What’s The Best Bike For $1000? | GCN Tech Show 327

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How do you buy a bike for $1000? We discuss our top tips, picks and preferences. In Hot Tech we have a snazzy new helmet form Met, Alex's dream tool kit and a very scary-looking E-bike. You guessed it, it's time for another GCN Tech Show. This is one you won't want to miss!
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  • What would you look for in a $1000 bike? 💵🕵

    @gcntech@gcntechАй бұрын
    • high quality aluminum frame and good tires and i would expect everything else to be kinda basic and that is also how i would want it to be.

      @nebulous962@nebulous962Ай бұрын
    • First, discounted, be it previous year model or seasonal clearance sale. Second, local(-ish) - shipping and often import tax of which you are not aware untill the very last moment can equate to whole tier difference in groupset. Additionally, look at even cheaper options and keep in mind I will definetely would want to swap the wheels rather soon if not immediately.

      @feedbackzaloop@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
    • Recently bought a bike on 1500 budget. Decided to go new but wanted better components than claris or sora. Went with savadeck 105 with t800 carbon for 1400. Bought online with warranty. So far I'm very happy with it

      @tonythomas8435@tonythomas8435Ай бұрын
    • A decent aluminium frame, a full Shimano Sora or Tiagra groupset and a well-built and solid wheelset.

      @2001MBKBooster@2001MBKBoosterАй бұрын
    • Used, well taken care preferable sold via cycling forum. Bikes history, condition (try it before buying) and receipts are important e.g. how many previous owners, did they race with the bike etc. For the frame correct size is the most important maybe 2nd thing is the geometry, relaxed/endurance geometry is always better for beginners. Bought my first road bike using these principles around 1200€ - Cube Attain (carbon frame, disc brake ultegra setup 2×11 mechanic). Later on upgraded it with better fitting saddle, power meter pedals (new) and carbon wheelset (also used).

      @n-the-legend@n-the-legendАй бұрын
  • A word about bike shops (in Enland). My adult son snapped a shifter cable on his town bike, and took it to the big bike chain shop he bought it from to get it fixed. They quoted 100 quid for parts and labour. Total rip off. All the cable routing is external! He went down the road to a smaller local shop, which did the job for 15 quid - a fiver for the cable and a tenner for the work.

    @BrianRPaterson@BrianRPatersonАй бұрын
    • LBS FTW!!

      @aerobelly@aerobellyАй бұрын
    • See, this is why I do all my own maintenance. A new cable will probably set you back about £5. You might even get it cheaper if you looked on eBay or somewhere. £100 is extortion and they shouldn’t be allowed to charge that much.

      @PP-cm4re@PP-cm4re28 күн бұрын
    • There you go. External cable stuff isn't very complex. There's loads of tutorials on KZhead. Some are shite, some are good. Everyone can find one they can follow. Even I can do it using instruction. You only need a few tools. Once you have that knowledge, it provides a really good feeling. You know stuff.

      @lesflynn4455@lesflynn445527 күн бұрын
    • @@lesflynn4455 Spot on. And my kid knows how to do it. He just didn't have a spare cable at home to do the job, hence the visit to the bike shop to buy one. He was riding a Deliveroo shift and time is money, so he figured he'd ask what it would cost for the shop to fit the cable. 100 quid! No thanks. I have a bundle of cables in my spares box, so I'll be giving him a bunch to take home next time he visits. And, once he has spares, Murphy's law says he won't ever break a cable again!

      @BrianRPaterson@BrianRPaterson26 күн бұрын
    • @@PP-cm4re Agreed on all points. And I have plenty of spare cables, by my son didn't. He'd used up a jagwire kit building up another bike so he was out of luck. 100 quid is extortion. Especially since he'd bought the bike for 400 quid (discounted from 600) at the same shop.

      @BrianRPaterson@BrianRPaterson26 күн бұрын
  • "That is horrific... should we buy one?" 😂

    @MrPharmageek@MrPharmageekАй бұрын
  • For a new rider, I would recommend buying their first bike from a proper bike store. This way, you will not have to spend any money right away on maintenance and consumerable components. Plus, many if not most bike stores will also throw a few servicings for free. For a new rider, having to spend hundreds more, right after splashing out on a used bike, might put them off riding. If I had a budget of £1,000 for a new bike, I'd look for a quality rim brake frame sporting a Shimano Sora or Tiagra groupset. I might have some money left over for my pedals and other accessories.

    @2001MBKBooster@2001MBKBoosterАй бұрын
    • That's a really great point! Getting some tips and help from your local shop can be a great starting point for many new riders 🙌 Having a friendly face to take the bike back to can go a long way!

      @gcntech@gcntechАй бұрын
    • Well said, my sentiments exactly. Experienced riders can maximize their dollars in the used marketplace because they are familiar with the bikes and maintenance and parts and upgrades. Plus, as with Alex, there is a delight in finding an old bike which was a teen dream, like that Trek in Postal colors. And it really is breathtaking how much bikes have changed. The other day I pretty much read cover-to-cover an excellent maintenance manual with fantastic cut-away graphics from 2017, not that long ago. Yet, it was all rim-brake road bikes on its pages, with disc-brake mountain bikes, of course. And there was a mention that some road bikes come with discs, but only a mention, not like it would be today, all-disc with maybe a chapter on rim road bikes.

      @robbchastain3036@robbchastain3036Ай бұрын
    • "Consumerable"? Who's he when he's at home?

      @whatwelearned@whatwelearnedАй бұрын
    • I did that.fantastic

      @chrism5433@chrism543328 күн бұрын
    • I agree. Buying used can potentially get you a better deal, but only if you know what to look for. As a new rider, it’s best to play it safe and buy brand new. There are some really good entry level bikes out there.

      @PP-cm4re@PP-cm4re28 күн бұрын
  • A caution on older and rim brake bikes…tire size may be limited so that you may miss out on some comfort or potentially rolling resistance

    @josephkozachek848@josephkozachek848Ай бұрын
    • 23 and 25 mm are just fine

      @tasteit9719@tasteit9719Ай бұрын
    • Still using rim brakes in 2024? 🤦‍♀

      @kalijasin@kalijasinАй бұрын
    • @@kalijasin Will use rim brakes also in 2054.

      @tasteit9719@tasteit9719Ай бұрын
    • ​@kalijasin nothing wrong with rim brakes. Don't be a gatekeeper.

      @padmanabhaprasannasimha5385@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385Ай бұрын
    • @@kalijasinlots of people do. Good rim brakes are better than cheap mechanical discs in most cases. Disc comes into its own mid range upwards, but cheap discs are heavy junk.

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
  • 1. Don’t ignore a previous year’s bike. There are some good deals out there. 2. Bias selection towards the frame. Opens door for gear upgrades when group set etc. wears out. 3. Avoid carbon wheels and rim brakes. 4. Don’t get hung up on group sets. The efficiency delta is very, very low even though subjective aspects like feel might be there. 5. If you get a killer deal on sale, consider a tire upgrade right away. 6. Win on tune. Keeping a bike clean, chain lubed, brakes adjusted, tires properly inflated and indexing perfect costs nothing for a DIY. All these things save watts and can make the difference between a slow fast bike and a fast slow bike.

    @paulgrimshaw8334@paulgrimshaw8334Ай бұрын
    • Nailed it

      @MohsniLegend@MohsniLegendАй бұрын
    • Smart!

      @stuartfreedman6854@stuartfreedman6854Ай бұрын
  • For £1000 u can get a second-hand full carbon frame, hydraulic disc brakes, shimano 105, or ultegra group set in good condition bicycle

    @mindaugasmartisius5382@mindaugasmartisius5382Ай бұрын
    • What brands should people be looking for?

      @gcntech@gcntechАй бұрын
    • I picked up my Ribble r872 for £600, full carbon / 105 / hydraulic disc brakes... the bike was a year old and ridden a handful of times. The same bike can still be bought new for £2k albeit now its 12 speed not my 11 speed. Spent the other £400 on a helmet / shoes / pedals / kit. @@gcntech

      @mgb311@mgb311Ай бұрын
    • Send the link lol

      @garciaandres12@garciaandres1212 күн бұрын
  • During Covid time I spent about $1000 to buy a secondhand carbon bike with a 10 speed 105 mechanical group set, unused carbon wheels and tyres, rimbrake pads therefor. It’s an old setup, but I’m totally satisfied with the purchase. Since this bike is from a minor brand (Masi) and no longer available in my country, I feel rather special!

    @user-nt8dy4xw9r@user-nt8dy4xw9rАй бұрын
  • [Ollie's impassioned defense ends] "It's a 'nice' for me" 🤣

    @NoahStephens@NoahStephensАй бұрын
  • Triban 520 has 105 with hybrid hydraulic cable operated disc brake £900

    @DaveM890@DaveM890Ай бұрын
    • It has half a 105 groupset , dreadful prowheel BB and cranks , TRP brakes which are not too bad, an unbranded or sub-brand cassette and chain . Only the levers and derailleurs are 105. It's also 799 though .

      @lexobarge@lexobargeАй бұрын
    • @@lexobargestill very good. I got the 500 full sora (not chain and cassette), mechanical brakes for 700€. The bike is impressive at that price; I only need new wheels and tires to be happy with; maybe hybrid brakes…

      @carlito1777@carlito1777Ай бұрын
    • Got a link?

      @kalijasin@kalijasinАй бұрын
    • Is the 105 the di 2 version? Are the wheels double-walled aluminum 700C? is the frame thick walled aluminum? Are the front forks carbon?

      @kalijasin@kalijasinАй бұрын
    • @@kalijasin it is the 11 speed mechanical 105 with mechanical actuated hydraulic disc brakes. The wheels are bad, worth upgrading even with a mavic aksium. It is carbon fork. I don’t know about your questions on the frame. Mine is the same with sora and mechanical brakes. The frame is very good and simple in a good way for maintenance for exemple. I love it, I will put new wheels and tires, and probably a sram axs 1x in the long run.

      @carlito1777@carlito1777Ай бұрын
  • These days, what isn’t too expensive? 😢 Food, fuel, electricity, oxygen, sunlight,etc,etc.

    @calebjackson2631@calebjackson2631Ай бұрын
  • Get the E-moped and challenge it to destruction! Just make sure you charge it well outside the walls of GCN towers! 😳🔥

    @DavidMartin-tk4fs@DavidMartin-tk4fsАй бұрын
  • Slight correction in your Sales Tax calculation, yes UK sales tax is 20% however it is not a straight 8<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="20">0:20</a> of the ticket price shown. The calculation is actually (pre-tax price) + 20% = Sales price ie. an item selling for £1200 is £1000 pre tax + £200 tax So in the case of £1000 bike would be +/- £833 pre tax + £167 tax😉

    @19diego82cinttocs@19diego82cinttocsАй бұрын
    • Yeah, they need to divide by 1.2 to remove vat, and multiply by 1.2 to add vat!

      @danabc322@danabc32229 күн бұрын
  • With all this content on budget-friendly bikes lately, I'd love to see GCN do a comparison test between different levels of the same product line. The Giant online shop currently has these new bikes available for order: 2022 TCR Advanced Disc 2 Pro Compact - $1950 (Sale price) - Shimano 105 mechanical 2025 TCR Advanced 2 PC - $3,200 - Shimano 105 mechanical 2025 TCR Advanced SL 0 DA - $12,500 - Shimano Dura Ace Di2 First I'd like to see if a 2025 with 105 is appreciably faster that a 2022 model with 105. Then I'd compare the 2025 trim levels. Is the Dura Ace Di2 version significantly faster than the 105 version? Fast enough to justify costly 4 times as much as the 105 version?

    @vipergtsrgt1@vipergtsrgt1Ай бұрын
  • For a total newbie to cycling going new for a $1K makes more sense than used. As a newbie wouldn't nesscerally know a good value bike vs a crap one.

    @1969Rake@1969Rake29 күн бұрын
  • there was also way to much plant matter between the paving stones to supernice ollies bike photo. just saying ( still a bit peeved for the rating of my peugot in ep.262 ;) thx for the videos!

    @teckendrums@teckendrumsАй бұрын
  • I started cycling last year and my budget was 1k. I went 2nd hand and bought a 18 month old full carbon TCR/105 /discs and love it you get so much more value than buying new.

    @fraserthomson349@fraserthomson349Ай бұрын
  • The change in the price of bikes is astounding. I bought my bike from Decathlon in 2016/17. It is steel frame, carbon forks, 105 groupset and rim brakes and it cost all of £650. It is essentially the exact same spec as your £1000 bikes now.

    @alistaircassidy@alistaircassidy22 күн бұрын
  • Cross Oli when his bike vault picture was mocked, properly made me chuckle. Thanks for that, you lovely people.

    @Jayneflakes@JayneflakesАй бұрын
  • Id still go for disc, you got an addition option if you want to go gravel. Decathlon has good deals. And also aliexpress

    @noobcyclist1017@noobcyclist1017Ай бұрын
    • Disc are pretty great aren't they?

      @gcntech@gcntechАй бұрын
    • @@gcntech pretty much, looks cool, has stronger braking, less expensive on the long run (New wheels vs new rotors). What more can you ask. 🔥🔥🔥

      @noobcyclist1017@noobcyclist1017Ай бұрын
    • @@gcntech cane creek and few others make high-end rim brakes but for what they cost you can get hydraulic disc brakes so why bother?

      @kalijasin@kalijasinАй бұрын
    • @@gcntechdepends how cheap they are. Would you describe the eurobike disc brakes as good?

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
  • Just bought a new bike from AlterCycles, Reflex 500. Al frame w/ Carbon fork, Tiagra 2 x 10, hyd disc brakes, and 38mm tires. It is flat bar bike and the price had been marked down to $1100. Now I am just waiting for the weather to cooperate. But in my heart I agree with you guys that there are great deals in used bikes. But since I already own 6 older bikes, I thought that a new one might be fun.

    @edb8120@edb8120Ай бұрын
  • Now ollie knows how it feels if he give our bikes a nice and is nit picking every little detail about a picture. 😂

    @MarsuCooper@MarsuCooperАй бұрын
  • As someone fortunate enough to live in the UK with a reasonably decent wage then the money saved on cycle scheme with the large saving and interest free payments this gives, makes me lean much more towards new bikes. Every used bike I buy I end up spending a lot of money getting it to the point I'm totally happy with it.

    @jamesbarber6375@jamesbarber6375Ай бұрын
    • Same, I saved quite a bit on my Vitus.

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
  • Shopping for rim brake is great advice. And alloy brake tracks with solid calipers have all the power you could need. Shop used while bike industry is in turmoil. I just bought a lightly used 2021 rim brake TCR with 105 for $700. After swapping in my ultegra group and my own lighter wheels it weighs 16.4 lbs.

    @osborn.creative@osborn.creative27 күн бұрын
  • "do you want to see my helmet" lol 😅😂

    @benjaminplant3734@benjaminplant3734Ай бұрын
  • My parents used to buy always new cars being afraid of buying something with hidden malfunctions or a post-crash vehicle. I inherited this approach from them and it translates to bikes for me too.

    @sherab2078@sherab2078Ай бұрын
    • That's a good approach to have because it's true that lots of used stuff has had something happen that made the owner want to sell it. I've done this myself with frames and wheels on ebay. I found that if I could hide the defects I could get more out of it. I know, shame on me for that but it's happened to me with used stuff I've purchased so. Nobody is really up front and telling the truth about the true condition.

      @charlesmansplaining@charlesmansplainingАй бұрын
    • The problem is that depreciation on a new car vastly outstrips any potential repairs on a 5 year old one, so it’s more expensive

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
    • @@charlesmansplainingI think a lot of people don’t realise how bad their stuff actually is. The majority of commuter bikes I see are in horrible condition

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
    • ​@@PhilOsGarage, That's a good point, of course. I don't mean to claim my approach is necessarily reasonable. This is more like a psychological effect.

      @sherab2078@sherab2078Ай бұрын
    • @@sherab2078 I buy cars that are 2-3 years old. You save all the money from the depreciation, but the only reason it’s been sold is that people get rid before the first MoT and buy another new one.

      @rob-c.@rob-c.Ай бұрын
  • My first road bike was an alloy rim brake 105. Solid as a rock and just about right on $1000.

    @ryuujinusa@ryuujinusaАй бұрын
  • I'm glad to see the Marvel 50V show up in this video, I just received my 60V and set them up tubeless yesterday. I'm just waiting for a couple days of rain to clear the salt of the asphalt before my maiden ride

    @peterfranzjr.1190@peterfranzjr.1190Ай бұрын
  • Im a sucker for the wavey design on wheels and Ive ordered a set of the Drive Helix D's. Also, they are a 60t ratchet system so they are going to be some rudebois in a group ride.

    @suhdud4646@suhdud4646Ай бұрын
  • I picked up a Look 675 light with ultegra di2 and Zipp wheels and absolutely love it. Weight about 7.4kg, some aero nods and super comfortable. Much better than a 105 equipped new alloy bike that will be 1-2kg heavier, less aero, no electronic shifting and less cool looking

    @andrejh.3179@andrejh.3179Ай бұрын
    • For $1000? 😮

      @kalijasin@kalijasinАй бұрын
    • @@kalijasin £1000

      @andrejh.3179@andrejh.3179Ай бұрын
    • That’s nuts. Good for you!

      @billeterk@billeterkАй бұрын
    • I have a Look 695 RS with mechanical ultegra and kyseriums gp5000 rim brake 7.6kg 2017 bought it for £1095 off cycle exchange london great bike.

      @JSC131@JSC13129 күн бұрын
  • Suggestion for a €1000 do-it-all bike: Cube Nuroad FE. Fully Equipped for commuting gravel bike: dynamo, mounted front and back light, stand, mudguards, minimalist bike rack for panniers, carbon fork, mech. disk, tiagra group and 40mm schwalbe g-one tires. Bit heavy, true, but has everything you need if you're on a budget and can only have one practical yet sporty bike .

    @Trancefreakeh@TrancefreakehАй бұрын
  • Picked up a used caad 12 with hydraulic 105 11 speed for about a 1000. A few years old, but few kms. Spent another 1000 on used lighter wheels, 38cm bars, carbon seat post, carbon seat, and gp 5000 30mm tyres + tubolito tubes to get the weight down to 8kg. It's not quite as nice as my more expensive race bike, but not far off. Great alu frame. Super happy

    @CarlBaravelli@CarlBaravelliАй бұрын
  • Ollie's Pinarello, NICE! It's missing a second bottle cage.

    @dakalla@dakallaАй бұрын
    • 🤣

      @carlostavizon4338@carlostavizon4338Ай бұрын
  • for normal use, rim brake bikes are totally fine for most of situation. And I quite like the judgement on Ollie's new bike 😅

    @Sutlore007@Sutlore007Ай бұрын
  • Love the value bike talk! It's really important to grow the sport. Personally, I'd take a hydraulic (or cable hydraulic) disc brake bike with Tiagra over a rim brake 105, but I came from MTBs, so I haven't trusted rim brakes since the early 2000s. But if you go used you can get it all!

    @jaydicenso@jaydicensoАй бұрын
  • I started off with an $800 used bike (Cannondale CAAD7), and then spent a few years slowly gathering parts for a separate custom race bike build. Wouldn't have even attempted the process for the race bike build (or even stayed in the sport at all) had it not been for the entry level bike that got me hooked in the first place.

    @bpfastfeet25@bpfastfeet25Ай бұрын
  • I tend to think you •can• get more for your money on the used market but that’s •if• the seller is realistic about their asking price. I’ve seen way too many bikes being offered at delusional asking prices, particularly bikes that were bought during the peak of the pandemic when new prices were out of control. They understandably want to not lose their ass on the sale but when you’re selling a used bike that’s barely under what I can get at retail, I’d just rather pay a little more and have a warranty.

    @StayZero556@StayZero556Ай бұрын
  • Canyon Endurace 7 Al Rim brake has been phenomenal. Full 105, under 8.5kg and able to take 28mm tyres 🎉

    @EdwardHarrisYeah@EdwardHarrisYeahАй бұрын
    • Perfect £1000 bike!

      @gcntech@gcntechАй бұрын
    • 1299 Euros plus shipping. No thanks. Rose Pro is a sweeter deal on a near identical build.

      @feedbackzaloop@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
    • @@feedbackzaloop I wasn’t saying it was compulsory sweet pea 😂

      @EdwardHarrisYeah@EdwardHarrisYeahАй бұрын
    • @@EdwardHarrisYeah yeah, sorry. Was rather going to point it out to the GCN crew. But it's definetely a very nice frameset with plenty of upgrade potential

      @feedbackzaloop@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
    • Just curious, at a push, do you think your bike would take 30mm tires?

      @Lander76@Lander76Ай бұрын
  • I had a Mongoose Supergoose with an unpadded saddle. I had completely forgotten about that. Thanks for that memory. 😁😁😁😁😁😁

    @michaellynch1132@michaellynch113220 күн бұрын
  • Boardman slr 8.9 is a shout. Full carbon frame and forks. 105 derailleurs. Cheap enough to upgrade chainset and brake calipers

    @ChunkusMaximus01@ChunkusMaximus0121 күн бұрын
  • So I chose a Trek Al2 as my first road bike for returning to the hobby after too many years. Over time I simply upgraded the parts to Shimano 105 12 speed mechanical with scribe carbon wheels with gp5000 tyres. Also redshift stem and seat post and some aero handlebars. It's now a different beast all together. Personally I've really enjoyed building it up myself rather than just buying a better specked bike as I've done it all myself and have had a great refresher course of bike building and maintenance. However I will add the al 2 stock was pretty damned good to be honest as it was........

    @gmivisualsjason3729@gmivisualsjason3729Ай бұрын
  • I'm currently building up a Trek Domane SLR (ex demo frame from a LBS), SRAM Force AXS (unused when the owner replaced the groupset with SRAM Red AXS), and it's coming out at just over £2k. Chain, tyres (GP5000 with TPU tubes), rotors, and bar tape are all brand new.

    @AndrewShakespeare@AndrewShakespeareАй бұрын
  • In addition to price, I feel age of the bike is also very important. I recently saw a Kestrel 4000 for sale. No mention of age given but by the pic, 1st Gen DA shifter.brake levers. Advertised as DuraAce, carbon fiber aero bike. All true, but could be 30+ years old. Listed at $900 US. A new rider may focus on those key words only. A better question may be best price based on year. As always, great show.

    @wallacegrooms7791@wallacegrooms7791Ай бұрын
  • My current #1 bike, I bought the frameset used on eBay - 3 years old, perfect condition and ~1/3 retail ($1100 vs $3500 retail) - once upon a time, the depreciation on bikes was insane - don’t know if that’s still the case, but I would never buy new when I could get a good used for a fraction of the price

    @litespud@litespudАй бұрын
  • I bought a sensa aquila in 2019. All carbon, Full ultegra 8000 rim brakes. brand new.cost £1300. Even today, it's an awesome bike. I doubt that anything can beat it today!!! Today, £1600 but 105.

    @madmick9205@madmick9205Ай бұрын
  • Hi Alex. Love helmet, definitely agree with you, the green at the back does make it more appealing

    @neshad609@neshad609Ай бұрын
  • For short people looking to buy used, there's a group on a certain social media platform that is a gathering of shorties selling bikes for short people. When you ride a 49 ish cm bike, finding used in budget can be quite difficult. I ended up buying my main bike new. I looked for about 6 more months and finally found a budget friendly used back up bike in my size. So, to all my fellow shorties -- don't give up hope on finding a good used bike in your size! They're out there, but they do require more work to find.

    @megg2004@megg200429 күн бұрын
  • Ribble currently have the R872 full carbon fibre bike on sale from £1599, with 10 speed Tiagra groupset down to £999, looks a great bike for the money (Teal only, Anthracite grey is still full price).

    @brookes79@brookes79Ай бұрын
  • For folk living in the UK, Halfords are currently offering the Boardman SLR 8.9 for £900, reduced from £1,200.

    @sheetalshah2327@sheetalshah232725 күн бұрын
  • i dont think theres anything wrong with mechanical discs or rim brakes for people on a budget that arent racing etc, when i started cycling i ran mechanical disc brakes on my first bike after a while riding and working on my own bike i learned how to adjust and set the brakes up to perform more efficiently (single side tektro) granted the Trp spyre twin sided would be better, i think mechanical disc/rim brakes are so easy to work on and maintain they are underrated in the beginner category 👍🏼

    @rich_valets9937@rich_valets993727 күн бұрын
  • I bought a giant defy advanced 2 for $600. Used of course. 105 mechanical with alloy ultra light rims. I love it and I think it was a heck of a deal.

    @mattadams9484@mattadams94845 күн бұрын
  • Tiagra Hydraulic? I feel like GCN glosses over this excellent groupset. It’s always 105 or “low tier” groups. Tiagra is basically 105, 10 speed. GRX400 is also amazing.

    @marco_espejo@marco_espejo29 күн бұрын
  • I got a 2021 Specialized Tarmac SL6 zero miles of marketplace for $1300. Tiagra hydraulic groupset.

    @matthewheyn89@matthewheyn89Ай бұрын
  • The GTC lusso is a family hatchback for some… Bought a 2013 Defy 1 with 105 parts for less than 500. Feels almost new as now many miles has been out on it. It costed over 1k new. Run brake will live on even if they die off completely on new bikes. Shimano still ships consumable parts for Ultegra 6700.

    @childnuk@childnuk10 күн бұрын
  • I got a full carbon, 105, rim brakes £900 bike on cycle to work scheme. Slr 8.9 Boardman at halfords.

    @kye3k1@kye3k1Ай бұрын
  • For reference 1000 British pounds is $1710 CDN. Big difference from trying to buy a bike for $1000 CDN.

    @brianrainey2739@brianrainey2739Ай бұрын
  • A year ago I bought an ex-Welsh team bike. It was a 2021 Dolan Rebus, ultegra 8000 Durace shifters. Rotor 53 39 crankset with inspider powermeter, Alpina 35 ml deep section wheels and a selle italia san marco short fit saddle. It cost me £387.50 on an auction site. I have ridden it every week since it's awesome. I'll upload a pic to the bike vault if I can work out how 😂

    @006brand@006brandАй бұрын
  • Pinarello didn't used to be quite that exclusive. I still have my Pinarello FP2 2011, 105 10spd, full carbon frame that cost me £1500 in 2012. Still going strong. They've become more exclusive over time...

    @davidhartin8215@davidhartin8215Ай бұрын
  • VAT of 20% does not mean £200 of a £1000 gross price is tax, so a £1000 bike is not £800 net. Otherwise that would be 25% VAT. The true net price is £833.33 On a £1200 (gross) bike, the tax would indeed be £200. It's still a hefty chunk of change though, and when you factor in things like Business Rates, Employer's NI and the like, not to mention PAYE and tax on any profits, the actual taxation is more like 35%

    @TheAdwills@TheAdwillsАй бұрын
  • Ollie's Pinarello's a thing of beauty but as you said Alexei it's leant against a wall ! Buy him a shadow stand.

    @johnstrac@johnstracАй бұрын
  • The Peugeot is on a ramp hence the confusing brick work and the stick at the back :D Thanks for the Super nice 🔔🔔

    @nuno_das_fotos@nuno_das_fotosАй бұрын
  • I got a 2012 specialized tarmac elite ultegra group set (rim brake) for £300. Rides like a dream

    @CharlotteClaydon-ux6gm@CharlotteClaydon-ux6gmАй бұрын
  • Went used, got a Canondale super six evo with 11speed ultegra and a power meter. $1500 nzd. Needed chain, cassette and a tire.

    @brendonsmith5029@brendonsmith5029Ай бұрын
  • Fantastic opening topic for someone like me who is still relatively new to the world of cycling, and has to keep to a fairly low end budget. Expertly delivered by the 105 of presenters too 😁 Dont worry Ollie, your bike got a super nice from me.

    @alexhadfield657@alexhadfield657Ай бұрын
  • Getting a mechanical disc bike allows for upgrading to hydraulic in the future. I would take hydraulic Tiagra over mechanical 105 easily. I would also take a mechanical disc Claris over rim brakes. Alloy frame, carbon fork, sealed cartridge bearings in the hubs and headset and rack/fender mounting points.

    @All4Grogg@All4Grogg28 күн бұрын
  • I bought an Allez Sport, with 9 speed Sora & rim brakes brand new for £699 in July last year.........I already had a carbon stem. & seatpost to put on it - and Cero AR30 wheelset. Currently have 32mm GravelKings on it.......

    @WerdnaLiten@WerdnaLitenАй бұрын
  • Friend of mine just brought a cannondale synapse carbon frame ,hydraulic disc 105 group , 850pound , bike is like brand new , guy said he had done 400 miles on it 🤯 second hand all the way , so many good deals

    @charliecook6909@charliecook6909Ай бұрын
  • As a New Yorker, the ebike/moped free-for-all has been complete mayhem, adding a great deal of extra high-speed chaos to our already-chaotic streets. Having guys constantly zipping around you at 28mph on a throttle ebike has really changed the mood and tempo of riding in bike lanes, and made them much less inviting for newer bikers to try bike commuting. These more powerful bikes have made higher-speed travel instantly easy for less-skilled riders and it's causing more collisions, and more damaging ones as the bikes involved are bigger and heavier. In theory I love anything that gets more people riding, and a lot of the riders are deliveristas who depend on that motor-assist to do their jobs. But these bikes feel too powerful to play well with others on our streets, and if regulating them means I can't get food delivered from Harlem to Brooklyn (a ridiculous distance) I am OK with that!

    @vermilionink@vermilioninkАй бұрын
    • This salty comment brought to you after a terrifying near-miss yesterday on the Manhattan Bridge, where I was overtaking a slower rider and as I moved to return to my lane I nearly crashed into a guy on a high-speed ebike who thought it was a good idea to try zipping around me ON THE INSIDE at 18mph uphill, and came within a couple of inches of taking us both down on a narrow bridge path. Obviously not every ebike rider is this kind of idiot, but there are unfortunately a lot of them around, and these bikes give them a lot of effortless power to do whatever they want.

      @vermilionink@vermilioninkАй бұрын
  • I always recommend reaching out to cycling friends or Facebook groups because I've found lots of amazing people who acknowledge how expensive cycling is and pay it forward by giving away superb bikes to new riders/racers for way less than they would command on the open market.

    @kiwiphrase@kiwiphrase29 күн бұрын
  • we here in irish land have a cycle to work incentive which is €1000 euro of which you only pay back half thru tax in your wages over a year, so feels like its free!! Also you can get €1500 toward an electric bike,some use it to get new good wheels on their bike etc, you are entitled to this every 3 years!! So a €1000 bike is pretty popular here! Take care, Slante!!

    @stephengahan5624@stephengahan562428 күн бұрын
  • Twitter R12 Pro (aero carbon frame, inner-cables, hydraulic disk brakes, 13s cassete, with wireless derailleurs) is just around 1000€

    @MikhailBorodin_ru@MikhailBorodin_ru13 күн бұрын
  • Last year I managed to buy a second hand 2017 Sensa Giulia for a 1000 euro. It is full carbon, has Ultegra Di2, carbon wheels and a powermeter included. Incredible deal imho, only trade off is rim brakes. After the corona bike buying madness, this is the perfect time to buy second hand bikes.

    @HBDutch@HBDutchАй бұрын
  • Props on the work @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="592">09:52</a>

    @whatwelearned@whatwelearnedАй бұрын
  • The pity ring. ROFL LOL 🤣

    @TimR123@TimR123Ай бұрын
  • Thank you SO MUCH for the wahoo update reminder. I'm a fair weather cyclists (I run the rest of the time, not just lazy) but I have a ride planned in and was about to be hit by a HUGE update delaying my ride.

    @will44bott@will44bottАй бұрын
  • Wow suddenly they suggest rim brakes when sponsored by a rim brake wheel maker! Rim brakes have always been great.

    @jeremynorth@jeremynorthАй бұрын
  • The new Helixes with gold decals look exquisite! Definitely on my radar for distant future upgrade.

    @romanluu@romanluuАй бұрын
  • Wow. I’m impressed that the CEO of Precision Fuel & Hydration was so helpful, and not just plugging his products.

    @michaelgoldfarb7006@michaelgoldfarb700629 күн бұрын
  • Considering how much GCN talk about tyre clearance, cable actuated discs are perfectly fine for most riders

    @rob-c.@rob-c.Ай бұрын
  • Hey @gcntech would you please do a review of the DMT KM0 shoes you are wearing for gravel? Sweet looking - wondering about comfort and performance.

    @willardvanderploeg3542@willardvanderploeg3542Ай бұрын
  • I agree with the first bike you mentioned, the Specialized Allez, Shimano 105 or better. If you can't find a new one in your budget, go used

    @lawrencenahlik9805@lawrencenahlik980529 күн бұрын
  • Maths Ollie ! The VAT free price of a £1000 bike is (approx) £833 not £800. (I love a bit of pedantry).

    @johnstrac@johnstracАй бұрын
  • Wish this was available before I've bought the orbea avant 2022.. a massive tank, heavy, bulky, and slow.. spokes constantly need tighten as they get loose after every ride.. Never spend money on orbea.. specialized allez is a killer, light and comfy, fast and affordable. If you can go with rim break, you win in all other fields.

    @fabianrares@fabianrares29 күн бұрын
  • Hello GCN dudes I think I got a good used deal, I bought a bike from a used bike dealer locally, its a Cube Attain, Ali frame,Hyd Disc, all tiagra 4700 groupset, fulcrum 77 wheels,looks like new, although I think its a 2013 model ? I paid £500, it certainly does for a 63 yo newish road rider, one thing I have noticed is that the non power side crank arm is an Ultegra and not Tiagra like the crank side? Any idea why. Regards John

    @johnnybobuk@johnnybobukАй бұрын
  • Used carbon bikes 7-10 years ago with 7900 6700 or 5800. Is the best bang for your buck under 1k usd. Use the remeaining money on a premium low resistance tires and get latex or tpu inner tubes.

    @user-ix5ht6ux8u@user-ix5ht6ux8u2 күн бұрын
  • Decathlon triban RC520… alloy frame, carbon fork, 105s…. DISK brakes

    @paulhugo1623@paulhugo1623Ай бұрын
  • I’d go new, as the discount on new bikes is bringing them into second hand price range (for bikes a couple of years old) and go with hydraulic brakes for two reasons; I’m a heavier rider and need the stopping power and I love the comfort of wider wheels on longer rides

    @jayhoughton4174@jayhoughton4174Ай бұрын
  • I’d be too worried about stolen bikes on the used market.

    @DarranS@DarranSАй бұрын
    • If it’s stolen they will give it away for next to nothing

      @Lamby1010@Lamby1010Ай бұрын
    • Most high end bikes also get parts stripped and sold separately- a high end frame will likely be registered with insurers and authorities, so it would be far to easy for them to identify and for the culprits to be caught. The components, unless custom, will be much easier to sell immediately so those frames will either be stored for years (beyond the legal statute of limitations) before recirculating, sent abroad for sale where there is less traceability, or disposed of and destroyed for convenience.

      @matt_acton-varian@matt_acton-varianАй бұрын
    • @@Lamby1010the seller often won’t match the bike, either. If a sketty looking chav is selling a pinarello that’s obviously not their size you know full well it’s stolen.

      @PhilOsGarage@PhilOsGarageАй бұрын
    • Then you worry too much you soft sod.

      @SteveNinetyski@SteveNinetyski28 күн бұрын
  • Did you consider in your study the bike frime previous year discounted that good except they don’t have the last paint job in general not a big issue?

    @samuelcaillault294@samuelcaillault294Ай бұрын
  • Ferrari makes a very sensible-looking family hatchback, the GTC4Lusso <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="178">2:58</a>

    @mussoaj@mussoajАй бұрын
  • I got the bottom end Canyon Endurace CF for $2k. While I love the bike and am having a great time riding it, if I were to do it again, I would buy the aluminum version. Save the money and/or potentially upgrade the wheels and tires with the savings. The fork flex in the low end CF is annoying. The cheaper, stiffer AL would be better, even with the weight penalty over CF.

    @brawnsley@brawnsleyАй бұрын
  • Poor Ollie! 🤣 You just knew that he was going to be given grief for his new bike, it does without saying

    @StuFromOz99@StuFromOz9929 күн бұрын
  • that is SO egg nog on the back of that helmet--in fact, 'Egg Nog' would be the perfect name for that helmet as it protects your noggin and it's 'natural white'

    @void_presence@void_presence23 күн бұрын
  • If disc brakes and wide fork that can fit gravel tires, then the Giant Contend AR4 has excellent geometry and shimano Claris - for newbies I'd consider this as a better option than anything with caliper brakes and narrow forks

    @craigr2167@craigr216729 күн бұрын
  • I was looking for something for my kid, and I found a whole bunch of things that looked like that that under CA law either qualified for E-Bikes or "Mopeds".

    @michaellynch1132@michaellynch113220 күн бұрын
  • Bonus points if your rim brake bike has mounts for disc calipers

    @marklapointe48@marklapointe4822 күн бұрын
  • Everybody should at least "look" at a PREVIOUSLY RACED PRO BIKE. They are out there, maybe not $1000, but still not breaking the bank. Just picked up a mint 2023 TREK BOONE 6, di2 Ultegra, carbon everything with Paradigm training wheels and new rubber - $2500.

    @isitrachelorj3953@isitrachelorj395328 күн бұрын
  • Ollie complaining about e-bikes sounds like car drivers complaining about road cyclists. :D

    @andlum83@andlum83Ай бұрын
  • "That is the worst thing I have ever seen, we should buy one!"

    @SteevyTable@SteevyTableАй бұрын
  • #askgcntech What is the weight differential between Schimano 105 mechanical and Claris? On an entry-level bike, are you truly focused on weight? Thanks.

    @wspmjw@wspmjwАй бұрын
    • Just the groupsets themselves probably not too much, but models that would have claris tend to have heavier/cheaper items all over, so bars, seat stay, saddle, frame. So total weight could easily be 1,5kg heavier than a 105 specd bike

      @keflarjeoffrey@keflarjeoffreyАй бұрын
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