Star Trek The Next Generation Season 4 Redemption Part I
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The Worf-centric episodes involving Klingon politics, including this Redemption arc, are among my favorites.
@shinigami1462 жыл бұрын
Yea those are pretty good
@ohjoymuffins3912 жыл бұрын
I love the Klingons.
@deliagroer26132 жыл бұрын
@@deliagroer2613 i can only imagine klingons together with barbaric humans what a intresting dialog they would have.
@Terlin14662 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Jgriffin08080812 жыл бұрын
I've been watching those episodes on Netflix over the last few weeks. I agree with you, those episodes are among the better ones of the series.
@WittyUsernamehere Жыл бұрын
'Your discommendation is a facade to protect less honourable men. It is a lie. Lies must be challenged'. This is just as applicable today.
@shawnmckenzie86992 жыл бұрын
Qapla'!
@NoahSpurrier2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that. We are in perilous times. No time warp. Just written by a 92 yr old who does not like what is happening
@beatricescroggin34062 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@johngoyer2 жыл бұрын
Like Donald Trump and his lies.
@NH1969GOAT2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, challenging lies these days gets you put on lists, or denied intrinsic services and even speech, in the name of "well it's a private company". The sentiment is valid, but the reality however, far bleaker.
@FlameG1022 жыл бұрын
Good old crazy eyes Gowron.
@ray74192 жыл бұрын
That's why we love him: Those eyes.
@krane152 жыл бұрын
Best quote ever, "It is a lie, and lies must be challenged!"
@Deafmachine235 ай бұрын
“Their poison has corrupted the empire, as have their incredible breasts! “ - Gawron
@jamessullivan43912 жыл бұрын
True statement!!
@u17755 ай бұрын
"Look into my eyes, my big bulging eyes, you know it to be true!"
@Etherealsighting3 ай бұрын
I would think that the Klingon High Command would at least send (at least) one ship to escort the Enterprise. As an "honor guard" if nothing else.
@jackgibsxxx07502 ай бұрын
Well he's not wrong. Especially the 2nd half. 😜😜😜🍼🍼🍼🩻🩻🩻
@jackgibsxxx07502 ай бұрын
Oops. I posted 15 seconds in and forgot about that ship.
@jackgibsxxx07502 ай бұрын
Part of being an actor is being able to move smoothly during a scene, even when the action might not seem realistic. At 2:30, after Gowron has delivered his important news, and the camera tracks into a closeup of Picard's reaction, you can see Jonathan Frakes slowly rotate his body and move away from Stewart as the camera moves in, giving Stewart the frame and letting the lights fall onto his head so things are properly lit at the end of the camera move. Very smooth, Commander.
@doteaters2 жыл бұрын
True, but when you combine his body movements with his facial expression, then someone who didn't hear the dialogue might have thought that Gowron just accused Picard of doing something repulsive to a child :D
@CzechMirco2 жыл бұрын
@@CzechMirco Contextually it makes sense, since Picard is the neutral arbiter of succession to the Klingon empire. A Klingon civil war could and would be directly tied to him and Starfleet. Hence, Riker's dramatic denouement to Picard.
@doteaters2 жыл бұрын
I think the director has something to do with that by letting Frakes know they are going on for the shot.
@wellesradio5 ай бұрын
@@wellesradio For sure, but it's still the actor who has to make the moves natural looking at the right times.
@doteaters5 ай бұрын
He was actually moving to get a better look at a hot new ensign off camera
@jello_cudgel92134 ай бұрын
Gowron was a much more interesting character than I remember. Here, he and Picard have a mutual respect and work together. And in DS9, Sisko essentially orders Worf to kill him.
@organs2 жыл бұрын
Tackle the wind
@hectorvalle10312 жыл бұрын
@ሃየኡህ የኡጣሃኳሃ They already painted him as a politician who will steamroll over anyone who gets in his way or threatens his power. Seemed very consistent to me that he was worried of losing prestige over Martok's successful campaigns.
@oldtwinsna83472 жыл бұрын
Gowron only used Klingon honor for political gain, and the moment he was given direct control over the Klingon Empire, there was nowhere to go, and he lost his way
@bendover98132 жыл бұрын
At least his character is alive and well in Star trek online
@Spector-yj5hk2 жыл бұрын
@@Spector-yj5hk "alive" if you count psuedo Klingon spirit realms
@thepropagandastudiosbrigs09272 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten how freaking awesome this show was!
@lawrencejohnson32592 жыл бұрын
Ahh, there are 4 big reasons i support the Duras sisters.
@TheTransporter0074 ай бұрын
Get some new glasses...
@KH4444444444N3 ай бұрын
Big mammaries
@davidgriffiths7696Ай бұрын
These theatrics of Gowron never end. Now I have to go watch that episode.
@krane152 жыл бұрын
*eyes
@nerdock47474 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Indeed, this was an episode of quality! We shall have blood wine and sing of it's glory! 🤭👍
@samsung32542 жыл бұрын
Little did he know Worf would kill him in a few years. But that's the Klingon way.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
It's funny how after that for around 2 minutes Worf was a leader of The Klingon Empire 😆
@WujekFuАй бұрын
Gowron's ship's name is "Revenge" or "Vengence". Appropriate under the circumstances since that's what Worf is after.
@marcusalexander70882 жыл бұрын
Aren't most Klingon ships named that.
@ElTejon479012 жыл бұрын
@@ElTejon47901 No. Koloth's Ship in Tribbles was the Gr'oth (translation, if any, unknown) and Riker served on IKS Pagh, to name two.
@marcusalexander70882 жыл бұрын
@@marcusalexander7088 Joke, dude
@ElTejon479012 жыл бұрын
@@ElTejon47901 Mmmmk.
@marcusalexander70882 жыл бұрын
@@marcusalexander7088 which I allways found a bit curious, since that ship would then be named the IKS 'Nothing'.
@jojannehopmans36292 жыл бұрын
Klingon Law was what (in part) doomed Gowron later on.
@darkcoeficient2 жыл бұрын
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE ANSWER TO THAT
@asagoldsmith33282 жыл бұрын
HEAR ME!
@SantomPh8 ай бұрын
Gowron already had his crazy eyes.
@CathrineMacNiel2 жыл бұрын
Graves Disease
@raymondweaver85262 жыл бұрын
Sanpaku eyes.
@williamroberts57162 жыл бұрын
Based on Barney's theory, he must be insanely Hot! At least from a Klingon pov.
@nyk2000m2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love a Klingon Bird of Prey a Vor Cha class vessel is pretty awesome too.
@U2QuoZepplin4 ай бұрын
A good look at genuine Star Trek.
@1aikane4 ай бұрын
Gowron says that women cannot serve on the council but he is the one who offered a place on the council to K'Ehleyr
@gatovillano70094 ай бұрын
And yet fierce fiery warriors on the KDF and leaders of Klingon households so why not the council?
@Velossian1Ай бұрын
Not even scene between sisko and worf can match this conversation between picard and worf.
@mrizwan75662 жыл бұрын
Gowron: Women may not serve on the council Azetbour: Say what?
@Trek001 Жыл бұрын
There can be special dispensation granted, but in this situation none was apparent that would hold to Klingon law. Hence Gowron ruling that out.
@oldtwinsna83475 ай бұрын
Picard get all the tough assignments 😂😂😂
@tubenachos2 жыл бұрын
The Duras sisters end up destroying the Enterprise D
@hamtramckchronicles2 жыл бұрын
And subsequently themselves in the process.
@krane152 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the video, some DS9 would be appreciated 😊
@tazchanday24222 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. Sure thing.
@April-dv2pb2 жыл бұрын
Great episode
@demarcusfaulkner74112 жыл бұрын
Another, great scene you have edited/posted. Thank you.. I think you really appreciate what STTNG, truly meant to Sci-Fi. ☮
@McRocket2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I do.
@April-dv2pb2 жыл бұрын
@@April-dv2pb ☮
@McRocket2 жыл бұрын
Gowron is a bad ass, tho I like Martok better, I didn't like Gowron becoming a flaming political idiot.
@soldierski16692 жыл бұрын
Gowron is way more theatrical than Martok.
@krane152 жыл бұрын
I mean, he was always an incompetent idiot from the start Kind of the point of this scene is he is running to Picard to help him to secure his place because he is too weak as a leader to do it himself.
@knightshousegames2 жыл бұрын
@@knightshousegames It wasn't that he was weak in TNG, it was that the council was mostly corrupt. It hits home later this episode when Worf tells Gowron the truth and Gowron's reaction is being horrified that the entire council knew the truth behind Worf's discommendation.
@seandlax92 жыл бұрын
@@seandlax9 But the thing is, Gowron isn't honorable either, he was just slightly less bad than the Duras. I think the entire point is how sad it was for the Klingon Empire that Gowron was the best guy they had. He was a weak, divisive opportunist who just wanted power without any actual leadership skills of his own. Gowron not knowing about Worf's situation mostly just reinforces how out of touch he is, everyone but the guy in charge knew what was going on. Like looking at it from an outside perspective, K'mpec dying left a massive power vacuum, and neither the Duras or Gowron's factions had a lot of legitimate power, so both went to outside sources to back them up, The Duras to the Romulans, Gowron to the Federation. It basically turned that battle of succession into a proxy war between The Federation and The Romulans.
@knightshousegames2 жыл бұрын
@@knightshousegames Gowron was an outsider to a corrupt council with enough merit and leadership to be a leading challenger to the seat of Chancellor. Gowron also didn't initially go to the Feds. K'mpec did. Gowron goes to the Feds later since a massively powerful family being secretly backed by the Romulans is about to plunge the Empire into a civil war. As for Worf's situation, it was a state secret that K'mpec is no uncertain terms proclaims will remain secret and never be spoken of again.
@seandlax92 жыл бұрын
a fine episode
@martok6664 ай бұрын
Such a good episode.
@Brando501st2 жыл бұрын
The AI in their video chat is so good that it knows exactly when to zoom in on your face for dramatic effect.
@mbaxter222 жыл бұрын
Damn this is 1000 times better than 2 minutes of Discovery
@Archie2c2 жыл бұрын
That's because whoever preps the actors makes them understand what the stake the characters are after. Gowron is clearly both ambitious but also genuinely concerned for the welfare of the Empire. Picard here isn't interested in playing puppet to Gowron's power plays but at the same time knows what the Duras family represents to the balance of power in the quadrant given the history of allegiance to the Romulans the Duras family has. That context is in the backdrop to the acting you're getting from both men on the screen. The problem with Discovery and even Picard is that too often those on screen have no sense of their character's history or end game!
@victorpradha99462 жыл бұрын
Sigh... I’m so fricking tired of people feeling the need to prove their love of TNG by slagging off Discovery. Some of us can appreciate Discovery without having to compare it to anything. Here’s a thought, stop polluting the internet with your negativity ok? If you like a thing then great! Shout it to the heavens! But stop with all comparisons and negative crap thanks.
@fallofcamelot2 жыл бұрын
@@fallofcamelot I gave Disco the first Hour with great hopes which they pooped all over with the trash writing and Vulcans Shoot First. if you love it I'm glad you have those kinds of standards. But it's not Star Trek.
@Archie2c2 жыл бұрын
@@fallofcamelot agreed. Discovery is fun and I loved Picard (except for that last episode).
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
Wait. You admit that you have watched 2 minutes of that trash? I have not watched a single second of it. Just reviews. And they are enjoyable.
@dermagnus84822 жыл бұрын
I thought it was strange in DS9 how they turn Gowron into a predictable politician abusing his power for personal gain
@K-Effect2 жыл бұрын
All good things.=(
@Drpluv1872 жыл бұрын
I didn't much care for how they treated Kurn either.=(
@Drpluv1872 жыл бұрын
That's the thing, the old saying rings true, power corrupts. Once Gowron was Chancellor and his rivals had been put down, he fell into the same corruption and lust for power and personal gain that befell other Chancellors before him. Jadzia even asks Worf at one point if there was ever a Chancellor in his lifetime that he had respect for because the High Council was like this. And you see it happen in the real-world too. People getting into political power who at first seem to stand up for strong and noble ideals and want to work for the good of their nation but as time goes on, they become bureaucrats more interested in supporting the system that supports them.
@DrForrester872 жыл бұрын
Although it could have also been Ezri who asked him that. It's been a while since I've gone through DS9.
@DrForrester872 жыл бұрын
Don't most of our leaders start off with good intentions in mind? Power corrupts and the Gowron character is a perfect example of that.
@krane152 жыл бұрын
Rule of Acquisition #177 Know your enemies... but do business with them always. Gawron should have kept a closer eye on the Duras family.
@johnbarton19414 ай бұрын
Picard: I will not get involved in what could precipitate a Klingon Civil War, even if I’m technically already involved Sisko: I was involved in a plot to trick the Romulans into joining the Dominion War by paying a Cardassian who murdered a Romulan senator and made it seem like it was the Dominion who committed the murder
@YeoYeo322 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not on the record and never happened. ;)
@chrismaverick98285 ай бұрын
1:45 garak would gladly accept that challenge🙂
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat6 ай бұрын
These sub-titles are excellent.
@calanon5346 ай бұрын
The Sisters can sit on my High Council any day. May the ravishing Barbara March fight and dine well eternally in
@MandoMTL2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think the Duras sisters were revolting.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonheathen2092 You my friend lack sprit. The Duras sisters are glorious.
@Demobot12 жыл бұрын
Traitorous, dishonorable swine, not worthy of a name, relation or existence in the Great Klingon Empire. Better an airlock see their dishonor than besmirch a proud Klingon warrior to gain fame of killing lowly vermin.
@sigmasquadleader2 жыл бұрын
@@Demobot1 Fair enough. But I don't think they were very attractive. Good characters ? Yes. But sexy ? Nope.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonheathen2092 The right attitude and enough cleavage can make any woman attractive.
@Demobot12 жыл бұрын
The klingon empire may seem like little more than a space orc civilization but the intricacies of their race almost places them above my favorite race, the Romulans. Gotta love my space drow.
@MidKnightOTC3 ай бұрын
Are moving.
@thec4fourhundred5202 жыл бұрын
Worf needs to calm down and drink some prune juice.
@otiscarter13562 жыл бұрын
You accepted this doodie
@tumbles83502 жыл бұрын
Then Duras ensured Gowron got to be Chancellor!
@Continus2 жыл бұрын
"Your discommendation is a facade to protect less honorable men. It is a lie. Lies must be challenged." GAWD THE ACTING
@MatthewGagnon19802 ай бұрын
Picard honored Worf' s human upbringing. But, also embraced his human federation principles. We humans inspire to b better than we r.but, sometimes we have to bare our fangs and remind each other. That some attacks cannot go unchallenged. Worf was raised by humans. But, sometimes u gotta remind him. He is Klingon. And if it happen to us humans. We will fight back. Fight back Worf. 😠 We humans can b just like Klingons and have warrior principles like honor. 👊
@Castlecoke Жыл бұрын
Quark's take on humans that he spoke to Nog is very apt. To paraphrase: "Humans are kind, compassionate, loyal friends when their bellies are full and their beds are warm. Put those same humans into a tense situation with little food and constant stress and they become as vicious and dangerous as the most blood-thirsty Klingon." The original phrasing is more poetic but very very accurate.
@chrismaverick98285 ай бұрын
The Romulans make their second move. 1.F4 Bird's Opening, perhaps. Or 1.E4 King's Gambit, since they seek to topple or upset the Klingon hierarchy in favor for civil war.
@Nighthawke702 жыл бұрын
Gowron aka "Clit face"
@MeowMochi32 жыл бұрын
What episode was this?
@chrishanna5112 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how Picard begins the episode ready to march with Worf to the Klingon High Council Chambers and demand the reinstatement of Worf's family name and honour. But ends the episode by refusing to help the rightful leader of the Klingon Empire, an ally of the Federation, against the Romulan conspiring Duras rebels.
@rayzermaniac521818 күн бұрын
The Federation must be tired of babysitting Klingon Empire.
@mrwerewolfvampire6 ай бұрын
Fear and Fear is Power!!! 2020 Media be like hmmm Ok then!
@Acc0rd792 жыл бұрын
Robert O'Reilly ("Gowron") is the uncle of a family friend. She says he's a very nice and funny guy.
@PlasmaCoolantLeak5 ай бұрын
Klingon politic system is funny. Similar to vikings.
@miguelaprendizaje.29182 жыл бұрын
And Valhalla to similar to Klingon Sto-vo-kor.
@outdoorsguy2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the therm Old Norse.
@TheErilaz2 жыл бұрын
Vikings + Hamlet
@M0butu2 жыл бұрын
@@M0butu and a bit of ancient japan i guess.
@miguelaprendizaje.29182 жыл бұрын
I would think that the Klingon High Command would send (at least) one ship to escort the Enterprise. As an "honor guard" if nothing else.
@jackgibsxxx07502 ай бұрын
Oops. I posted 15 seconds into the clip. And forgot about that ship.
@jackgibsxxx07502 ай бұрын
when he says duras they might as well be in moria
@jonathangean272 жыл бұрын
…are moving against him…
@Great_America2 жыл бұрын
Picard gently saying "suit up, kick ass!"
@benjamintaylor393411 ай бұрын
The Duras Sisters were always making a boob of themselves.
@darthkek19532 жыл бұрын
I hope their chest armor was Durable
@kharilane13402 жыл бұрын
LOL nice the btor's comment to Dr Soren "I hope for your sake you were initiating a mating ritual" after he hits her in the face. How rude and they found Beverly repulsive....
@GaryPotocki822 жыл бұрын
Bucket list.. you all feel the same way, don't lie.
@soldierski16692 жыл бұрын
@@soldierski1669 I don't know about that. I like my intimate encounters to not include me visiting the ER. That being said, their milkshake does bring all the boys to the yard!!!
@kharilane13402 жыл бұрын
Oh geez this thread is hilarious!🤣
@h.cedric81572 жыл бұрын
Sisters.
@thec4fourhundred5202 жыл бұрын
Isn't it in the interest of The Federation for Gowron to accede to the leadership of the High Council rather than the Duras sisters?
@U2QuoZepplin2 жыл бұрын
Picard does not trust any Klingon of the Klingon Empire either - Hence the reason he was appointed the arbiter of succession. So he's holding his cards very close.
@mardus_ee2 жыл бұрын
I think it is just a headband but it always looks like the flight controller has little brown ears to me!
@danielyeshe2 жыл бұрын
O_O
@aMartianSpy3 ай бұрын
There was nothing Worf could have done, Gowron was a made guy, and he wasnt
@MagikarpBeast2 жыл бұрын
I like Gowron!
@crystalball63582 жыл бұрын
That should be "Sisters".
@VulcanOnWheels4 ай бұрын
"Duras died in disgrace"... why exactly? For losing in a battle to Worf? For killing Keyler?
@otakurocklee2 жыл бұрын
No, his dad was the traitor, not worf’s dad.
@thomastaylor96322 жыл бұрын
The disgrace and dishonor follows generations in Klingon society.
@KH4444444444N3 ай бұрын
Im confused....Did the Klingons get a new homeworld ? Or was their planet fixed.
@giantclam18222 ай бұрын
Gowron says no woman can sit on the counsel. But he promised worf's lover a seat on the counsel. So would he kill her after or?..
@lloydmauler2 жыл бұрын
That's the same thing I was going to say.
@demarcusfaulkner74112 жыл бұрын
I guess the writers screwed up there.
@jacksonheathen20922 жыл бұрын
Seat on the council versus sit on the counsel. Close but no cigar.
@dashcroft18922 жыл бұрын
exceptions can be made I guess
@stonem00132 жыл бұрын
He promised her a seat on his pencil.
@M0butu2 жыл бұрын
It would take you 2 seconds to fix the title of the video
@bbb42286 ай бұрын
I've never been sure... was Gowran a 'goodie' or a 'baddie'?
@secretmission76072 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@chrisbingley2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbingley Thanks for the clarification.
@secretmission76072 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbingley Thanks for the clarification.
@secretmission76072 жыл бұрын
He was Klingon
@louiscachet7681 Жыл бұрын
Typical politician... he started out with decent intentions, but power went to his head, making him think he could do no wrong.
@anonygent5 ай бұрын
"Are Move Against Him"?
@per-olamjomark74526 ай бұрын
Are move?
@death2all79zx4 ай бұрын
It's the Starbucks tactic. Misspelling something so people correct you, generating comments and traffic. He does it in everything he posts.
@HUNmerlinАй бұрын
Informs?
@mynamejeff7852 жыл бұрын
Gowron’s a big ole drama queen 👸🏽 🎭
@dalecomardelle2 жыл бұрын
Really? worrying about the future of an Empire that spans 1/5 of the galaxy and has a fleet of 10-20k ships? How dramatic would you be?
@KH4444444444N3 ай бұрын
if women arent allowed on the council then how did azetbur became chancellor in star trek 6? and in reunion gowron tried to bribe keyhler with a seat on the council so he is basically contradicting himself here
@peterburke3944 Жыл бұрын
Chancellor and holding a seat on the council are different things altogether.
@oldtwinsna83473 ай бұрын
And they made Worf a pacifist. As far as I'm concerned Star Trek Picard is not cannon.
@aronzimas5660 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with Worf becoming a warrior monk?
@leonrobinson81806 ай бұрын
*canon, but agreed.
@anonygent5 ай бұрын
Are move against him ?
@AerialLandscapes2 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@PR--un4ub2 жыл бұрын
The law has past from having women a the council after Azetbour because of the Federation alliance 😂😂😂
@hanshawks50884 ай бұрын
I are Englieh good speak title video KZhead.
@user-po3ry3xh6yАй бұрын
What Duras sisters are still good on?
@Columbariusify2 жыл бұрын
I think we all know the proper pronoun to answer with.
@SamiP-ik7vj2 жыл бұрын
@@SamiP-ik7vj I don't
@Columbariusify2 жыл бұрын
It's a good twist when the sisters bring out Duras' son later on.
@Strive1324L2 жыл бұрын
English please
@alphabasic175920 күн бұрын
"It is a lie, and lies must be challenged." *Donald Trump and his supporters have left the chat*
@viralheadquarters51592 жыл бұрын
It's an alternative fact, duh.
@PR--un4ub2 жыл бұрын
You mean Biden and his supportes and you have left the chat.
@dermagnus84822 жыл бұрын
@@dermagnus8482 look at what we got here. I caught a snowflake 😂 And Biden did leave somewhere. He left deleware to move into the Whitehouse so you were kinda right bahahaha
@viralheadquarters51592 жыл бұрын
@@viralheadquarters5159 You are in the idiotic snowflake faction. Lets go Brandon!
@dermagnus84822 жыл бұрын
@@dermagnus8482 sure thing snowflake 😂 Brilliant comeback btw. Basically, " not uh, you are!" Lmfao. If you Trumpers had brains....well, then you wouldn't be Trumpers. I can't wait to hear your next zinger. Hahaha
@viralheadquarters51592 жыл бұрын
Warf is so useless…
@RevolverOcelot792 жыл бұрын
isn't it sad in the end, worf kills Gowron with a batleth sticking out of this throat.
@cranbers2 жыл бұрын
What the f*** is wharf's room. So much better than everyone else?!?!? This seems like Klingon affirmative action
@matthewdeepblue5 ай бұрын
And so I snoop the internet for the episode so I can see the full thing. Stop posting clips, give me the full episodes.
@MoSteel22 жыл бұрын
Netflix
@CathrineMacNiel2 жыл бұрын
Beggars can't be choosers.
@snowdog032 жыл бұрын
Oh man good ole Irish O'reilly gowron was the Klingon christened Wild Eye's
The Worf-centric episodes involving Klingon politics, including this Redemption arc, are among my favorites.
Yea those are pretty good
I love the Klingons.
@@deliagroer2613 i can only imagine klingons together with barbaric humans what a intresting dialog they would have.
Same!
I've been watching those episodes on Netflix over the last few weeks. I agree with you, those episodes are among the better ones of the series.
'Your discommendation is a facade to protect less honourable men. It is a lie. Lies must be challenged'. This is just as applicable today.
Qapla'!
Amen to that. We are in perilous times. No time warp. Just written by a 92 yr old who does not like what is happening
I was thinking the same thing.
Like Donald Trump and his lies.
unfortunately, challenging lies these days gets you put on lists, or denied intrinsic services and even speech, in the name of "well it's a private company". The sentiment is valid, but the reality however, far bleaker.
Good old crazy eyes Gowron.
That's why we love him: Those eyes.
Best quote ever, "It is a lie, and lies must be challenged!"
“Their poison has corrupted the empire, as have their incredible breasts! “ - Gawron
True statement!!
"Look into my eyes, my big bulging eyes, you know it to be true!"
I would think that the Klingon High Command would at least send (at least) one ship to escort the Enterprise. As an "honor guard" if nothing else.
Well he's not wrong. Especially the 2nd half. 😜😜😜🍼🍼🍼🩻🩻🩻
Oops. I posted 15 seconds in and forgot about that ship.
Part of being an actor is being able to move smoothly during a scene, even when the action might not seem realistic. At 2:30, after Gowron has delivered his important news, and the camera tracks into a closeup of Picard's reaction, you can see Jonathan Frakes slowly rotate his body and move away from Stewart as the camera moves in, giving Stewart the frame and letting the lights fall onto his head so things are properly lit at the end of the camera move. Very smooth, Commander.
True, but when you combine his body movements with his facial expression, then someone who didn't hear the dialogue might have thought that Gowron just accused Picard of doing something repulsive to a child :D
@@CzechMirco Contextually it makes sense, since Picard is the neutral arbiter of succession to the Klingon empire. A Klingon civil war could and would be directly tied to him and Starfleet. Hence, Riker's dramatic denouement to Picard.
I think the director has something to do with that by letting Frakes know they are going on for the shot.
@@wellesradio For sure, but it's still the actor who has to make the moves natural looking at the right times.
He was actually moving to get a better look at a hot new ensign off camera
Gowron was a much more interesting character than I remember. Here, he and Picard have a mutual respect and work together. And in DS9, Sisko essentially orders Worf to kill him.
Tackle the wind
@ሃየኡህ የኡጣሃኳሃ They already painted him as a politician who will steamroll over anyone who gets in his way or threatens his power. Seemed very consistent to me that he was worried of losing prestige over Martok's successful campaigns.
Gowron only used Klingon honor for political gain, and the moment he was given direct control over the Klingon Empire, there was nowhere to go, and he lost his way
At least his character is alive and well in Star trek online
@@Spector-yj5hk "alive" if you count psuedo Klingon spirit realms
I had forgotten how freaking awesome this show was!
Ahh, there are 4 big reasons i support the Duras sisters.
Get some new glasses...
Big mammaries
These theatrics of Gowron never end. Now I have to go watch that episode.
*eyes
Thanks for sharing! Indeed, this was an episode of quality! We shall have blood wine and sing of it's glory! 🤭👍
Little did he know Worf would kill him in a few years. But that's the Klingon way.
It's funny how after that for around 2 minutes Worf was a leader of The Klingon Empire 😆
Gowron's ship's name is "Revenge" or "Vengence". Appropriate under the circumstances since that's what Worf is after.
Aren't most Klingon ships named that.
@@ElTejon47901 No. Koloth's Ship in Tribbles was the Gr'oth (translation, if any, unknown) and Riker served on IKS Pagh, to name two.
@@marcusalexander7088 Joke, dude
@@ElTejon47901 Mmmmk.
@@marcusalexander7088 which I allways found a bit curious, since that ship would then be named the IKS 'Nothing'.
Klingon Law was what (in part) doomed Gowron later on.
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE ANSWER TO THAT
HEAR ME!
Gowron already had his crazy eyes.
Graves Disease
Sanpaku eyes.
Based on Barney's theory, he must be insanely Hot! At least from a Klingon pov.
As much as I love a Klingon Bird of Prey a Vor Cha class vessel is pretty awesome too.
A good look at genuine Star Trek.
Gowron says that women cannot serve on the council but he is the one who offered a place on the council to K'Ehleyr
And yet fierce fiery warriors on the KDF and leaders of Klingon households so why not the council?
Not even scene between sisko and worf can match this conversation between picard and worf.
Gowron: Women may not serve on the council Azetbour: Say what?
There can be special dispensation granted, but in this situation none was apparent that would hold to Klingon law. Hence Gowron ruling that out.
Picard get all the tough assignments 😂😂😂
The Duras sisters end up destroying the Enterprise D
And subsequently themselves in the process.
Thanx for the video, some DS9 would be appreciated 😊
Your welcome. Sure thing.
Great episode
Another, great scene you have edited/posted. Thank you.. I think you really appreciate what STTNG, truly meant to Sci-Fi. ☮
Glad you enjoyed it. I do.
@@April-dv2pb ☮
Gowron is a bad ass, tho I like Martok better, I didn't like Gowron becoming a flaming political idiot.
Gowron is way more theatrical than Martok.
I mean, he was always an incompetent idiot from the start Kind of the point of this scene is he is running to Picard to help him to secure his place because he is too weak as a leader to do it himself.
@@knightshousegames It wasn't that he was weak in TNG, it was that the council was mostly corrupt. It hits home later this episode when Worf tells Gowron the truth and Gowron's reaction is being horrified that the entire council knew the truth behind Worf's discommendation.
@@seandlax9 But the thing is, Gowron isn't honorable either, he was just slightly less bad than the Duras. I think the entire point is how sad it was for the Klingon Empire that Gowron was the best guy they had. He was a weak, divisive opportunist who just wanted power without any actual leadership skills of his own. Gowron not knowing about Worf's situation mostly just reinforces how out of touch he is, everyone but the guy in charge knew what was going on. Like looking at it from an outside perspective, K'mpec dying left a massive power vacuum, and neither the Duras or Gowron's factions had a lot of legitimate power, so both went to outside sources to back them up, The Duras to the Romulans, Gowron to the Federation. It basically turned that battle of succession into a proxy war between The Federation and The Romulans.
@@knightshousegames Gowron was an outsider to a corrupt council with enough merit and leadership to be a leading challenger to the seat of Chancellor. Gowron also didn't initially go to the Feds. K'mpec did. Gowron goes to the Feds later since a massively powerful family being secretly backed by the Romulans is about to plunge the Empire into a civil war. As for Worf's situation, it was a state secret that K'mpec is no uncertain terms proclaims will remain secret and never be spoken of again.
a fine episode
Such a good episode.
The AI in their video chat is so good that it knows exactly when to zoom in on your face for dramatic effect.
Damn this is 1000 times better than 2 minutes of Discovery
That's because whoever preps the actors makes them understand what the stake the characters are after. Gowron is clearly both ambitious but also genuinely concerned for the welfare of the Empire. Picard here isn't interested in playing puppet to Gowron's power plays but at the same time knows what the Duras family represents to the balance of power in the quadrant given the history of allegiance to the Romulans the Duras family has. That context is in the backdrop to the acting you're getting from both men on the screen. The problem with Discovery and even Picard is that too often those on screen have no sense of their character's history or end game!
Sigh... I’m so fricking tired of people feeling the need to prove their love of TNG by slagging off Discovery. Some of us can appreciate Discovery without having to compare it to anything. Here’s a thought, stop polluting the internet with your negativity ok? If you like a thing then great! Shout it to the heavens! But stop with all comparisons and negative crap thanks.
@@fallofcamelot I gave Disco the first Hour with great hopes which they pooped all over with the trash writing and Vulcans Shoot First. if you love it I'm glad you have those kinds of standards. But it's not Star Trek.
@@fallofcamelot agreed. Discovery is fun and I loved Picard (except for that last episode).
Wait. You admit that you have watched 2 minutes of that trash? I have not watched a single second of it. Just reviews. And they are enjoyable.
I thought it was strange in DS9 how they turn Gowron into a predictable politician abusing his power for personal gain
All good things.=(
I didn't much care for how they treated Kurn either.=(
That's the thing, the old saying rings true, power corrupts. Once Gowron was Chancellor and his rivals had been put down, he fell into the same corruption and lust for power and personal gain that befell other Chancellors before him. Jadzia even asks Worf at one point if there was ever a Chancellor in his lifetime that he had respect for because the High Council was like this. And you see it happen in the real-world too. People getting into political power who at first seem to stand up for strong and noble ideals and want to work for the good of their nation but as time goes on, they become bureaucrats more interested in supporting the system that supports them.
Although it could have also been Ezri who asked him that. It's been a while since I've gone through DS9.
Don't most of our leaders start off with good intentions in mind? Power corrupts and the Gowron character is a perfect example of that.
Rule of Acquisition #177 Know your enemies... but do business with them always. Gawron should have kept a closer eye on the Duras family.
Picard: I will not get involved in what could precipitate a Klingon Civil War, even if I’m technically already involved Sisko: I was involved in a plot to trick the Romulans into joining the Dominion War by paying a Cardassian who murdered a Romulan senator and made it seem like it was the Dominion who committed the murder
Yeah, that's not on the record and never happened. ;)
1:45 garak would gladly accept that challenge🙂
These sub-titles are excellent.
The Sisters can sit on my High Council any day. May the ravishing Barbara March fight and dine well eternally in
Personally, I think the Duras sisters were revolting.
@@jacksonheathen2092 You my friend lack sprit. The Duras sisters are glorious.
Traitorous, dishonorable swine, not worthy of a name, relation or existence in the Great Klingon Empire. Better an airlock see their dishonor than besmirch a proud Klingon warrior to gain fame of killing lowly vermin.
@@Demobot1 Fair enough. But I don't think they were very attractive. Good characters ? Yes. But sexy ? Nope.
@@jacksonheathen2092 The right attitude and enough cleavage can make any woman attractive.
The klingon empire may seem like little more than a space orc civilization but the intricacies of their race almost places them above my favorite race, the Romulans. Gotta love my space drow.
Are moving.
Worf needs to calm down and drink some prune juice.
You accepted this doodie
Then Duras ensured Gowron got to be Chancellor!
"Your discommendation is a facade to protect less honorable men. It is a lie. Lies must be challenged." GAWD THE ACTING
Picard honored Worf' s human upbringing. But, also embraced his human federation principles. We humans inspire to b better than we r.but, sometimes we have to bare our fangs and remind each other. That some attacks cannot go unchallenged. Worf was raised by humans. But, sometimes u gotta remind him. He is Klingon. And if it happen to us humans. We will fight back. Fight back Worf. 😠 We humans can b just like Klingons and have warrior principles like honor. 👊
Quark's take on humans that he spoke to Nog is very apt. To paraphrase: "Humans are kind, compassionate, loyal friends when their bellies are full and their beds are warm. Put those same humans into a tense situation with little food and constant stress and they become as vicious and dangerous as the most blood-thirsty Klingon." The original phrasing is more poetic but very very accurate.
The Romulans make their second move. 1.F4 Bird's Opening, perhaps. Or 1.E4 King's Gambit, since they seek to topple or upset the Klingon hierarchy in favor for civil war.
Gowron aka "Clit face"
What episode was this?
I find it funny how Picard begins the episode ready to march with Worf to the Klingon High Council Chambers and demand the reinstatement of Worf's family name and honour. But ends the episode by refusing to help the rightful leader of the Klingon Empire, an ally of the Federation, against the Romulan conspiring Duras rebels.
The Federation must be tired of babysitting Klingon Empire.
Fear and Fear is Power!!! 2020 Media be like hmmm Ok then!
Robert O'Reilly ("Gowron") is the uncle of a family friend. She says he's a very nice and funny guy.
Klingon politic system is funny. Similar to vikings.
And Valhalla to similar to Klingon Sto-vo-kor.
I prefer the therm Old Norse.
Vikings + Hamlet
@@M0butu and a bit of ancient japan i guess.
I would think that the Klingon High Command would send (at least) one ship to escort the Enterprise. As an "honor guard" if nothing else.
Oops. I posted 15 seconds into the clip. And forgot about that ship.
when he says duras they might as well be in moria
…are moving against him…
Picard gently saying "suit up, kick ass!"
The Duras Sisters were always making a boob of themselves.
I hope their chest armor was Durable
LOL nice the btor's comment to Dr Soren "I hope for your sake you were initiating a mating ritual" after he hits her in the face. How rude and they found Beverly repulsive....
Bucket list.. you all feel the same way, don't lie.
@@soldierski1669 I don't know about that. I like my intimate encounters to not include me visiting the ER. That being said, their milkshake does bring all the boys to the yard!!!
Oh geez this thread is hilarious!🤣
Sisters.
Isn't it in the interest of The Federation for Gowron to accede to the leadership of the High Council rather than the Duras sisters?
Picard does not trust any Klingon of the Klingon Empire either - Hence the reason he was appointed the arbiter of succession. So he's holding his cards very close.
I think it is just a headband but it always looks like the flight controller has little brown ears to me!
O_O
There was nothing Worf could have done, Gowron was a made guy, and he wasnt
I like Gowron!
That should be "Sisters".
"Duras died in disgrace"... why exactly? For losing in a battle to Worf? For killing Keyler?
No, his dad was the traitor, not worf’s dad.
The disgrace and dishonor follows generations in Klingon society.
Im confused....Did the Klingons get a new homeworld ? Or was their planet fixed.
Gowron says no woman can sit on the counsel. But he promised worf's lover a seat on the counsel. So would he kill her after or?..
That's the same thing I was going to say.
I guess the writers screwed up there.
Seat on the council versus sit on the counsel. Close but no cigar.
exceptions can be made I guess
He promised her a seat on his pencil.
It would take you 2 seconds to fix the title of the video
I've never been sure... was Gowran a 'goodie' or a 'baddie'?
Yes.
@@chrisbingley Thanks for the clarification.
@@chrisbingley Thanks for the clarification.
He was Klingon
Typical politician... he started out with decent intentions, but power went to his head, making him think he could do no wrong.
"Are Move Against Him"?
Are move?
It's the Starbucks tactic. Misspelling something so people correct you, generating comments and traffic. He does it in everything he posts.
Informs?
Gowron’s a big ole drama queen 👸🏽 🎭
Really? worrying about the future of an Empire that spans 1/5 of the galaxy and has a fleet of 10-20k ships? How dramatic would you be?
if women arent allowed on the council then how did azetbur became chancellor in star trek 6? and in reunion gowron tried to bribe keyhler with a seat on the council so he is basically contradicting himself here
Chancellor and holding a seat on the council are different things altogether.
And they made Worf a pacifist. As far as I'm concerned Star Trek Picard is not cannon.
What's wrong with Worf becoming a warrior monk?
*canon, but agreed.
Are move against him ?
Correct.
The law has past from having women a the council after Azetbour because of the Federation alliance 😂😂😂
I are Englieh good speak title video KZhead.
What Duras sisters are still good on?
I think we all know the proper pronoun to answer with.
@@SamiP-ik7vj I don't
It's a good twist when the sisters bring out Duras' son later on.
English please
"It is a lie, and lies must be challenged." *Donald Trump and his supporters have left the chat*
It's an alternative fact, duh.
You mean Biden and his supportes and you have left the chat.
@@dermagnus8482 look at what we got here. I caught a snowflake 😂 And Biden did leave somewhere. He left deleware to move into the Whitehouse so you were kinda right bahahaha
@@viralheadquarters5159 You are in the idiotic snowflake faction. Lets go Brandon!
@@dermagnus8482 sure thing snowflake 😂 Brilliant comeback btw. Basically, " not uh, you are!" Lmfao. If you Trumpers had brains....well, then you wouldn't be Trumpers. I can't wait to hear your next zinger. Hahaha
Warf is so useless…
isn't it sad in the end, worf kills Gowron with a batleth sticking out of this throat.
What the f*** is wharf's room. So much better than everyone else?!?!? This seems like Klingon affirmative action
And so I snoop the internet for the episode so I can see the full thing. Stop posting clips, give me the full episodes.
Netflix
Beggars can't be choosers.
Oh man good ole Irish O'reilly gowron was the Klingon christened Wild Eye's