanctuary, but then just kinda gone. Also would like to see an update with springs and Athena after tales. And possibly even some stuff like a reference to captain chef or, you know, literally everything that happened at the end with the guardian.

      @PrinceFlumph@PrinceFlumph2 жыл бұрын
  • Any lost DLC related to the Borderlands that actually acknowledges what character you are playing is always a tragedy. As for timeline wise it could've easily been before Claptasitic as not only did that end with Athena leaving again but Claptrap's entire line being shut down. Could do something simple to get it in the story too like Brick popping in and asking with all that money at Jack's disposal did he ever treat you guys to a vacation?

    @KyuubiNaruto41@KyuubiNaruto412 жыл бұрын
  • I remember this, I was so disappointed when this DLC got cancelled

    @JavierDelTaco@JavierDelTaco2 жыл бұрын
  • I wish modders could add/make their own version of this DLC.

    @danielsurvivor1372@danielsurvivor13722 жыл бұрын
  • I feel that story wise this DLC would've been after the main game and before the claptastic voyage, they could've just said that Jack hired the vault hunters for a second time after their vacation went bad to avoid the issue of Athena being hired by him three times

    @That1Gam3r@That1Gam3r2 жыл бұрын
    • But he shoots claptrap at the end of claptastic voyage

      @fulltimeslackerii8229@fulltimeslackerii82292 жыл бұрын
    • @@fulltimeslackerii8229 "before the claptastic voyage"

      @pizzazz8307@pizzazz83072 жыл бұрын
  • 4:09 Top row, second to last. That silhouette looks like Zane.

    @bbrodester1286@bbrodester12862 жыл бұрын
  • Fuck, does it suck this wasn't a _Pre-Sequel_ DLC, but now that I think about it, it would make for an excellent six or seventh DLC for _Borderlands 3._ I bet Amara would love the idea of a luxury cruise, only for it become a brand new place to hunt for loot. Zane would be in his element there, too, I think. FL4K… FL4K probably wouldn't be able to relax there as they need something to hunt but as soon as Flamey's start raiding the ship, they'd be all over that. And Moze? Oh, damn, I think this might be the only other time she's been in such luxury. (Discounting what was found on the Handsome Jackpot, of course.)

    @lonestar_iconoclast@lonestar_iconoclast2 жыл бұрын
  • 2k Australia was under appreciated by gearbox

    @Master-hunter2000@Master-hunter20002 жыл бұрын
  • I believe the bones of Luxy's were used for the fight for Sanctuary dlc.

    @outbreakprime6246@outbreakprime62462 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like the story for it would be okay at best. The main thing to remember is that a lot of the events in presequel have to align itself with 2 at the time it was writing also with tales. The gameplay probably would be decent really as clap was amazing. In terms of what would they add would probably be like 5 legendary guns and about 6 to 7 new areas on the map. I dont think they would add any new rarities, unless they are going to replace pearlescents like how glitch replaced saref weapons and that would be the gimmick. Now in terms of quality for the dlc I would say it probably would be a scarlet or tourge level of quality and that isn't bad btw those are great DLCs.

    @griffthelazy4837@griffthelazy48372 жыл бұрын
  • That dlc sounds awesome

    @raindancejam9466@raindancejam94662 жыл бұрын
  • I gotta ask how many other people are hoping for headhunter dlcs or something like them for borderlands 3

    @doktorbone@doktorbone2 жыл бұрын
  • I want this dlc. I hope it gets remade in a future installment

    @lyinginertia@lyinginertia2 жыл бұрын
  • I read from the wiki, that the company that built the cruise ship was Tediore, and the President was supposed to be the some old guy that look like the host from every type of game show.

    @oblivexx@oblivexx2 ай бұрын
  • Cool idea to bring Athena to the DLC is to play it out like she's got a honeymoon with Janey and they hanging out on a space cruise and then things happen xd

    @lutymane@lutymane2 жыл бұрын
    • Problem is that they don't get married until after jack, Nisha and Wilhelm died

      @insertnamehere12@insertnamehere122 жыл бұрын
    • Scissor romance

      @53XYCL4P-TP@53XYCL4P-TP2 жыл бұрын
  • TPS had the best balancing in the game IMO. I still find the Doppelganger to be my second favorite VH after Gaige.

    @homefront1999@homefront19992 жыл бұрын
  • Pre-sequel and 2 have the best DLC of the entire series since they actually added new characters unlike borderlands 1 and 3

    @BottomBunkArt@BottomBunkArt Жыл бұрын
  • Seeing that we could've gotten a level cap increase I would've looked forward to this DLC

    @G1ggl3z@G1ggl3z2 жыл бұрын
  • Yea I really do hope at some point they will come back and finish all the planned stuff for pre sequel

    @NotoriousJay23@NotoriousJay232 жыл бұрын
  • this is more content on it than i have ever seen and i really wish that it had gotten produced

    @madamthulhu7856@madamthulhu78562 жыл бұрын
  • I am gonna say the saddest part is that the claptastic voyage was amazing so imagine how good the others would've been

    @CowKirbo@CowKirbo2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm sad this never got made, the pre sequel is in my top 5 favorite video games like ever

    @atomicnova9@atomicnova92 жыл бұрын
    • Same

      @LinkMaster5555@LinkMaster55556 ай бұрын
  • I wonder if there's a petition to bring it back to life?

    @fortkavanagh@fortkavanagh2 жыл бұрын
  • This makes sense that it’d be before claptastic sense that starts at like level 60 and presequel ends at like level 25-30

    @gimpsickle5806@gimpsickle5806 Жыл бұрын
  • While it may not have been the greatest thing in the world, I think it would've made for a welcome addition to the Pre-Sequel. If nothing else, it would've given us (as the players) more content to explore. And as mentioned previously, it would've (potentially) given us a chance to delve into a more fleshed out backstory for our playable characters. Overall, I think it was certainly a missed opportunity if nothing else.

    @Caffeinated_Kitsune@Caffeinated_Kitsune2 жыл бұрын
  • That one character art (possible space captain) was probably reused as Lorelei. They look very similar. Honestly Lorelei's accent always threw me off because they are the only one on the planet(and game) to have that accent. I can see how Gearbox could recycle interesting ideas and characters.

    @jettblade@jettblade2 жыл бұрын
    • she honestly looks a bit like amara. iirc there is also a head cosmetic for her with those grid glasses and those frankenstein hair with the white strands. I would imagine that the character concept was reused for that head skin

      @mister_muffin3625@mister_muffin36252 жыл бұрын
  • this DLC looks literally perfect, I love alien plant parasites, I love the idea of an 80's themed neon space yacht, I love the Pre-Sequels playable Characters

    @transgender_F-117@transgender_F-1172 жыл бұрын
  • It seems like most of the concepts got reused in commander Lilith and Handsome Jackpot but god damn I'm sad we never got to see that raid boss

    @everettgaspar3482@everettgaspar34829 ай бұрын
  • I hope they someday revive The Pre-Sequel with add more content as they do with BL 2 (Sanctuary DLC), even though the original studio have been shutted down (2K Australia).

    @daffanurfauzan1220@daffanurfauzan12202 жыл бұрын
    • This won't ever happen. Ever. Move on.

      @armyofninjas9055@armyofninjas90552 жыл бұрын
  • I definitely seems like the plant stuff was reused for the borderlands 2 dlc and the space luxury stuff was reused for the handsome jackpot.

    @alexanderthegreat7721@alexanderthegreat77212 жыл бұрын
  • Oddly enough TPS feels like it could have been a dlc in and of itself I saw people blaze through it and it wasn't that long of a base game either.

    @Tahu33446@Tahu334462 жыл бұрын
  • Big fan dude. You should do a review of Tales of the Boarderlands, the Telltale game. I think you could come up with plenty of content surrounding that narrative

    @georgewoods7886@georgewoods78862 жыл бұрын
  • This would have been awesome if it happened. I liked playing with these vault hunters. I was hoping for no reason they would add something extra like they did in BL2 just for kicks. They'd get money outta me if this happened

    @fredmedinaii4364@fredmedinaii43642 жыл бұрын
  • This is actually my favorite game in Borderlands series I haven't played three though I'm well aware of the girl & the Mary Sue nonsense But I actually really like this game I've been begging for years for them to add a button to turn off your action skill or do something and they did and it actually recharges it faster and that made me happy also grenade jumping kind of worked so that was cool to. at least if I remember right

    @joeyidc3212@joeyidc3212 Жыл бұрын
  • this DLC probably would have been sick to play if it was completed

    @RianFox@RianFox Жыл бұрын
  • I would've loved this.

    @wafflesoldier7957@wafflesoldier79572 жыл бұрын
  • I ❤️ Cl4p TP, TPS is my favourite BL, It would have been great this DLC...

    @victoriaabrilvazquez9863@victoriaabrilvazquez98632 жыл бұрын
  • Aww, That Raid Boss Looked Awesome :(((

    @bigwoke5956@bigwoke59562 жыл бұрын
  • This reminds me of the cruise ship that the Maliwan ownd

    @attonixgreen2868@attonixgreen28682 жыл бұрын
  • I'm honestly super sad this DLC didn't make it. Seemed like it would have been really fun and the concept art made it look great. I also remember seeing the speical heads and skins for this too but can't recall where. Honestly this would have made a great first DLC. Like the vacation DLC for Borderlands 2.

    @blueangelsapphir7524@blueangelsapphir75242 жыл бұрын
  • Controversial opinion: If this game got the same post launch support as borderlands 2, I genuinely think this would’ve been the best game in the franchise.

    @viagrabuffalo5141@viagrabuffalo51412 ай бұрын
  • 5:32 I’d like to think of this as a boss type enemy that appears somewhere in the dlc

    @samuraiturtle.2637@samuraiturtle.2637 Жыл бұрын
  • Not gonna lie luxy dlc idea gives me Doctor Who and Terror of the Vervoids vibes Spa cruise, Hostile plant species and such..wonder if it was some inspiration

    @KillerMeme@KillerMeme2 жыл бұрын
  • I am indeed upset that this didn’t see the light of day, also at the end I got an ad For the new venom movie that I wanted to see that I won’t be able to see so that just put salt on the wound

    @GopnikSvoloch@GopnikSvoloch2 жыл бұрын
  • Iv always wondered what claptrap thought of auralias death

    @dextergoodman6446@dextergoodman644610 ай бұрын
  • Yeah I heard that they essentially repurposed the assets from this expansion with the fight for sanctuary DLC.

    @oneminutewonder77@oneminutewonder772 жыл бұрын
  • they showed just add to borderlands 3

    @putridblightking1697@putridblightking16972 жыл бұрын
  • maybe the helper bots were what came before claptrap units. like a line that was replaced but sold off to the cruse line for cheep you know. heh maybe claptrap could have made a snide remarke at one

    @justan324@justan3242 жыл бұрын
  • Personally gearbox could work on it and add it in with the second season pass of borderlands 3 since space and traveling to planets has been the norm so far

    @cryokuma79@cryokuma792 жыл бұрын
  • I'm not really into tps but this looked so good.

    @gaelicsmurf8742@gaelicsmurf87422 жыл бұрын
  • I feel like they can bring this dlc to life in bl3. If done right it could be really interesting

    @mattmeyer99@mattmeyer992 жыл бұрын
  • Man, I wish we got that DLC.

    @tomb3782@tomb37822 жыл бұрын
  • bro i wanted this dlc so bad

    @ragingbeast1578@ragingbeast15782 жыл бұрын
  • Sounds like a lot of this was reused in part for Lilith dlc and first 2 BL3 dlcs

    @montgomeryfitzpatrick473@montgomeryfitzpatrick4732 жыл бұрын
  • I felt like the pre-sequel was always tremendously underrated and would have loved to play this DLC. It looks amazing. I don't know if we're getting a borderlands 4 or just a season 3 to borderlands 3 over time. However, I do feel like I would like to see this DLC come back as a story concept, but I don't know that it should be anytime soon given the idea of luxury and space kind of was taken by the handsome jackpot.

    @daltonanderson2918@daltonanderson29182 жыл бұрын
  • I feel as if auralia would have dragged them along or froze them if they didnt do it since she spent so much pocket change on it

    @thingthing7926@thingthing79262 жыл бұрын
  • I do think it would've been cool

    @trashypunkman7559@trashypunkman75592 жыл бұрын
  • Iv never heard of this before

    @felixcorona13@felixcorona1310 ай бұрын
  • I love bl been playing for 10 years loved tps and I wish this was added or do a remake for tps

    @Ballsman893@Ballsman8932 жыл бұрын
  • If I had to guess, I'd say that Jack offered Athena and the others the vacation in order to get back in Athena's good graces (for his own uses). Athena, thinking that maybe Jack wasn't as bad as she thought and was just in shock when they opened the Elpis Vault, returned to his employ for the events of Claptastic Voyage, then realized she was wrong at the end when Jack executed Claptrap and left for good. After all, people _do_ tend to make incredibly irrational decisions when under stress, in pain or when angry, and Jack was all three by the end of the main game. It could be logical for Athena to incorrectly assume that Jack just had a temporary mental breakdown after everything that happened to him, and was somewhat willing (if hesitant) to rejoin his ranks when he wanted them to go into Claptrap's mind.

    @sputnikmann6541@sputnikmann65412 жыл бұрын
  • Wilhelm supremacy

    @VC-08@VC-082 жыл бұрын
  • It sucks that they basically retconned the entire game. I would have been super hyped up if they played off the presequel “war is coming” and had the vault hunters getting into some really big fights. I thought they were gonna play it like the Eridians got invaded by this other dimension/galaxy, and the vaults were either weapons depots where the eridians kept their strongest biological war machines, or they could be more like prisons built to contain the monsters unleashed upon them by their enemy, or heck maybe both would work. The reason why war is going to break out is because either the enemy is returning, or the vaults are beginning to weaken and would unleash countless horrors onto the planets they inhabit. It also could have been an eridian civil war where most of the civilization was wiped out and only a few factions remain hidden in the ruins. The Eridian from TPS is a friendly faction while some other faction wants to wipe out the humans who took over their homes after they disappeared. I also thought they might take a more character creation targeted approach as the eridian said we were going to need every vault hunter we can get. They could have used a class based system like wonderlands seems to be trying to let everyone create their own vault hunter. This wouldn’t even hurt the series as vault hunters get very little individuality(story wise) with BL3 basically making the vault hunter completely irrelevant. So much cool stuff could have been done, yet they went with probably the worst option possible.

    @zythesly@zythesly2 жыл бұрын
  • Looks like it could work for bl3 but the handsome jackpot is too similar to the neon aesthetic

    @monsieurm3989@monsieurm39892 жыл бұрын
  • I get a weird Cyberpunk Metroid vibe from this…in a good way!

    @yeez13@yeez132 жыл бұрын
  • WALL-E meets Galaxy High. Who else remembers Galaxy High?

    @judsongaiden9878@judsongaiden98782 жыл бұрын
  • It makes me sad to see all this potential. Like I'm sad for not getting new endgame content for Bl3 while there's so much potential too.

    @atlantic604@atlantic6042 жыл бұрын
  • My thoughts on this dlc is that, if it was actually made, TPS could easily be the 2nd best borderlands game (no way any is topping Borderlands 2)

    @Dusk9495@Dusk94956 ай бұрын
  • The answer is yes we should have gotten just need more the story

    @bloodknight1371@bloodknight13712 жыл бұрын
  • Sounds like a mix of Borderlands and among us

    @TheMosteel@TheMosteel2 жыл бұрын
  • i don't know why people hate the pre-sequel it has some of the most fun characters to play along with one of the best dlcs

    @spohkr4436@spohkr44369 ай бұрын
  • This dlc could've been my reason to revisit the pre-sequel. But it's not here.

    @michaelhuff7712@michaelhuff77122 жыл бұрын
  • Bro, if the Pre-Sequel actually had this, I would've loved it, it seems so cool and interesting, but instead we got a lackluster, imo, final dlc for bl2

    @DatTacoPlace@DatTacoPlace2 жыл бұрын
    • I really like commanders lilith dlcs but you gotta admit at least it was free.

      @externalboss9404@externalboss94042 жыл бұрын
  • I love the pre sequel its one of my favorites but everyones is talking about how its the most underated game and not mentioning how good and underated that **tales from the borderlands** is! Or really mentioning it at all

    @mr_indie_fan@mr_indie_fan2 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think Tales from the borderlands is underated. I just think it's a game forgotten by the community. You are right, Tales from the Borderlands is really very little played compared to Borderlands tps (only 20 avg players vs 450 avg players on tps on steam). I don't think Tales is underated simply because it's not really a game that receives many negative reviews from the community (I don't think so). Borderlands tps is the most criticized borderlands on social networks. Moreover, Tales from the borderlands isn't a fps game like the others Borderlands, it's just a graphic adventure. Borderlands tps is my favorite borderlands and I have honestly seen many negative reviews about tps.

      @mrnicj100@mrnicj1002 жыл бұрын
  • Thai would have been so much cooler than commander Lilith…

    @psychosparten049.esquire9@psychosparten049.esquire92 жыл бұрын
  • Guys what if 2K gets back into Pre sequel & add one last final DLC like they did in borderlands 2?

    @SimpleTakes0@SimpleTakes02 жыл бұрын
  • does this mean it's in the directors cut? 👀👀👀👀

    @Sir_Twiggy@Sir_Twiggy2 жыл бұрын
  • Meanwhile I'm here waiting for more of the One Piece story recap.

    @PlebNC@PlebNC2 жыл бұрын
  • I wish in some universe we could play as the Vault Hunters from BL2 and The Pre-Sequel. Imagine having Maya and Aurelia on the same team! Enemies would never escape 😈

    @tensai_kodai@tensai_kodai2 жыл бұрын
  • Is it only me who thinks the logo bare some resembles with The Jimmy Neustron movie

    @GinGojira@GinGojira2 жыл бұрын
  • 2022 THEY SHOULD JUST FINISH IT AND DROP IT WOULD BE DOPE oops caps

    @PringleHQ@PringleHQ2 жыл бұрын
  • Wait each 6 characters were gonna get 6 new heads gearbox & 2k should hav just finished the luxy dlc themselves what a great dlc it would hav been not as good as claptastic voyage.

    @mikejett2733@mikejett27332 жыл бұрын
  • Do you think that the Add ons for bl3 and now tiny tinas wonderland prove that gearbox essentially admits that bl3 was a huge failure and that the only way they could try to regain fans is to fanservice us with obvious rips from bl2? Handsome jackpot, “kreigtastic voyage”. It just feels like that, by making these, they srr admitting that bl3 is not interesting enough to stand on its own merits

    @fulltimeslackerii8229@fulltimeslackerii82292 жыл бұрын
  • It looks very cool and interesting, however I think gearbox needs to move away from BL. They clearly understand how to make a fun game and fun characters, but just like with wonderland they need to step away from just BL with a different skin. I would like to see gearbox embrace their art style and wacky/dark sense of humor on full on fantasy RPGs, that dont have guns and tons guns. Im good with spin offs, but use them to experiment with cool mechanics and to expand the lore. I hope wonderland isn't just BL with gimmicky spells/melee combat and D&D sprinkles.

    @NuclearAbyss@NuclearAbyss2 жыл бұрын
  • reminds me of atomic heart tbh

    @gnarsly@gnarsly2 жыл бұрын
  • Not first

    @idrinkpepsi@idrinkpepsi2 жыл бұрын
  • Nah it was the community and 2k Australia being messy

    @STALKER777LK@STALKER777LK2 жыл бұрын
  • Third (i think)

    @bulbartle@bulbartle2 жыл бұрын
  • First lol

    @justyturner4387@justyturner43872 жыл бұрын
    • Second

      @raindancejam9466@raindancejam94662 жыл бұрын
    • Same here too

      @yuichiusagirabbitpawssnow4820@yuichiusagirabbitpawssnow48209 ай бұрын
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