I can never get over how that key art for Lost World has Sonic's eyes misaligned. How does something like that even happen?
A few things I once again didn't mention in the video.
As you can see a few times in the gameplay, the multi-homing attack in this game has some issues. It keeps the lock on an enemy long after they go off screen and get far away. So you try to attack one thing, and then fly back. Pretty annoying, but not game ruining.
They brought the elemental shields back. No abilities, but still cool. They work well with the elemental wisp effects and hazards.
This game is also less padded out than the main game. They ditched collecting animals in this. Which is good. Now it's just a game that you get to play.
There are extra acts you can unlock by getting all the red rings in a zone. They're remixed levels focused on wisps. Kinda cool, and a great reward for red rings. If I actually wanted to collect them.
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"Has some good stuff but some annoying stuff" is the most common criticism in all of Sonic that applies to almost every Sonic game there is.
Yeah, but it's Sonic Lost World for 3DS, it's different
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Wait for the Zavok character analysis to drop
Zavok was always good.
Special stages on a 3ds are insane, when you're trying to turn sonic but your body doesn't bend a certain way because you've already twisted yourself in ways you never thought you could, makes your heart race. For real.
I had to walk into the laundry room where nobody was so I could stand & turn around to my hearts content. Ngl the stages were actually a lot easier & kinda fun. Otherwise I HATED them.
its quite cool tbh reminds me of the game face raiders
Not to mention, RIP anyone recording their 3DS gameplay for any reason. You can't do that wirelessly so you either risk damaging the cable, damaging the hardware mods, or failing to play the stages.
I did it around my friends in the school library, taking turns flailing around and it was hysterical
"I'm pretty sure 0% people on planet Earth care about this game" Ok, then what planet am I on, exactly?
Mobius..... duh
The Lost Hex
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Lost World 3DS is so underrated It's leagues beyond Lost World Wii U ironically, it's not the greatest 3D Sonic game, but I think it's good
The camera on those 2D sections is sad because the actual gameplay and design of them looks SO MUCH better than the 2D of the console version, it _actually looks like a typical 2D Sonic game!_ Sonic's not agonizingly slow like on console, he's much faster, and actually looks like he plays like some sort of Sonic game (you almost can't tell it's a Run Button game), the level design looks like Sonic level design, it's got the flow and the skips and all that, just now with the parkour as well which just adds even more to the gameplay and helping maintain your flow. It just looks like a 2D Sonic game with a parkour mechanic, which looks fun, sometimes it even looks a bit reminiscent of Rush here and there. But they decided to zoom the freaking camera in so much that you can't see crap and it ends up greatly harming the whole experience, I wonder just how much a camera zoom out mod would do to improve them.
The Camera zoom in 2d just like the gimmick stages feel like they happened as executive order from above for parity with the console version. I ones even heard that Lost Worlds WiiU was suppose to have more stage but was rushed by the end. If that is true could I image that some of Lost worlds 3ds more bloated stages are this way because they manged to get more stages finished but to keep parity with the WiiU did they have to have the same number of stages as WiiU and as such were a few finished staged glued together to make them 1 longer stage (kind of an inverse of Colors Wii). If any of this is true do I wonder how good lost World 3ds could have been if Dimps could have done what they wanted to do and weren't tied down to keeping parity with Sonic Team's efforts.
@@rynobehnke8289 Thing is though, the 2D sections in the console version aren't even that zoomed in. Sometimes they can be quite zoomed out even, there's a lot more variance on Wii U with the 2D camera.
@@legoboy7107 I guess. Tho its worth remembering that Dimps perhaps wasn't always informed about all changes done to Lost World WiiU during development so I can totally see that Lost Worlds WiiU was originally planed to always have a highly zoomed in Camera and Dimps only had to work off that on the design document Sega gave them.
Highkey, wonder how many sonic games would be straight-up improved by more screen real estate in general. I'd say the advance games (particularly 2 and 3 (particularly particularly 2, good lord)) are a good example
I grew up playing this game as a kid, I used to love it so much, i had like 50+ hrs in it and i somehow was able to look past all the crap, i had a wii u but i only ever played this version (till 2021 atleast) but looking back on it, this version has a good first world and then quickly nose dives. This game 100% handles parkour better tho, they actually use the parkour mechanic well and they make it have a reason to exist
You should try working with Super Sonic (though probably though a pre completed save given your struggle with getting the gyro to work), it can practically skip much of the slog many of the stages, even if some don't benefit, plus the game gives you the ability to make and item that straight up gives you 50 Rings to instantly go super at the start of every stage
I've never played this game before, so I'm looking at the gameplay and oh my god you can do slope jumps in this game. Crazy I know.
You know slope jumps were very much a thing in the wii u game right? Some levels had shortcuts and skips only accessable through spope jumping
Finally, the review that I have been waiting for 😅. Shame that Dimps will never come back to the sonic series again.
I think the infamy from the 3DS special stages comes from the fact that it made quite a few people ill while playing them. No other Sonic Special Stage can claim that.
I don't know some of those pseudo 3d ones can be pretty had on the eye. I found them rather easy. To me does it just feel like people hating on motion controls again entirely because they are motion controls and just want to not having to move anything but there fingers while playing a video game.
I think it comes down to the constant spinning you have to do on these stages. Obviously this varies from person to person but If someone is very vulnerable to motion sickness then they are at high risk of getting sick. Best solution to this would have been to give the option to turn off the gyro controls.
@@scottcampbell3735 I guess people that quickly get motion sick would have an issue. I can only go off my own experience and it gave me little issue (in general is the gyroscope in the 3ds pretty reliable)
You probably won't see this, and I'm not "defending" the game but... the stages where you have to kill enemies, or push fruits.. if you come back with the wisps unlocked you can skip/do it quicker and that's why I like the wisps here even more than Colors, they don't feel like a win button, you really need to play after activating it (except for laser but it's only in 2d levels which are just platforming anyways xD)
Okay I just watched a speedrun that's about an hour and a quarter long, and I gotta say, this game is sick. It doesn't even have any crazy movement tech, it's just that the flow and some of the skips you can do are really satisfying. A fair number of the "kill these enemies" and a few other slow and annoying things you experienced can either be skipped or done in a minute or so. The longest level in the run was just over 4 minutes (and it wasn't even the snowball pushing level). "Casual" lost world 3ds may be mid, but optimized lost world 3ds is really good and I hope you give time attack another shot
"I dont have that much to say" bro you still make 20min video
I read this comment right as he said it 😂😂😂
for me this game was pretty fun and ironically enough this game reintroduced me to sonic
No Fuzzy Pacman? 0/10
me when no fuzzy pacman: 😾😾😾
No paccy fuzman?
@@unofficial906 No Manny Pacfuzz?
Ah lost world 3DS a game that legit falls apart after the first 2 zones despite having a decent start.
one thing i think is neat about this game is the material system. it gives an incentive to replay levels without being overly intrusive like HD lost world, and crafting shields and those RC things to bring into levels with you is pretty cool (it kind of giving tails a role in gameplay is nice too). cant say i really used it that much but i wouldn't mind something similar coming back one day.
0:09 I do! I really liked this game, played it aaaa loooot when it came out, and the online versus was really fun, too!
This is pretty much what I expected, glad to hear your time wasn't worse than the console version overall.
Seeing this level design, it reminds me a lot of Sonic Dream Teams levels.
another great video good crtitiques much love bro keep up the good work
I replayed it today and it's pretty fun!
Just gonna drop a quick comment before i let the video play when this game came out it had a pretty sick online race mode which was very fun to race against others other than that thats it
I also agreed 3ds is better but then again I don't really like either I mean it is lost world
If puzzles like this were in a Knuckles game, it would make more sense.
Ngl really feel this one is under rated. I kinda liked it
2:24 smash 64 has competition
Can we just skip to mania, I want the “Sonic Was Always Good” title to be accurate again
Mania is next though.
@@cellperfecto421it will not have the Boom Games?
It's accurate this time
@@Gyomax9744 Oh, I forgot about those lol
@@Gyomax9744 Nope, he ain't covering boom
Out of all the 3ds games im really interested on youre thoughts on sonic boom fire and ice Yes im serious
Some of these puzzle stages might make people want the Werehog instead.
I know you wanted to make it quick but would have been nice if you at least would have mentioned the Tails workplace mechanic were Tails can make items to be used in the stages for Sonic. Especially getting a 50 rings item when having all Chaos Emeralds is fun as it allows you to fight the final boss as Super Sonic something only possible via bug abuse in the console version. I know that Dimps games seemingly got worse going towards the end of there releases but it does often feel to me like that wasn't entirely there fault. Like Lost World feels like it was dragged down to have parity with the console version on many places, Sonic 4 episode 1 at least was rushed as it was just mend to be a small mobile project and was out of the blue upgraded to Sonic 4 status without a noteworthy budged increase while at the same time the team was working on Colors DS and Generations 3ds. And Generations 3d is more than obviously rushed it self having to reuse old level design near 1 for 1(not even just the classic stages ether) I presume building that games engine which is all new eat quite hard into the games dev time were as Sonic Team was just building on top of Unleashed. Like of cause will there output get worse when Sega makes them do 3 projects at ones while setting ridiculously short deadlines and in some cases demand altering the scope of some games after development has already started,
Those special stages were back-breaking and shoulder-stiffening. What you said about moving your controller is exactly what we had to do with the 3DS, but standing up and turning around and tilting everywhere. Definitely the worst special stages.
Finally someone who judges Dimps fairly for their contribution to the franchise, as if a single game (that wasn't even meant to be a mainline one) was enough to tarnish their reputation forever. I really don't understand why Sonic fans treat them that way, they sound like overly perfectionist parents yelling at their kid for bringing a 99 out of 100 at home rather than a 120 out of 100.
I bought this the night it came out and played the shit out of it. This is my favorite version too, even though so many people say it's worse. I agree with pretty much everything you said, positive and negative.
This game is weird. Its highs are higher than the HD version, but its lows are so much lower. And I can confirm the special stages are awful on a real 3DS. The seventh one physically hurt me when I first played it years ago.
Lost World 3DS is the one I prefer. After getting use to the levels, most of them are really fun to go through, especially with Super Sonic. 4-1 is my favorite level
This day is coming.
This game probably does 3D Super Sonic the best
i wonder if mania is next.
would love to see you cover the kingdom hearts games. They seem like your cup of tea.
LETS GOOOOOO I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE
The 3DS Gyroscope literally barred me from playing the Special Stages and no other Special Stage in Sonic has ever done that
this is one of the best looking 3ds games atleast
Sonic Lost World 3DS was the version I played first. I thought it was fine at first, but then when I got to the second Zone, I could see the problems right away. But it's like you said though; it's both better and worse than Wii U/PC Lost World. I do also find this one a tad better, but just a tad. Also if you play this on an actual 3DS, you may change your mind about the special stages. Yes, the stages themselves aren't really the problem. It's the controls.
Well, that's Lost World out of the way. I doubt he will make Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric video or other Sonic Boom games so next up is Sonic Mania after Mania we are left with Forces, Frontiers, and Superstars.
Honestly tho you you are right for the most part I gotta say tho you should of tried it with super sonic also I kinda disagree with the puzzle stages being bad because there are ways to make them faster even with base sonic for example in frozen factory act 3 there's literally a way to reach the top where the switches are without even doing the intended section and also in the dessert ruins act 3 it is possible to skip that entire section
i'm pretty sure you didn't mention how sonic doesn't uncurl when double jumping in this, compared to the wiiu and pc versions LOL
I'm gonna be honest, the special stages took me a while to figure out, but once I did, it was pretty fun for me, although I guess the reward did have an influence on that, haha
Quite literally clicked on this video because I enjoy LW3DS😅😅 I think it does a better job of staying consistent versus the Wii U version
The speed stages (Act 1's) and even 2D levels (normally Act 2's) and even the Bosses are better than the Wii U version. The puzzle and combat levels (normally Act 3's) are some of the worst stages in the franchise. Your statement at the beginning where you said this game is both better and worse is bang on and something I've said myself.
0:08 except Garrulous64
Also try out the extra stages too they are fun like tropical coast extra there are literally level skips and also try out frozen factory act extra where its possible to do a wispless run btw I play this game alot
Wait, I plqyed this recently, i dton remember extra levels
Also I wish this game had modding support like the hd version and the reason is I wouldn't mind seeing an emerald coast mod for this game or heck port every sa2/SA1 stage because I think it would fit well
As someone who likes the hd sonic lost world I did like the way this game plays but I dropped the game after the desert ruins level with the boulders and switches, for me I can connect my phone as a second monitor and use a phone controller connector to emulate what it feels like to play it on a 3ds
With this being the first portable 3d sonic i played the crap out of it. Even got all S ranks even in hard mode. I got issues with it fs but it's awesome 😊
When there's no stupid fruit to push around it really looks to me like a dimps boost sonic game in 3D. You can definitely tell they had people who actually worked on sonic level design utilizing part of that experience for the better levels in the game, instead of just having a constant stream of random nothingness like the Wii U version. Even what little good was left of Dimps was squandered by the all time low lack of confidence for sonic gameplay in the franchise, having instead to shove into their game a bunch of non-sonic crap the higher-ups think they can "appeal to the masses" with.
I actually completed Lost World on 3DS, unlike the Wii U version which I didn't bother to get far in cause it was dull. The combat and puzzle levels certainly drag this game down because the speed/platforming in this game was really fun! Miles better that console Lost World. It felt cool. A game with good highs but also really bad lows. The Special Stages were fun. And Super Sonic is fun to use in this game and his model doesn't screw up like the Wii U version.
I really think the 3DS version have a level design way better than the Wii U/PC version.
Did indeed spin around like a jackass
Ok, i haven't watched much of the vid yet, but if you didn't know, if you have the yellow homing thing and I think the red also and press X or Y in the air, sonic can stun the badnik and you can easily kill the chicken enemy or the electric green enemy. Usually works off of springs though, I don't remember as of right now
And three yellow homing things on one badnik increases the damage you do. I know you don't care, just wanted to point it out (sorry if I'm being annoying)
and you knew about it. Im not deleting these comments though, I'm so excited you finally covered this game!
I agree with everything u had to say in the video the level design is pretty decent i'd say (when its good because when its bad its bad.) However I found the controls in this game particularly when jumping to be horrifingly unplayable though. Edit: i actually booted up the game and played some more levels and the control actuallu isnt as bad as i remember pretty fun actually
9:07 Pariah, these are actually not "apples," but it is a common mistake for fans of the series. They are called "Coins."
Surprised how you didnt mention how bad the bounce attack is in this game, WAAYY too slow. I agree with everything you said here, which is probably the 1st time that happned (usually i agree with 80% of your points) and i would like to mention that the reason why people hate the special stages in this game is that it causes arm pain on the 3ds. Good video : )
ah the version I had when I was little unfortunately
I gotta say this game probably has my favorite playable in standard gameplay super sonic with how much he breaks this game wide open especially in the 2d stages. If only the special stages werent ass.
I used to hope Lost World would get a sequel more like the 3DS version
The gyroscope special stages made me nauseous, so definitely think it was way worse than Heroes. But maybe it wouldn't be so bad on an emulator.
I was just about to eat. Great timing
Wha u eating
@@burgergud2804 ravioli
@@Fewix_ Lost World is so desperately trying to be a Mario game it started affecting things outside the game
When i first played this i didn't enjoy it but after replaying the level i didn't like the 2d levels but really enjoyed the 3d level except the casino one ( i don't like the casino levels in sonic) and i really like the spacial stages probably because i had a 3ds i say my favorite stage is frozen factory act 3 i got under 3 minutes no wisps
As someone who does like Wii U Lost World, Lost World 3DS to me is actively one of the worst Sonic games. I agree, some of the control and levels are better than the Wii U version… but I would say most of it is far worse. I vehemently DESPISE all of those puzzle levels and the 2D stages. Lost World 3DS’s zoomed in camera for 2D stages is actually worse here for me than other Sonic games that have this problem because you can just press a button and be at max speed. You somehow have even less visibility than the Rush games, and that baffles me. And on top of all this, there is just much less depth to the movement in the 3DS version in comparison to the Wii U version. It works better at a basic level, but it’s so dumbed down for me who has mastered the Wii U version that I just can’t have as much fun even in stages that are better designed.
The biggest problems with the Special Stages are that the game don't offer you a option to play with the conventional controls and the fact that DIMPS designed the special stages to be REALLY DEMANDING (specially in the last few stages) The last special stages can seriously give you motion sickness, i remember one time that i even stopped playing cuz the Really fast 180s and 90s turns where making me sick! DIMPS should have made it less demanding or have conventional controls instead.
This version feels less monotonous to look at than the main version. I like that there's actual 3D parts with turnable cameras. It makes me sad that modern 3D Sonic games don't have as smooth movement though.
RIP dimps 😢
The special stages arnt that bad to me as I did it like 4 times as I restarted my save on like 3 different DS-s, first experience was weird as I was on my knees as I didn’t want to stand(I did it for super sonic as I really wanted to play around with it in levels)
Is fine version for the 3DS
I hope you'll change your mind and we'll get sonic boom angry review eventually... At least it would be entertaining.
OF COURSE YOURE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPECIAL STAGES CUS YOUR EMULATING THE GAME AND DONT HAVE TO GET UP AND MOVE YOUR WHOLE BODY
What is that camera in 2d levels? Is there a contractual agreement that Sonic needs to take up a certain amount of the screen?
Sonic mania and sonic forces are next
I don't think so. He stremed sonic boom rise of lyric few days back, he will probably make a review of that game as well.
@@DLGanimatorHe will not be covering the Boom games. Also after Mania will most likely Superstars because he mentioned that he wants to compare both classic games.
@@DLGanimator late to respond,but i thought he would skip sonic boom? Isn't that what he said in his stream
I care
I will never stop saying this game has the best 3D Sonic controls ever. If only the level design wasn't what it was... We could get some killer romhacks if people care enough
It's closer to a Sonic game than the Wii U version, which isn't saying much
i care very much about this game, pariah
Since you're skipping Sonic Boom for the Sonic was always good series, please do a video on Sonic Runners. It was a 2015 mobile game developed by Sonic Team and Cyberconnect, and it was the best game that Sonic had until the release of Mania in 2017.
I was hoping you'd play the game on original hardware so you can experience the special stages as god intended
I couldn't make a video if I did lol.
*Satan intended
I didn't even know there was a Lost World 3DS until today.
At this point, Pariah should title these videos “Sonic WAS always good”. /j
This dimps last sonic game sometimes i wonder why can't they make 3d sonic games at least?
Maybe, ironically, it's the 3DS version of its near-universally loathed main that belongs in the "Was Always Good" series.
I've only played this version. Saw the more Sonic level design & the minor experimentation & went "alr this might not be so bad". Got to the sand zone(I don't even remember the name) & I jus had to fuckin drop it there & idk if I could ever come back it sucked so fuckin much for me. Genuinely 1 of the WORST experiences I've had wit sonic all my life. There R other Sonic games I hate but was able to get through most of those, THIS!? Oh my fuckin god!
Sonic Lost World for the 3DS
Man, the Special Stages in Lost World 3DS are the WORST in the entire series
His eyes arent straight
Better gameplay, worse level design. As a staunch defender of Lost World, this game is permanently on my 3DS Sorry
I feel like if a home console Sonic game had level design like the 3D speed parts of this game people would be gassing it up big time. That’s part of why I somewhat like this game, like a solid 6/10, whereas Wii U is just ass
The one thing that I hate about this game the most is ironically the controls, even after so many years, this game plays like shit! And fuck the special stages they're harder than anything else sonic team could throw at you and the last three are insane with the strict time limit and bending up and down a dozen times. But I do really enjoy this version and it's slightly better with emulation.
The wii u version has a steam port tho
@mrpiccionedivino5598 It's much better too because you don't have to use the wii u screen, and there's mods that also bring back the two missing dlc.
The only thing that bothers me about this game is the fact that beating hard mode gives nothing. Other than that, game’s fun, game’s fluid, don’t like the combat since it lacks the depth of Heroes or the dumb fun Shadow. 9/10 Edit: The special stages are really fun and Super Sonic is busted as all get out.
I am the 0 people who care about this game
I honestly don’t think I could put into words how much I despised this game. Honestly one of the worst experiences I’ve had playing a sonic game ever. And it’s not like I was new to sonic games when I first played this either. Seriously just F this game.
I think this game should’ve been a 3ds only game and they should’ve put all the resources into this version It just feels appropriate on the system