Back in 2015, Anthony Martial exploded onto the scene in a way that very few people do.
Hopes were high and it looked like he was next up. However, he very arguably has not improved all that much since he stepped foot in the scene. 27 years old later in the year, is there still time for him to fulfill his clearly massive potential?
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00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Early Life and Rise
02:43 - Manchester United: A Special start
04:58 - Consistency?
07:40 - The problem with Anthony Martial
Producer: Tinashe Chipako
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On the bright side, Fifa seems to consistently rerelease higher and higher rated cards since he's always in such peak form 🙄
Unironically, Martial is one of the reasons I quit FIFA. Can't deal with the sweats.
@@FootballIconic Fifa is one of the reasons I quit Fifa... ratings are senseless to real performance but mainly the game is just a headache haha
Who cares about fifa when the topic is football? It's a card collecting simulator, nothing else.
Fifa is why I quit fifa lmfaaoooooo fair response mate 😅😅💀💀
@@FootballIconic iv never played any FIFA online ever, but gave it up because of the high speed ping pong gameplay, its horrible. PES is awful in its own ways but I can just about stomach it in small doses.
I still remember it well today, the day that boy play his 1st game against us (Liverpool). The ball movement, impresive body strength and a good finish on top of that. I scared sh1tless, I thought this man will haunt us for years to come. Such a shame he turned out like this.
His first year was so good. and I may be reading into it too much, but that first season may have gotten to his head. He has stayed the same since then.
@@FlyingKoreanMinja if he stayed the same, it'll be good. He terribly declined. And it's his attitude that's most pissing
@@damilaresanusi5430 I don't think there's much wrong with MU's player, it's the whole MU system around them which promotes and rewarded mediocrity
Guaranteed if he ended up at Liverpool they would’ve made him an amazing player
@@arminius6506 exactly g!
He was a potential Ball'on dor winner. But at that time, United signed 3 strikers per every other player in the field.
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And then the final slap to the face...signing Ronaldo. Unless he's willing to learn from one of the greatest players to ever play the game, revitalize his game and train like Ronaldo, he'd unfortunately will never hit the heights he was destined to reach - he's in the perfect position if you think about it (if United don't end up and sell him). I was one of the guys that actually started following his career while he was at Monaco. I'm a huge Martial fan, so you can just think how much this hurts. But let's hope Ronaldo stays, as well as Martial - For the sake of Martial of course.
@@leonlucas368 ronaldo wont stay, why would he step foot in europa league when he never did before. Messi never played europa, ronaldo should never play europa, goats dont play europa.
they signed 3 strikers cause martial was shit XD
if you think/thought this, you’re clearly a british “person” who knows nothing about this sport
Him and Depay were meant to keep United at the top. So good that side could have been with a 18 year old Luke Shaw
So much promise
Yea and Luke sure has been consistently worse then both of them yet he is still at Utd! The club is actually a joke
@@kingcarnik8871 shaw was solid before the leg break.
@@bparahag before the leg break? that was like 6 years ago fella! And he had been there for two seasons before that leg break where he was terrible! Every manager he’s had has called him out attitude fitness performance! My point is I don’t see videos on shaw like these martial videos
I've always liked Anthony Martial, that debut goal against Liverpool made me so happy as a Man U fan. I kept backing him even when he was struggling, but it's clear to me that he has lost his way massively. I don't think he'll be the same player again, one goal for Sevilla last season says it all. He should move to a bottom half Prem club imo, he might redeem something from his career if he does that.
I guess the same should be said about rashford . Both have nearly identical records
@@daltonpolius5238 Yeah, Rashford has declined massively. He was appalling last season. He doesn't look interested most of the time. I'd give him one more season though. If he doesn't perform, then he needs to go.
@@MG-hi9shnow Rashford is in ballon dor form 🤷♂️
@@streyy1740is he?
I see him as being one of those young talented players in any sport that needed to stay playing. In every sport there is a young player that is viewed highly and gets thrown into the deep end immediately. That player shows they deserved their spot and then for some reason, a team will feel the need to lessen that player's position within the team. This has 2 outcomes. The player looks at it as a challenge and aims to prove they should be chosen....or the players mentals breaks and they start to under perform and get worse and worse. Why does this happen? Its all mentals. Young players aren't mentally strong enough to handle sudden change when they are at the top of their game. It can really hurt them to be doing so good just to end up getting replaced or benched. An example I'll use is Moritz Seder of the Detroit Red Wings. Seder got thrown into the deep end. He over performed to what was expected and won rookie of the year. The Red Wings plan for him to be one of their key stars going forward. But imagine if they start the 2023 season by sending Seder to the AHL, minor leagues basically. That could mentally break Seder and it could make him worse not better. In context for Tony. Man United saw him look amazing, then basically replaced him. Breaking him mentally. Now this isn't to remove all blame from Martial, bc he could've been mature enough to take this as a challenge to perform better when he got chances too. But Man United hindered him. When he first wanted to leave, they should have allowed it. He would have been better off going to Aletico or Barc or even Dortmund. The 2 players who took the 9 position from him...that decision ruined Tony's development. And from there he's immature mentals, his anger towards that has stuck around and he further declines bc of his own mental inability to just work harder and play.
I hope that ManUtd don't do the same thing to Sancho, another unbelievably talented and great footballer that has had his performance diminished by terrible management and coaching decisions.
@@MrReese It would suck. Man United stays having talented players up front but not getting the performances from them we'd expect. We saw a team with Pogba, Sancho, and CR7 finished 6th place in the league. We saw promising futures from Daniel James, Lingard, Rashford, Martial and none of them seem to be developing how we thought, 3 of those players got moved to other teams. Something is wrong at Man United in player development. Something is wrong at Man united to where bringing back folks like CR7, Pogba, Alexi Sanchez and other stars didn't equal success. There is a problem that only Man United seem to be facing rn. Look around Europe...Barcelona's youth players in the main squad all look promising. Man United wants Frenkie from them. Young players with Man City seem to be doing fine. Real has young players succeeding. Teams at the top signing stars...succeeding. Why is Man United struggling with both stars and with young players? They changed managers, nothing changed on the pitch and in player development. This might be a question for @Football Iconic to dive into.
@@UTxTheArchangel Look at a lot of ManUnited players antics outside of the pitch. They have to much time on their hands to focus on anything but football
@@UTxTheArchangel The managers since Ferguson have been a problem at United almost all the time, even though I think Van Gaal was generally good and Mourinho too. United does not seem to have a system that is played by all of their squads (youth team, reserve, etc.) and they randomly buy players that then do not fit in their ever-changing system. I hope for them that their new coach will bring in some consistency and that they give him the time to actually change something, because Rangnick did not get the time nor the power. The higher ups need to give up their power in order to have success, but so far they did not want to.
he will be like malouda
There are alot of Martial apologists in these comments but hes honestly just not at the level we hoped he would be. In my opinion he falls short of expectations because of his mentality and approach to the game. He wants the ball short everytime/rarely runs in behind, he struggles to hold up the ball with his back to goal, in space he turns down 1v1 dribbling opportunities, and he *always* comes inside on his right foot. Its so predictable for opposing teams that he becomes a passenger up the pitch and a liability in transition. What hurts me the most is he came into United running at every defender and making them look silly now he doesn't even try to run with the ball or get isolated with defenders. It's such a head scratcher.
Agree. I feel like he has the talent and ability, but doesn't use it. During the periods where he has played well, he did all of the things you criticize him for very well. He made runs in behind, held the ball up incredibly well etc. I see a lot of similarities between him and rashford right now. Both have ability to be very good, but neither is making it happen
@@miogerell9442 agreed during project restart Martial was doing most of these things. Even his movement in the box was great. Its similar for rashford so maybe it really is a confidence issue.
Like the guy stated it seems like he is a confidence player. When he started out everyone believed in him and LVG made him his star man. However I didn't get why after that season Mourinho gave him this little of a role. It's not like United performed that year in the league (Their FA Cup and Europa League win saved their season). I think these 2 years robbed him completely of his confidence. Then he started performing after being made the number 9 and then injuries happen, his place is given to Cavani and after that season they buy Ronaldo.
In other words, he’s the anti-Giroud
So you think there's the lack of work ethic as a big factor?
I think Tony's potential has so far not been fulfilled partly due to the coaching/environment at Utd. He strikes me as the type who needs to be loved/showered with positivity. I'd imagine him being great on a team under the likes of Klopp or Fergie from years past. He's young enough to turn it around, but it's almost a now or never type situation. Hopefully the mood lifts under 10hag
Another Friday Night, another episode of Football Iconic delight.
*rubs hands*
8:36 Martial is probably best described as an inside forward; that would explain why he had the potential to be good as both a winger and centre forward.
Your documentaries are A+ and has a very nice mood and warmth to it..getting addicted to your videos, keep up the good work
0:10 I pray that I have this much confidence in my life,just like this guy😂
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i found you not long ago, i really love your videos ! i binged them all in a week haha, thanks for the content !!
Thanks man haha!
I really like the calm tone in your videos !! Thanks for the cool content
Martial and Henry in the same sentence is just horrific
Really great video in terms of both information and editing. Subbed!
Bro I just wanna say I enjoy your videos sooo much I could watch them all day
Good content like always!
How are we feeling about Anto under a proper coach like ETH now? His pressing, link play and finishing has been absolutely top.
Love ur vids mate! I just subbed yesterday because i binged some of your videos and boom!, A new video right away
dude you deserve more subscribers, your content is amazing.
Bro I just realized you only have 151k subs. WHATT!??? You're criminally underrated my guy.
Brilliant video. First time seeing this channel and I have subscribed. Keep up the good work mate
Love your videos, they’re an instant watch for me. Would love a video about Beckham in his MUFC days, brev!
Hold your tongue you’re seeing how well he’s playing rn
Came back here after Martial's great pre-season hotstreak form "MARTIAL WILL BE THE BEST PLAYER IN TH- MARTIAL WILL BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD!!!"
great video as always! id love to hear your thoughts on this transfer season in a future video.
I always thought he had a lot of talent, but perhaps one struggling with confidence. Let's not forget that he has not been the only frustrated player at Man Utd in recent time... I would like to see him have a comeback season. p.s. suggestion: upcoming vid on Ole Gunnar Solskjær's managerial run.
You never miss dude, love your content!
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@@FootballIconicThis is the first video from this channel that I have seen. When man said Martial will be the best in the world, and the dog popped up with the side eye, I subscribed immediately 🤣
Superb video, as always.
Bro this video hits hard cos I feel the same way. Huge fan but the situation is just frustrating!
He was hyped from the start, as per usual with young United players. Scores against Liverpool and he's hailed as a great, like Janusaj, like Macheda and so many more before.. he'll be in the Turkish league in a season or two
Great video man
Style,flair,flashy,speedy but brought in too early.Brought in as a boy with the expectation of a man.A hefty pricetag and a huge chip on his shoulders.All eyes,not only of Manchester but the world were on this boy playing as a man.The boy whose predicted to claim the balon dor.However he had failed,he had fallen and all those who had once sung his name were now praying for his downfall.Said to be lazy, uninterested. Constantly broken physically and mentally.The tale of a boy turned man Tony Martial
description fits perfectly with mbappe, but you just cant compare martial with mbappe currently.
@@endecks except mbappe hasn't flopped yet
@@endecks u are crazy
Yet, he was man enough to engage in sexual activities with random women apart from his fiancee/gf etc. No excuses lol
@@zoeysiddiqi1532 even if mbappe retires he can be considered one of the best ever. Check his stats
Don't forget he still has a ballon dor clause. 😂
Hah
My man couldn't win a balloon stuck on a door tbh. They're safe.
he already fulfilled that clause in Mark Goldbridge career mode
Some would call that good business...
Great video. Could you maybe do a video on the rivalry of Celtic and rangers.
7:33 Manolo should’ve said ‘he was cold in sunny Spain’ 😂
Really enjoyed this deep analysis. Cheers 🥂
One main thing to note is our club was killing careers left and right and Tony was better than most, in my opinion he's a good player on the ball and matches what Hag wants in a CF, if Tony can put on some muscle then he might be able to revive his Career at United
Not the fucking muscle
If you think it’s muscle and not his terrible attitude then you’re not paying attention
@@thebigquack6945 the difference is when he was scoring like crazy during his purple patch nobody was going at him about his "attitude". Is pressing pne of his strong suits, nope but other than that what has he done to show a bad attitude.... Let's see how things turn out, if Hag has an interest in Tony, anyways I'll definitely say that United Fans opinions on players have been absolutely crap and easily influenced by content creators. People said Rashford was an absolute baller when he was scoring but he imo was always overhyped cause he was english and people and convinced fans that Scott Mctominay is crap while he's been one of the most consistent performers in a very bad United side
brav do you see how huge martial is? no muscle needed. you will ruin his fluidity
Putting up muscle fucked him up under ole he lost his flair
Where you traveling my guy? Love the videos❤️
the 1st15secs were legendary🤣🤣 great stuff
Great video. I have binged a lot of your videos now and I can’t unsee the similarity with you and Jxmyhighroller. Just wondering, did he inspire your style of videos or is this just a coincidence. Great content keep it up!
Thankfully he's been preforming better this season.
I don't think any of the players have been consistent since fergie. The players have been affected by constant manager changes especially the young players. Martial and Rashford have not developed as expected and I think their progress has been hindered by the fact we have had so many managers with different styles of play. When you look at city and Liverpool young players you can see the difference. As much as Martial has played a part in his decline I think the manager changes haven't helped his case...I back him under ten hag to up his game coz this might be his final season in a united shirt if he doesn't perform
Clean share looking good man. You look like budget Marques Brownlee👍
He's my favourite united player over the last decade. On his day, he is mesmerising to watch. The terrible is his inconsistency among other things
You should do a video about Raheem Sterling. A one that shows why he actually deserves more respect and more credit. A one that proves that he’s actually world-class.
Vid about marcelo please. He was a beast for his whole career,and the Germany game just adds to the drama. Please make it happen!
Nothing happened to him? Age just got the better of him.
HES BACK
out of topic but gahdamn you're shining
Love your content! You should think about a Ji-Sung Park video! Guy was a beast!
Stay strong Martial fans, I assure you he will definitely be great player because he is a natural talented footballer with an amazing close control, great passing and shooting + if he relied on his speed and physicality like Rashford or Lukaku he would be done once the speed is gone. Look at Benzema, Giroud, Ibra and most strikers... They all had their peak after 29. And he's only 26. I'm absolutely sure he will be a great player.
I’m a United fan, Anthony Martial is and probably will forever be my favourite footballer - got so many shirts including this years one I will admit he’s been poor since 2020 but i think his average performances are very overlooked, i think when he has bad games he’s just often not involved, as opposed to lack of quality, i also think all of the best parts about his game are also overlooked which is link up play, hold up play, IQ and decision making etc. Hope he turns out good, love him 🇫🇷🏆
Favourite footballer? 🤣🤣🤣 You're definitely about 12 and haven't watched a full season past 14/15
You’re unbelievably deluded mate.
Totally agree mate 💯
In regards to Martial's position I would say naturally he is a LF, a hybrid between a LW and a CF. He would probably work well as a wide left striker in a 2 striker combo, a LW in a narrow 433 and as a LAM in a 4231 in my opinion.
Di Maria video next? Underrated icon
Love your content bro. Ever since his break up with his first wife, it was downhill from there. The drama with cheating and unable to manage his family well at such a young age played a part in his downward spiral in form.
He would be a decent 10 or second striker maybe a decade or 2 ago. But in todays game you can't carry anyone. A single weak point in your press can leave the whole system exposed. First man beaten means the next man might have 2 or 3 players to cover... On the ball his amazing but through balls are huge for quick transitions, wanting ball to feet every single time is ridiculous.
Teams can still carry passengers, but they need to be high scoring forwards and strikers only, like prime Messi, prime Ronaldo, prime Salah, not midfielders like pogba, the magic number is over 40 goals a season in my opinion, and you need young legs in the midfield to cover for them, once they fail to hit that number, they are a liability.
@@marianchicago4002 prime Salah? Have you seen salah press? Have you heard what klopp said about every players having to press and defend except messi and ronaldo? If you don't run in city or liverpool you are not even on the bench.
I love y vids bruh
Anthony “Ice Cold” Martial & Marcus “Ballon D’or” Rashford may both need a permanent move soon.
Thought you’ve give more perspective and talk about his personal life(which is public anyways) and how that “may” have affected him. Especially after pointing out he’s a confidence player.
Good vid
I'm losing my feeling of time. It feels like he just arrived in Manchester but he's actually playing his 8th season there already.
He’s back
That intro 🔥
I preferred your old style of videos tbh. Was mysterious
Martin Tyler's commentry on that debut goal was unforgettable 🙏, but i hope he'll come thorough.
The potential was always there, but so were the warning signs. It was evident as early as his first appearances for France, even more apparent under Mourinho, and its no surprise his best form came during the pandemic when there were no distractions, nothing but Football to focus on
Good breakdown I like that
Martial and rashford starting to feel like 2 sides of the same coin especially after that season they finished on similar numbers under ole
Only difference is Rashford never for dropped, despite his poor performances. Martial never had that treatment
@@BANYHU123 no the only difference is mentality. Rashford has plenty of it but in terms of ceiling I think they are quite similar. That’s why I say two sides of the same coin. Ofc each side have differences but a quarter is still a quarter
You blame Martial for being a flop, but not Raheem when he wasn't playing for any team other than City? It is all about coaching. Or are players just supposed to be magically born with the tactical side as well? Years on the bench with less talented players playing ahead of him. Would score the winner and then get sat back on the bench next game. People say he only plays well when he gets support....AND? You would rather boo your own player than do what a fan is supposed to do for your player. When it comes to Rashford, it's always "Oh he needs more game-time to play his way into form"....And Martial doesn't? I really hope he gets the proper continuous chance to prove himself
Your argument would be good if only you also fairly showed that he wasn't first pick for many good reasons. The modern winger has to track back and Martial had one of the worst defensive work rates in the United squad. I remember under Mourinho he was bottom 3 of a squad of 25 in terms of defensive tackles. Our LB was caught out so often because of him. And what can managers do if players aren't willing to buy the philosophy or work rate? Could Mourinho be ANYMORE DIRECT with them about their work rate? Pogba also did jack defensively. People mocked Mourinho for killing creativity, but the same criticism were shared by every single of one Pogba's ex managers, except Deschamps and Conte had star studded teams to cover the cracks.
Okay that Sterling comparison doesn't work in any way so I'm just ignoring it. But what I have issues with Martial is how despite how talented he is, there are so many parameters to meet to get that. Confidence, quality players, proper rotation and more, just a get a sliver of his quality. I also don't understand his attitude through the Sevilla loan, when he specifically wanted to leave when Rangnick came. And as for Rashford and him, they are on the same boat for me. Players experiencing a lull in quality that could be replaced this year or the next. I just hope he goes in this season with good morale, because there's no excuse honestly.
Raheem isn't a flop, sure he isn't as good as he should be.... Misses loads of chances etc but the guy is a great footballer and is a winner... Raheem shows commitment and effort, martial does not.
Would like to see some more unknown players from outside top 5 leagues, as a Rangers FC fan I have 2 that people should know more about. The pundit Ally McCoist stuck with us for most of his career, I know Scottish league isnt top quality but he bagged over 350 goals for us in all competitions and a what if - what if he moved elsewhere? (Remember, it was before England had tv money). He had consecutive +30 goals a season for us in the league which, regardless of league is impressive - he didnt do that once, he done it twice (86/87 & 87/88 and 91/92 & 92/93). Another one that would have been world class imo if he could have sorted his injury issues, Marco Negri - his goal return was incredible for us and could have been better in time. Played less than 300 games, scored over 100 goals.. Doesnt sound that great in terms of world class but, he was averaging a goal every other game -- while battling non-stop injuries. I mean, for us he only played 30 games but scored 32. A long decent career without injuries, say 600 games and he could have had anywhere between 300-400 goals..
Please a video on AC Milan in the 90s and then on the 2000s
Crazy how he was the Mbappe before Mbappe coming out of the stacked Monaco team
Loved Tony when he first came to United, but I completely agree with everything you said in this. Incredibly frustrating to see his lack of effort and development. Great video again Tinashe, also really loving the frequency of new videos coming out! All the best
Agreed
The reason he never tried hard is because he was given a shed load of money so had no real reason to work hard. Same with Rashford - it doesnt matter if they play well, they will still be paid tons of money so whats the point in working hard?
A real shame. Thanks!
@@FootballIconic I know you must get recommendations all the time, but have you thought of making Roy Keane's dreams come true and making one on Denis Irwin lol?
Great take/documentary on Martial. Can you do one for Oscar? The Brazilian wonder kid who left Chelsea for Asia cuz of money?
the psg sporting director bit killed me. Haven't been able to recover
Goated football KZheadr
Unfortunate for him, but just as important as skill and heart are to playing at the highest level, so are consistency and adaptability. If you're only able to produce under specific circumstances ideal to you and even then you're hit or miss, then I'm afraid your days are numbered. If you want to keep suiting up you're either a) killing it so much the team give you your preferred role, or b) you're making yourself useful whichever way the coach employs you. There are too many skilled players out there chomping at the bit to take your spot for anyone to be complacent. It's the just nature of the business.
Great video Tinashe this guy is so talented its frustrating i actually nick named hime the Lazy one! 😂😂😂 As a fan of utd i have seen Elanga, Rashford, and McTominay working on their bodies and physicality to improve their game but him no, imagine if he put in the work he would have been our Sergio Aguero perhaps thats why he is always injured also.
How do you feel now, never write-off Martial. What a great player!
Nailed it with the last problem
It seems only FIFA the game got it right with Antony but tbh In a poacher type system like Bayern I think he can do well but he would have to get rid of some bad habits like the ones you mentioned and also needs a mentality change as well
Hey man! The clean shaven look suits you! Keep up the good work ❤️
He played a bit of a blinder in Bangkok. Seems in great form.
He must have watched this as he done well in pre Season
Arguable if Martin Tyler is a legend, but he's definitely a Man Utd supporter and @ 30 years old you just made me realize the fact :'D
Nice analysis. The defensive stats are very telling. He might do better in a less competitive league where you can get away with one talented luxury player who doesn't press. Or a team of triers and hard workers who need a cutting edge (Brighton?!) But with the choice between Ronaldo and Martial for that role, you have to go for the guy who regularly scores goals, and it ain't AM. Plenty of other talented players who have crashed and burned in this way. Remember Adel Taarabt? Even Wilfried Zaha who struggled at Man U but has played that "special talent" role at Crystal Palace before and after.
Can you do a video about how football media and sports media in general can be toxic at times because they sometimes hate on a player based on a couple of bad performances the media acts like no player can have a bad performance but every athlete in every sport not just football has a bad performance. And I also feel just because they’re getting paid to play the sport that they love footballers and athletes are people too they have feelings just like all of us and the media criticizing them and telling them how bad they are hurts them mentally and psychologically. Love your videos
Cough Pogba cough cough
hurts so much one of the first players i really cheered up
Great humor bro
I genuinely think ten Hag can get the best out of him, he has unbelievable talent and just needs the right manager. Hopeful for Tony the right manager has just arrived.
0:17 that clip is iconic
Make one about Ronaldinho and Ronaldo Nazario, legends
The experienced PSG sporting director jab made me laugh lol.
Martial definitely saw this, ate a bowl of senzu beans, and chipped Alisson into the floor
A video on Jack Wilshere, please. ( Man utd fan here)
He had all the talent and skill. He was gifted and had all the potential to be a top striker. The thing is he had a stellar first season with MU and all that equaled: more pressure on him + thinking he made it and was a bonafide star + injuries. So you get to where we are now. The English media already were calling him the next Henry and that did no favors to his reported bad attitude and arrogance. It’s a shame but at the same time, he has no one to blame but himself. He’s had loads of opportunities. That said.. he’s still young! Hopefully under ETH he had a sort of renaissance (if he stays). I’m still a fan of his. I will say that.. I always thought he would have flourished and grown more under Wenger. I think he would have stuck with him until he left Arsenal
hey, can you please do a video of one of the greatest midfielders of all time, arguably (and is) the greatest midfielder of all time, Andres Inietsa??
You should do an episode on James Rodríguez to complete the fifa 17 cover saga
Quick question..how do you edit your KZhead videos?