Planescape: Torment and the Philosophy of Identity

2024 ж. 23 Мам.
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What can update the journal of a man?
A discussion of Planescape: Torment as it relates to the philosophy of identity. How do we know who we really are? How do we know that we are the same person now as we were yesterday? Can these questions really be answered in 14 minutes by referencing an old school RPG from 1999? Who knows! All I know is that this video was super fun to make. Let me know what you think in the comments!
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Sources:
John Locke, An Essay Concerning Human Understanding
Thomas Reid, Essay on the Active Powers of the Human Mind
Planescape: Torment
Also featuring music from:
Planescape: Torment
Pillars of Eternity
Oxenfree
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Thank you to Logan, a close personal friend who did voiceover for the quote by Reid
And thank you for watching!

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  • In knowing the teachings of Zerthimon, I have become stronger.

    @pantonearqm2791@pantonearqm27913 жыл бұрын
  • This is the rpg that other rpg's want to be. The pinnacle of video games stories. I still keep thinking about it every day

    @cristidenis531@cristidenis5313 жыл бұрын
  • talking about P:T with a deathconsciousness shirt on is like objectively the most avant garde first year college student thing imaginable and i'm so incredibly on board with it, A+

    @lucafossett@lucafossett9 ай бұрын
  • I'm enjoying the use of Arcanum ost in the background. Glad people still remember it.

    @weylandflores6977@weylandflores69773 жыл бұрын
    • Still waiting for a sequel...

      @mmdrezakh@mmdrezakh2 жыл бұрын
    • Arcanum was really great. Problem was that fallout 2 and Planescape were kinda better + Baldur's Gate 1-2 and later on Neverwinter Nights and Morrowind, Gothic 1-2. Arcanum came a bit too late, otherwice one of the best RPGs ever. It's like in between Baldur's Gate, Planescape and Fallout.

      @Vampire_born_in_2006@Vampire_born_in_20063 ай бұрын
  • Love you!! Edit: omg the DJ Peach Cobbler shout out hyped me up I love him too😭

    @jhallo1851@jhallo18513 жыл бұрын
  • This man literally has an objectively good taste for videogames.

    @ludwigmaxis1966@ludwigmaxis19662 жыл бұрын
  • Appreciated the video, planesscape torment is spiritual food. And the dj peach cobbler reference was quite nice too 😏✌🏻

    @sordschie3944@sordschie39442 жыл бұрын
  • This really updated my journal.

    @pielewin@pielewin2 жыл бұрын
  • It's awesome seeing you trying different things and developing your style. Keep it up! Also nice t-shirt, recently found Deathconsiousness after being recommended it while getting into Daughters.

    @hex9318@hex93183 жыл бұрын
    • Out of context that sounds... Distressing and forboding.

      @LeifMaelstrom@LeifMaelstrom2 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@LeifMaelstrompedo spotted

      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
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      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
    • @@AC-hj9tv ah, yes.

      @LeifMaelstrom@LeifMaelstrom7 ай бұрын
  • Enough about the philosophy of Planescape. I need to know the scarred man's lifting routine

    @Shotbybothsides117@Shotbybothsides1172 жыл бұрын
  • Here from your boy DJ Peach Cobbler. Subbed after viewing. Good content.

    @LeifMaelstrom@LeifMaelstrom2 жыл бұрын
    • Here from your boy PJ Cock Gobbler. Dommed after viewing. Good content.

      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
  • W for cool video, L for implying polygraph tests work.

    @ethantaylor9613@ethantaylor96133 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah they're kinda shit but so is being a lawyer so it kinda fit for the character tbh

      @ramblelime@ramblelime3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ramblelime LOL

      @jacksgames241@jacksgames2413 жыл бұрын
    • L for pointless comment

      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
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      @ethantaylor9613@ethantaylor96137 ай бұрын
  • I think Reid's argument falls down in this instance though, as you're a whole different character. You're not the same personality that commit those actions, as you're actually a different soul per death in the lore. Though the fact his original incarnation caused these multiple personalities to exist and cause harm, does play into it. I also find the fact people remember the 'person' or 'body' who did it as something to feel guilty of too, as that's real to them that you did it.

    @ganjaericco@ganjaericco11 ай бұрын
  • quality content as per usual

    @wheatpuncher27@wheatpuncher272 жыл бұрын
  • Holy shit that bookshelf lookin good. Those are some wild books

    @jmgallo7434@jmgallo74342 жыл бұрын
    • I was surprised by the juxtaposition of "Communist Seething" and a copy of "Atlas Shrugged" on the shelf.

      @hoi-polloi1863@hoi-polloi18636 ай бұрын
  • I was wearing a black shirt the day before yesterday with black pants, a leather belt and black shoes.

    @Kong20012@Kong20012 Жыл бұрын
  • Cat boi sent me. Glad he did because you are great. Keep up the lovely stuff.

    @therandomdickhead5744@therandomdickhead57442 жыл бұрын
  • If you like this game I really recommend checking out Age of Decadence. It's really excellent.

    @redeoghan@redeoghan3 жыл бұрын
  • man thanks for giving me info thay i can update my journal with Jokes aside, excellent video and dope shirt

    @its_nat_I_guess@its_nat_I_guess6 ай бұрын
  • in the same way that the seed will only grow and will only get shaped if you believe it will, the same way that believing you are adam will spawn another entity called adam, the same way the believe will shape the planes, so too is believe that can change the nature of a man do you believe you are responsible? do you believe you can do something about it? do you believe that you should? and i believe planescape is an absolutely fantastic game. chris avellone never misses

    @zennim125@zennim125Ай бұрын
  • quality content

    @SonKaneOf@SonKaneOf3 жыл бұрын
  • "the thing you're thinking of right now" Me, who's on my first jar of coffee: "Boobies"

    @backupnoname@backupnoname6 ай бұрын
  • Damn vice city goin crazy

    @jackpart4843@jackpart48433 жыл бұрын
  • i don't understand your point ? what is the answer of your stated question in the beginning ?

    @m0rphBrain@m0rphBrain4 ай бұрын
  • This guy looks really cute wtf

    @NarsMcain@NarsMcain2 жыл бұрын
    • Shit is it a dude

      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
  • Nice graphics. Also u are exactly how I thought u look

    @skylordthe1st@skylordthe1st3 жыл бұрын
  • Ultimately the Truth of the matter is that nobody is to be held TRULY accountable for anything, because nobody is actually separately detached and in control of reality's ongoings. Reality is free and cannot be controlled by anything separate to it, because there is no such thing as separation... There is only an infinite whole, consciousness. And THAT is out of question or debate. If you fail to understand this, you are ignorant and ultimately wrong. It is the ultimate Truth, absolute, of existence. You can't even argue this point with the conversation of "eternal skepticism" between Dak'kon and TNO, where TNO clarifies to Dak'kon that keeping asking questions about existence is necessary to understand its nature, as you could always be deluded or ignorant of certain aspects of it. Because ultimately, your essence is existence itself, and as such, there comes a point where you realise what eternity is, hence questioning is no longer even necessary, every subsequent answers, would be only details concerning superfluos features of yourself. I didn't want to mention the word "God" because that would make people even more confused. But of course, you are God. That's obvious and self evident. People need to read more Carl Jung and study eastern philosophies like Zen and Buddhism, because, as pretentious and unbelievable as it may sound, there are ACTUALLY people in the world who know what the nature of reality is, and in a sense everything already knows its nature. But it is complicated to decypher what i am actually saying if you are not knowledgeable on the subject.

    @torment4723@torment47239 ай бұрын
  • Interesting

    @hmmokay.4807@hmmokay.48072 жыл бұрын
  • I thought it was going to start playing th yu gi oh theme.

    @thegreatjohnjohnson4016@thegreatjohnjohnson40163 жыл бұрын
  • bruh takes philosophy of sex , love , and death once and forgets about the transcendental unity of apperception

    @nicknack191@nicknack1913 жыл бұрын
  • I know you don't recommend this game, but do you recommend this book?

    @IronMoose95@IronMoose953 жыл бұрын
  • I only know the color of shirt I was wearing two days ago is red because all of my work shirts are red.

    @dard1515@dard15153 жыл бұрын
    • Sup redshirt

      @AC-hj9tv@AC-hj9tv7 ай бұрын
    • SAD

      @Alfonse-dm6ht@Alfonse-dm6ht7 ай бұрын
  • That VA though sounds like he’s Canadian

    @terriblepersontv7666@terriblepersontv76663 жыл бұрын
  • Black. ...Because I wore the same shirt for three days.

    @jchart@jchart3 жыл бұрын
  • just when i thought you couldn’t get any cooler you wear a hanl t-shirt

    @lilcoti3829@lilcoti382911 ай бұрын
  • That's what I chose, all those years ago. Not 'belief'. I chose 'regret'.

    @RenzorTheRed@RenzorTheRed Жыл бұрын
  • Joke's on you, I've been wearing the same shirt for the past 4 days

    @mohamedghoubantini5725@mohamedghoubantini57252 жыл бұрын
  • didn't end up finding a gavel eh?

    @yukow0w601@yukow0w6013 жыл бұрын
  • Black t-shirt and a vest

    @SerbianSpark19@SerbianSpark19 Жыл бұрын
  • If you like Planescape you should try out Torment: Tides of Numenera; its an isometric rpg meant to be a spiritual successor to Planescape, set in the weird and wonderful Numenera universe. It has a lot of the same sorts of appeals, very dialogue focused and it presents you with a lot of intersting and fun ideas (and lots of themes of Identity)

    @junodoesworldbuilding2956@junodoesworldbuilding29566 ай бұрын
  • Hah, jokes on you, I only own black shirts.

    @DarkNocturnia@DarkNocturnia Жыл бұрын
  • PAY TAXES

    @theeternal2734@theeternal2734 Жыл бұрын
  • I dunno about “harder to get into than classic Fallout” 😅 I feel like that’s putting way too much faith in the Fallout name alone. Whereas sure Planescape is weird… and it’s ALOT of reading, but everything that’s weird about it makes sense in context (apart from some truly bullshit moments of: “OK, I legitimately had no in-game way of knowing that. wtf.”) But honestly, I’d say if you’ve just played another Obsidian RPG or Torment: Tides of Numenera, a lot about Planescape will feel intuitive. More so than some of the pure jank in classic Fallout. Plus, philosophically it’s a very relevant game in today’s world of identity politics. Identity isn’t something that should stand still, and I think we experience this ourselves when we encounter people who drag us back into a version of ourselves that we don’t identify with anymore, or like. People have the right and ability to change, and it’s great that the game lets you embrace that. And while there may be an argument for saying that a person is “stronger” for sticking to themselves even though the world tries to change them, I acknowledge that appeal. But maybe I’m just a natural “Sensate” and if you really don’t believe that your experiences shape, define and change you, I’m going to imagine that you’ve probably either been quite sheltered your whole life, or you just don’t get out much because you’re afraid of change. 😅 That’s my grotesque, sweeping generalisation of today.

    @Nikelaos_Khristianos@Nikelaos_Khristianos2 ай бұрын
  • egg

    @charlienoderer5764@charlienoderer57647 күн бұрын
  • Best storyline ever made of gaming.

    @solaris4019@solaris401911 ай бұрын
  • i luv u plz hav my babies

    @MrWide-ht9rp@MrWide-ht9rp3 жыл бұрын
    • No yuo

      @ramblelime@ramblelime3 жыл бұрын
  • Wait your a communist

    @thescotslair@thescotslair3 жыл бұрын
  • imagine being communist the don't

    @Balgias@Balgias3 жыл бұрын
    • Oh no, the psychedelics are kicking in, oh god, oh shit!!!!

      @greensimpson3209@greensimpson32093 жыл бұрын
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