How the culture wars engulfed society by the man who coined the term
2024 ж. 19 Мам.
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“To deny there is a culture war is in fact an act in the culture war.”
James Davison Hunter, the sociologist credited with coining the term culture wars, tells Stig Abell how technology “inflames” cultural conflicts because they “free people form accountability”.
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Well, that's an incredibly important interview. Nice job, nice take. Thanks.
Very interesting conversation, thank you.
We win the war by not fighting and just focusing on ensuring everyone has the basics
Algorithms might not have authors but they have managers, directors, producers, and analysts. People author their own algorithm and put a target on their own brain.
Very thoughtful and thought provoking, thank you. I'm glad you mentioned the corrosive power of the algorithm. I would underscore your point about "some people making a living off it" by adding that in my opinion it is the devastating combo of [the algorithm] + [the profitability of selling hate] which has now brought us so low and to the brink of true horror. While he didn't quite invent the art of hate-salesmanship in America, Rush Limbaugh certainly helped elevate that endeavor and show the way for ever-more insidious souls like Murdoch and Ailes to build on and accelerate the great wrecking ball of grief which he helped get rolling. I do suspect that the coming bloodshed which is likely to accompany the 2024 election, either way, will offer us an opportunity to collectively reflect on the problem of getting our greediest and seediest corporations OUT of the business of steering their audiences towards society-killing levels of hatred as an acceptable way to make a buck.
“Hate journalism” is a lot older than you think. Read about the Hébertists (also known as ‘the exaggerators”) during the French Revolution. it’s also worth reading about the Gordon Riots (and “King Mob”) in England in 1780. They put the January 6th protests in context. It’s often been said that, in a debate, you should be able to represent and summarise your opponent’s opinion in a way which they would recognise. I don’t always live up to that. But I try.
Correction: Otto von Bismarck, by James Davison Hunter's own admission was the one who coined the phrase "culture war" to describe the fierce religious divisions in Germany during the 19th century. Divisions within America stem from the fact that the nation is itself based on a fragmentary culture with links to Britain, but whose origins stood opposed to the imposition of an imperial ethos with its set of mores and norms tied to the monarchy.
Erm no, it was an active policy. Kulturkampf was an all out war of propoganda between the new imperial government led by Protestants against the Catholic church whose response was directed from the Vatican.
Exactly what I remember, I studied European history while at university and saw many historical places while traveling Europe in the last century, I would love to go back and, among other things walk through the Brandenburg gate. When last in Berlin there was barbed wire and machine guns keeping us capitalist out of the workers paradise.
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The culture war in Western societies these days is because of diversity.
The ignorance of our corporate media class no longer surprises me that much, especially when it comes to history.
Respect and tolerance are both in very short supply, but desperately needed. Some people(s) refuse that their children are even exposed to those concepts. Very disconcerting.
The start of the culture wars correlates with everyone becoming mesmerized by neo-liberal economics. At that point fiscal policy became almost politically irrelevant.
We have taken to irreconcilable difference in our minds, which turn our bodies against one another
The West was laughing(not sympathize) at China's culture war in the 60s, now the west is experiencing similar culture war problems. For the sake of the common people, let us hope that it does not turn into violence.
Lovely conversation. You leave want away more, please come back.
Every 16 year old in the west should see this interview. Then see it again every 10 years.
Thanks Rupert
Studies show that political activists are, when compared to the general population, less likely to be able to understand arguments put forward by their political rivals. This obviously leads to a distrust of motives. Because if you can't understand why someone holds a view in opposition to your own, you're more likely to believe its simply down to malevolent intent. So the answer is, the less input from political activists on any particular subject, the better.
Hamza Yusef is a man who accused his child's nursery of racism, despite it being run by a person of south Asian heritage, he gave the toxic "white" speech. He constantly stoked the culture war. In the end he had to resign, not because he was tired from culture wars, but because he was incompetent. Really poor analysis!
The only way to win is not to play.
That is what they want want and attitudes like yours are why they are winning.
why doesn't the press look at results, why should anyone have good faith without them??
‘Culture Wars’? Wasn’t that term first coined by Bismarck? (but in German)
the German term is Kulturkampf, which means 'Culture Fight' or 'Culture Struggle', so to call it 'Culture War' is rather a deviation (slight but significant) from the original concept - because this is a sort of combat conducted by civil methods rather than a military confrontation; a conflict occurring between opposing ideological persuasions within a civic context, not a battle of armed forces (which latter can also be described as a Kampf but then it's not a Kulturkampf but a real Krieg i.e. War). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf and it appears that the phrase 'Kulturkampf' was actually coined not by Bismarck but by Rudolf Virchow: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Virchow
Is our social discourse now regarded as entertainment? Like Jerry Springer? 🤔
Wait what? Humza Yousaf is THE caricature of the culture war. White!
Let's stop caring about what people think and worrying only about what they do. I don't need you to think like me. I just need you not to hit me.
"you're saying left Vs right is dead?" He said with some surprise. Yeah. Dead and buried. Zombie philosophies.
Yes...good faith conversation in which we safely assume good intent is lacking. Btw, Hitler's goon squad engaged in a culture Kampf. He did not coin the term.
The interviewer said Badenoch was angry in his previous interview. She was not, she simply pushed back to his narrative.
I like it how horn-helmet guy has become the symbol of the culture wars
It's a disgrace that he's not still locked up.
He’s very sensitive, you know, and his mother has to be very careful what she gives him because of his allergies.
@@TheLucanicLord imagine how many countries there are around the world where taking part in an insurrection would lead to you hanging from a rope. And this guy got a few months in prison. And the US is the most powerful nation in the world by far. So forcibly taking control of it and corrupting its democracy should be taken even more seriously than in smaller, less powerful countries
@@TheLucanicLord For what by the way? Being escorted in to the congressional chamber by a team of police & praying for everyone there?
In the mean time governments and business don't understand how the factor "trust" works in traffic for example. Zelf driving cars are for this reason a bad idea!
For the Republican clown show "third rate" is very generous.
Trust is destroyed by diversity.
You can't just scream 'culture war' as soon as you find someone who disagrees with you on something. I don't think I'd want to live in a society that didn't have conflict when it came to issues like abortion.
Insightful conversation however we have finally seen the hypocrisy of the united states/eu policy and their double standards. International rules based order..........I die of laughter every time I hear that term,
Disagreement over culture will always happen but, for me, culture war means something distinct from the normal dynamics. It means deliberate amplification and populism of social issues to distract from economic issues. This is most easily seen in US politics, which is owned by the corporations, especially over healthcare. As the Democrat party have adopted the previous Republican healthcare policy, the Republicans have no healthcare policy, other than to shout 'socialism'. As the corporate lobbyists write economic policy, there's little to discuss other than social issues. How to get elected despite being a corporate lackey like the other corporate lackey? Explode minor social disagreements into culture war.
It doesn't help when we have privileged entitled uniformed children who think they have the right or experience to tell the world where its gone wrong.
Interview starts with a discussion on economics, labor v capital, etc and ends up bogged down in nonsense like gender identity just like irl 🙄
You disliked, but were incapable of countering, the particular point that Kemi Badenoch was making yesterday, so you tried to dismiss it by raising "Cultures War". She called out your phoney dismissive accusation as a diversionary tactic made you look a fool. As you couldn't really deny that was what you were doing in its particulars you bring out your big gun from across the pond, to pontificate in general terms. Another diversion. You seem to think any amount of intellectual dishonesty is worth the prize of getting men into women's spaces, and boys into girls' spaces. Why?
Kemi Badenoch, the only person ever to negotiate a free trade deal with a US state. Other people are dissuaded by the fact that international trade is a federal matter, but not her.
@@TheLucanicLord Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Get you, high horse princess.
How prevalent is this problem? How often are grown men found in girl bathrooms? The issue is when the right has nothing of merit to discuss they find petty issues to complain about. The United States is a center left nation Why is the hard right crying about a nation that they don’t understand?