S23 Ultra Teardown: Right to Repair Forcing Samsung Towards Repairable Design
2023 ж. 21 Ақп.
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Samsung's S23 Ultra is making waves. Apparently, the South Korean giant is catching up with Apple in both hardware and software. I’ll let the tech reviewers decide if that's true or not, I’m more interested in what’s new under the hood.
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How Completely software locked phone getting 7/10 and a phone without any software locks getting 4/10 For using too much glue. And Samsung provides debugging software for everyone of their phones. Reparability score really needs to include software Not just the hardware.
Even if you only care about hardware i phones have security screws so that is not getting any negative points ? .
Agree
@@Gokul_Yt no, because the screw drivers are very common
@@mus_xr4653 IPA is also very common
The screens on the s23 and s23 ultra are irreplaceable. If you want to replace a screen you would have to replace the screen and the full frame, making the after market repairs unaffordable
Samsung is not catching up with the hardware with Apple, dude Samsung S8 received the best Smartphone design award years ago where Apple was just a slab of metal. The Fold, the flip, and the curved display is innovative. Apple just buys display from Samsung.
You give it 4/10 but other repair channels give it 9/10... So what is going on here? Why have you more trouble and negative view on it than others? Explain it. Compared to iPhone14, it get much negative score and it's reported software locked. Then compared to others, iPhone 14 should have 2/10 score here.
Well i think the main problem with Samsung is still the curved screen, that is just so much harder/pricier to repair than flat screens(And ofc the insane amount of glue in the whole device). Is it worse to repair than a software-locked screen thought? Hard question indeed...
@StarfoxHUN So, a part that CAN be replaced while retaining FULL functionality vs a part that CAN be replaced WITHOUT retaining full functionality is a toss up? Heat plate or heat gun at 173F/80C does quick work of the glue.
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1:31 i don't agree at all on this pulltab. Your perception is IMHO influenced by the fact you tear down brand new phones, so the "stretchy adhesive trips" Apple uses work as intended on new iphones. But if you're replacing the battery after 3 years of ownership, all the heat cycles from charging and using the phone "destroy" that adhesive, meaning no matter how careful you are those stretchy stips are gonna break and you end up having to pry out, risking battery puncture. This kind of "huge pulltab" Samsung has adopted (and was already in use by Huawei and One Plus i believe) might prove less convenient but it gives a consistent battery removal procedure even years down the line. Also, this requires no additional tools, while the iPhone adhesive strips have to be grabbed with tweezers and almost always more extensive disassembly of the phone (taking out the taptic engine for example).
ok all the hands collectively pulling the battery out gave me a good laugh lol 1:50
That 4/10 rating is evidently wrong
Samsung phones have always been repairable. The greater worry now is them lobbying to block aftermarket OLED panels being imported to the US.
@TROLL_MASTER you remove it and glue on a new one?
Do you know when you guys will get the self repair kits for the s23 line in stock?
Is the aluminum side piece which I assume is a part of the midframe replaceable ? I have dropped it a few times with case and would not like to deal with it the entire time I have the phone
Will you guys be doing a chip ID at all? There's definitely some pretty significant changes to the sound. I am curious to see if Samsung have upgraded the amplifiers to the newer higher powered Cirrus models that are in the ROG 5/6 phones or if they've just stuck with the older models, and only upgraded the speakers.
Chip ID is coming soon!
@@iFixitYourself🔙
That's some pretty good news. After all these years of no pull tab at all, even a barely functional pull tab is a great first move (hopefully of many)
99% alchohol works wonders lol as a samsung authorized technician
I’m glad Samsung Google has partnered up with you guys to help people fix their devices. I wish Apple didn’t software lock all of their components to the motherboard. now, if we want to fix our Apple devices we have to read a long ass manual. i’m glad Google and Samsung just make it quick and easy.
@No offense the idea is to have CHOICES. apple charges an insane for out of warranty/apple care repairs that are frankly not worth it for older devices. and they can also refuse to service your device, or maybe apple repair is just not convenient in an area. for this reason, it is EXTREMELY important to have 3rd party repair option so people are not at the mercy of one company to get their things working again. if you would like apple to fix your things, great, im glad they can help with that, but you should never support apple's decision to lock down repairs so other people cannot fix things their way too
@No offense they serialize components and then tie them to a motherboard
@No offense how is a serialized display going to secure your device?
@No offense way to ignore my question.
@@nooffense911 am trying to be positive and neutral here. the anti-theft move has sacrifice to right-to-repair move, and vice versa. some people saw this is disadvantage that makes their phone is irreparable, thus the beliefs "not owning their phone"; and some thinks this is one of cash-grabber attempt, which makes sense for me. some people also saw this is advantage that any counterfeits cannot be sold. in fact, it worked pretty well; since iPhone 12, i have seen less (if not never) any new iPhone sold that has been "frankensteined" with another poor quality components, despite with same high price or less. with serialized and high price components, it makes almost impossible to fake the phone. me who never own any apple products (yet), saw this as both points. the real problem is that any evil people could misuse the right to repair for their own money. nowadays it is have been a big dilemma between increasing repairability and preventing counterfeits. i hope there is any alternative attempts that could solve both problems; products that repairable and cannot be counterfeited.
How do you do a teardown video and not show off the new, larger, vapor chamber? No shots of the motherboard? Jesus.
What is the cable to the far left over the battery when you're disconnecting it? Alot of videos don't have that
Bahaha the three or four people on the pull tab was hilarious!
in my country indonesia, i see lot of samsung oled screen got separating from its base on its own, usually back cover loose first, and i have lot of repair chinese screen not only because its crack but the flexible damaged from hanging the screen because their glue is gone(sorry for my bad english 😅)
but will it work when you put it back together?
cracking work. amazing tools.
Hello, I'm sorry, if you can help me, on the S23 Ultra screen, I press exactly the part where the copper foil is located behind the periscope camera, it makes a sound like plastic, is this sound due to the presence of the copper foil under the screen and is it normal?? I press a lot next to the volume key on the screen, it makes a sound like a hand on plastic. Please help, thank you
If you remove the back cover and reassemble it, is it waterproof or the waterproof vanish
Minimum 250 bucks on ebay for a screen + digitizer replacement kit... Sure they may have made it a bit easier to repair your device, but at the same time cracking down on accessibility to 3rd party oem parts, you are better off just going through your phone company still. This is 1 step forward and 2 step back.
Mm makes me want to sell for that reason but hopefully the price to fix it goes down with time
I cannot agree with this rating ..😂😂
Where are the internals wallpapers?
LMFAO they give it a bad score based on how they can repair the device with their flawed tools, heat and IPA will remove that back glass faster than you could try to remove that front OLED from any iPhone without going the apple route. Admit it ifixit at this point your at apples mercy.
meanwhile samsung: plotting to ban import of all oled screens
G’day from Australia. Picking up my S23 ultra pre order when I get home tomorrow 😎
batteries shouldnt be glued in to begin with
What would hold them in the frame then. You don’t want the battery shuffling around.
it damages the battery if it is not glued....
@@williamskyseraspili4779 theres a ton of different ways to attach a battery without making it risky for unexperienced users to remove In fact, i can hardly think of a more dangerous way to attach a battery than gluing it in Just look at older phones, samsungs xcover series or some laptops, it has always been possible to make a battery replacable without making it a hassle There is no excuse for a company to glue things shut except for making the product have a guaranteed shorter lifespan, batteries are always the first thing that goes
@@CommanderCodey how are AA batteries secured in place? or single button cells, car batteries, battery packs on xbox controllers and maybe the best example, older phones? its all possible, has been done before and even is done today just look at samsungs xcover series for example no glue, doesnt wiggle and youre able to replace the battery in 10s or less
@@PLPlolol1 removable batteries need bulky safety cases casue they are ment to be handled by the consumer.
See other tear downs - watching you guys take that battery out was pitiful 🤣
not sure if thi is an ultra teardown or a classic one
It would be good if Samsung put a back on the s24 series like they did until the S5, but glass with an aluminum plate against like the iphone 14 and 14 plus, and the wireless charging coil attached to the back, and the rest as it was as the S4 (with the S5 the screen had to be detached first to be able to take it apart). And the A and M series like in the past, like the galaxy A5 2015.
Cameras are getting bigger and motherboard is getting smaller...
Not really. Its not smaller. The circuit layout is just more one rectangle. Other phones uses long circuit board along the edge, like iPhones. This way battery can use full with, and the design here needs 3 big bridges. The iPhone design has no big bridges. That is why it's just another PCB design.
One major hurdle. Finding 3 friends to provide (emotional) support.
Can I swap s22 ultras internals with s23 ultra
There's something i totally don't get. Why the curvy cables in the inside? They are definitely bit more pricier to produce than straight cables, so what could be possibly the reason they make it curvy?
@@cmmartti why wont it be more expensive, when it costs more material. Yea the amount is tiny in one unit, but when you produce millions of them, it adds up.
@@cmmartti I think you did not understood my original question. What i asked actually is its purpose, as it has to have a purpose otherwise the company wont even spend even 1 millionth of a cent more /device. And I'm thankful for your theorizing about its reason, but i'd looking for something more 'decising' than an 'i think' or something along those lines.
My S23 Ultra has the defect in the bottom right corner. It is too late. I have turned on the phone. How can I fix the problem?
Relax, this is not even a defect, all previous edge phones had this similar "defect" and nobody noticed that all this years.
very happy to see a shirt that isn't a lie
LMAO, was that an MKBHD reference where he swapped S22 ultra with a S23 in his recent video.
Ya the heatpipe
Always found Samsungs to be one of the best to disassemble and repair, even with the glue they use for the battery, have always just added some IPA and walked away for a few minutes, should also note a pull tab is not new for Samsung devices it has appeared previously on some of their tablet devices.
How does this not have a headphone jack
So ridiculous, I mean the HTC Evo was advanced for it's time, and easy to work on ....... Bugs me they make it so difficult Thanks on the video though
I never have to worry about any of this as I have been using smartphones for 13 years and have never needed a repair.I am very careful with expensive devices.
i disagree on the score. at least you can repair this device without the manufacturer. even has an open bootloader. I have a galaxy s5 to play arround and i'm still able to install new custom software. All about the options.
@No offense this is a good point. Best would be the best of both worlds :)
I saw they did same thing with others device which are more repair friendly but this guy's jut favor apple. They just told iphone 14 is good but whole thing lock in software even backpart . And coust much .
Where the antenna 5g? I want to put a radiation blocker
It's look like Deception.
So they basically just added a useless pull tab to their 5 tons of glue on the battery...
"Catching up to apple in hardware"? I think you'll find they've been ahead of apple in hardware for years.
The only reason there cracking down on third-party repairs is they are losing money when they don't repair the item themselves
Habibi come to India....kids are repairing Samsung phones
I only wish apple didn’t soft lock its components.
Samsung "catching up" with Apple? Seriously?
Catching up to Apple?
A phone that gimps performance if you use 3rd party hardware gets a 7 while a phone that doesn't care about any of that gets a 4. Dayum, ifixit, whatchu smoking?
Samsung wants to have the monopoly to sell their screens which cost the same or more than a used entire phone, economically totalling the phone
Nice
What I don’t like is this huge heat pipe going straight to the battery. Good luck in having good battery life after one year of use, the battery could suffer from the processors heat!
You didn't check further it goes to big copper plate behind the screen. Heat is already distributed over big area. Battery has nothing with heat distribution!
It doesn’t. It goes behind the display.
still too little in my opnion. we gotta get back to the days where the battery were easly removeable and we gotta force modular design with standards for parts for the whole industry, the way the USB-C is going, but with all internal parts. standards needs to be enforced and mandated. it will make phones bulkier, yes, but honestly i don't care for a few more inches, and i think you shoudn't either.
we can't go back to completly removable without sacrificing around half the battery capacity which is just unacceptable, we are only finally reaching acceptable battery life these days
Personally I am disappointed with your disassembly ... You make no reference to the parts inside unfortunately, except for the camera Do we have LPDDR5X memory from there? Have we Universal Flash Storage UFS 4.0 ? You're not talking about the Qualcomm 8 G2 processor The modem in a Smartphone surely not useful either you do not speak about it X70 No inventory of parts that have actually been installed inside the Smartphone You say, what interests you is under the hood And you practically talk about there tab install to remove there battery It's like opening the hood of a race car And only watch there battery once the hood is open And you won't watch the engine with the supercharge Seriously, probably your worst disassembly since the existence of Ifixit
Yes it does have LPDDR5x. Yes it does have UFS 4.0 and I definitely do think ifixit’s teardown was disappointing and just bad in so many ways
@@LaidBackDeveloper Thanks for taking time to respond to me Can you find a website that shows the part numbers inside the S23 Ultra Or have we hoped that Ice Univer would deceive as little as possible in its predictions? Example, I believe the fingerprint reader is the same as the s22 And yet Ice Universe predicted an improvement It's only an example By the way, I really appreciate Ice Univer because they give us information very often it comes to fruition For satellite communication Qualcomm seems to say that they will be able to activate it on certain Smartphones with the 8 gen 2 During the year They said about second trimester But I believe they will also have to wait for Android 14 So might as well wait for the s24 Ultra! The possibility of a Satellite connection is very reassuring in an out-of-zone excursion of cellular networks.
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Good luck getting the original battery WITHOUT BEING FORCED to buy the expensive display as well. Yes, they make you buy both
No they do not. Where I live you can get the battery replacement without the screen. And I’m talking about from Samsung themselves
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I don't understand why they have to glue the battery down so hard. It's like they want it to explode when it comes to a replacement.
Galaxy note 7 is probably the reason
Samsung finally got tired of iFixit and JerryRigEverything harping on their insane battery adhesive and improved the design... Great job you guys!
1:55 I'm sure it was for the lulz but for the love of god use some alcohol.
Not a good tear down at all.
I hate your little jabs at Apple.
Completely useless video to watch You didn't even show the part numbers inside that Samsung put in a $2500 Canadian Smartphone You are interested in an unnecessary tab to remove there Battery for half of your video Completely useless video to watch
Ifixit is mostly a joke because they act like they would produce these products differently but they don’t nor will they ever so it’s a farce and completely hypocritical for them to judge what others do